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Old 06-06-2008, 03:28 AM   #421 (permalink)
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...I just pushed my first 767 tonight so I am doing great . . . . gp
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:13 AM   #422 (permalink)
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I knew the HULK was hiding up in Canada!
every once in a while I get to do something cool like that . . . .
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:29 PM   #423 (permalink)
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OK...File sent mate..had a minor surgery last afternoon so had to runoff quickly. Hope this helps out. When you do boolean operation and when you use the late tool don't forget to weld your points, you had a ton floating in that small section alone. when doing pipes for nurnies and such, 12 to 15 sided disc is well enough. Remember that nurnies once painted don't need a large polycount, specialy things you'll never get that close to. NEVER use double sided polygones like i mentionned, instead make sure your polygones are properly aligned.

A Few exemple to illustrate...no need for description realy.it's self explained realy.
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Thanks for the help Al and also thanks for the file . . . .
I will check it out and when I go over the mesh again I will take the optimization methods with me . . .
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time to park airplanes again . . . .
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:44 PM   #425 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help Al and also thanks for the file . . . .
I will check it out and when I go over the mesh again I will take the optimization methods with me . . .
ciao,

time to park airplanes again . . . .
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Glad to help when i can mate...and be carfull with those blind spot when backing those jumbo jets.....

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Old 06-06-2008, 03:19 PM   #426 (permalink)
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Double sided polygons are one of hose horrible artefacts which are tough to remove, like 3 point quads, the gits! (and before you ask, yes you can!) 'Unify polygons' found in the detail tab is most useful for co-located polygons!

Band glue is your freind, when you have rows of quad loops, which are redundant, as is 'disolve edges' when you don't. As a personal recommend, don't have large ngons with holes in them, cut them in such a way they are 2 ngons, without a hole (use the connect tool - l). In my experience when you perform subsequent boolean operations and they break. Every now and again polygons get 'broken' and become inverted or go 'black' one simple solution is to triple them and merge them, which usually fixes them, massivelly pointed ngons are the worst for that, so I just do that as a matter of course these days. (shift t - shift z).

I agree with Al and others, you should clean 'unnecessary' polygons, but things like how many rounding polygons you are using are personal choice. GP - if you want I'm happy to share non-lossy optimisation techniques with you, just PM me or IM me

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"Personal choice" is just the polite way of saying a bad choice was made. Most rendered errors with polygins are easily avoided with wise use of edge loops, especially when cutting holes in to any polygon.

It has nothing to do with pro v hobby, it makes life easy regardless of why a model is made.
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Excuse me, but don't put words in my mouth, that is not what I meant at all.

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OK...File sent mate..had a minor surgery last afternoon so had to runoff quickly. Hope this helps out. When you do boolean operation and when you use the late tool don't forget to weld your points, you had a ton floating in that small section alone. when doing pipes for nurnies and such, 12 to 15 sided disc is well enough. Remember that nurnies once painted don't need a large polycount, specialy things you'll never get that close to. NEVER use double sided polygones like i mentionned, instead make sure your polygones are properly aligned.

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nice work, al, hope they surgery went fine.

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Excuse me, but don't put words in my mouth, that is not what I meant at all.
Well how many rounding polygons you use is still an optimisation issue no? And arguably one of the biggest arse-hole jobs to fix later.

Use too many, and the model becomes heavier than it needs to be, like anything, you have to use common sense, not just personally saying 12 segments is fine, when 2 or 3 will look exactly the same when rendered.

If you didn't mean it like that fair enough, but it how it reads.

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