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Old 09-24-2006, 06:54 PM   #981 (permalink)
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I think the neck could do with being slightly wider.
Either that, or something totally different from Daedalus to distinguish them from each other.
Maybe a slightly wider nose, like the Asgard ships?
Feel free to dismiss my comments. It just needs one more little thing to make it unique(I don't know what, but maybe with a little brainstorming?).
It does look very good.
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Well, the idea was sorta to mimic the Daedalus. From top down, they look VERY close. But from head on, there is a major difference. Again, I try to keep the ships within a set familiarity. The logic behind this is so that they can share some parts between several different ship classes, thus maximizing the economies of scale. I deliberately kept the neck narrow because it didn't have the missles there. But I do see your points. That's why I made the tip of the nose very different. But I'll brainstorm and try to make some changes.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:14 PM   #982 (permalink)
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It does look good.
With a little work, it could look great...
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:47 PM   #983 (permalink)
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Hey bar!! Its Apophis! So, i kinda like the Paladin class but i think it should be more of a covert attack destroyer, w/ the cloaking ability of a ha tak or the cargo vessel Valla used, and have a few gouald staff canons and rail guns and a mixture of missle tubes, asgard beaming tech. ( think WWII heavy destroyers) that hunt subs and supply ships etc... or maybe in the line of the BOP in ST?
I wouldnt go with another Daedelous clone even a small one, it should have a handicap like no fighters, just a few jumpers for shuttles like the enterprise.
And have it make up for the handicap with the extra tech from the asgard and the ancients. Just my two cents worth.

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Old 09-24-2006, 08:35 PM   #984 (permalink)
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Hey bar!! Its Apophis!


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So, i kinda like the Paladin class but i think it should be more of a covert attack destroyer, w/ the cloaking ability of a ha tak or the cargo vessel Valla used, and have a few gouald staff canons and rail guns and a mixture of missle tubes, asgard beaming tech. ( think WWII heavy destroyers) that hunt subs and supply ships etc... or maybe in the line of the BOP in ST?
Actually, it does have "staff canons", 4 of them, that's what the Plasma Pulse Cannons (PPC) are. And the missles are slung underneath the slanted structure leading to the fighter bays, like a bomber would. There's also 22 double barrel rail guns.

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I wouldnt go with another Daedelous clone even a small one, it should have a handicap like no fighters, just a few jumpers for shuttles like the enterprise.
And have it make up for the handicap with the extra tech from the asgard and the ancients. Just my two cents worth.
Look back on page 95 I think it is, for the specs. A lot of the things you suggest are already there. The only thing missing is the cloak from the Al'Kesh or the Tel'tek. The Ha'Tak is the Goa'uld mothership.

It's not exactly a clone of the Big D, just shares a similar outward appearance. It shares a lot of parts with the Daedalus, but in essence it's completely different. Naturally, because it is smaller, the inside is VERY different, but again, shares the same theme as the Daedalus. The one huge difference is that the Paladin cannot carry much cargo at all, and a very limited lab count, only 1. Overall, with exception to the appearance, it is as different from the Daedalus as the Prometheus was. Also, with it's smaller design and smaller crew, it is able to be commanded by a lower rank AF officer, like a Major or even a Captain. It's the kind of ship Maj. Lorne would be given command of. God knows he's been a Maj. far too long. Since season 5 I think. It also addresses a major drawback of the Daedalus. The Big D tries to do everything, war ship, cargo ship, carrier, transport, etc etc. But it doesn't do any of those things exceedingly well. The Paladin however, does. It is a pure war ship. The main reason for having the hangars is, so that fighters can go out to patrol, or they can accept a fighter or jumper from another ship if it needs to. It's a kind of safety net.

But oh well, I guess I'm going to make some big changes to it.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:58 PM   #986 (permalink)
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Well, I apologize for not reading all of the posts, so you did consider the BOP approach, hmm, impressive, if i had the software ( maybe Christmas) i`ll show a few ideas too, how about just one hanger on top or on the bottom and making her a slender or sleek and long and narrow?
I also stand corrected on the cloaked ship topic, I get them all mixed up in my old age!
But you are doing so well, a lot better than i would!! I just thought maybe if ya start off with a destroyer shape and work it from there, that might be neat?
Oh well, shes your ship and a damn fine one at that! keep up the great work!

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And we nearly have a hundred pages with this thread!
Hoo-rah!
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Well, I apologize for not reading all of the posts, so you did consider the BOP approach, hmm, impressive, if i had the software ( maybe Christmas) i`ll show a few ideas too, how about just one hanger on top or on the bottom and making her a slender or sleek and long and narrow?
I also stand corrected on the cloaked ship topic, I get them all mixed up in my old age!
But you are doing so well, a lot better than i would!! I just thought maybe if ya start off with a destroyer shape and work it from there, that might be neat?
Oh well, shes your ship and a damn fine one at that! keep up the great work!
Hey! Watch it with the old age comments! I'm not far behind you! LOL ! ! !

I dunno about the long and slender angle. It doesn't fit with a warship "feel". It would also make the ship feel unbalanced. But I'll play around with it.
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Sorry for the age comment, but i do forget a some stuff sometimes, i welcome your ideas, ya know maybe this is the first of the paladin class destroyers made just for hit and run against the Wraith and it is also maybe based on the Ancient cruisers?

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Sorry for the age comment, but i do forget a some stuff sometimes, i welcome your ideas, ya know maybe this is the first of the paladin class destroyers made just for hit and run against the Wraith and it is also maybe based on the Ancient cruisers?
I was joking Stippy!!! I was teasing you!!!! I may be stuffy sometimes, but I do have a sense of humour, somewhere, I keep forgetting where I left it last. And for some reason, I never forget where I put my keys. Odd coincidence don't you think? LOL!
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