high-detailed runabout (with interiors)

[Comco]

I'd go the 2nd image. But they are pretty similar.

Looking forward to seeing her spin!

I am also interested to hear what you'd like to see that MAX isn't capable of Tobian.

[psycho]

rendered videos of both versions last night... maybe i should also have saved them...

[psycho]

rendered them again, a bit shorter and deleted all unnecessary parts, still took me 1 hour per vid...
i guess i'll go with the second version...

[tobian]

Second one again, and maybe crank it up again!

Don't want to get into an App War Comco. What I should have said is that Scanline is a crappy renderer. If you have a computing degree you can get amazing results from Mental Ray, and Vray is an astonishing quality renderer, if not included with Max. Surfacing is also a bit bleh in Max, they seriously need to upgrade that to something nodal, I know there are mix-materials and work arounds, but one texture per channel Puleaze!!!

[psycho]

scanline is ok for stills, but it sucks if it comes to animations... i didn't test surfacing in lw yet, but maya is way ahead of max there, but you can still get the same results with max materials... it's just a bit more fiddly

[Chanur]

I, too, tend for #2

[Comco]

Originally Posted by tobian

Don't want to get into an App War Comco. What I should have said is that Scanline is a crappy renderer. If you have a computing degree you can get amazing results from Mental Ray, and Vray is an astonishing quality renderer, if not included with Max. Surfacing is also a bit bleh in Max, they seriously need to upgrade that to something nodal, I know there are mix-materials and work arounds, but one texture per channel Puleaze!!!

I might have come across as a little more...defensive than I actually was with that question mate. Believe me, I have no intention of starting an app war...

Scanline is certainly lacking in a number of areas. I love FinalRender. It gives some great results. As for a different way of surfacing...MAX is all I've ever used so it's hard for me to say whether it's better or worse than anything else.

Psycho - I agree with Tobian...Number 2, and crack the contrast on your spec maps up a bit.

[psycho]

better? or too much?

btw. here are my textures... feel free to make suggestion on how to improve them... i'm specially not sure about the dirt... it looks fake somehow...

[IRML]

I personally think the maps look fine, quite subtle in the renders, but you can see they look OK with what you just uploaded

the dirt streaks look a bit fake because they're too sparse, when that shuttle picks up dirt it's not going to have one streak of dirt every few square feet - it'll have faint streaks all over

btw what is the anisotropy map for, I don't think we have anything like that in LW, is it like the gloss setting?

[psycho]

k, so i'm gonna make new streaks... thanx for the tip

with anisotropy, you don't get a round specular highlight, but an elliptic one. you can control, how elliptical it is and also its orientation with maps. i only use the maps for the orientation, so for example on white parts the ellipse is at 0°, on light grey parts it's rotated by 90° and so on... hope this was undestandable

edit: btw, should the streaks start on the gridlines, as it is now, or should they really be everywhere?
and do you think, i should make the color map less subtile? i mean, i don't really want it to stick out, but maybe its a bit TOO subtile atm...