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Morpheus
21st Dec 2006, 00:08
Hi there, I'm taking a break from my fleet project. I'm making the Saratoga from SAAB now and I'm hoping I could learn how to give a sci-fi military ship more details.

Sadly there are only a few reference I could use, mostly came from this website : SPACE ABOVE AND BEYOND the Bitter End (http://web-worthy.com/saab/).

So this is the Saratoga WIP, C&C are welcome :)

lem096
21st Dec 2006, 00:11
sweet...... been looking forward for this one

Tovette
21st Dec 2006, 00:16
sweetness. I remember the marine carriers from S:aaB

StarSlayer
21st Dec 2006, 00:26
SAAB i loved that show

The Ike fly by in "Sugar Dirt" is probably one of the best New Hope interpretations ive ever seen

vf-1msx
21st Dec 2006, 00:33
COOL
keep up the good work:thumb:

Morpheus
21st Dec 2006, 13:03
I've added more details to the hangar pods area. Its kinda difficult to make the upper hull since I have to rely on blur images of the ship, The area around the superstructure is also quite hard to imagine :mad: . Well, I'll keep on trying to add more detail until I ran out of imagination :D .

Here's some close up on the hangar pods.

Morpheus
24th Dec 2006, 23:07
I've made some of the top hull greebles and I'm planning to give them more details. I also have some problems with smoothing edges during import to Blender since I done most of the modeling in Wings3D.

I'm planning to make both the Saratoga variants and the Eisenhower variants (this one has 2 kinetic weapons with more weapons).

Tovette
25th Dec 2006, 01:10
That's awesome! The more I see this the more I wish that show wasn't cancelled. It was so awesome. It was pretty popular too, so I don't know why it was cancelled... :(

bagera4000
25th Dec 2006, 01:24
Saratoga just anther verson of flying brick ship like to see more sleek ships

Tovette
25th Dec 2006, 02:20
I actually never thought of it as a 'brick'. It's profile is too think and it's long. I always equated it to a sled. It's not my favorite design but becuase it's from one of my favorite show's I like it. :) Plus there's so good modelling going on ;)

StarSlayer
25th Dec 2006, 03:13
Saratoga just anther verson of flying brick ship like to see more sleek ships

Sleek is overated and actually not even required in space, big heavy industrial ships ftw, ISDs, Omegas, Saratoga, BSGs:lol:

Fat bottom girls are better then fancy dan dainty ships(at least when it comes to spaceships):flippy:


But on a serious note, are you planning to add the big broadsiding seige gun? Looks like a giant Civil War Dalhgren gun and was best featured in "Sugar Dirt"

Elowan
25th Dec 2006, 14:48
Saratoga just anther verson of flying brick ship like to see more sleek ships

You mean like the ST 'frisbies'?:devil:

Morpheus
25th Dec 2006, 15:30
But on a serious note, are you planning to add the big broadsiding seige gun? Looks like a giant Civil War Dalhgren gun and was best featured in "Sugar Dirt"

Probably, I have little reference on both the Saratoga and the Eisenhower variant. Basically they share the same hull, the only differences lies on the weapons layout. I'll work on those guns after I satisfied with the details on the Saratoga variant :D .

Morpheus
26th Dec 2006, 00:49
I've made some modification on the superstructure and added more details. I have to fix those nasty mesh error, it doesn't appear in Wings but its pretty visible when I exported it to Blender.

I wish I can see 'Sugar Dirt' again to get a clear view of the Eisenhower :(

Nevets
28th Dec 2006, 11:40
I haven't seen this ship in years.

I've been looking for my VHS ones since November. I hope I haven't got rid of them. If I can't find the tapes, I hope the series is on DVD.

The programme was cut short. Isn't the need for ratings a great idea. LOL :)

willomally
28th Dec 2006, 14:59
The series is out on dvd i saw it at hasting's the other day

BradMick
29th Dec 2006, 15:23
Shaping up really well! I Know Jeff Murcko did a lot of S:AAB work a long while ago, dug up a picture of his Saratoga for you.


http://www.feathersandstones.com/Saratoga.jpg

Brad

lennier1
29th Dec 2006, 15:28
@Morpheus: Nice progress. Itīs always great to see people work on S:AAB models.

Shaping up really well! I Know Jeff Murcko did a lot of S:AAB work a long while ago, dug up a picture of his Saratoga for you.


http://www.feathersandstones.com/Saratoga.jpg

BradI wonder if he ever finished the landing gear for that bomber?

Morpheus
30th Dec 2006, 00:13
Shaping up really well! I Know Jeff Murcko did a lot of S:AAB work a long while ago, dug up a picture of his Saratoga for you.


http://www.feathersandstones.com/Saratoga.jpg

Brad

Wow thanks a lot Brad, I could use this reference. I'll try to focus on the top greeble this time. ;)

Morpheus
31st Dec 2006, 09:37
I've added more details to the top hull including the 15-tubes phalanx missile launchers. I'm wondering what to do with the rest of the empty area, should I add extra greeble or some paneling? I have to admit that I'm not familiar with using texture (let alone texturing a complex model) :confused:

Paveway
3rd Jan 2007, 01:36
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara5.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara6.jpg

There is another variant that has a second "flight deck" type structure on the other side including the long tube thing. The two dorsal missile launchers are moved in front of them.

Tovette
3rd Jan 2007, 02:29
All of your links are busted, Paveway. Try imageshack or photobucket to host your pics. Or you can use complimentary space in your SFM account to host your pics here. :)

StarSlayer
3rd Jan 2007, 02:58
funy they work for me

Parker Midwinter
3rd Jan 2007, 04:02
"Abbandon all hope" my ASS! -- The Comodore


very nice!

Morpheus
3rd Jan 2007, 11:20
There is another variant that has a second "flight deck" type structure on the other side including the long tube thing. The two dorsal missile launchers are moved in front of them.

That's the ill fated Eisenhower from "Sugar Dirt". I wish I can buy the DVD, I remember that their showing more vessel of the Earth fleet in "Sugar Dirt".

Paveway
4th Jan 2007, 00:55
All of your links are busted, Paveway. Try imageshack or photobucket to host your pics. Or you can use complimentary space in your SFM account to host your pics here. :)


Just links I pulled off google.

The blueprints for the SCVN are fairly common around the net, should be no trouble finding copies with a bit of googling..

Morpheus
4th Jan 2007, 02:58
Just links I pulled off google.

The blueprints for the SCVN are fairly common around the net, should be no trouble finding copies with a bit of googling..

I already have those blueprint in my HD for a couple of years, but thanks for the link anyway. Too bad the blueprints are from the side only, I could use high res orthographic view from all sides :lol: .

Some update, I've added some of the pulse lasers, I'm still struggling with the hull greebles.

Morpheus
6th Jan 2007, 01:25
Ok, I've added some hull panel tiles on the top of the ship and add some greebles. The poly count is around 60k making it the most complex model I've built so far.

However the panel lines didn't show up when I render it, probably got something to do with the lighting setup in Blender (I used Yafray GI with one photon light behind the camera). Any idea how I can highlight the panel lines? :confused:

quetzal
18th Aug 2009, 15:49
Nice, one of my favorite capital ships besides the original Galactica. Can't wait to see more.

Sphynx
18th Aug 2009, 17:26
Quetzal - You have just dragged up a thread that is in excess of 2 years old.

Please do not necropost. if you wish to discuss anything with the author, please use the PM system.

Thread is now closed until the author wants it re-opened.