Klingon Carrier Concept (once again)

[BoogerMc]

Welcome back fellas!

The down time let me get some stuff done. I'll post an overall to start for new members and as a reminder to latecomers. Then it's back to buisness.

Added the RCS thrusters, will have to add these to the nose section when I touch it up later. Also did a few beauty shots and some inside out shots to give you guys a feel for things. Enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/CarvsEntDvsBOPstarboard.jpg

The forward, upper neck RCS

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post224.jpg

The aft, upper RCS

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post225.jpg

The lower RCS

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post226.jpg

[BoogerMc]

Sorry for the double post, but I couldn't add everything in one, so here's the rest of the update.

After I took this shot I realized the airlocks looked bland, so I did a little detailing...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post227.jpg

And now a view from the "balcony"...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post228.jpg

And one with out the interior...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post229.jpg

Hope you guys like them and again welcome back to all.

[CrimsonLine]

Glad to see you back, BMc. Thanks for the renders! I like your airlocks and RCS packages.

[BlueRaa]

Ah, the magnificent carrier. Been watching this since the beginning, from the line designs and the dk'tahg fighter through to this. Love watching it develop. Keep it up.

[BoogerMc]

Nice to see you back BlueRaa. More to come, tonight I hope.

[evil_genius_180]

Yay!!!! The Klingon carrier is back!! Looks outstanding, of course. :D

[BoogerMc]

First off let me start by saying excuse me for the double post, but with the four images limit it will take me two to get it all in.

Last of the work that I can think needs doing. I added the lateral sensor arrays at eight point along the side of the neck/tail section. If you guys can see or think of anything I'm missing, please let me know. I still don't have the complete list of "necessary spaceship parts" in my head, so I might have missed a few details here and there.

Anyway here is the lateral sensor array fort the port rear...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post230.jpg

Now a little walk around the ship as it stands now. This is where you get to nit pick guys, so let me know what you think and what I'm missing if anything...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post231.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post234.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post235.jpg

[BoogerMc]

And a few more...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post236.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post237.jpg

Well there she is, no major close ups, but if you want to look at the stuff that came before go here...

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/

Hope that works. Enjoy.

[BoogerMc]

Just a little info, I did a screen cap of the ENterprise D from Jeff Russel's Starship Deminsions, then resized it to match the one in the pic at the top of the page. According to this site, Ent D is 643 meters long and it covers 65 graph squares per the site background. That means each square is about 10 meters. I used this to establish the general (not exact) deminsions of the carrier. They are as follows: Height - 270 meters or 67.5 decks (4meters per deck); Beam - 800 meters (nose to tail); Span - 720 meters (wingtip to wingtip). All in all not nearly as big as I'd hoped, but still rather impressive. It still gets dwarfed by a Romulan Warbird, damn. Little pic to help illustrate the size comparison. (yeah I know it's old)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/CarvsEntDvsBOPtopside.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

Damned Romulans!!

:)

Looking good, BMc.

[BoogerMc]

Yeah, they might have the bigger ship, but I'll bet mine's got a harder sting.

[BoogerMc]

I had an idea for a new wing section. I'm going to post two shots at different angles for the original and two at the same angles for the new one. Let me know which you guys like better. I'm not kidding around here, I really want your input on this one guys. Enjoy.

First the old one...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post238.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post239.jpg

and now the new one...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post241.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post240.jpg

So which one do you like better. I designed the new one off the neck shape to see if it fit the overall appearance better, but I'm not sure one way or the other. The neck in these shots is just a place holder, it is the original neck before I started to doctor it up. So don't think I regressed or that I'm gonna do that part over again because I aint, I'm happy with the neck as it appears in the posts above. But I still get this feeling I'm missing something, just don't know what. Anyway, let me know what you think on this new wing.

[evil_genius_180]

I like the first one if for no other reason than the Klingons like edged weapons. :) It sort of reminds me of a bat'leth. The second one doesn't have the sharpness and doesn't seem as Klingon. :D

[CrimsonLine]

I agree with the evil_genius (he IS a genius, after all, even if he is evil) unless you have something cool in mind for the flat center strip, the edged configuration looks more bat'leth like. And that's the inspiration for the ship, isn't it?

[evil_genius_180]

"It's Doctor Evil. I didn't spend eight years at evil medical school to be called 'mister.'" :D

[Oovebei]

Perfect found another thread I was following ;)

i would go for the first one, it's looks more 'Klingon' (aggressive and similar)

One of my fav threads :D

[BoogerMc]

We'll that's three for three, guess the edged one wins. If all goes well then I'll have some progress to show tonight. Thanks guys, I really appriciate it.

[MadKoiFish]

Well here I go to RUIN everything
I like the flat one. Reason is you can stuff a hell of a lot of weapons in there. EXP if you inset that flat area. HOWEVER I would like to see the outer wing thinned down some to give more detail IE have it sharped edged while the inner wing bit has the chamfered flat area with a recess for windows or weapons of pain. see attachment. I think dropping the height on the one wing will give you more visual detail and more surface to stuff things on.

I cant remember if you had stuff on the ends of the wings? I could swear you had a gimbal style turret on there.

either way hope you dont mind at all ~_~and I hope more that you can tell what Im trying to depict from the cheapo 1min doodles I did :(

[BoogerMc]

Great minds think alike, madkoifish. I like the idea of filling the flat spot up witrh stuff, in fact that's why I came up with it in the first place (you'll see what I mean with tonight's posts). I'm not sure however I like the thinner wing idea though, it would seem to throw the overall appearance off a bit. You are correct I did have four main guns, one on each tip, but I have been considering some different designs and am not sure what exactly I'll go with yet. I had even considered insetting the flat area on each tip and placing some sort of capital gun in there. But I do appreciate the input and there is some good ideas there none the less.

I know I gave you guys the option to choose and I still am. I thought If I illustrated my idea a bit better maybe you'd think twice. I'm not saying I'm going against anyone here, but I thought I'd give it one more shot to see if the new design does have its merits, or if it's just wishful thinking.

So I started to panel the original wing tonight (first pic) and then I "cut" a launch door into the old and the new wings to show where I had considered placing them. I included a fighter for comparison and a little nod to scale as well. (All credits given to where they are due, if anyone feels I credited them wrong please let me know [nicely]). The second pic is of the new wing and the third is the old wing. Again, I'm not sold on either one right now, so let me know what you think, opinions do count. Just don't be surprised if I beat you to an idea first, if you guys only knew how much I think about this thing all day long. I'm constantly building and rebuilding it in my mind, trying new ideas to see what works best before I actually sit down and do it, saves me a lot of time I wouldn't otherwise have. Anyway enjoy the updates however small they might be and let me know what you really think no matter what.

Paneling...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post242.jpg

New wing...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post243.jpg

Old wing...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post244.jpg

One last question for you guys, I did a paneling test some time ago (I'll repost the pic as well), I'm considering doing something like this at the end of the project over the whole ship, to give a bit more detail to the bland flat panels, if you think this would help, let me know, if not same goes. I was looking at some of the close ups and they just seem a bit bland without some extra panel lines, but maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. What do you guys think?

Old panel test...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/platingtestdetail.jpg

Later gators.

[Prime_8]

i think i said this before ..GOD IT'S BIG .

Sweet

[BoogerMc]

Welcome back Prime8, missed ya.

[Prime_8]

oh i keep a close eye on your efforts to improve the klingon empire . Well it's ships at any rate because we know the klingon empire is perfect .

[BoogerMc]

Ok one last shot, I thought maybe a little detailing on the new wing might look better so here is a bit more for your pleasure.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post245.jpg

[evil_genius_180]

You know, after reading Madkoifish's post, I do like the second wing for specifically the reasons mentioned. I just wasn't thinking outside the box I guess. :D

[CrimsonLine]

Like I said initially, I like the sharper wing unless you have something specific to fill that new space with. Looks like you do, so I say go for it. I think you definitely need to panel the interior spaces of those flat panels, too.

[BoogerMc]

Well guys, thanks for the input, I really appreciate it. I will give the new wing the go ahead, but I'm gonna keep the old one in reserve just in case. More to come tonight after I get home (if all goes well).

[BoogerMc]

A minor update, had a lot of personal stuff to take care of tonigh and I had to work over so I got a very late start.

Added some details to the new wing design and three sets of launch doors for the fighters. This looks to be as many as I can add on the outside wing face, but I should be able to get four, maybe five, sets on the inside wing face. That's a far cry from my original count, but still not bad. That would give me as little as 14 launch doors to a much as 16 doors. That means a total of 28 to 32 fighters can launch at a time in each wave. That's like two squadrons at a time, not bad. Anyway here's what they look like. Enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post246.jpg

[evil_genius_180]

Sweet. I like the bay doors in the wings. This leaves other areas of the ship available for other systems. :D

[BoogerMc]

This was always my intent, the current layout should give a few meters between the two launch bays. The launch bays are just single level areas that hold the fighters during engagements, the actual hangars and storage bays are above the upper doors and below the lower ones. There would be a total of four on this ship, two in each wing. The rest of the wing would be storage holds and some crew quarters mostly for the on call pilots and hangar staff. The neck is where the majority of the crew would live. The hooded section to the rear of the neck is main engineering and related areas.

[Prime_8]

so mor shielding and such in the neck .

[BoogerMc]

Well that's one reason for the heavy armored "cobra" styled shroud extending from the base of the neck all the way to engineering and spreading out to the first wingtips. It would provide extra protection for the crew area (from the top and partial sides) and it gives an extra area of protection for the fighters launching nearest the ship. Don't want them going boom and crashing through this part of the superstructure.

[BoogerMc]

Sorry about the long absence, been very busy around here. Have been working on her though, just been too tired to post late at night.

First up, finished the major paneling around the wing area...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post247.jpg

Will have to fill in the trench in the back soon, not sure yet IF I'll keep the landing bays like the launch bays...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post248.jpg

Also finished the upper panelling, I hope this fits well, I wasn't sure if I could pull it off, but I think it looks about right...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post249.jpg

And of course the lower paneling, I didn't want a repeat of the top, so I used different colors and shapes to do this side...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post250.jpg

Anyway hope you guys like what you see. Later and Enjoy.

[Gothic_Goatboy]

man, loving the idea of a swarm of BoP's comming out to meet an opponent...nice!

[nhall]

This reminds me of that flying spacedock mesh -- anyone remember that? could hold a few defiants, and one or two ships as large as an ambassador?

[BoogerMc]

I'm afraid she's not that big guys. In fact, a Romulan Warbird is actually bigger, but as for the swarm of BOP's, that'd still be cool, especially if they're backed up by several squads of Knife fighters as pictured above.

[Choo1701]

Thats very, very cool Bogger...

You are an honorble warrior

[MadKoiFish]

I like the colour and panel patterns on the bottom a lot. Keep missing the updates on thisthread too ~_~

[evil_genius_180]

I love it with the hull panels!! Excellent work. :thumb:

[BoogerMc]

Why thank you guys, I should have more tonight. Maybe.

[BoogerMc]

Well now that a week has passed, let me tell you what happened. I was nearly done with the trench area when I fell asleep at the keyboard (literally, no joking here) and some how puched the wrong set of keys and did some real damage to the ship. So I started to rebuild that area from scratch, but history repeated itself and again it got wiped and restarted. I really gotta stop these excessively late modeling sessions.

Anyway, I finished the back side of the wing as far as the trench is concerned. These would be the recovery bay doors you see here. Fighters enter these doors to return to the ship and be repaired, refueled or whatever it is they need. Take note in the close up that there is a set of guns for each pair of doors, these are to protect the interior of the ship from attack as well as the fighters that are coming in to land. These would be close in gunsand each one is manned by a gunner and an assistant. Anyway enjoy some long over due updates.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post251.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post251.jpg

Also take not that I returned to my original six sided doors, I like them much better and they're a lot easier to model. Plus they give the ship a better feel 'cuz they kinda look like teeth.

[Dallidas]

looks great!

[evil_genius_180]

Dude, I actually cringed when I read that part about falling asleep on the keyboard and then it happened again! :eek: That's some rough crap there.

However, it's great to see you got past it and whipped the ship back into shape. It looks great. :thumb:

[BoogerMc]

Time to voice your opinion guys, Let me know what you think because I'm not sure. Do you like them or should I do something else? Do they fit the ship? Any suggestion, drawings or ideas of anykind welcome and given carefull consideration.

Main cannons far away...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post254.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post255.jpg

HELP for lack of a better word.

[CrimsonLine]

Believe it or not, I like these better than any of the round-barrelled weapons you've come up with yet - maybe because they are elliptical in their cross-section, they look less like they shoot projectiles.

[BoogerMc]

So why do I feel like they don't fit the ship?

[evil_genius_180]

They fit the ship. They're cool. :devil:

[BoogerMc]

I played with what I have and figured out why they didn't look right. Not big enough to serve as replacements for my original design idea.

So after a little fanagaling, I might have the start of what I think is right. Enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post256.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post257.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post258.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post259.jpg

Well that's all for tonight, I'm half asleep and ready for bed.

[evil_genius_180]

Well, it is a Klingon ship, so huge guns are essential. I'd just hate to be that person standing in that barrel. :p Looks great. :D

[Choo1701]

I think they fit right :thumb:

and a Klingon ships gotta have big claws :D

[MadKoiFish]

Will these rotate gimbal like in the joint? (spelling ughh lol)

[BoogerMc]

If you mean like a ball and socket , yes, but not like a gattling gun, no axial rotation.

[CrimsonLine]

Ooooh! "axial"! Love that word.

[BoogerMc]

Cl, you need help. Then again don't we all.

[BoogerMc]

My apologies guys, I have nothing new to add, I've been dealing with a lot of real life problems in the past several weeks and have had no time for the 3D work. I will try to get back to te ship soon, I hope.

[BoogerMc]

Ok, out of obligation, I'll let you in on a little secret, LIFE SUCKS!

I have been unable to do anything with the carrier lately because I am now embroiled in one of the most difficult tasks anyone could ever have. I'm the sole executor and heir to my grandmother's estate and I'm pulling my hair out just trying to figure all this out. Without going into the morbid details, she passed away on the second of this month, however she was not found until the next day. I'm the one who found her. So please bear with me for a while longer, the carrier will eventually get finished.

Again, my apologies for the long hiatus.

[CrimsonLine]

Yikes, man! Sounds like an awful time. I pray that you are given the strength to make it through. And my condolences on the passing of your grandmother.

[BoogerMc]

Thanks CL, nice to see you still alive and kickin' as well. If you think that's bad, my father passed on July 11th of this year and my Grandmother passed just three days prior to the anniverssary of her husband's death. The same day as his passing marks 13 years in my "job" for lack of a more descriptive and most likely not allowed term for what passes as my main source of employment. I've been slowly dabbling with 3D to get back into it, but the time needed to do the carrier just isn't available right now. I check in here from time to time, but other than that, that's about it right now. But one day I will overcome and finish what I started.

[BoogerMc]

Ok, minor update. Cl got me to thinking maybe just a little effort could get the ball rolling. So a few new panels and we'll see what happens from there. Saddly this old girl isn't too far from finished, or at least as far as I can tell.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post260.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post263.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post264.jpg

Like I said a little bit to start.

[Starship]

Welcome back !:)

[BoogerMc]

Thank You.

More panel work, this is why I got bored, but it's gotta get done.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post261.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post262.jpg

These are the launch doors, they are smaller than the recovery doors.

[BoogerMc]

A little bit more. Im tired so the pictures can speak for themselves.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post265.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post266.jpg

Goodnight all.

[Atolm]

Yeap...i still like this design :)

[BoogerMc]

Welcome back Atolm.

More minor stuff. Enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post267.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post268.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post269.jpg

I'm almost there, but now this paticular file is so large it's slowing my system down and that's hard to do. Damn it.

[BoogerMc]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post270.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post271.jpg

Closer still, not much further to go, but I do not fore see being able to do full renders for some time. But we'll see.

[BoogerMc]

Back for now, added some RCS thrusters to the wingtips. Still more to do.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post274.jpg

[BoogerMc]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post276.jpg

Starting to add sensor arrays. This is the last few pieces to add I think.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post277.jpg

A bit closer.

[BoogerMc]

The forward arrays are in, just finished the lateral arrays. I realized I still need airlocks, damn, so close. Enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post278.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post279.jpg

[BoogerMc]

Airlocks, need I say more.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post280.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/Klingon%20Carrier%20Concept%20Part%20II/c2post281.jpg

Just in case anybody is interested (and judging by the number of posts lately, I'm guessing you're not :) ) I found my face counter and it says the portion of the ship you see in the last pic is just over 6,500,000 faces. I can only imagine what the final count for the entire ship will be.

[BoogerMc]

No new pics, but I will let you know where I'm at at this point. I have about a dozen or so objects left to duplicate and position on the wing area. I am having difficulty getting this done however because the file is so large it is eating up RAM like candy. I duplicate an object and then wait up to ten minutes for it to actually process and complete the the duplication. Then move it and wait another ten minutes for the object to actually move. On and on like this, a few minutes of normal work is taking hours. But the god news is I'm almost done and ready to bring it all together. So keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.

[evil_genius_180]

It's been too long since I've been in this thread. But, it seems you've been a bit absent, also. :devil:

This is just outstanding. So many details since I last saw it. Great work. :thumb:

[sovrane]

Havent seen tthis Thread in a long time. I like it!
Keep workin!

[BoogerMc]

Thanks guys, I'm still at it, S L O W L Y. :)

[BoogerMc]

Ok, no new pics, but at least an update. I tried to do an end run around my problem and found out what my problem really was. As I'm trying to mirror the port side to the starboard side, Blender keeps crashing because there is just too much info for my system to handle. Old problem stated. New problem, the last few details are the ones causing the most trouble. It turns out the gun stations make up at least 80 to 90% or the overall file, this is wierd and frustrating at the same time because they are the last items to be mirrored and I'm done. So anyway, I thought I'd just let you guys know (those interested anyway) that I'm still at it, just very, very slowly.

[Dimitriy]

Treckies....

[CrimsonLine]

That's unhelpful, Dimitriy.









As well as misspelled. :)
But then, Knowledge is light, and ignorance is darkness.

[Dimitriy]

to CrimsonLine: well Sir...when it comes to Star Trek - I am pretty much useless. I've never been a fan of this show. All I know about Star Trek is that my friend is a trekie and he is pretty much nuts.

As to the spelling, there are only two languages in this world that I never make spelling mistakes in. C/C++ and MIPS...

Ekskuze mai havi rassian akcent Ser....

[BoogerMc]

Now for the really bad news, as some of you may know this was placed on hold for computer related problems. It is now in total limbo due to a systems crash and reboot problem which resulted in the loss of all my blender files (as well as many others); so this and all of my other projects are now defunct. I will attempt as I have time to rebuild this and all my other ships as soon as possible, but don't anyone hold their breath because it will take some time to do so. Just felt you all diserved to know.

[Elowan]

That's unhelpful, Dimitriy.

As well as misspelled. :)
But then, Knowledge is light, and ignorance is darkness.

Yeah. It should be spelled 'dreckies'.:flippy:

[CrimsonLine]

Sorry to hear that, BMc...

[elitewolverine]

try a file recovery program quickly, there are some free ones out there....do it immediately, i was able to save tons of blender files from the same type of crash just a few months ago....

[BoogerMc]

It's worse than I thought. I lost my main files because I had to reboot my Op Sys. I lost my storage drive files (my back ups) because somehow in the process my storage drive got ganked. It is completely inacessable, unformattable nad in generally lost to my system. Nothing I have done so far has been able to resusitate it, it is for all intents and purposes dead. On the other hand the rest of my system seems to be operating fine, slow, but fine.

The good news is - ready for this - in order to test it, I started my carrier again. This time however I'm going to do some massive renovating of my original design and hopefully create something whose file size will be more managable so I can actually finish it. This will be my fourth restart if you count my old CAD version, if not, then it is my third for Blender. Wish me luck or some such jazz and pray to whatever God you worship that it works this time.

[BoogerMc]

A minor update and a little teaser of things to come. Let me know what you think.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier/NKC1.jpg

[Chris Vickers]

What a crime that you lost all of that!!! But the new version seems to be coming along well.

[CrimsonLine]

I like it, BMc. Sleek and smooth.

[BoogerMc]

Thanks Cl, but it wont stay that way long, I'm still gonna armorplate the hell out of it. But here's something for you to chew on, I'm reconsidering the gun barrels and such, they were trully part of the problem last time around, so I am going to rethink them a bit. TIme will tell what will be my final idea.

Right now I have two ongoing projects, the carrier and my Grandmother's house. It was also among the casulties of this disaster, so I have to rebuild it so I will have it as a blueprint for my remodeling job. If anyone is interested I can post that project as well.

[BoogerMc]

Once again I'm raising the dead. As I stated in my Navarone thread, the carrier is back on the drawing board. I did not continue the previous incarnation further than what is seen above for the very same reason that the previous design was causing me all sorts of havoc. So I, once again, started from scratch. This time however I had a plan in mind, make it as simple as possible and let materials and textures do the detail work. So using bits of the old and creating some new ideas along the way, I've been somewhat succesful in my endeavor. It's not as nice as the one I lost, but it has its points and it is not giving my system headaches. So to wet your appetite, here are a few shots of what I have so far, but be forwarned, it may be some time before I post anything further. So with that said, enjoy and C and C -as always - is welcomed.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier/KCV51.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier/KCV52.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

Wow! The new head of the Carrier looks very serpentine with the paneling the way it is. Those are bump maps? They look great.

[somacruz145]

A bit too shiny and rough on the plates for my taste but overall it looks pretty good :thumb:

[BoogerMc]

Well, if a bump map is me overlaying a picture of a bunch or miss matched squares and rectangles over the main body color (probably why it's so shiny, guess I'll have to work on that), then yes by default; if not then no. As I said, I'm modeling very conservatively, the fewer faces the better; but I'm trying to use materials and textures for the extreme details. I realized that by modeling the details on the previous versions, it was creating this huge file that my system just couldn't process; so I'm going the opposite direction this time around. I'll be the first to admit that it does not come even close to the quality of the last couple of designs, but at this point I'll be happy just getting it finished. One day I'll have a system that can really handle it and then I'll rebuild her the right way; until then this will have to do.

CL, I've really been trying to follow your advice about the guns, but I'm having a lot of trouble designing anything that looks right on this ship and appears to fit the ST style. I have decided that instead of the in close guns being gattling style, It'd be more effective to use modified phaser emitters and require a lot less faces. I have to admitt the guns on this are a real challenge (this coming from the guy who seems to make guns for a hobby [check out some of my other threads if you don't believe me]). Anyway, I played with it a little tonight at work, but nothing to post right now; maybe with in the week or so.

[CrimsonLine]

OK. I'll be looking forward to it.

[BoogerMc]

Minor update and request for opinions. As I stated before, the guns have been giving me a hard time. I'm trying to be more ST in style and appearance, but for some reason this doesn't set well with this ships over all design. So I came up with a couple of ideas and I think these are about the best. The Capitol guns can't really go much different than previous interpretations because of the type of gun they are supposed to be. They are supposed to fire a magnetically contained plasma round. So they kind of need to look a lot like capitol guns on battleships of today, but I'm open to suggestions or design ideas if anyone can offer them as long as they stick with the basic idea behing the gun itself.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier/KCV53.jpg

Next is the medium range gun, (I think this is the one CL has the biggest "problem" with) it looks a lot like the old WWII tank side guns (which is what it supposed to look like originally) but again I'm open to suggestions or ideas to make this more ST like if it goes with or (I guess you could say) fits the style of the ship.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier/KCV54.jpg

At this moment nothing is concrete (except for what kind of guns the capitol guns are, but not neccessarily how they look) because I'm still looking for way to reduce face count and if I (or someone else) can design a low face count gun that looks the part and serves the purpose I'm willing to give it a try. Any takers?

[BoogerMc]

As they say, nothing is forever. I was not happy with the last version of the carrier, it just wasn't as nice as the lost design; so I started over AGAIN. I still have a plan, but I really want to do this right and give it the detail and attention it deserves. So here are four shots of my latest incarnation, not materials or textures yet, I'm concentrating on design and modeling only right now. I will add M & T as I get into the details. C & C welcome and enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic1.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic2.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic3.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic4.jpg

[Starship]

It´s cool to see that you´re back. ;)

[CrimsonLine]

Welcome back!

[BoogerMc]

Back, but intermittenly. Thanks all the same guys.

[BoogerMc]

Minor update and some opinion seeking.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic5.jpg

Does the top look better without the red or with the red?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic8.jpg

Now the bottom.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic6.jpg

Same question, with or without?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic7.jpg

Let me know. It's taking me longer to work on this one because I'm being a lot more careful about certain things and I've got a lot going on a personal side as well; so I get to it as I can, but not generally more than once a week or so. Hopefully though this will pay off in the end.

[CrimsonLine]

Top: with

Bottom: without

[BoogerMc]

Thanks CL. I am considering doing the entire top that way, what do you think?

[CrimsonLine]

I think it would get a bit monotonous if the whole top was that way.

[BoogerMc]

I think it would get a bit monotonous if the whole top was that way.

Yes I think it would. Plus after some careful consideration and many, many, many botched attempts I said "to heck with it." More updates as tehy become available.

[BoogerMc]

Long time since I posted anything, I know, but life has not been kind to me and I've been busy trying to deal with it.

Anyway, I got a little time to play around with it and have a few updates; however, I don't know when the next ones will be ready. So enjoy them while you can.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic9.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic10.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic11.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic12.jpg

[Starship]

Welcome back!
Good update. :)

[BoogerMc]

A little more, I'm trying to remake the lost version without the high face count, enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic13.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic14.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic15.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic16.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic17.jpg

Enjoy.

[Robert Harrison]

I love this ship... well done :D Look forward to look seeing much more of this...

[BoogerMc]

A few updates, enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic18.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic19.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic20.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic21.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic22.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic23.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic24.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic25.jpg

[BoogerMc]

A bit more, enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic26.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic27.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic28.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic29.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic30.jpg

[BoogerMc]

A few minor updates. Life has been kicking my butt, but I still play with this from time to time. More as they become available.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic31.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic32.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/BoogerMc/New%20Klingon%20Carrier%20V6/Pic33.jpg

[evil_genius_180]

Holy crapy, dude. You're still working on this? Wow. I saw the thread title and the first post date and went, "Hey, I remember that from way back in the day." ;)

It's looking really good. I'm liking the wings and back end a lot. :)

[BoogerMc]

Yeah, its been slow going, but I'm still at it. Life has just been kicking my rear so much that I only get to work on it every once and awhile. Still, more to come as I get to it.