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Old 05-18-2006, 07:33 PM   #41 (permalink)
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It's about 1,771 meters long.

This is really cool, my only complaint is in how the landing deck nacelles are connected (at angles instead of horizontal), the two aft shuttle bays, and what looks like landing gear on the belly. Other than that it's a great looking design and I love the combination of franchises. It also reminds me of a ship I made a few years back.

May I suggest getting rid of the blue grill on the rear of the warp nacelles, or making the impulse engine grills more white? When you make the fighters, why not go with Trek sized fighters instead of Galactica sizes, but with Galactica shapes? That would mean something like 34-60 m long fighters.
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:01 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Wow, okay, where to start... First off, I'm glad someone was paying more attention than me. For the life of me, I could not remember the length I'd come up with. Thanks Major D!

Now onto your suggestions... The warp nacelles are connected that way because I like the way the profile looks. I was a little worried about the way they are connected, as well, especially when it comes to structural integrity at warp speeds. But I figure that if Starfleet could build this thing, then they could probably take care of those issues.

The two aft shuttlebays I think you are referring to are actually doors into the cargo bay. Its meant to be one large cargo bay, perhaps segmented into different sections. I'll develop that more later. Right now, I'm still finishing the last little design details.

I'm guessing by landing gear you mean the hatches on the bottom of the ship. The two round ones aft of the docking bay doors are the warp core ejection hatches (two warp cores, one for each Nacelle, which are like two Nacelles in one.) The rectangular ones are hatches for the weapon turrets. The spec sheets are in a previous post, and have a few made-up details about the ship.

As for the impulse engines, I wanted something reminiscent of the thrusters on the back of the "real" Galactica, but still fit in with the trek tech. Low and behold, I was inspired by the impulse engines on the NX-01. They look blue like the Galactica's thrusters, but are impulse engines from Trek.

As far as the fighters go, that idea hadn't really crossed my mind. You just opened up some more options to me. I'll think about it while I'm working on the vipers. Thanks!

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Old 05-19-2006, 01:37 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Although, Jonny Boy, you don't have to do the old basestar, you could do the new one that is like less bulkier but scarier. Its still up to you. Oh and the civilian ships in BSG as Federation ships!?
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Old 05-19-2006, 07:48 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Well, I actually have a very crude mock up of a borg basestar (based on the new version, not the 70's version). All it is is a lo-res picture of a basestar with some borg technology overlayed over it. Might be cool, but I'm going to have a stroke if I keep adding things to my list of shtuff to do. Summer break is coming up, guys. Expect some more good stuff then. For now, here's a small update on the MSD. Turbolift system added, next come compartment cutouts and other ships systems. I also have a pencil layout for the Bridge/CIC I doodled in Oceanography class one day. Maybe I'll post that soon.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:55 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Wow, okay, where to start...First off, I'm glad someone was paying more attention than me. For the life of me, I could not remember the length I'd come up with. Thanks Major D!
No problem, I just happen to be nuts.

On you MSD, by the way, it looks good, the distance between the verticle turbo lift tubes from the bridge toward that central cargo bay, it's about half the length of Voyager. I think you need more turbolift shafts

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Now onto your suggestions... The warp nacelles are connected that way because I like the way the profile looks. I was a little worried about the way they are connected, as well, especially when it comes to structural integrity at warp speeds. But I figure that if Starfleet could build this thing, then they could probably take care of those issues.
I don't doubt they could build it, especially considering how thin the pylons for warp nacelles generally are. It speaks of huge structural strength, whether it's because of structural integrity fields or not. But I was referring to the landing bay nacelles, not the warp nacelles, I like the warp nacelles placement because it looks so sturdy and fits well with the nBSG. Even though I like how the angled pylons look, I think there should be some substantial horizontal connections to simplify movement of material and people to and from the landing bay nacelles. That way, wouldn't need cargo bay doors in the after of the ship either, you could just have cargo brought into the landing bays and carried through the ship. Then again, dedicated magazine loading bays would probably be best and why would you want those right near the main engines.

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I'm guessing by landing gear you mean the hatches on the bottom of the ship. The two round ones aft of the docking bay doors are the warp core ejection hatches (two warp cores, one for each Nacelle, which are like two Nacelles in one.) The rectangular ones are hatches for the weapon turrets. The spec sheets are in a previous post, and have a few made-up details about the ship.
I didn't even realise the ship would have two warp cores, it's something I never really liked, if making a ST ship in a strict way, I always felt it would create a warp field that can't be controlled properly because the warp core it self actually produces certain fields, maybe even the warp field it self. But it's your design and I've always thought that multiple warp cores are, at least, amusing. The more the merrier.

I don't see why the weapons turrets shouldn't just always be exposed.

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As for the impulse engines, I wanted something reminiscent of the thrusters on the back of the "real" Galactica, but still fit in with the trek tech. Low and behold, I was inspired by the impulse engines on the NX-01. They look blue like the Galactica's thrusters, but are impulse engines from Trek.
Well, there was one of the pre-NX ships in Enterprise that had its impulse engines at the rear of the warp engine nacelles. The original BSG and, I think, the Prometheus had white sublight engines. Of course, blue goes with the nBSG and, as you pointed out, the NX. I just remembered that I put impulse engines on the back of the nacelles in a design I made a few years ago.

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As far as the fighters go, that idea hadn't really crossed my mind. You just opened up some more options to me. I'll think about it while I'm working on the vipers. Thanks!
You're Galactica is about two times larger than the originals, so you might as well make the fighters larger too. The Vipers are about 9 meters long, and the Federation Fighter and Scout are about 14 and 24 meters long, respectively. I would go with the latter.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:39 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Sorry I didn't realize you were talking about the flight pod pylons. It's funny that you brought that up, though, cause that's actually going to be one of the next things I'm going to work on. Those pylons were only temporary. The basic layout will stay the same, but I'm going to go with a more angular approach, based on the new Galactica's pylons. I think I mentioned it in the old thread, and I keep forgetting the things I should repeat in this new thread. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

As for the turbolifts, I was constantly worrying about the issue of "walking distance" when I started putting the turbolift shafts in place. I'll probably add some more, but I was also thinking that with a ship this size, maybe Starfleet would install a short-range local transporter system for easy access to different areas of the ship.

To be honest, the cargo bays at the back of the ship were mainly for looks. I wanted more back there, and I liked the way the doors came out, so I decided to stick with it. Going with the idea of this ship being a traveling spaceport/battleship, it seemed like a good idea. Aside form the shuttle bay, there would be no traffic to worry about.

The reason for the turret hatches is that it crossed my mind that Gene Roddenberry might have a heart attack if he ever saw this thing with all of the guns on it, so I decided to placate my conscience and hide the damn things. By the way, those will be added to the MSD.

Here's another update on the Raptor. The wing is finished, and I added a drop shadow to the nacelle, being cast by the tail fin. I'm still not 100% sure about the tail, but its growing on me. What do you guys think?

EDIT: About the two warp cores, I completely understand how that might seem excessive. To my knowledge, I have never heard of a Starship having more than one. But I have never been much of a fan of three or four-nacelle configurations (although the Prometheus is one of my favorite ships, and I've seen some pretty awesome four-nacelle designs here). That's why I decided to stick with two nacelles and say each was like two-in-one. Since I decided on that, I figured I'd put in two warp cores. U.S. Navy aircraft carriers have more than one nuclear reactor, so I figure, what the hell.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:45 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:38 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Okay, f#*k it, here's a quick look at "the bucket" with four nacelles. I know I've been resisting this, but Major D's been pushing me on this, so I gave in. Anyway, I have to admit this isn't bad. I might even consider going with this, if I could do a slightly different warp nacelle that makes me happy. But there-in lies the problem, and the reason I still resist. I love the nacelle that I have now, but I couldn't keep it if I decided to go with four, because of the design itself. Its too large to accomodate four engines. (The ones in the picture have been reduced in size.) And on top of that, it has the two-in-one design going for it.(8 warp nacelles total! ) That would have to be changed too. And not only that, it would have to be changed in all of the different views. I'm not sure I want to have to go back and do that much work right now. I'd have to do some serious thinking about it. Let me know what you guys think. I'll sleep on it and decide later.
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looks interesting, maybe turn the vetnral nacells "upside down" as a mirror image of the dorsal nacells..good job though..

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Old 05-20-2006, 01:36 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Make one set smaller, otherwise it just looks a bit overdone. It looks cool though

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