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Starscream · 12-19-2006, 04:10 PM

I kinda like the middle one, certainly an improvement either way!

**Jayru** · 12-19-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

I kinda like the middle one, certainly an improvement either way!

I may have another way of doing it... I'll try and post an update later on...

**Jayru** · 12-19-2006, 08:46 PM

Ok so nacelle ideas sucked, and given the lack of replies I'm guessing they were really uninteresting... no probs, LOL.

Anyhow, decided to go back to the drawing board on the Nacelles, and rebuilt them. Kept the overall shape roughly the same but have tried to make it different to what i did before...

Anyhow, have hit a major snag with the mesh, so there may be no updates for a while. The files size suddenly jumped by 500% for some reason, and is casuing problems. I need to investigate what I've done...

evil_genius_180 · 12-20-2006, 05:23 AM

I like it.

**Jayru** · 12-20-2006, 11:39 AM

Ironically it's closer to the plans than the first one I did.

found the problem in the mesh. Seems the new grills on the nacelles were too uber-poly

. Have sorted that out. The file is once again workable...

Decided to take a break from working on the model, and try and create some texture maps... Here's a test shot of the saucer...

PS: Yes, I have been back and edited all the former posts with pics ;-)

Starscream · 12-20-2006, 04:57 PM

Very nice! It really does look far more related to the refit TMP ships than the Excelsior did...

admiral horton · 12-20-2006, 05:03 PM

question: Is this a TNG or post-TNG refit or a pre-TNG refit.However so far its looking good hope to see more.

**Jayru** · 12-20-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Very nice! It really does look far more related to the refit TMP ships than the Excelsior did...

That's my intention, to make the ship look like it came out of the same ship yards that built the Consititution and Miranda classes. The colour scheme and hull panneling are going to very much reflect that look and style (if I can create decent enough texture maps

).

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Originally Posted by admiral horton

question: Is this a TNG or post-TNG refit or a pre-TNG refit.However so far its looking good hope to see more.

This is a late era TMP, post ST5/6 refit. My thoughts are that several Ingram class were built - although not as many as the Excelsior class. Sometime between ST5 and ST6 the Excelsior went through a minor refit - new impulse deck, changes to the main shuttle bay, new bridge modual (screen evidence for these changes can be found at: Ex Astris Scientia in an article about the size/scale of the Excelsior). I think it's possible (logical?) that some of Ingram may have receaved updates/upgrades/refits by this time - given that they would have been around a decade+ old, (the same age as the Excelsior). Of course, that's just my thinking. Alternativly, this could just be a variant of the design

**Jayru** · 12-20-2006, 09:38 PM

Here the latest orthos. Updates are minor, but include a re-shape impulse deck, and engins, making it a: less wide, and b: the engins deeper. A new "b deck" which is more in keeping with the plans, the sorted out main shuttle bay, the sorted out saucer rim (a horrible black line is now gone) - and of course the rebuilt nacelles.

Tomorrow? Work begins on a new look bridge module. With the new "b deck" I've realised that the running lights on the bridge wont be able to light the top of the saucer up - so I'm gonna have a go at making a bridge/deck 1 like the Excelsior had in ST6 - well, somthing like it anyway... either that or move the running lights. Which ever looks better

**harrisw** · 12-20-2006, 11:57 PM

I actually preferred the 3rd nacelle design

12-19-2006, 04:10 PM	#21 (permalink)
Starscream SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Deck 15, Section 21-Alpha Posts: 194	I kinda like the middle one, certainly an improvement either way!
	Suicide bombers... what makes them tick?

12-19-2006, 08:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jayru SFM Guru Realname: Jay Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a house, in the dales of Derbyshire, in the UK, with the man I love. Age: 37 Posts: 350	Another Update Ok so nacelle ideas sucked, and given the lack of replies I'm guessing they were really uninteresting... no probs, LOL. Anyhow, decided to go back to the drawing board on the Nacelles, and rebuilt them. Kept the overall shape roughly the same but have tried to make it different to what i did before... Anyhow, have hit a major snag with the mesh, so there may be no updates for a while. The files size suddenly jumped by 500% for some reason, and is casuing problems. I need to investigate what I've done...
	Current WIP: Wolf Class Project, "Wolf Class FAQ" - Other WIPs: Ingram Class Refit Project "Our integrity sells for so little, but it is all we really have. It is the very last inch of us. But within that inch we are free." Last edited by Jayru; 10-04-2007 at 12:45 PM.

12-20-2006, 11:39 AM	#25 (permalink)
Jayru SFM Guru Realname: Jay Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a house, in the dales of Derbyshire, in the UK, with the man I love. Age: 37 Posts: 350	Ironically it's closer to the plans than the first one I did. found the problem in the mesh. Seems the new grills on the nacelles were too uber-poly . Have sorted that out. The file is once again workable... Decided to take a break from working on the model, and try and create some texture maps... Here's a test shot of the saucer... PS: Yes, I have been back and edited all the former posts with pics ;-)
	Current WIP: Wolf Class Project, "Wolf Class FAQ" - Other WIPs: Ingram Class Refit Project "Our integrity sells for so little, but it is all we really have. It is the very last inch of us. But within that inch we are free." Last edited by Jayru; 10-04-2007 at 12:45 PM. Reason: becasue it helps if you add pictures, when you say you have ;-)

12-20-2006, 04:57 PM	#26 (permalink)
Starscream SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Deck 15, Section 21-Alpha Posts: 194	Very nice! It really does look far more related to the refit TMP ships than the Excelsior did...
	Suicide bombers... what makes them tick?

12-20-2006, 09:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
Jayru SFM Guru Realname: Jay Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a house, in the dales of Derbyshire, in the UK, with the man I love. Age: 37 Posts: 350	another update, I guess I don't sleep... Here the latest orthos. Updates are minor, but include a re-shape impulse deck, and engins, making it a: less wide, and b: the engins deeper. A new "b deck" which is more in keeping with the plans, the sorted out main shuttle bay, the sorted out saucer rim (a horrible black line is now gone) - and of course the rebuilt nacelles. Tomorrow? Work begins on a new look bridge module. With the new "b deck" I've realised that the running lights on the bridge wont be able to light the top of the saucer up - so I'm gonna have a go at making a bridge/deck 1 like the Excelsior had in ST6 - well, somthing like it anyway... either that or move the running lights. Which ever looks better
	Current WIP: Wolf Class Project, "Wolf Class FAQ" - Other WIPs: Ingram Class Refit Project "Our integrity sells for so little, but it is all we really have. It is the very last inch of us. But within that inch we are free." Last edited by Jayru; 10-04-2007 at 12:46 PM.

12-20-2006, 05:23 AM	#24 (permalink)
evil_genius_180 SFM Oracle Join Date: May 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 3,512	I like it.

12-20-2006, 05:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
admiral horton SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: henderson,kentucky Age: 27 Posts: 303	question: Is this a TNG or post-TNG refit or a pre-TNG refit.However so far its looking good hope to see more.

12-20-2006, 11:57 PM	#30 (permalink)
harrisw SFM Nugget Realname: Bill Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 60	I actually preferred the 3rd nacelle design

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