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Old 11-02-2007, 06:13 AM   #21 (permalink)
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My gripe with the Ancients is that there vessels seemed to be older then many of there cities which led me to believe that these ships are actually hold overs from a earlier time in the Ancient civilization before there stargates. They built cities, they built shuttles, they built stargates however they seemed to have discontinued use of there vessels for other then exploration and defensive duties. They never did seem to build new ships so it appeared they simply modifyed the existing ships with what ever modern tech they had at the time and did repairs on them however if a ship was lost it was lost for good making them quite valuable for defensive duties but not full scale war. Seems they went for the we don't need warship idea and when the wraith appeared it slapped them full in the face. After that the Ancients fled and returned to earth then accended some time after they never built anything that was vessels in the milky way galaxy so they probably were no longer a military power after the wraith incident. Taur'i vessels (terran vessels) are designed purely for function only. There for all intents and purposes warships and are designed as such there duty to defend against alien attacks and or to engage against another vessels. Looks are not that important. The Gou'ld ships are different cause first they were already the dominant force in the galaxy with little danger of assualts from a forigen power except another gou'ld. They had plenty of time to design ships. Also they were full of ego. They believed themselves to be gods so there ships projected that image in this case pryamids. The only thing they had going for them was that they had powerful weapon systems and shields and little resistence. The Asgaurd are also similar in that they had few ememies were left largely alone and thereby had time to improve there designs. the taur'i from the moment since they entered the gate have been under a semi state of war with almost every power in the galaxy. they don't have the time to make nice looking ships when everyone else is trying to conquor, kill, or control them. Heck even the ORI ships were like the Goul'd Big imposing ships with lots of wasted space looks cool, and intimidating with weapons to make that true. A Tur'i vessel of equivlent size if they got that advanced in ship building would probably be very similar to a battlstar almost all the ship would be dedicated to function and military.

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Old 11-02-2007, 10:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I dont know how you figured out that their ships are older than their cities. There is no mention of that at all, not to mention that atlantis was on earth prior to going to the pegasus galaxy (which is before the wraith war since the lanteans caused the birth of the wraith species). So, the cities are quite old indeed. Infact there is very little information regarding the amount of ships and actual war with the wraith itself. The did not have the need to make 100000 warships because there was no enemy worth mentioning prior to the wraith. I also dont know how you found out that the ancients did not build new ships. Im pretty sure that if a civilization entered a war they would make some ships...I mean...common sense really. They may not have made a lot since their resources would have been stretched pretty thin. But you also left out that they had satelite weapons dispersed throughout the pegasus galaxy. If you saw the atlantis episode "Progeny" you would notice all the ships destroying replicators (which was during the wraith war). So they had ships, just not as much as compared to the wraith.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Cool ship sAs. It does look like it can cut through other ships if their shields are down and is it supposed to be a Lantian design? with a few changes it can probobly become an Earth ship. And the thread pic looks great.

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Old 11-03-2007, 05:49 AM   #24 (permalink)
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True its not known how many ships they actually fielded. However just because they have satilite weapons doesn't neccessarly mean that they were building ships. Also those vessels bombarding the replicator planet doesn't show how far they were during the wraith war. We know they created the replicators to combat the wraith however we don't know how long the war actually was. I would say it took the course of several years perhap decades enough time for the wraith to cause destruction to the ancients. The replicators were a early mistake during the war that the ancients main fleet dealt with before the wraith became powerful or nurmous enough to start dealing significant damage to there fleets. Hopefully in the series they show something that allows the construction of capital ships or at least a space equivilent of a bone yard something to show more ancient cap ships.

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If you and watch progeny (I just went back and watched the part where they explain how the replicators came about) you pretty much are told what was happening during the war. You can safely infer a lot about the war and how they were/are fighting at the time of replicator creation. An early mistake, I doubt it, it's said they were desperate in finding a new, more effective way to fight the wraith. So, I mean, logically, if they were desperate than they must have exhausted several posibilties, which would have taken time.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:09 AM   #26 (permalink)
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that makes alot of sense..

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Old 11-03-2007, 03:54 PM   #27 (permalink)
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take a logic course? It's also said in the show, by the wraith, that they had basically defeated the lanteans, and THEN the replicators showed up. Just watch the show dude.
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Progress of work on the film nowadays move foward a bit slowly, but now things going to speed up. Today, I started to work on Midway Space Station. Tomorrow, or next day, it will be finished. Now I have much freetime, so I can finish it on the next two days.


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Old 11-14-2007, 10:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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ok, who do I talk to for some voice work around here?
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Please, Please, please could you post some orthos of your lovely looking completed midway,
This is high on my list of things i wanna model....

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