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dfox2 · 07-10-2008, 10:31 PM

What did you render this in?

**Meph** · 07-11-2008, 09:36 AM

Thanks for the comments guys,

Chrono has very good points concering the CIWS. Currend day vessels indeed have relatively few defences becquse the threat has been very low and most navies work with fleet tactics, where multiple ships create overlapping defence umbrella's. The russian always had good tactics in their closets to counter this, and that's saturation, not fireing 1-3 missiles, but using wings of attack craft to launch a few dozen missiles at US ships. This would swamp their defences and ensure hits of at least a few missiles.

With this in mind, since Mars is the 'agressor' in my backstory, breaking free towards independence, they expect to be fighting a superior force and thus they produce their ships with ample defences to ensure survival to fight another day.

@dfox2: I'm rendering in max 9 64-bit with Vray 1.53

chrono · 07-11-2008, 04:58 PM

And Meph we have to remember that we can't completely compare today's wet navy with advanced weaponry that has even longer range and is far more accurate.

Defense umbrella's and mass saturations will very much change in the face of that. CIWS will have to be significantly more lethal than more systems because of the extra hardening that fighters and such small units will have to keep the unit protected against micro-meteorites, radiation, etc.

Also there is the extra dimension of combat that almost removes or trades stealth vessels like submarines for regular combat units.

*waits for the next update*

**Meph** · 07-12-2008, 09:35 AM

Indeed, true, true. I think we can easilly add a few zeroes to the combat ranges in space. And with no horizon or thermal layers to hide behind, ships will be spotted from quite a long way away.
Oh, a nice combat tactic just came to me, combat jumps! Jumping back into realspace veruy close to the target, hoping to have the advantage of surprise and first stike. :P

On the CIWS, I'm hoping to have that sucker unwrapped and mapped by the end of this afternoon. *moans & groans* Here we go, eyes to infinite, mind to zero... unwrapping time!

**Lord Ravensburg** · 07-12-2008, 01:12 PM

Like the placements. know lets see some updates...

**Meph** · 07-12-2008, 06:38 PM

And here they are

Some textures and uvw unwraps need some tweaking. Especially the main gun housing gave me a headache to unwrap...
Oh, and I still need to do the base of the gun too.

**Freak** · 07-12-2008, 07:31 PM

Love the textuer work mate, it really brought this to life.

**Lord Ravensburg** · 07-12-2008, 07:52 PM

nice. I'll take about a hundred...

Ice-Dragon · 07-12-2008, 07:52 PM

Those guns are coming along nicely mate

Elowan · 07-13-2008, 02:29 PM

LOve the guns!

07-11-2008, 09:36 AM	#122 (permalink)
Meph Cat-Herder Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leuven, Belgium Age: 31 Posts: 1,444	Thanks for the comments guys, Chrono has very good points concering the CIWS. Currend day vessels indeed have relatively few defences becquse the threat has been very low and most navies work with fleet tactics, where multiple ships create overlapping defence umbrella's. The russian always had good tactics in their closets to counter this, and that's saturation, not fireing 1-3 missiles, but using wings of attack craft to launch a few dozen missiles at US ships. This would swamp their defences and ensure hits of at least a few missiles. With this in mind, since Mars is the 'agressor' in my backstory, breaking free towards independence, they expect to be fighting a superior force and thus they produce their ships with ample defences to ensure survival to fight another day. @dfox2: I'm rendering in max 9 64-bit with Vray 1.53
	WIP - ISCS OLYMPIC WIP - MV-AC Heracles The Martian Idea "An excess of reason is a form of madness" - Kim Stanley Robinson

07-11-2008, 04:58 PM	#123 (permalink)
chrono SFM Obsessed Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,321	And Meph we have to remember that we can't completely compare today's wet navy with advanced weaponry that has even longer range and is far more accurate. Defense umbrella's and mass saturations will very much change in the face of that. CIWS will have to be significantly more lethal than more systems because of the extra hardening that fighters and such small units will have to keep the unit protected against micro-meteorites, radiation, etc. Also there is the extra dimension of combat that almost removes or trades stealth vessels like submarines for regular combat units. waits for the next update
	Sig's too long... NanoGator

07-12-2008, 09:35 AM	#124 (permalink)
Meph Cat-Herder Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leuven, Belgium Age: 31 Posts: 1,444	Indeed, true, true. I think we can easilly add a few zeroes to the combat ranges in space. And with no horizon or thermal layers to hide behind, ships will be spotted from quite a long way away. Oh, a nice combat tactic just came to me, combat jumps! Jumping back into realspace veruy close to the target, hoping to have the advantage of surprise and first stike. :P On the CIWS, I'm hoping to have that sucker unwrapped and mapped by the end of this afternoon. moans & groans Here we go, eyes to infinite, mind to zero... unwrapping time!
	WIP - ISCS OLYMPIC WIP - MV-AC Heracles The Martian Idea "An excess of reason is a form of madness" - Kim Stanley Robinson

07-12-2008, 01:12 PM	#125 (permalink)
Lord Ravensburg Completely lost... Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Realname: Lee Join Date: May 2006 Location: Find the A$$ end of nowhere and i'm just north of it... Age: 28 Posts: 3,326	Like the placements. know lets see some updates...
	Keep smiling , It makes people wonder what your up to.. Some Cool Sites: 3D Scifi \| Framevoid \| Scifi'ers Anonymous \| Ejected Core \|Wolf Den Productions WIP: Assault Frigate

07-12-2008, 07:31 PM	#127 (permalink)
Freak Project Lead on SFM Film Realname: Dean Join Date: May 2006 Location: London, UK Age: 28 Posts: 8,033 Blog Entries: 7	Love the textuer work mate, it really brought this to life.
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07-10-2008, 10:31 PM	#121 (permalink)
dfox2 SFM Nugget Realname: Donald Fox Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3	What did you render this in?

07-12-2008, 07:52 PM	#128 (permalink)
Lord Ravensburg Completely lost... Total Awards: 1 (more» ...) Realname: Lee Join Date: May 2006 Location: Find the A$$ end of nowhere and i'm just north of it... Age: 28 Posts: 3,326	nice. I'll take about a hundred...
	Keep smiling , It makes people wonder what your up to.. Some Cool Sites: 3D Scifi \| Framevoid \| Scifi'ers Anonymous \| Ejected Core \|Wolf Den Productions WIP: Assault Frigate

07-12-2008, 07:52 PM	#129 (permalink)
Ice-Dragon SFM Guru Realname: Rob Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: East Sussex, England Age: 26 Posts: 966	Those guns are coming along nicely mate
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07-13-2008, 02:29 PM	#130 (permalink)
Elowan SFM Obsessed Join Date: May 2006 Location: az Posts: 1,065	LOve the guns!

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