Gliese

[Monkey Boy]

Actually, scrap what I said about the British Vulcan bomber, as pictures of the belly hatch for crew entry in the B52 and B1 bombers are more readily available.

But they are just hatches, are you currently thinking simple hatch, or some form of docking collar, like most of the smaller fighters (rarely seen) seemed to have on their bellies in the Firefly TV series (see when they are nearly 'humped' by the alliance cruiser at the start of the pilot)?


Oh, and after looking at the home page a little closer....Happy Birthday!

[kborak]

TY on the happy bday monkey. And you nailed what I want on the hatch. The docking coller type deal on Serenity. know where any good ref pics of her or any other ships from the series are....wel I could just start making some I have the series and movie.

Im going to move the hatch to the rear of the attack craft and make it a crew hatch, maybe let it carry a few troops into battle if need be.

[star_creations]

these jets are looking great....very impressed, i guess my fighter is not that good, I get very little replies, oh well.

OH, forgot HAPPY B - DAY...and i am redoing the canopy, the other one just sucked...so my newer canopy will look allot better.

[kborak]

star I loved that canopy honest

[Monkey Boy]

Originally Posted by kborak

The docking coller type deal on Serenity. know where any good ref pics of her or any other ships from the series are....wel I could just start making some I have the series and movie.

Ah, no sorry, always seems to be serenity herself people focus on (i' love to find some good references to the alliance crusiers - not the ones from the movie, but the original ones in th series that look like flying city blocks, I thought they were great!)

I don't have access to my DVDs of firefly, but purely off memory, I don't think we ever get a real good look at the belly of one of those gunships.

We see them breifly docked upside down to the belly of the Dortmunster (spelling?) as they power up when serenity is detected stealing from the hulk in the start of the pilot.

I believe one is seen landing in the Ariel (hospital theft) episode, a couple also land in the garden in the Trash episode, and one pursues the serenity in the Message episode (with the friend pretending to be dead) but I don't think we ever get to see their docking collar.

Likewise the Raptors in BSG are supposed to hace a docking collar of some sorts on their belly - see the episode when there is a coup against Roslin, and a group of raptors with marines attach to the outer hull - but when ever a raptor flys over head, there does not seem to be any sign of a door in the raptor's floor, sorry not much help!

Cheers.

[kborak]

monkey your a well of knowledge it seems good call on the good shots and episodes.

Im having a dilema on the mig fighter, I dont know if I like what I have going. here is a look at another version. Any votes on which one is liked better?

[Monkey Boy]

TY for the compliment, but I am not an expert or artistic master, can only comment on what looks good to me.

I have to say, I prefer the old one: I think with the up-turned canards at the front, there is no need for vertical rudders at the back.
I also prefer the "patch-work" cockpit transperancies on the old one, even though the new one is almost certainly more practical, the old multi-faceted one has a charm to it; like the clear panels and 'brow' windows in a C130 Hercules transport plane.

In the new one, are my eyes decieving me, is that three sets of wings? Not real clear on my monitor. Or is it just a 'notch' midway down the main wing?

Looking at the pilot seated in the new version, not too sure you have scale enough to fit a docking hatch, would you perhaps consider a seat that lowers through the floor like the one fitted to the EDIin the movie 'Stealth'?

[Monkey Boy]

This is the cockpit transparency for a british Victor bomber, which is the look and feel of the cockpit that I first had when I first saw the old design,

It also has some vague similarities to the clear panels on the delta flyer too.

[Berkut]

the newer design looks like it has practically no visibility of any area except directly in front of the fighter, plus I think the old versions just looks better, somehow has a mig 1.42 feeling to it

Word of advice, stop using the meshsmooth modifier, or whatever equivalent of it in your software. Although it may seem like a big shortcut at first, as you keep working you'll find it is completely unusable for anything mechanical, and it doesn't quite look right.

[kborak]

Monkey the Idea about EDI I love it I almost forgot about that movie Ill see about that one.

Berkut I think your right about the older one looking more like a mig. But about using turbo smooth Im not sure how I would get that flow in the lines without it. you have any suggestions?