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monsoontide · 07-10-2007, 02:23 PM

Here is a render + mock up background that is a bit closer to the scene in the film... the shot where the Baron has been summoned by the Emperor who has srrived on Dune and while the Baron says nothing there is a voice over the intercom that says something like "It's been confirmed. The Emperor's had Rabban siezed."

**Aethernaut** · 07-10-2007, 03:05 PM

Very nice! That Harkonnen ship looks really good.

It's a shame Lynch couldn't make the film he wanted to make. He should have split it up into two or three parts (the "Alan Smithee" edit is a trainwreck). He did however have a brilliant art department that turned out some very unique and dark designs. The only thing they totally screwed up was the ornithopter, yours are way better. And the Weirding Modules were kind of a strange addition to the universe, I would have much rather liked to have seen a film adaptation of the Weirding Way. I think it might have added a lot more interest to the story than just introducing a piece of strange hardware.

monsoontide · 07-10-2007, 11:18 PM

I don't blame David Lynch for taking his name of the extended edition - whoever put that together just butchered it! And from what I understand there are still deleted scenes that they didn't even use.

Considering the technology available at the time, some of the effects were great, especially the way they filmed the static models on platforms high in the air with the little cut out bits in them so the camera could see the live actors perfectly placed 100 or so meters away, so the effect was all "in-camera".
The other awesome effect was the body shields... took me a while to track down how they did that, but aparently it was a 6 month rotoscope job for some poor soul!
The worms are cool and always reminded me a bit of big whales in some of the shots.
But yeah, the Ornithopters (Both Atreides and Harkonnen) just suck. Funnily enough, even that badly acted new mini-series didn't try to do them properly either! Will have to post a screenshot of my Harkonnen Thopter redesign at some point (It's just a crappy 3D "Sketch" to see if it would work... will make it look more like the movie one so it would be easier to match to the exisiting interior and crashed exterior shots)

Would really like to do something like a DUNE "Legacy edition" - like the cool work Mike Verta is doing (for his own private satisfaction) on Star Wars...
Welcome to STAR*WARS - Legacy Edition
... but WITH new effect replacing those old ones that are just crap - but without making it look out of place. (Would really like to replace some of those funky end battle effects - like the one where the sand falls on all the soldiers but they keep running "under" it! LOL).

BTW, would anyone be interested if I made these models available for public download?

monsoontide · 07-11-2007, 12:21 PM

This is a quick and dirty redesign of the Harkonnen 'Thopter.
Sort of a proof of concept model before I go and model the Hi-Poly version - which will be more accurate to the film one in the front portion.

**ChrisGFX** · 07-11-2007, 12:40 PM

great work so far

can't wait to see more

Chris

**backstept** · 07-11-2007, 01:26 PM

I'm loving the 'thopters

here's a drawing I saw of a 'thopter that I really liked:
http://www.classic-space.com/plugins...ps/Thopter.jpg

Aresius · 07-11-2007, 04:46 PM

man, that Thopter's great... Both of them are damn cool...

Furyofaseraph · 07-11-2007, 05:44 PM

Dune was my favorite book as a kid. Whilst I am not a huge fan of either movies done, I am a bigger fan of lynch's film. The Sci-Fi Channel version may be closer to the "facts" of the book, I always felt Lynch's was closer to the "feel" of the book.
Anyways, I look forward to seeing more, especially the 'thopter. Keep up the fantastic work.

**Aethernaut** · 07-12-2007, 04:49 AM

Very nice Harkonnen 'thopter, monsoontide!

My only suggestion would be moving the wings to a point closer to the center of lift, i.e. further toward the centerline of the craft. Or... maybe add some canards toward the nose that flap like hummingbird or dragonfly wings to center the lift.

monsoontide · 07-12-2007, 05:14 AM

What I had thought of was having the "rocket pods" described in the book at the front of the vehicle (somwhat like harrier jumpjet vents) with the wings as they are, so the vehicle sort of flies in that Helicopter manner - nose tilted down. The idea for mounting the wings there is twofold... 1- I'm trying to keep as much to the movie deigns as possible so you wouldn't have to redo the couple of exterior shots with the actors. 2- Its unusual (And unnantural wing position, underlining the fact that this is a machine) and just a bit different from every other ornithopter drawing I've ever seen which are all a bit too much like helicopters with wings instead of rotors and just don't feel like they fit in the world of the movie.

07-10-2007, 02:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
monsoontide SFM Nugget Realname: Sasha Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 46	Harkonnen Flagship WIP Here is a render + mock up background that is a bit closer to the scene in the film... the shot where the Baron has been summoned by the Emperor who has srrived on Dune and while the Baron says nothing there is a voice over the intercom that says something like "It's been confirmed. The Emperor's had Rabban siezed."

07-10-2007, 03:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Aethernaut Edselprise: Just Say No! Realname: Chris Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA, USA, North America, Sol III, Sirius Sector Age: 39 Posts: 593	Very nice! That Harkonnen ship looks really good. It's a shame Lynch couldn't make the film he wanted to make. He should have split it up into two or three parts (the "Alan Smithee" edit is a trainwreck). He did however have a brilliant art department that turned out some very unique and dark designs. The only thing they totally screwed up was the ornithopter, yours are way better. And the Weirding Modules were kind of a strange addition to the universe, I would have much rather liked to have seen a film adaptation of the Weirding Way. I think it might have added a lot more interest to the story than just introducing a piece of strange hardware.
	:: JJ's Edselprise is an abomination. I guess "we're not doing a reboot" meant exactly the opposite. :: "If World War II had been a fashion show, we'd all be speaking German now." --Yours Truly

07-10-2007, 11:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
monsoontide SFM Nugget Realname: Sasha Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 46	DUNE movie commentary. I don't blame David Lynch for taking his name of the extended edition - whoever put that together just butchered it! And from what I understand there are still deleted scenes that they didn't even use. Considering the technology available at the time, some of the effects were great, especially the way they filmed the static models on platforms high in the air with the little cut out bits in them so the camera could see the live actors perfectly placed 100 or so meters away, so the effect was all "in-camera". The other awesome effect was the body shields... took me a while to track down how they did that, but aparently it was a 6 month rotoscope job for some poor soul! The worms are cool and always reminded me a bit of big whales in some of the shots. But yeah, the Ornithopters (Both Atreides and Harkonnen) just suck. Funnily enough, even that badly acted new mini-series didn't try to do them properly either! Will have to post a screenshot of my Harkonnen Thopter redesign at some point (It's just a crappy 3D "Sketch" to see if it would work... will make it look more like the movie one so it would be easier to match to the exisiting interior and crashed exterior shots) Would really like to do something like a DUNE "Legacy edition" - like the cool work Mike Verta is doing (for his own private satisfaction) on Star Wars... Welcome to STAR*WARS - Legacy Edition ... but WITH new effect replacing those old ones that are just crap - but without making it look out of place. (Would really like to replace some of those funky end battle effects - like the one where the sand falls on all the soldiers but they keep running "under" it! LOL). BTW, would anyone be interested if I made these models available for public download?

07-11-2007, 12:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
monsoontide SFM Nugget Realname: Sasha Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 46	Harkonen Thopter EARLY WIP This is a quick and dirty redesign of the Harkonnen 'Thopter. Sort of a proof of concept model before I go and model the Hi-Poly version - which will be more accurate to the film one in the front portion.

07-11-2007, 12:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
ChrisGFX SFM Guru Realname: Christian Fröhlich Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Age: 39 Posts: 486	great work so far can't wait to see more Chris
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07-11-2007, 01:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
backstept Better Dead Than Red Realname: Andy Join Date: May 2006 Location: Syracuse NY USA Age: 24 Posts: 3,662	I'm loving the 'thopters here's a drawing I saw of a 'thopter that I really liked: http://www.classic-space.com/plugins...ps/Thopter.jpg
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07-11-2007, 04:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
Aresius SFM Oracle Realname: Alexander Weber Join Date: May 2006 Location: Schatthausen, Germany Age: 22 Posts: 5,647	man, that Thopter's great... Both of them are damn cool...
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07-11-2007, 05:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
Furyofaseraph SFM Guru Realname: Rob Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 267	Dune was my favorite book as a kid. Whilst I am not a huge fan of either movies done, I am a bigger fan of lynch's film. The Sci-Fi Channel version may be closer to the "facts" of the book, I always felt Lynch's was closer to the "feel" of the book. Anyways, I look forward to seeing more, especially the 'thopter. Keep up the fantastic work.
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07-12-2007, 04:49 AM	#19 (permalink)
Aethernaut Edselprise: Just Say No! Realname: Chris Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA, USA, North America, Sol III, Sirius Sector Age: 39 Posts: 593	Very nice Harkonnen 'thopter, monsoontide! My only suggestion would be moving the wings to a point closer to the center of lift, i.e. further toward the centerline of the craft. Or... maybe add some canards toward the nose that flap like hummingbird or dragonfly wings to center the lift.
	:: JJ's Edselprise is an abomination. I guess "we're not doing a reboot" meant exactly the opposite. :: "If World War II had been a fashion show, we'd all be speaking German now." --Yours Truly

07-12-2007, 05:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
monsoontide SFM Nugget Realname: Sasha Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 46	What I had thought of was having the "rocket pods" described in the book at the front of the vehicle (somwhat like harrier jumpjet vents) with the wings as they are, so the vehicle sort of flies in that Helicopter manner - nose tilted down. The idea for mounting the wings there is twofold... 1- I'm trying to keep as much to the movie deigns as possible so you wouldn't have to redo the couple of exterior shots with the actors. 2- Its unusual (And unnantural wing position, underlining the fact that this is a machine) and just a bit different from every other ornithopter drawing I've ever seen which are all a bit too much like helicopters with wings instead of rotors and just don't feel like they fit in the world of the movie.

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