Calling all Stargate Fans!

[elitewolverine]

Originally Posted by mikala

That cannot be believed.
Those guys are specifically told to not give out info and, if they do, it's mis-information...

And where did that information come from?

fan based email from bruce the lead designer...

he stated he was not able to give any exact dimensions, but a estimate of over 700m should suffice...ill link it here in a sec just had a power outage and now have to do a google again cause my history was wiped

[Choo1701]

Originally Posted by elitewolverine

...i was wondering how long the orion ancient warship is...

uh oh. i didn't start this OKAY!! *runs out door*
(check elite wolverines leviathan thread )

and remeber people: the ships are only as big as the writers need them to be!

[elitewolverine]

Originally Posted by Choo1701

uh oh. i didn't start this OKAY!! *runs out door*
(check elite wolverines leviathan thread )

and remeber people: the ships are only as big as the writers need them to be!

lol i know i know, i started it lol, just needed a ruff estimate but then it slowly goes down to references, inches feet etc etc...

i was going to size the deadalus to my carrier, and use a estimated meter size of the daedalus to get my carrier size...and then size the auroa next to it lol...

just converted the auroa mesh to a single blender mesh, and was going to render a simple pic etc

but if a 302 is 29m wide (thats 27ft wider than a f-14), then the daedalus has to be in the order of 300m wide, from a scene i saw there were two 302's in the hanger strip with room to spare, making the hangar opening just under a football field wide, add two of those then, then the center sections, and 700m daedalus is not all that hard to believe, considering a football field is ~100m, without endzones...

[Choo1701]

Originally Posted by elitewolverine

a football field is ~100m, without endzones...

AH! but what football are we talking of? American? Canadian? English (THE football) or even Australian!!

see. can't be too careful.

Best idea would be too stick it at about 1km to 1.5km long and the Deady's at about 500m. Just 'cause there nice and round numbers that are easy to work with.

my 2 cents

[ZakeD]

Originally Posted by freekzilla

Ok, here is an update to the Europa. Does the front look better? What was it that you didn't like about it before?

1.) redid the front, changed slope angle, added bottom piece
2.) remodelled the back side pieces to better reflect the front section
3.) added roof pieces to "common" rooms
4.) added side struts to center hull section
5.) added accent pieces to bottom of "common" room sections
6.) added center divider to nose grill
7.) added support structure underneath "common" rooms (unseen in image)

Will be doing the following:
A.) Windows to side of center hull - sparsely and random
B.) More greebles to top center hull
C.) greebles and a few windows to sides of center hull in depressed area
D.) add "clamping" locations to the entrance doors so ramps can be secured

I can't decide what to do to the slanted sections in the back sides. Any suggestions? Overall though, does it look better? And can you see the Prometheus influence at all? I've tried to have that influence while keeping it original at the same time. C&C?!?

I didn't really like how it has the step things on the front. Not sure how else to explain that. But it looks better in the new one. Would still like to see a more Prometheus-like front.

[ZakeD]

Originally Posted by mikala

That cannot be believed.
Those guys are specifically told to not give out info and, if they do, it's mis-information...

And where did that information come from?

Me. xD I'm the dude y'all are talking about that was sent the email.

[mikala]

I was referring to information being given as disinformation.

[freekzilla]

Originally Posted by elitewolverine

not denying your specifications, was just re-irritating what bruce the lead designer said, cause all fan estimates are anywhere from 350m to 700+m for it...

just asking where did you get the exact 26m across for the 302? cause a full unswept tomcat f-14 is only 19m which is the largest inservice fighter, is also a two seater, and from the images from stargate shows etc, a unswept f-14 appears to be larger than a x-302, which imo more closely resembles a f-15 in wing span

just saying that at 26m wide, it would be over 27ft WIDER than a unswept f-14 tomcat, which has engines just as wide as the cockpit area, where the f-302's engins appear to be skinner than the cockpit, as well as the f-14's cockpit being a larger 2-man cockpit thand the f-302...

Bruce Woloshyn's 700 meter length for the Daedalus has been proven to be incorrect beyond all reasonable doubt. If it was 700 meters or thereabouts, it would be nearly a half mile long, which would also make it nearly 1/3 of a mile wide. Sorry, but that's not true, can't be, not even close. Every single, with "Camalot" the exception, puts the Daedalus at between 400-500 meters, with most estimates being around 450 meters. My own estimate came to 457 meters not including that attenna thingy in the front. And just so that you know, Bruce has also said that Atlantis is only 1.5km in diameter. So if what he has said is to be believed, then the Daedalus is almost half the size of Atlantis. And I think you'll agree that it is impossible for that to be true. So, you can't use anything Bruce says as a basis for anything.

I know what e-mail you are talking about from Bruce Woloshyn. I quoted it from ZakeD.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/180936-post1707.html

Frankly, I think Bruce W. is just using an extra large shovel, if ya know what I mean. I mean, just look at all the discussions it has caused here and on other sites. And if people are talking about it, they're likely to watch just to get some sort of info as to the validity of the claim.

Now, for the F-302 size discussion. I think Bar mispoke himself. Earlier in the thread he states a 17 meter wide size.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3...tml#post138373

The other thing is, the F-302 is wider than it is long. It's dimensions are actually very comparable to real life aircraft. Typically aircraft are longer than they are wider. The F-302 is just the opposite. A swept F-14 is 19.1m long and 11.58 wide. The F-302 is most likely 17 meters wide and 10 meters long, or very close to that size. I think it would be reasonable to give or take a meter from that size, but only 1.

Also, I think it's a good idea, for the sake of the thread and all of our sanities, that we all work in a common scale. Everything I've done is based on a ~450 meter Daedalus, a ~17 meter wide F-302. In some ways, using a common accepted scale makes it easier to build things. We just can't rely on info from TPTB on this matter as they have been too inconsistant and unreasonable.

Now, as for how big the Aurora/Orion class ships ares, well, no one really knows for sure. But I think it's safe to say between 1000m and 1800m. It is afterall, atleast twice the size of the Daedalus. That we know. Other than that, it's really anyones guess I think.

[ZakeD]

Originally Posted by freekzilla

Bruce Woloshyn's 700 meter length for the Daedalus has been proven to be incorrect beyond all reasonable doubt. If it was 700 meters or thereabouts, it would be nearly a half mile long, which would also make it nearly 1/3 of a mile wide. Sorry, but that's not true, can't be, not even close. Every single, with "Camalot" the exception, puts the Daedalus at between 400-500 meters, with most estimates being around 450 meters. My own estimate came to 457 meters not including that attenna thingy in the front. And just so that you know, Bruce has also said that Atlantis is only 1.5km in diameter. So if what he has said is to be believed, then the Daedalus is almost half the size of Atlantis. And I think you'll agree that it is impossible for that to be true. So, you can't use anything Bruce says as a basis for anything.

I know what e-mail you are talking about from Bruce Woloshyn. I quoted it from ZakeD.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/180936-post1707.html

Frankly, I think Bruce W. is just using an extra large shovel, if ya know what I mean. I mean, just look at all the discussions it has caused here and on other sites. And if people are talking about it, they're likely to watch just to get some sort of info as to the validity of the claim.

Now, for the F-302 size discussion. I think Bar mispoke himself. Earlier in the thread he states a 17 meter wide size.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3...tml#post138373

The other thing is, the F-302 is wider than it is long. It's dimensions are actually very comparable to real life aircraft. Typically aircraft are longer than they are wider. The F-302 is just the opposite. A swept F-14 is 19.1m long and 11.58 wide. The F-302 is most likely 17 meters wide and 10 meters long, or very close to that size. I think it would be reasonable to give or take a meter from that size, but only 1.

Also, I think it's a good idea, for the sake of the thread and all of our sanities, that we all work in a common scale. Everything I've done is based on a ~450 meter Daedalus, a ~17 meter wide F-302. In some ways, using a common accepted scale makes it easier to build things. We just can't rely on info from TPTB on this matter as they have been too inconsistant and unreasonable.

Now, as for how big the Aurora/Orion class ships ares, well, no one really knows for sure. But I think it's safe to say between 1000m and 1800m. It is afterall, atleast twice the size of the Daedalus. That we know. Other than that, it's really anyones guess I think.

I'm sticking with the 700m figure as it is the closest thing we have to a cannon number and I trust it more than random people scalings, which I have seen range from 400 meters to over a kilometer. As for Aurora, according to the maker of the model, it is 1km.

[al3d]

OK..man, 317 pages..wow. ok, so the deadlus is exactly 740m in lenght, that's with the front antennas, witout those, it's 690m. 370m in width and 104m in height without the antennas.

I hope this clears a few things for you guys