USS Grandeur - Final Version

[lennier1]

Nice progress on the Grandeur. That half dozen of revisions really paid off.
This ready room is a revised version of one of my favorites out of Sean´s impressive list of projects. The original is used in one of the headers over at StarTrek-Online.Net.

[Vektor]

Originally Posted by theCommander

What I though SeanR was going to do was use the Ent-E BR with some tweeks... but I don't know if that was what he added to the mesh he sent Jay or not. Still, I thought that the whole module was going to be done and added (low res) to your model... am I right?

Well, it would be nice to have a low-poly interior visible behind those windows on the back of the bridge module, but the Ent-E BR would be entirely the wrong size and shape. It's been at least a year and a half since I last used an Ent-E style bridge module on this ship, though it wasn't until just a couple of months ago that I finally detailed out the current version. I hope that didn't throw too big a wrench into the works, but I have this thing about creating my own unique designs rather than just duplicating what somebody else has already done.

If SeanR or NightShadow are willing to do a custom briefing room for this design, that would be awesome, or I might just do it myself. Part of my actual job involves architectural renderings of various kinds of interior spaces; I just haven't ever really applied it to a starship interior before.

[Free-Lance]

I like it!

[seanr]

Originally Posted by theCommander

Well, that's what we want, Jason... someone with vision... which Nightshadow is a wonderful visionary!! :-) What I though SeanR was going to do was use the Ent-E BR with some tweeks...

Honestly, Vektor's mesh is worth of far more than a retooled Ent-E bridge. I hope you'll consider doing something a little more creative with this. I can design something, but I don't know if I'll have time to actually build it.

[CaptainRoop]

I think Sean meant to say retooled Briefing Room (BR) Nightshadow is doing wonders with the Bridge that Sean started.
Thanks guys

[Vektor]

And the bridge itself has no windows so it won't be visible on the ship model. As for the BR, I have some definite ideas of what I'd like that to look like.

[NightShadow]

No, the Briefing Room was not built as part of the overall bridge set that SeanR did. But I've got the schematics for it. That said, I completely agree both with Vektor and Sean- this ship deserves something better than a redress of the Sovvy briefing room. Doing something similar to what Vektor suggested is certainly feasable, but I need you guys to determine which should get the higher priority: the bridge or the briefing room?

Ideally, you want the bridge interior to match the shape of the bridge module that Vektor designed. Right now, in all honesty, it doesn't- not even closely. That's a problem, IMHO.

[CaptainRoop]

Based on what Nightshadow just said does that mean a new bridge is going to have to be built ? It may have been a slight redress of the sovey but I was really getting into it. I do understand if we want to make the bridge totally unquie as Grandeur is becoming, and make it fit as the talk is now, I guess something must be done, but I know NightShadow put alot of work into it when he had the time, I am happy with it.

I guess it comes down to how bad all of us would like to see the bridge sitting inside the ship. As far as windows I can not recall to many starships that had windows on the bridge, if any. So as far as seeing that from the outside it may not happen regradless. Unless you do some close up top views from the outside looking down with the Dome off.

As far as the Briefing Room goes we only had that one picture that was a redress. and of course we had a few pictures left of the old Briefing Room from the orignal Grandeur that Robert "DrBob" Crosswell did.

Just throwing my 2cents worth out, whatever you guys want to do or feel needs to be done go for it.

[NightShadow]

Well, here's the thing: on Deck 01, there ARE windows. Windows for the captain's ready room, the XO's office (if there is one) and the briefing room. And the way that the bridge is laid out right now doesn't even come close to matching the one created by Vektor (which, IMHO, is a good thing- Vektor's module seems much nicer to me).

One of two things can be done to address this issue:

1) Tweak the layout of the current bridge interior so that the Ready Room, conference room and XO's office will match what Vektor has done. This is doable. Not exactly easy, but doable.

2) As Sean suggested, this ship deserves more than just a tweaked/modified Sovvy bridge set. I think it more fitting that a whole new bridge be designed for this. Either Sean can mock up the design in 2D if he so wishes or someone else can. And I'm fairly confident that I can build something entirely new and unique according to the potentially new design specs.

As some of you may or may not know, I've been flexing my 3D modelling muscles lately- two starships AND a full starbase done in just 2 months' time. At this point I sincerely wouldn't mind sinking my teeth into a decent interior bridge set. After all, it's been a good long while since I've done one, y'know? I actually kinda miss it.

So take that all with the pinch of salt with which it was delivered- ultimately, it's your ship and your decision. But consider this: if 3 of your primary designers (and I'm including Sean in this since he DID design the bridge and built about 90% of it already) are all saying the same thing independently, in their own ways and for their own reasons, it's a good bet that it's WORTH considering.

[NightShadow]

I don't mean to thread-jack, Vektor, but I figured this would be as good a place as any to give everyone a little clearer idea of what we're talking about.

Attached are some recent WIP pics that I did of the bridge and the ready room, to illustrate a few things: namely, it looks more like the Sovvy bridge than anything else and I think we'd all kinda like to work away from that- it's already been done, y'know? Why re-invent the wheel spoke-for-spoke when we can create something completely different?

If this is what you want to stick with and if Sean is still monitoring this thread, I humbly request that Sean send me the LCARS and other textures which he originally used on the set. Or should I contact Joe Ralat and ask him instead? Naturally, credits would be applied where they're due, of course.