Tormentor Class

[ST-One]

Originally Posted by Mach Crit

Not that this qualifies as anything definitive, but I remember a mission in X-Wing (the LucasArts game) where you had to blow those up to bring down the shields on an ISD once...

... and the vicious cycle continues...

[fractalsponge]

^Yeah, let's NOT.

Design comment: the attachments for the sensor...the dome thingies look a little fragile, like scaffolding. Might want to thicken it up a bit. Just a thought.

[Mach Crit]

Originally Posted by ST-One

... and the vicious cycle continues...

Sorry, vicious cycle of what? I am not trying to start anything, I am just pointing to anecdotal evidence. Sorta like the fighter that crashed into one of those things in ROTJ which let the A-Wing crash into the bridge of the executor which brought it down (well, out of control, anyhow...).

However, I agree that they look like sensor domes. I always thought it was silly to have 2 shield generators in one location rather than spread out across the ship.

Forgive me if I have crossed a boundary, started a flame war, or inadvertantly caused Jedilaw to inexplicably disappear again for months

[Jedilaw]

Less reasonable people have been known to have extensive fights on the topic, that's true, but everyone here seems to be level-headed. I view it the same way I view the "Imperator vs. Imperial" debate regarding the ISD Mk II: inconsequential to all but the most tragically obsessed.

[ST-One]

Originally Posted by Mach Crit

Sorry, vicious cycle of what? I am not trying to start anything, I am just pointing to anecdotal evidence. Sorta like the fighter that crashed into one of those things in ROTJ which let the A-Wing crash into the bridge of the executor which brought it down (well, out of control, anyhow...).

However, I agree that they look like sensor domes. I always thought it was silly to have 2 shield generators in one location rather than spread out across the ship.

Forgive me if I have crossed a boundary, started a flame war, or inadvertantly caused Jedilaw to inexplicably disappear again for months

Relaxe, it was a joke
I just find this 'debate' that Star Wars fans seem to have about these sensor domes/shield generators quite funny

[Mach Crit]

Well, I don't keep any technical manuals around, I don't have a tricorder or a set of ears, and I don't live in my mom's basement (I live in my own basement). I just like watching and drawing and reading sci-fi. Funny how people can't seem to break out of their universe to join reality now and again. One of my worst personal mistakes was walking past a rabid "Babylon 5 vs "Star Trek" debate and tossing out a random comment about how cool the Starfury was. I ended up with a raving techno nrrrd snapping at my heels for half an hour through the mall (note to self: never comment to ANYONE in a RPG gaming store).

[Jedilaw]

Interestingly enough, there's a pretty good chance that if you walked into a baseball card shop and started talking about which historical team or player was the greatest, you could start an almost identical fight. We SF geeks are seen as being unique in our level of obsession, but the truth is there are geeks for just about any topic: history, baseball stats, football stats, politics, etc. No one talks about sports geeks, though, because it's supposedly "normal" and "manly" to give a damn who had the highest ERA in the NL in 1976.

[Severus]

Gentlemen, you are all correct. On the Tormentor Class, those thingamabobs (and that's a KDY industry term, I'm not being fresh) are in fact combo sensor domes AND shield generators. And for those interested, on the Imperial/Imperator class, they are in fact insulated water towers that service the officers head on the main bridge. I can prove that, because my cousin's wife's ex-brother-in-law used to go running with a guy who was the roommate of Darth Vader's 3rd officer, a guy named Larry (but everyone called him lil'Larry (or sometimes WeeMac, because his last name was MacDonald or MacReynolds or something like that, I'm not sure)) and his job on the Devastator was to check the water pressure, in those very domes, several times during his shift to ensure an adequate flush (apparently senior officers crap big). Now I didn't talk to him personally, but he's practically family (although admittedly I'm not really that close to that side) and if he says that's what they are, then that's the gospel truth and I won't hear another word on the subject.

Meanwhile back at ranch... I seem to be having some trouble containing the lights from the landing bay. For some reason the lights from inside the bay are glowing through the solid walls of the surrounding hull and reflecting off the panels on the outside of the hull. I haven't actually tried it yet, but I'm thinking I can just exclude those parts from receiving light from those particular lights and that should fix it, but does anyone know why this is happening? I thought maybe my lights got buried in the hull but they're well away from the sides.

And what's all this talk about weak supports? You trying to undermine morale? Why don't you just point out that the armor plating is paper thin near the main reactor? Who's side are you on? And what kind of name is fractalsponge anyway, French? Leave it to the French... I'll look into it...

[docprice]

1976 Earned Run Average Leaders
Top 25 in the American League

Name Earned Run Average Team Rank
Mark Fidrych 2.34 (2.3369) Detroit Tigers 1
Vida Blue 2.35(2.3531) Oakland Athletics 2
Frank Tanana 2.43 (2.4347) California Angels 3
Mike Torrez 2.50(2.5006) Oakland Athletics 4
Jim Palmer 2.51 (2.5143) Baltimore Orioles 5
Wayne Garland 2.67 (2.6729) Baltimore Orioles 6
Paul Hartzell 2.77 (2.7651) California Angels 7
Bill Travers 2.81 (2.8125) Milwaukee Brewers 8
Bert Blyleven 2.87 (2.8723) Minnesota Twins 9
Gary Ross 3.00 (3.0000) California Angels 10
Bill Campbell 3.01 (3.0060) Minnesota Twins 11
Ed Figueroa 3.02 (3.0156) New York Yankees 12
Al Fitzmorris 3.06 (3.0635) Kansas City Royals 13
Luis Tiant 3.06 (3.0645) Boston Red Sox 14
Reggie Cleveland 3.07 (3.0706) Boston Red Sox 15
Jim Umbarger 3.15 (3.1470) Texas Rangers 16
Dock Ellis 3.19(3.1890) New York Yankees 17
Jim Bibby 3.20 (3.1959) Cleveland Indians 18
Gaylord Perry 3.24 (3.2357) Texas Rangers 19
Nelson Briles 3.26 (3.2571) Texas Rangers 20
Fergie Jenkins 3.27 (3.2727) Boston Red Sox 21
Ken Brett 3.28 (3.2808) New York Yankees 22
Jerry Augustine 3.30 (3.3029) Milwaukee Brewers 23
Nolan Ryan 3.36 (3.3552) California Angels 24
Dave Goltz 3.36 (3.3570) Minnesota Twins 25

[Mach Crit]

AHA!!! now we know the secret!!! Blow up the main water towers, which causes flooding to the bridge officers' toilets. These happen to be located directly above the main shield generators AND the sensor electronics. Everything shorts out, you can't "see", and shortly afterwards you die from shame as shattered plumbing crushes you against the starboard bulkheads!!

On the glow through the walls: lower wattage on the hangar light bulbs? (I'd suggest 65 watts to establish a mood). However, is it possible you broke up a polygon in there somewhere? Meaning the polys at the point of light leakage are not completely connected?

Note of trivia: Supposedly during the battle over the centauri moon, Lucasarts put a tennis shoe somewhere in the melee that erupted when the rebel fleet came out of jump. They did this to prove you wouldn't notice a giant NIKE running shoe, much less whether the shield generators were correct or not, so there.

WOOOT!! That post somehow translated me into guru. My geekhood has thus been established.