Legacy Class Rebuild 2.0

[Lonewriter]

love the impulse engines.

[ghanima]

uhm... I totally missed this thread. My bad!

Great stuff here! Typically, im not the biggest fan to the TNG movie ships [the Sovereign is about the only one i like]. But this one... staying true to form and not over hyped with 10,000 quatum torp launchers and red stripes all over the place, i can dig!

i'm looking forward to more!

[Jack Skieczius]

thanks ghanima.

been working on here a bit today after a 5 day hiatus. had one hell of a fun weekend.

anyway, so while i was working on here. i got a funny idea. i was thinking, could she land on a planet? well, prolly not, no legs like voyager, and not really practical to add em ither. then i was like, well ok atmo flgiht, she can prolly hovor, but thats no fun.

so the big idea was "water landing". what if she could land and flaot on her warp bubble or shield? or maybe she is water proof anyway. to bad the body is not really sea worthy. so floating on the warp bubble seems like a cool idea. Galen brought up that the Holo-ship in insurrection was underwater or in it, not sure.

anyway, so that was my crazy idea. and i am wondering what you guys all think of trek ships being able to land in water. would seem practical, since most of them couldn't land on the ground.

i can possibly make an image of that to. .maybe a little vacation spot off the cost of Hawaii, hehe.

[slimdim]

Originally Posted by Jack Skieczius

thanks ghanima.
so the big idea was "water landing". what if she could land and flaot on her warp bubble or shield?
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It would have to be the shield as bad things are supposed to happen if you have an active warp field within an atmosphere. That's why voyager has the mobile nacelles, when they come in for a landing they drop them to the horizontal position and the warp field collapses as the nacelles lose their line of sight to each other.

But other than that it would be cool to see.

[Lonewriter]

Interesting point, I am currently reading Star Trek Vanguard: Reap The Whirlwind and one of the starships lands on water but it is a small ship. You might be able to land the saucer section on water but I don't know about the whole ship.

[Jack Skieczius]

well yeah. the ship doesn't have a floatable hull, obviously, but if it could use a buffer, like the shield system or deflector to deflect the water underneath and keep it afloat. i can imagine the ship landing in the water and it submerging up to the bottom of the saucer. maybe up to the side hatches.

the ships hull alone wont keep it afloat. so it must really be something like a shield or something doing it. hence why i thought of the warp bubble. since it surrounds the ship pretty uniformly in a bubble shape, which would be perfect to float on.

now how it would looks is one of two. either the water you land on gets held back by the bubble or it gose up to the hull anyway.

either way, maybe it was just a crazy idea.

i am working on the legacy today. so expect some updates in a day or two.

[slimdim]

Hang on it's a space ship, shouldn't it be airtight, and thus water tight? In which case why can't it float at least for a time. It might not be good for the ship but it should be possible. If anyone has the measurements then you could work out if it can displace enough water to float but I would have thought it could.

[Jack Skieczius]

yeah, but the thing is, you land that in water. it will tip. get it? the engineering hull be the main part to make it buoyant. but the saucer would tip it forward, making it tip and just not right, hence why we need a uniform bubble force field under the ship to make the buoyancy equal all over the ship. in a sense.
me as a physical person, likes to think out the physics of things. makes me feel good.

[Lonewriter]

This might help Warp bubble - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

[Martocticvs]

A ship designed to operate in negative relative pressure of 1 atmosphere (ie space) is unlikely to perform particularly well in positive pressure of significantly more than that without major structural reinforcement...