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**Kadaeux** · 06-06-2008, 07:24 AM

Hey nice fighter mate!

star_creations · 06-06-2008, 09:28 AM

Thanks every...but I will need some help. Yep i said help.
I just noticed the numbers are see-through...I tried to make a composite (layers)...but when i (just discovered) that when I layered the numbers on the wings...the numbers become see-through.

So my need and help is this, how can I layer numbers on a object without making the numbers see-through?

**Meph** · 06-06-2008, 09:49 AM

Hmm, that shouldn't happen, only if you're working with opacity maps that aren't aligned properly. Since you're working with composite material I'll presume you have a layer for the base colour and another for the markings? Double check the opacity maps, black is transparent, white is opaque.

There are two ways to set this up. The base layer is your base colour and weathering and the one on top is your lettering. One way to set this one up is with jpg's or bmp's, then you need a white background with coloured lettering for the diffuse slot and an inverted one in the opacity slot. Or instead of working with jpg's (which are hell on max's memory handling anyway) you can use png's, in Photoshop, just make a png with a transparent backgrouund and just your black lettering and use that as top layer. Max will keep the alpha channel of that png intact and automatically you'll have a fully transparent layer with only the lettering showing.

If you really can't figure out what's going on, you can always PM me to arrange to get your material to me so I can take a closer look at it.

**Kadaeux** · 06-06-2008, 10:12 AM

Hmm, does it do it if you render it or only in the modelling view?

star_creations · 06-06-2008, 10:12 AM

BINGO!....Great, thanks for the help...it worked...I knew in a way PNG was the answer, but I kept on using the Opacity...that is what was screwing me up...

it is funny, but months ago. I knew how to layer like this, but then I Completely forgot...thanks again for reminding me bro...Great help...

I can always count on my fellow modelers out there in cyberspace.

**Meph** · 06-06-2008, 10:27 AM

Hehe, anytime mate. That's why there are billions of photons carrying bits and bites flying though big, fat cables over the ocean's floors and landmasses.

The internet is NOT only for pron!

Another good tip is to include the lettering onto your base texture, then you can weather and 'dirty-up' all at once in one big psd file

star_creations · 06-07-2008, 03:32 AM

Here is my first try of creating the Phoenix Logo.

What do you think?

**Kadaeux** · 06-07-2008, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meph

Hehe, anytime mate. That's why there are billions of photons carrying bits and bites flying though big, fat cables over the ocean's floors and landmasses. The internet is NOT only for pron!

Another good tip is to include the lettering onto your base texture, then you can weather and 'dirty-up' all at once in one big psd file

*A resounding slap rings through SFM* Don't you EVER swear like that again, you hear me

kborak · 06-07-2008, 07:06 AM

ROFL Kadaeux. I like the pheonix, but what you think about a hollow part for the eye?
and I really dont have a color scheme in mind The sqaudron name I was thinking of was screaming pheonix, but its not plural does it still work.

**Kadaeux** · 06-07-2008, 08:02 AM

Phoenixi (Pronounced= Fe,Nix,I)

I like the logo myself.

06-06-2008, 07:24 AM	#141 (permalink)
Kadaeux Battlefleet Admiral Realname: Kitt Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 24 Posts: 1,912	Hey nice fighter mate!
	Reality is like a kick in the balls, you see something you like and WHAM. FIRESTORM My Greeble Project Warhammer 40'000 team., \| Warhammer 40'000 Threads thread. My planet Tutorial

06-06-2008, 09:49 AM	#143 (permalink)
Meph SFM Obsessed Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leuven, Belgium Age: 31 Posts: 1,152	Hmm, that shouldn't happen, only if you're working with opacity maps that aren't aligned properly. Since you're working with composite material I'll presume you have a layer for the base colour and another for the markings? Double check the opacity maps, black is transparent, white is opaque. There are two ways to set this up. The base layer is your base colour and weathering and the one on top is your lettering. One way to set this one up is with jpg's or bmp's, then you need a white background with coloured lettering for the diffuse slot and an inverted one in the opacity slot. Or instead of working with jpg's (which are hell on max's memory handling anyway) you can use png's, in Photoshop, just make a png with a transparent backgrouund and just your black lettering and use that as top layer. Max will keep the alpha channel of that png intact and automatically you'll have a fully transparent layer with only the lettering showing. If you really can't figure out what's going on, you can always PM me to arrange to get your material to me so I can take a closer look at it.
	WIP - ISCS OLYMPIC WIP - MV-AC Heracles Last edited by Meph; 06-06-2008 at 10:29 AM.

06-06-2008, 10:12 AM	#144 (permalink)
Kadaeux Battlefleet Admiral Realname: Kitt Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 24 Posts: 1,912	Hmm, does it do it if you render it or only in the modelling view?
	Reality is like a kick in the balls, you see something you like and WHAM. FIRESTORM My Greeble Project Warhammer 40'000 team., \| Warhammer 40'000 Threads thread. My planet Tutorial

06-06-2008, 10:27 AM	#146 (permalink)
Meph SFM Obsessed Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leuven, Belgium Age: 31 Posts: 1,152	Hehe, anytime mate. That's why there are billions of photons carrying bits and bites flying though big, fat cables over the ocean's floors and landmasses. The internet is NOT only for pron! Another good tip is to include the lettering onto your base texture, then you can weather and 'dirty-up' all at once in one big psd file
	WIP - ISCS OLYMPIC WIP - MV-AC Heracles

06-07-2008, 08:02 AM	#150 (permalink)
Kadaeux Battlefleet Admiral Realname: Kitt Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 24 Posts: 1,912	Phoenixi (Pronounced= Fe,Nix,I) I like the logo myself.
	Reality is like a kick in the balls, you see something you like and WHAM. FIRESTORM My Greeble Project Warhammer 40'000 team., \| Warhammer 40'000 Threads thread. My planet Tutorial

06-06-2008, 09:28 AM	#142 (permalink)
star_creations SFM Guru Realname: Lee Jacob Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 32 Posts: 226	Thanks every...but I will need some help. Yep i said help. I just noticed the numbers are see-through...I tried to make a composite (layers)...but when i (just discovered) that when I layered the numbers on the wings...the numbers become see-through. So my need and help is this, how can I layer numbers on a object without making the numbers see-through?

06-06-2008, 10:12 AM	#145 (permalink)
star_creations SFM Guru Realname: Lee Jacob Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 32 Posts: 226	BINGO!....Great, thanks for the help...it worked...I knew in a way PNG was the answer, but I kept on using the Opacity...that is what was screwing me up... it is funny, but months ago. I knew how to layer like this, but then I Completely forgot...thanks again for reminding me bro...Great help... I can always count on my fellow modelers out there in cyberspace.

06-07-2008, 07:06 AM	#149 (permalink)
kborak SFM Guru Realname: Ryan Wolfe Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: my mind Age: 29 Posts: 526	ROFL Kadaeux. I like the pheonix, but what you think about a hollow part for the eye? and I really dont have a color scheme in mind The sqaudron name I was thinking of was screaming pheonix, but its not plural does it still work.

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