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mmrajotte · 07-07-2008, 01:57 PM

Ignoring moronic comments....

I don't know what to do with the phasers. What do you recommend? normal phaser arrays look funny on this ship.

Aresius · 07-07-2008, 06:06 PM

Phasers look funny?

Hm. Several small arrays of... hm, let's say 50ft length with distances of about 100ft between?
This way they can shoot by far faster and don't look too arkward.

BorgMan · 07-07-2008, 06:21 PM

The blast they would generate is a bit lower than a single big one, though, and as this ship is big I guess it's phaserblast should be big too...

mmrajotte · 07-07-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BorgMan

The blast they would generate is a bit lower than a single big one, though, and as this ship is big I guess it's phaserblast should be big too...

I was thinking at least 4 large arrays... two on top and two on bottom.

japme · 07-07-2008, 07:01 PM

mmrajotte.

You should have a few big arrays, between 4 and 8, for handling say a breen cruiser or a borg cube, but... As your ship is so big, and if I remember correctly, it functions as a carrier/battleship, then you should have many smaller emitters. Each of the small emmitters would be individually targetable, or they could be slaved into groups, with each one being set to a different frequency randomizer, resulting in some devestating firepower, that could be used against any and all opponents, without introducing any superweapons.

I am using the same basic idea with my Scabbard Class Carrier, which is WIP'd and up for download here on SFM.

Marian87 · 07-07-2008, 11:46 PM

The ideas and details behind this are good, but honestly the hull in shape and scale is in dire need of an overhaul.I'm not suggesting major structural modifications but you must admit that the shape lacks refinement. I know maybe you don't have the knowledge to make an organic shape or something similar but the ship only needs moderate adjustments to become more realistic.
I like it overall but for me it's not very beliveable..yet.Bottom line the ship is too thin and too edgy.
Maybe if you experiment with a few plugins you can improve your ship or at least your knowledge:
SketchUp Community Forums • View topic - [Plugin] Round Edge - v1.0 (by Bezier)
Good luck and have fun.

blackbird17 · 07-07-2008, 11:56 PM

Nice updates!!!

mmrajotte · 07-08-2008, 12:14 AM

Thanks for the advice but I'm sticking with the sharp edges for now. I think it kinda speaks to the design of the ship and what it's for. This ship isn't designed with grace in mind.

Aresius · 07-08-2008, 09:20 AM

well, those smoother edges do also add a bit more realism to it, not only grace.
But I think, that wcan also be done afterwards.

Basically, I second the idea of Japme. The scabbard-class has this in a very nice way (btw, japme, what about an ortho of that finished beasty?).

BorgMan · 07-08-2008, 10:05 AM

As Marian said mmrajotte, you can always download the plugin, if only to expand your knowledge of SU. It might come in handy with future projects...

07-07-2008, 01:57 PM	#71 (permalink)
mmrajotte SFM Nugget Realname: Matthew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 26 Posts: 139	Ignoring moronic comments.... I don't know what to do with the phasers. What do you recommend? normal phaser arrays look funny on this ship.
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07-07-2008, 06:06 PM	#72 (permalink)
Aresius SFM Oracle Realname: Alexander Weber Join Date: May 2006 Location: Schatthausen, Germany Age: 22 Posts: 5,653	Phasers look funny? Hm. Several small arrays of... hm, let's say 50ft length with distances of about 100ft between? This way they can shoot by far faster and don't look too arkward.
	See the Shadows of Darkness, Hear the Scream of Cruelty... That's why I've became a Warrior of Heart, Defend the one you like, Guard the one you love...

07-07-2008, 06:21 PM	#73 (permalink)
BorgMan SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 722	The blast they would generate is a bit lower than a single big one, though, and as this ship is big I guess it's phaserblast should be big too...
BorgMan SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 722	Resident SketchUp nut: Carlg's Pre-ENT Daedalus \| Hayden Class Scout \| Corsair Corvette \| SketchUp Tips & Tricks

07-07-2008, 11:46 PM	#76 (permalink)
Marian87 SFM Guru Realname: Marian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Romania Age: 21 Posts: 235	The ideas and details behind this are good, but honestly the hull in shape and scale is in dire need of an overhaul.I'm not suggesting major structural modifications but you must admit that the shape lacks refinement. I know maybe you don't have the knowledge to make an organic shape or something similar but the ship only needs moderate adjustments to become more realistic. I like it overall but for me it's not very beliveable..yet.Bottom line the ship is too thin and too edgy. Maybe if you experiment with a few plugins you can improve your ship or at least your knowledge: SketchUp Community Forums • View topic - [Plugin] Round Edge - v1.0 (by Bezier) Good luck and have fun.
	"For I dipt in to the future, far as human eye could see; Saw the vision of the world, and all the wonder that would be..." - Alfred Tennyson (U.S.S. Voyager dedication plaque)

07-08-2008, 12:14 AM	#78 (permalink)
mmrajotte SFM Nugget Realname: Matthew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 26 Posts: 139	Thanks for the advice but I'm sticking with the sharp edges for now. I think it kinda speaks to the design of the ship and what it's for. This ship isn't designed with grace in mind.
	Fighting authority since 1982

07-07-2008, 07:01 PM	#75 (permalink)
japme SFM Guru Realname: matthew l n Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 495	mmrajotte. You should have a few big arrays, between 4 and 8, for handling say a breen cruiser or a borg cube, but... As your ship is so big, and if I remember correctly, it functions as a carrier/battleship, then you should have many smaller emitters. Each of the small emmitters would be individually targetable, or they could be slaved into groups, with each one being set to a different frequency randomizer, resulting in some devestating firepower, that could be used against any and all opponents, without introducing any superweapons. I am using the same basic idea with my Scabbard Class Carrier, which is WIP'd and up for download here on SFM.

07-07-2008, 11:56 PM	#77 (permalink)
blackbird17 SFM Guru Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 34 Posts: 715	Nice updates!!!

07-08-2008, 09:20 AM	#79 (permalink)
Aresius SFM Oracle Realname: Alexander Weber Join Date: May 2006 Location: Schatthausen, Germany Age: 22 Posts: 5,653	well, those smoother edges do also add a bit more realism to it, not only grace. But I think, that wcan also be done afterwards. Basically, I second the idea of Japme. The scabbard-class has this in a very nice way (btw, japme, what about an ortho of that finished beasty?).
	See the Shadows of Darkness, Hear the Scream of Cruelty... That's why I've became a Warrior of Heart, Defend the one you like, Guard the one you love...

07-08-2008, 10:05 AM	#80 (permalink)
BorgMan SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 722	As Marian said mmrajotte, you can always download the plugin, if only to expand your knowledge of SU. It might come in handy with future projects...
BorgMan SFM Guru Join Date: May 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 722	Resident SketchUp nut: Carlg's Pre-ENT Daedalus \| Hayden Class Scout \| Corsair Corvette \| SketchUp Tips & Tricks

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