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**bagera4000** · 05-15-2008, 05:43 PM

for guy that just got his masters in aerospace i do lot of ships

liam887 · 05-15-2008, 06:01 PM

speechless! the first carrier is amazing do you mind if i try to model it in 3d?

**bagera4000** · 05-15-2008, 06:03 PM

go for it

**Lord Ravensburg** · 05-15-2008, 06:11 PM

How long did those take Mike? They look awesome.

**bagera4000** · 05-15-2008, 06:21 PM

a week im going to do more clean up on USS United States CVX-80 tonight

Monkey Boy · 05-15-2008, 07:33 PM

They look fantastic!

Couple of comments:

I couldn'r see the carrier operating harrier jump jets, when joint strike fighters (the vertival take-off version) would be available instead.

I think the sea wolf sub has too many control surfaces - it looks cool, but I think that in reality you would get turbulence off all those projections, whick would create noise.
Is there any reason why a future submarine actuall has to hace a conning tower at all? It would probably only ome to the surface to dock at harbour anyway, and might have a little unmaned aerial vehicle for seeing some distance if it did surface, so why a tall structure?

Also a couple of the ships have heaps of vertical launch tubes, which is fine, but don't seem to have any CIWS, guns to shoot down missiles - I cant see a navy relying solely on anti-missile missiles, they surely would have some uns for the missiles that get through?

otherwise, I love them,

Especially the first carrier, although it would be a massive asset to lose if it was sunk!!!

Great job!

Cheers

Aresius · 05-15-2008, 10:04 PM

nice work here. The first one is damn great, but have you heard of the new invention they want to use on the next-gen of carriers?
They want to bend the front up so it's like a ramp of some sort. I think that would come in handy with that America super Carrier beast.

iOSYS · 05-15-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Boy

Also a couple of the ships have heaps of vertical launch tubes, which is fine, but don't seem to have any CIWS, guns to shoot down missiles - I cant see a navy relying solely on anti-missile missiles, they surely would have some uns for the missiles that get through?

I read somewhere that cwis has actually never intercepted a missile in a real combat situation. Granted, there have not been toooo many missile fights to test them in, but even in testing they're not exactly a reliable defense.

And besides, the new generation Zumwalt class won't be armed with phalanx. speaking of the Zumwalt... That brings me to the one negative comment I have. I hate tumblehome hulls... they're ugly... and I don't like the idea of, in a big enough wave, having the bow pitch slightly underwater and just not come back up. :P Mainly thats an opinion thing though. And sadly according to the Zumwalt it seems like tumblehome is back in style. They're like the navy version of bellbottoms.

Anywaaaaaaay, I really like all of them though. Very detailed, and they seem to fit well with the new linage the navy is taking.

**bagera4000** · 05-15-2008, 10:42 PM

the research done for newer hull design is more sealed like sub an complicated batter than older designs besides it more stealthy in many ways sloped decks cant be stealthy

peragrin · 05-15-2008, 11:50 PM

The slope ramp are jump ramp's for STOL aircraft like Harrier jump jets, and the new f-35 . you can save a ton of fuel with a short roll and a hope instead of just pure vertical thrusters, especially when fully loaded with weapons, and fuel. google the Invincible class that the UK uses for it's carriers.

I really want to see someone build that super carrier for real. Just because.

05-15-2008, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
bagera4000 master of the Universe Realname: mike brown Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 774	go for it
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Lord Ravensburg Wondering Aloud Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Realname: Lee Join Date: May 2006 Location: Find the A$$ end of nowhere and i'm just north of it... Age: 28 Posts: 3,278	How long did those take Mike? They look awesome.
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05-15-2008, 06:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
bagera4000 master of the Universe Realname: mike brown Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 774	a week im going to do more clean up on USS United States CVX-80 tonight
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05-15-2008, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Monkey Boy SFM Guru Realname: Andrew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newcastle, Australia Age: 34 Posts: 574	They look fantastic! Couple of comments: I couldn'r see the carrier operating harrier jump jets, when joint strike fighters (the vertival take-off version) would be available instead. I think the sea wolf sub has too many control surfaces - it looks cool, but I think that in reality you would get turbulence off all those projections, whick would create noise. Is there any reason why a future submarine actuall has to hace a conning tower at all? It would probably only ome to the surface to dock at harbour anyway, and might have a little unmaned aerial vehicle for seeing some distance if it did surface, so why a tall structure? Also a couple of the ships have heaps of vertical launch tubes, which is fine, but don't seem to have any CIWS, guns to shoot down missiles - I cant see a navy relying solely on anti-missile missiles, they surely would have some uns for the missiles that get through? otherwise, I love them, Especially the first carrier, although it would be a massive asset to lose if it was sunk!!! Great job! Cheers
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05-15-2008, 10:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Aresius SFM Oracle Realname: Alexander Weber Join Date: May 2006 Location: Schatthausen, Germany Age: 22 Posts: 5,355	nice work here. The first one is damn great, but have you heard of the new invention they want to use on the next-gen of carriers? They want to bend the front up so it's like a ramp of some sort. I think that would come in handy with that America super Carrier beast.
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05-15-2008, 06:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
liam887 SFM Guru Realname: Liam Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Liverpool Age: 20 Posts: 324	speechless! the first carrier is amazing do you mind if i try to model it in 3d?

05-15-2008, 10:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
bagera4000 master of the Universe Realname: mike brown Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 774	the research done for newer hull design is more sealed like sub an complicated batter than older designs besides it more stealthy in many ways sloped decks cant be stealthy
	*Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk.*

05-15-2008, 11:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
peragrin SFM Nugget Realname: David Turnbull Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 44	The slope ramp are jump ramp's for STOL aircraft like Harrier jump jets, and the new f-35 . you can save a ton of fuel with a short roll and a hope instead of just pure vertical thrusters, especially when fully loaded with weapons, and fuel. google the Invincible class that the UK uses for it's carriers. I really want to see someone build that super carrier for real. Just because.

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