Mars Class Imperial Battlecruiser WIP (Warhammer 40'000: 56k Unfreindly Eventually ;)

[docprice]

yea In the 40k Universe there is alot of Latin influence in there names. Sovereign is more of a Star Wars Empire thing. so you got the Empire feel going just the wrong universe.

But Hey break the mold.

[Kadaeux]

Oh the name fits alright, along with Dominion (A Tyrant Class) Invincible (A Gothic Class) Retribution (A Lunar Class) Vigilant and Guardian (Both Dauntless Classes) Fortitude (A Dictator Class) Triumph (Apocalypse Class) Kingmaker (Exorcist Class Grand Cruiser) Thunderchild (Armageddon Class) Hunter (Space Marine Strike Cruiser)

So there

[Kadaeux]

Update: Unfortunately this one literally jumped the Poly-count by at least fifty thousand polys. Though I could be wrong. (I didn't check the polycount after adding all the windows.

[gthompsn]

ver nice detail work

[Meph]

Indeed, good job!

[Ice-Dragon]

Great detailing work

[Armondikov]

Surely to be proper 40K it should be stencilled onto a gaint banner surrounded by flags of allthe guard regiments and marine chapters associated with the ship over the years. I mean, balls to the concept of it flying through a vacuum, this is all about style!

oooh... skulls. Sweet.

[silent_lord]

hiya just found this and i am amazed, looks awesome! those macro cannons look sweet.

erm.. just a little critisim/advice opinion?! hehe

heavy bolters are way too small for a capitla ship, think bigger, think titan scale weapons. BFG strike craft like you say are the size or bigger than jumbo jets!

official cruiser size confirmed in the BFG novels is 3.5km with over 13,000 crew(unknow weather this includes the servitors)

also fromt he BFG rulebook; weapons batteries; each battery consists of rank upon rank of weapons; plasma projectors, laser cannons, missiles launchers, rail guns, fusion beamers and graviton pulsars.
also andy chambers (they guy that basically created BFG) also states that lance turrets are massive triple, quad barrelled weapons that combine all thier beams into one devastating beam, his words for visuals was the beam weapons from B5 advanced races.


op.s, in the BFG novels theres a refence that cruisers/capital ships have tens of thousands of turrets ranging between the long, medium and short/point. also in there 10k is considered point blank range, so im guessing BFG weapons ranges are waht? million kilometres? more?



p.p.s. hehe dont forget the turrets on the wings

[Kadaeux]

Originally Posted by silent_lord

hiya just found this and i am amazed, looks awesome! those macro cannons look sweet.

Thanks matey.

Originally Posted by silent_lord

erm.. just a little critisim/advice opinion?! hehe

Oh yes, nevermind the Strousine Neural Scourge

Originally Posted by silent_lord

heavy bolters are way too small for a capitla ship, think bigger, think titan scale weapons. BFG strike craft like you say are the size or bigger than jumbo jets!

That is why if you actually measure the "heavy bolters" which are modified for space warfare they're barrel widths are actually closer to the Vulcan Mega-bolters.

Originally Posted by silent_lord

official cruiser size confirmed in the BFG novels is 3.5km with over 13,000 crew(unknow weather this includes the servitors)

Yes, a number that once stood at 20 Kilometres for a Lunar class cruiser in an older book and now stands at 3 kilometres undisputed due to the Dan Abnett novels. (However Frigates have somehow reached 2 Kilometres long from 1.5)

Originally Posted by silent_lord

also fromt he BFG rulebook; weapons batteries; each battery consists of rank upon rank of weapons; plasma projectors, laser cannons, missiles launchers, rail guns, fusion beamers and graviton pulsars.
also andy chambers (they guy that basically created BFG) also states that lance turrets are massive triple, quad barrelled weapons that combine all thier beams into one devastating beam, his words for visuals was the beam weapons from B5 advanced races.

Yes i'm familiar with all that. However most of the machinery and projectors are inside the weapons. The "two" barrels are merely focusses for the beams. However you must also consider that the statement regarding the types of weapons in a battery is also supposed to cover all races.

Originally Posted by silent_lord

op.s, in the BFG novels theres a refence that cruisers/capital ships have tens of thousands of turrets ranging between the long, medium and short/point. also in there 10k is considered point blank range, so im guessing BFG weapons ranges are waht? million kilometres? more?

1: Yes SOME have tens of thousands of turrets, they also don't have a total poly-limit. And many of those turrets DO contain smaller weapons like Lascannons.
2: It has been worked out that weapon ranges average around half a million to 400'000 odd kilometres with some exceptions.

Originally Posted by silent_lord

p.p.s. hehe dont forget the turrets on the wings

Forget? They're already there! (I've just gone with a more realistic scale rather than the model itself while is .... exaggerated.... to cover more detail.



Trust me matey, i'm quite likely a much greater BFG fanatic than you. I have witness dozens to hundreds of scaling changes for 40k starships (including the original Star Fleet ships which if I recall correctly were scaled to HUNDREDS of kilometres.)

[silent_lord]

regarding the BFG book, aye thats the problem isnt it, and as andy chambers hasnt confirmed it many/most will just use it.


ship sizes... lol yeah i remember that one, imperial capital where stupidly large, and getting bigger alll the time if i remember right. yeah BFG ship sizes change alot, the cobra destroyer use to be the size of a star wars stardestroyer (1.6km) that has now dropped to about 800-900m wheres as the frigate is pushing 2km almost as big as the light cruiser.

regarding wings, sorry i can only view half the posted pics, i get a ripped picture symbol.


with regards to the heavy bolters, the only problem i had was their too small, and if you scale them up thier not heavy bolters are they? the bolter scaled up from a .75 cal weapon is the 1.0 cal heavy bolter. all i was mrely suggesting was in fact having them as the vulcan mega-bolters, thats why i was suggesting thinking bigger.


i wont argue about the greater fan as those are never ending arguments when started, lol i have seen a fair number of those. all i will say is im glad someone has decided to make Imperial capital ship hehe.... i have actually decided to learn myself how to do prior to finding this thread.

so great job kadaeux and im looking forward the BFG mod, have been following it since heretic announced it and first started the BFG forum.