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Northern_Mind · 03-23-2008, 10:44 PM

I've been wondering about this thing over the weekend on which way should be better in doing my stargate spaceship. Is it wise to model every singe armor panel or is it better to texture them because i've had it with modeling the armor panels (going crazy as it were...)

As for instance the bc-304 class from the stargate shows, is it more texture than modeling or the other way around.

Or another question would be better what is the ratio between modeling and texturing in the filming industry for instance.

Of course it might look better if it was all modeled but if it were all modeled what time would one have in making everything else before one would go completely insane and raving about polygons while you were making dinner...

Dallidas · 03-23-2008, 11:02 PM

It depends on the use of the model, and your hardware. Also if your better at modeling or textures. Game models are almost all textures, Movie Models seem to be more modeling(they have giganto render farms) but also very good textures obviously. The main thing to remember, it will look better 99% of the time if its modeled rather than textured.

**mJAstro** · 03-23-2008, 11:20 PM

What he said ^^

**Tovette** · 03-24-2008, 12:16 AM

The manner in which the model is lit matters too as a decent lighting set up can really correct a bad texture job and low poly counts.

chrono · 03-24-2008, 02:57 AM

It's completely dependent upon what you want to use the model for. But generally you can go by 2 standards types.

Static or Animation and Foreground or Background.

Mr. Wilde · 03-24-2008, 12:38 PM

You could do a hero model with modelled detail for close ups, and use it as the base for rendering textures for a low poly version of it.

Silverblade-T-E · 03-24-2008, 07:48 PM

Dumb point from a noobling:
what about using displacement? Easier to make a 16 bit greyscale of the panelling/armour, than modelling it?

**Viper** · 03-24-2008, 09:07 PM

Controversial topic IMO. Both ways can be used, depends on what you want to do with the model.

Ndege · 03-24-2008, 09:52 PM

My rule of thumb is that details that affect the profile of the model gets geometry and details that only affect the appearance of the surface get maps. I break that rule all the time. Or I end up doing both.

This sort of thing is very situational and down to personal preference. Unless you are doing it for a professional project, then it's down to schedules and budgets.

**JeffrySG** · 03-26-2008, 02:13 AM

Also, if you're really great at texturing you might be able to get away with less mesh detail. If you're really great at modeling the opposite might apply. You can get great looking renders either way, if you're good.

03-23-2008, 10:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
Northern_Mind SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iceland Age: 27 Posts: 293 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Modeling vs textures. I've been wondering about this thing over the weekend on which way should be better in doing my stargate spaceship. Is it wise to model every singe armor panel or is it better to texture them because i've had it with modeling the armor panels (going crazy as it were...) As for instance the bc-304 class from the stargate shows, is it more texture than modeling or the other way around. Or another question would be better what is the ratio between modeling and texturing in the filming industry for instance. Of course it might look better if it was all modeled but if it were all modeled what time would one have in making everything else before one would go completely insane and raving about polygons while you were making dinner...

03-23-2008, 11:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dallidas SFM Oracle Realname: Kyle Join Date: May 2006 Location: US Age: 17 Posts: 3,499 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It depends on the use of the model, and your hardware. Also if your better at modeling or textures. Game models are almost all textures, Movie Models seem to be more modeling(they have giganto render farms) but also very good textures obviously. The main thing to remember, it will look better 99% of the time if its modeled rather than textured.
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Tovette Yeah, up another 10 cents Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Realname: Nate Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Age: 31 Posts: 5,346 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The manner in which the model is lit matters too as a decent lighting set up can really correct a bad texture job and low poly counts.
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03-24-2008, 02:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
chrono SFM Obsessed Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's completely dependent upon what you want to use the model for. But generally you can go by 2 standards types. Static or Animation and Foreground or Background.
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03-24-2008, 12:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Wilde SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 534 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You could do a hero model with modelled detail for close ups, and use it as the base for rendering textures for a low poly version of it.
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03-23-2008, 11:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
mJAstro Planet Fanatic Realname: Mike Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Age: 22 Posts: 468 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	What he said ^^

03-24-2008, 07:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Silverblade-T-E SFM Guru Realname: Steve Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scotland, Cthulusville Age: 40 Posts: 282 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dumb point from a noobling: what about using displacement? Easier to make a 16 bit greyscale of the panelling/armour, than modelling it?
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03-24-2008, 09:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Viper Administrator Realname: Diogo Vincenzi Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brazil Age: 22 Posts: 1,391 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Controversial topic IMO. Both ways can be used, depends on what you want to do with the model.
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03-24-2008, 09:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ndege SFM Nugget Realname: Ndege Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 98 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My rule of thumb is that details that affect the profile of the model gets geometry and details that only affect the appearance of the surface get maps. I break that rule all the time. Or I end up doing both. This sort of thing is very situational and down to personal preference. Unless you are doing it for a professional project, then it's down to schedules and budgets.

03-26-2008, 02:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
JeffrySG SFM Obsessed Realname: Jeff Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 2,354 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Also, if you're really great at texturing you might be able to get away with less mesh detail. If you're really great at modeling the opposite might apply. You can get great looking renders either way, if you're good.
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