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PixelMagic · 04-10-2008, 12:06 AM

It's looking fantastic, but there is something about the back end of the nacelle that just feels off. And that is, on the original Enterprise, there were two intercoolers(?) on each tail end of the nacelle. You can see the more modern "fin" versions in the images below.

Of course, this is just a minor suggestion, so ignore me if you like it the way it is.

**harrisw** · 04-10-2008, 04:11 AM

The top picture doesn't look like the nacelle, it is too big. It appears to be a view from on top of the engineering hull between the nacelle pylons, the picture seems to show the bases of the pylons under construction before the pylons have been added.

MadKoiFish · 04-10-2008, 05:09 AM

It IS the nacel. the ship is THAT out of scale. Comparing that guy welding as well as the one on the bridge deck the ship is about 600meters. The guy near the bridge deck he near the red ? mark. The light is a distant stand not a hat lamp. So that puts what was once a 1.5 deck structure at 3 to 4 decks. And the saucer rim would be about 4 to 5 decks thick. The canon Enterprise length can only fit about 1.5 decks in the saucer rim.

NOW as for the intercoolers.
I havent decided if I will add that detail or not. I definetly have more work to come on the nacels themselfs. Such as additional plating on them and a mess of decals and a few parts.

Click for full size.
green bracket is pointing out a man standing there. Keep in mind because of how this scene pans there is distortion in the view.

**Dr-Timelord** · 04-10-2008, 03:12 PM

Wow...with those two pics put together, the new Enterprise looks big

Very very big

baxart · 04-10-2008, 05:36 PM

I'm really hoping that the trailer pics are just a tease...

**harrisw** · 04-10-2008, 06:06 PM

I hope so too, if the nacelles and primary hull are that far out of proportion we're talking about a ship that's almost twice the size as the original ship but the same overall shape. Definitely non-canon.

homerpalooza67 · 04-10-2008, 08:52 PM

probably just a distortion from the camera.

MadKoiFish · 04-10-2008, 09:05 PM

The distortion creates a taller looking ship. It doesnt affect scale though. (IE it shows you the top and bottom areas of the ship you normlay coulndt see at one time in a flat image) A larger ship would correct some of the issues on the past ship size. Cargobay saucer rim neck etc etc. I have to admit it is a bit more than I would have done in size increase. I would have just made it big enough to be 2.5 decks thick on the rim. Shrug.

nova1701dms · 04-10-2008, 10:15 PM

I'm not really too picky. The design in the teaser is an interesting one. I like Star Trek on whatever form in comes across. MadKoiFish, could we see more angles of the ship? It's a great design.

**Dr-Timelord** · 04-11-2008, 12:32 AM

I'm just looking forward to seeing a proper scaled sized version of the ship. Its meant to house over 400 crew members ( well depends on what TOS episode you watch). Its gonna be a big ship

Also notice its missing those four white circles from the front of the saucer section you see on the TOS design?

04-10-2008, 12:06 AM	#71 (permalink)
PixelMagic SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 329	It's looking fantastic, but there is something about the back end of the nacelle that just feels off. And that is, on the original Enterprise, there were two intercoolers(?) on each tail end of the nacelle. You can see the more modern "fin" versions in the images below. Of course, this is just a minor suggestion, so ignore me if you like it the way it is.
PixelMagic SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 329

04-10-2008, 05:09 AM	#73 (permalink)
MadKoiFish SFM Oracle Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Join Date: May 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 3,143	It IS the nacel. the ship is THAT out of scale. Comparing that guy welding as well as the one on the bridge deck the ship is about 600meters. The guy near the bridge deck he near the red ? mark. The light is a distant stand not a hat lamp. So that puts what was once a 1.5 deck structure at 3 to 4 decks. And the saucer rim would be about 4 to 5 decks thick. The canon Enterprise length can only fit about 1.5 decks in the saucer rim. NOW as for the intercoolers. I havent decided if I will add that detail or not. I definetly have more work to come on the nacels themselfs. Such as additional plating on them and a mess of decals and a few parts. Click for full size. green bracket is pointing out a man standing there. Keep in mind because of how this scene pans there is distortion in the view.
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04-10-2008, 03:12 PM	#74 (permalink)
Dr-Timelord Resident Time Lord Realname: M. Shaw Join Date: May 2006 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 1,750	Wow...with those two pics put together, the new Enterprise looks big Very very big
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04-10-2008, 05:36 PM	#75 (permalink)
baxart SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 228	I'm really hoping that the trailer pics are just a tease...
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04-10-2008, 08:52 PM	#77 (permalink)
homerpalooza67 SFM Oracle Realname: Jedman67 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,547	probably just a distortion from the camera.
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04-10-2008, 04:11 AM	#72 (permalink)
harrisw SFM Nugget Realname: Bill Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 60	The top picture doesn't look like the nacelle, it is too big. It appears to be a view from on top of the engineering hull between the nacelle pylons, the picture seems to show the bases of the pylons under construction before the pylons have been added.

04-10-2008, 06:06 PM	#76 (permalink)
harrisw SFM Nugget Realname: Bill Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 60	I hope so too, if the nacelles and primary hull are that far out of proportion we're talking about a ship that's almost twice the size as the original ship but the same overall shape. Definitely non-canon.

04-10-2008, 09:05 PM	#78 (permalink)
MadKoiFish SFM Oracle Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Join Date: May 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 3,143	The distortion creates a taller looking ship. It doesnt affect scale though. (IE it shows you the top and bottom areas of the ship you normlay coulndt see at one time in a flat image) A larger ship would correct some of the issues on the past ship size. Cargobay saucer rim neck etc etc. I have to admit it is a bit more than I would have done in size increase. I would have just made it big enough to be 2.5 decks thick on the rim. Shrug.
	-= Madfishway Tuts - My-DA =-

04-10-2008, 10:15 PM	#79 (permalink)
nova1701dms SFM Guru Realname: Duane Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 219	I'm not really too picky. The design in the teaser is an interesting one. I like Star Trek on whatever form in comes across. MadKoiFish, could we see more angles of the ship? It's a great design.

04-11-2008, 12:32 AM	#80 (permalink)
Dr-Timelord Resident Time Lord Realname: M. Shaw Join Date: May 2006 Location: Scotland Age: 24 Posts: 1,750	I'm just looking forward to seeing a proper scaled sized version of the ship. Its meant to house over 400 crew members ( well depends on what TOS episode you watch). Its gonna be a big ship Also notice its missing those four white circles from the front of the saucer section you see on the TOS design?
	Star Trek: Original Series - Season Four (animated)

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