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[somacruz145]

That doesn't look bad for the first try I'm not good at organic stuff either so I don't know how you could make your model better. Anyway, the face looks pretty nice and if you make a "hole" for his mouth, it should be cool.

[Monkey Boy]

Yeah, likewise, wouldn't really know where to start on organics.
I think he has a certain menace and inteligence - I like the larger skull at the rear!
But in the side profile, I think the lips make him look a little comical....
...but I have no constuctive alternative.

[kborak]

ok a little more work on morphean man.

[Berkut]

pretty cool work on the dude, especially for the first try at organics. But doing that in max is a serious chore. You might wanna check out Mudbox and Z-Brush. Those programs make organic modelling very easy, and they're not too overpriced (Mudbox is like $300).

[spudmonkey]

It always helps to have a decent base mesh to bring into ZB or MB though...

How about posting some wireframes of the model as a lot of character modelling is based on getting decent edge loops defined so that the structure of the model reflects the flow of muscles to allow for better definition and deformation. It would also be wise to use a human proportion diagram as a reference to make sure that your proportions are realistic. You don't have to stick to them completely, but if the proportions are wrong then the model will look a lot worse

[kborak]

well thanks for the advice berkut and spud. I will put some wireframes up tonight after work. Im not quite sure what you mean by the edge loops though spud. But I will be more than happy to do the wires. Any help at this point is very appreciatted.

[spudmonkey]

Have a look at this image and hopefully it will be clearer:



Basically an edge loop is a line made up of edges that defines the contours of a shape. In the case of organic modelling it is normally a closed loop that defines the muscle shapes that are below the surface and hence allows correct deformation of the model when animating. The main thing is that it defines the shape of the body or body part to give it a realistic and believable shape. Your loops should also be used to maintain a quad-only mesh which will give you better results when subdividing

[kborak]

oh wow that is really helpful, on top of being something I never considered. I may need to go back and start this one over. Thanks a ton man!!!!!!!! I am realizing that there more to making a mesh than I had ever thought.

[star_creations]

You know, I have been doing 3D art for a long time...and I don't even know where to start when it comes to organic....you are doing a great job, millions times better then me, thatw the truth.

[kborak]

ok I started the morphean over. I was aiming for the loop edges this time. I realized I didnt have any on the first version. Some things have changed, others I am working on getting much closer to the original. One that I want closer to the orginal version is the nose. Must get that thing back to the original, or close to it. I have managed to get this one closer to the simian look that I am going after, with the oversized cheeks. I deffinitaly need to get the mouth area pulled out more. But fire away boys.