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Old 08-06-2007, 10:52 AM   #2901 (permalink)
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I'm considering trying again with the bridge/living area. I like the basic shape of the bridge and at the back but i think i can do it better....


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Uhhh, a Chamfer is a bevelled edge. There are many types of bevels, so I'm not sure what you mean when differentiating chamfer and bevel.
I'm on Max 9 and it's got one option to Chamfer and a seperate one to Bevel.

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Old 08-06-2007, 01:26 PM   #2902 (permalink)
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Maybe someone would like to explain why I said hexagonal rather than octagonal? Oh wait I know, cos I'm an idiot I did of course mean octagonal.

And in max, chamfering is used to basically bevel an edge or vertex that's already there, bevel extrudes the poly then increases or decreases the size of it to create the bevelled edge.
Could it be because you smoke your breakfast? JUST KIDDING!! Gotta tease you a little. So I was sorta right about the software treating it as two seperate things in a way. Darn software makers making it overly confusing. Case in point, spline models and polygonal models: they refer to different methods of modeling right, well, what they don't say is that they are both wireframes. How much easier would life be if ALL 3d software called it a wireframe instead of trying to sound big and important with fancy terms? *insert expletive here*

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ok some big updates to the Severus. Ok the first 2 are just showing off really but you can see the new hangers on the top of the ship, they are the rear hangers the face backwards to lunch and pick up support craft. the last pic is a new update well the bottem is now something instead of nothing lol so we have some detail and we also have the new ground support area up the front of the ship. i think thats enough explained for now, C&C welcome and any idea's to help improve it
Only thing I can say right now is, it's gonna need a lot of greebles, LOTS of them. And modeled too, not just bump maps. Otherwise,

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I'm considering trying again with the bridge/living area. I like the basic shape of the bridge and at the back but i think i can do it better....

I'm on Max 9 and it's got one option to Chamfer and a seperate one to Bevel.
That's kind of like kicking the dog, you can do it tail end first swinging your leg from the side, or you can kick him in the head straight on. Either way, you're still just kicking the dog. LOL!!!! I am just kidding about kicking the dog; I'm just using that as an example. I would NEVER do that, ever ever ever. I could have said: driving your car into a brick wall at 200Kph versus driving it off a 200 meter cliff, either way your car is FUBAR'ed! How you do it, isn't as important as the end result. *I soooo know that I am gonna get bitten by a dog now for saying that.*

As I said, I like the basic design of the bridge/living area. I just think it needs to be developed a little more. IE: window frames, lighting, greebling etc.

On another note. I have been playing around with an idea I've had for a while: a mid sized cargo ship. Nothing spectacular, as you will see. Just a plain jane work horse. I call it the Citation class. Why that you ask? I decided to indulge my sick sence of humor and name this class and all the ships in it after types of cars, particularly ones that were either: flops of epic purportions, ones that you'd be embarrased to have owned, or spent a large portion of their lives being repaired. Such cars include but are not limited to: Chevy Citation, Ford Pinto, Chevy Chevette, AMC Pacer, AMC Gremlin, Chevy Corvair, Ford Mustang 2, Chevy Vega, Edsel, AMC Eagle, AMC Javelin, etc. Feel free to contribute to the "Worst cars" naming list. I want all the stinkers. I just figured, if I had to write a fan-fic that included these ships and their names, I could get a ton of dialogue and bantor just from crews ragging on eachother about the ship and the ship name they are a crew of. Just some funny, fill time between the important stuff. Kind of like how SG Atlantis keeps bringing up the fact that Rodney is allergic to citrus and someone eventually pulls out a lemon just to harrass him. Anyways, it's no where's near done. I still have a ways to go on it. I'm just stopping for now because I am tired and need to go to bed, finally. Oh, and I included some cargo containers for scale; used them while modeling it to help keep things accurate. And yes, those are accurately scaled. They are, if I remember the name correctly, King High shipping containers, which are: 48 feet long, 8 feet wide, and 9 feet high. Got that directly from a website that listed the container sizes. The class will be able to hold 16 of them, plus a little loose smaller cargo in the main hull. Also, the bulbous front things are there to accomodate the fact that I am planning on it having dual front landing struts, so the retractible doors needed some place to go when open. Plus, it was something different, so I went with it. This example will be the U.S.S. Pinto. This class should be around 60 meters (200 feet) long, have a standard yet under powered hyperdrive, only one defensive railgun (just in case), limited sheilds, a crew of around 8-12, only 3 bathrooms (so you might have to hold it a while if you inadvertantly eat some Ex-lax), and generally be very spartan in decor, no missles or asgard beaming tech. She's just a plain jane freighter.

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Old 08-06-2007, 01:49 PM   #2903 (permalink)
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I call it the Citation class. Why that you ask? I decided to indulge my sick sence of humor and name this class and all the ships in it after types of cars, particularly ones that were either: flops of epic purportions, ones that you'd be embarrased to have owned, or spent a large portion of their lives being repaired. Such cars include but are not limited to: Chevy Citation, Ford Pinto, Chevy Chevette, AMC Pacer, AMC Gremlin, Chevy Corvair, Ford Mustang 2, Chevy Vega, Edsel, AMC Eagle, AMC Javelin, etc. Feel free to contribute to the "Worst cars" naming list. I want all the stinkers.
yeah how about any fordand you can also add a Geo Metro
and why in the hell did you put a gremlin on the list?!? those cars are soooo nice... I mean come on have you ever had to replace a heater core.. ohhh god its horrible tok me and my bro 6 hours to replace on a 90 trans am.. on a gremlin it took me 2 hours.... so I like that car. but I like my car better pic is my car

also sorry for the darkness in the pic but it was 9 pm when I took the pic

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Old 08-06-2007, 02:32 PM   #2904 (permalink)
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Looks good.... Are you just using American car names? If not then you can use anything by Lada, Skoda (Only the older stuff), Rover (MINUS THE MINI!!!), The Chevy badged Daewoos.... i could go on and on


I seem to be posting images about three steps behind where i actually am in building this. I've rebuilt the bridge/living area and made it slightly more streamlined. Where as the old one was 3 decks high this one is only two high.


I've chamfered the neck of the ship but due to all the different angles it's nigh on impossible to get any more chamfering into the body of the ship

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Old 08-06-2007, 02:41 PM   #2905 (permalink)
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i have to but in us aussies have the best cars they are called "Holdens" lmao beats ford anyday and evan our fords are better then the fords over there i reckon ( the looks lol dont no about power though ) i will have to get some pics and show you guys or just look up "VE Holden GTS" or "BA ford 2005 GT" on google to see the newest model lol but Holden is owned be GM motors i think just my opinoin but you guys will probably say our cars are well... s***. But i guess thats the way the world goes round lol

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Hey i liked the old Monaro.

Off topic- Anyone got a good way of f**king with a prank caller?

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Off topic- Anyone got a good way of f**king with a prank caller?
Well this may not work for a prank caller but my one friend tries to sell telemarketers melons each time they phone. I almost drop dead laughing each time he does it.

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This is what happens when a starship modeling newbie watches "Unending" 2 times in a row while downing 2 doubles of really good single malt scotch.

No detailing (except beginning textures) has been done. I was trying to imagine what Tau'ri ships might look like once the benefits of the new Asgard technologies had been fully realized.

Up until now, all my modeling experience has been designing/building powerboat hulls.

Comments? I know it's not a very good first effort, but take it easy on me, guys
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:07 PM   #2909 (permalink)
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yeah how about any fordand you can also add a Geo Metro
and why in the hell did you put a gremlin on the list?!? those cars are soooo nice... I mean come on have you ever had to replace a heater core.. ohhh god its horrible tok me and my bro 6 hours to replace on a 90 trans am.. on a gremlin it took me 2 hours.... so I like that car. but I like my car better pic is my car

also sorry for the darkness in the pic but it was 9 pm when I took the pic

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The Gremlin was on there for many reasons, it too had a explosion risk just like the Pinto, the look totally embodied the 70's - much embarrassment, and from what I've read, pieces of it would start falling off after a few years. You have a VW Bug as your car? That car has got to be older than you are. They stopped making those things here in 1977.

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Looks good.... Are you just using American car names? If not then you can use anything by Lada, Skoda (Only the older stuff), Rover (MINUS THE MINI!!!), The Chevy badged Daewoos.... i could go on and on

I seem to be posting images about three steps behind where i actually am in building this. I've rebuilt the bridge/living area and made it slightly more streamlined. Where as the old one was 3 decks high this one is only two high.


I've chamfered the neck of the ship but due to all the different angles it's nigh on impossible to get any more chamfering into the body of the ship
DING DING DING! That chamfering made all the difference. MUCH better! It's ok that you can't really chamfer the rest, you got the part that really needed it.

Well, I've only used American cars since they are the ones I know about the best. Although, I have heard that Lada cars were horrible too. I'll just have to take everyones word for it though, never heard of them before looking for the poopiest cars of all time.

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i have to but in us aussies have the best cars they are called "Holdens" lmao beats ford anyday and evan our fords are better then the fords over there i reckon ( the looks lol dont no about power though ) i will have to get some pics and show you guys or just look up "VE Holden GTS" or "BA ford 2005 GT" on google to see the newest model lol but Holden is owned be GM motors i think just my opinoin but you guys will probably say our cars are well... s***. But i guess thats the way the world goes round lol
Yea, but you guys drive on the wrong side of the road. LOL! Not to mention, the steering wheel in also on the wrong side. US, Aussie, European, doesn't matter. I haven't really liked many cars in the last 10 years.

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Hey i liked the old Monaro.

Off topic- Anyone got a good way of f**king with a prank caller?
Here's a good one. It'll make the prank caller and telemarketers really uncomfortable. Have you girlfriend, or best female friend join you with a tape recorder. Start recording. Proceed to make extremely sexy noises, moans groans etc. Then start with whipping sounds, talking dirty etc. Then finish it off by saying you are going to, are doing, the sickest most perverted stuff you can imagine. then, when you get a prank caller, just play the recording. I'm sure the person on the other end of the phone will be either embarrassed, or intrigued, right up until the sick stuff starts. Then, if you did it right, even the most perverted will be made physically sick from what they hear. Serves them right though. I did that to some telemarketers, and low and behold, I don't get telemarketer calls much anymore.

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This is what happens when a starship modeling newbie watches "Unending" 2 times in a row while downing 2 doubles of really good single malt scotch.

No detailing (except beginning textures) has been done. I was trying to imagine what Tau'ri ships might look like once the benefits of the new Asgard technologies had been fully realized.

Up until now, all my modeling experience has been designing/building powerboat hulls.

Comments? I know it's not a very good first effort, but take it easy on me, guys
Actually, it's a very good first effort. Far better than mine was, by a long shot. Just keep working on it. The more details you include in it, the better. If this is what you do after 2 doubles of scotch, then maybe you should start stocking up on it. I can't do that after 2 shots of expresso.
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....Only thing I can say right now is, it's gonna need a lot of greebles, LOTS of them. And modeled too, not just bump maps....

ugh, yeah....THANKS Freek ..like i havn't got enough to sort out *goes back into darkened room* Detailing SOON since the basics nearly done.

BTW: gotta try that selling telemarketing people melons! F-U-N-N-Y!!

and Dr Lee: BIGGER!! MUCH BIGGER!! either make the bridge windows smaller (say, like a passenger jets one) or make the ship BIG!!!!

Oh, and good refrence for a Vertical Launch System which i feel would suit your ships small size better. theres a small bunch of them on the sevy too.

And i...er...kind of liked it 3 stories tall. Gave it a very distinct look.

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