Enterprise J

[MadKoiFish]

Originally Posted by Aresius

uhhh... the nacceles look too close together...
been browsing the net and found these references...
hope they help:
http://www.utopiaplanitia.info/bluep...nal/pencil.jpg
http://www.neutralzone.de/database/F...C-1701-J19.jpg
http://64.225.237.28/gedwards/images/ENT_J_crop.jpg

First and last arnt the J
First is atolm's take on the design
The last isnt the J at all but a similar style ship. The second image is the same graphic I think as what was shown on the series so Id go by it instead the one with archer would have lens distortion and would be harder to decern porportions and make measurments off of. I have a much larger version I scanned once for someone here at sfm. If I can find the files again Ill post them. Unless someone else here has them.

[Dave-Dave]

Originally Posted by MadKoiFish

First and last arnt the J
First is atolm's take on the design
The last isnt the J at all but a similar style ship. The second image is the same graphic I think as what was shown on the series so Id go by it instead the one with archer would have lens distortion and would be harder to decern porportions and make measurments off of. I have a much larger version I scanned once for someone here at sfm. If I can find the files again Ill post them. Unless someone else here has them.

Thanks while the holo image is not all that clear it is all there is in a canon design, without concept art there would be no point in even attemping this design but I will give it my best effort. Thanks to all who have suppported the idea and any pictures would be of great help.

[Aresius]

Originally Posted by MadKoiFish

First and last arnt the J

okay, so be the first not the J... TWhether the last is the J or a ship of same class doesn't matter much, since this is the only image of the lower side of a ship from that era... And it looks quite similiar... So I'd say it might be the sister-ship...
The second is really the image from the show...

[MadKoiFish]

Originally Posted by Aresius

okay, so be the first not the J... TWhether the last is the J or a ship of same class doesn't matter much, since this is the only image of the lower side of a ship from that era... And it looks quite similiar... So I'd say it might be the sister-ship...
The second is really the image from the show...

The last is clearly stated in the past is not the J at all and eluded to in the SOTL book as to not even being part of that era but a TNG era experimental design.

http://www.stguardian.to/fed/starshi...ipsotl2007.jpg
this is that ship minus the saucer. And DAMN I love the D in that shot.

Originally Posted by Dave-Dave

Thanks while the holo image is not all that clear it is all there is in a canon design, without concept art there would be no point in even attemping this design but I will give it my best effort. Thanks to all who have suppported the idea and any pictures would be of great help.

That image above is the same image used in the show. Its mirriored and back lit. Why I said you should refrence to it is higher rez opticaly and the lack of distortion placed on it due to it being displayed on a flat plane and the unknown of camera lens, will lend distortion to it.
higher rez
http://www.utopiaplanitia.info/ships/1701j/entjbig.jpg

[commandersozo]

hey dave
welcome at sfm. nice work, keep it up and let us see, where it will go...

[Dave-Dave]

Originally Posted by commandersozo

hey dave
welcome at sfm. nice work, keep it up and let us see, where it will go...

Ok no problem I was hoping for some kind of input from everyone any help is welcome this is my latest screen lots of detail to finish but its shaping up.

Thanks for the pics MadKoiFish nice detail that will help detail is my next step. -D

[black campbell]

I'm in the minority. I love the design, but the flatness of the saucer & number of windows seems to indicate this is a monster big vessel...keep that in mind as you work.

Madkoifish did a fantastic take on this that he gave up on (curses!) If you search for pancake class you shuld be able to find it.

Off to a nice start, however!

[Dave-Dave]

Originally Posted by black campbell

I'm in the minority. I love the design, but the flatness of the saucer & number of windows seems to indicate this is a monster big vessel...keep that in mind as you work.

Madkoifish did a fantastic take on this that he gave up on (curses!) If you search for pancake class you shuld be able to find it.

Off to a nice start, however!

Hmm, yes no windows its not finished yet this is just the hull really needs a paint job and I still have to put hardpoints on it, as for size here is a test screen of the ship in Armada II.
Just a little larger then a galaxy class.

[efritsch]

Your model it looking good. There are a LOT of skylights on the 1701-J.

Has anyone ever thought of putting Star Trek Ships into Homeworld 2? That way you could have full 3D? I'm not a huge trek fan, I like it, but even I thing it would be neat to use them in HW2.

[Captain J. Wesley]

is that armada 2??????? sweet. I would suggest it sized down a little, I'm not sure, but I bet its not 9 times bigger than a galaxy class.