Atlantis

[Vilandra]

Decided to go back and retexture my city. Also decided to remodel a few things, and fix a few errors. This is just one of the piers im retexturing. Still got a few more to go. Poly count is 350,000. More than likely, by the time I get finished with these new "fixes", the poly count should be upwards of 4 million. More to come later.

[Ramiel]

Glad to see again this beauty:thumb:

[specs2]

Oh my, great start.

[Vilandra]

Been working on the main center tower some more. Got a few more things to do, and then ive got to work on fixing the shaders and textures.

By the way, if any mods are viewing this, did our attachment limit go down? Ive noticed that uploading only 2 pictures seems to take up more room then previously.

[John Sheppard]

Holy crap, that will rock when it's finished.

[Dallidas]

sweet!

do you know how many polys were in the *first* atlantis mesh?

[Vilandra]

Yes. The original atlantis model was alittle over 4 million, and used about a gigabyte of textures. Mine so far is only using around 40 MB's of textures.

[Dallidas]

i thought it was 2gb of textures, or maybe that was the second one.

[Vilandra]

This render is just a test for my haze shader im making. There is no antialiasing in this, or a floor. Just the city, sky, and haze.

[Ainur]

OOO Looks very nice. I think the haze is a bit too close, but that is all personal style, really.

[Dallidas]

OOO Looks very nice. I think the haze is a bit too close, but that is all personal style, really.


the city is the size of manhattan...so its really not that close...:thumb:

love the haze, looks very cool! will you make it so thatthe shadows from the towers will be visible in it?

[Vilandra]

love the haze, looks very cool! will you make it so that the shadows from the towers will be visible in it?

I might, but I think that would require some volumetric lights. I'll have to give it a try later. Remember, im still using my old laptop.. 466 Mhz, 160 MB RAM, 2 MB integrated graphics....

[Dallidas]

lol im sorry...

[False_Prophecy]

WOW......just....wow... i cant believe you've got that many polys goin with such a ......."smal" comp ( abousolutely no offense ment, ur amazing) my comp isnt much better and it STILL has problems with not having enough memory and what not. im runnin on 600 MHz, 256 ram, and my pics still turn out like crap with no detail. Ive been using C4D for about a year and i still cant make pics like that. so yet again, WOW, great talent.

[demented]

This is looking very nice. Im a big SG fan and your doing Atlantis justice.

Keep it going :)

[Vilandra]

Ive been working on this project lately, and here is what ive quickly put together. Im retexturing the entire city, and adding new parts and remodeling old parts.

[mikala]

I like the different combinations in the surfacing of the city. The contrasts are very nice.

[SGA-3D]

Great work Vilandra!

[Dallidas]

looking fantastic! but what is the big glass looking box on the pier?

[chrisbarnett20]

can we have a side shot of the city?

[Vilandra]

Heres a little update on the city. Its been undergoing a make-over. Ive retextured just about everything with higher res textures. Got 2 more piers to retexture, and remodel a few things, then ill have to put all the peices together.

[Vilandra]

Heres another higher res render. Most of the modeling is done. Right now im having problems finding the right settings for material specular, and trying to come up with a good light rig for this is a pain.

[SGA-3D]

Really cool work Vilandra! I suggest upping the gloss level slightly, so that the bright specular area is only a certain size, but not too much that it looks like plastic.

[Dallidas]

that last render looks awesome! kinda dreamy i suppose. but 1 pier doesnt seem to be textured

[IainB]

This is fantastic man!! You got skiiiiills there mutiplyin!!!!!do di doooo... urm sorry about that....
Superlative mesh mate!!
super

[Admiral Danev]

how is the base of the city coming along, noone seems to do this and they are not sure of how the central spire looks. i was watching stargate atlantis rising just before and i noticed that there is a closeup of them and here are the scren caps for ya if you dont already have them...

[theleast]

Amazing work there, awesome stuff. :thumb:

[Joe Brown]

Fresh, from the episode 'PROGENY' - the best I can add for city details:

[Alareth]

Yes, Progeny had some excellent angles of the cityship. I had not realized the central spire was "detached" from the rest of the city like that.

[Vilandra]

Thanks for the caps. Looks like ive got my work cut out for me with the bottom. By the time this thing is done, it will probably be over 3 million polys. Ive seriously got to cut down on the poly count. Its getting out of control.

[Duckytheinvincable]

mmmm....glossy....*drools over keyboard*

[JustinDixon]

mmmm prettttyyyy

[JustinDixon]

oh and 3m? that's actually quite good for a city like this tbh

[Sauron18]

Joe Brown: Those are the best quality caps I've seen of Progeny! :D

Any chance you could post a few more?:rolleyes:

[al3d]

VERY good man...looks awsome, best Atlantis I've seen so far....i did'nt read trough the whole thread so sorry if it was said, but what are you building the mesh in?....please don't say max..LOL

[Choo1701]

i think its "Cinema 4D" Al.....

[Vilandra]

VERY good man...looks awsome, best Atlantis I've seen so far....i did'nt read trough the whole thread so sorry if it was said, but what are you building the mesh in?....please don't say max..LOL

Thanks! Im using Cinema 4D.

[MajorPayne]

Vilandra. Theres nothing like giving detail when you can, so I would say go for it. Its looking top notch so far.

[mister moumou]

hello vilandra my name is mister moumou I create atlantis using your city and on adove sight of atlantis would be useful for me.
.thank you.

[sheppard123]

Joe Brown: Those are the best quality caps I've seen of Progeny! :D

Any chance you could post a few more?:rolleyes:

Yeah, as in from the beginning of the ep and near the end? And is there a chance you (vilandra) could show a pic of your model completely from a front view?

[Cameron Mitchel]

Please release the model....

[Andrew March]

Rather than begging for it in the guy's thread, why don't you ask via a PM, you won't feel like an idiot if the guy says no ;)

Great looking model, quite accurate from what I've seen.

[Cameron Mitchel]

Well, I dont care, I wont feel like an idiot.

[General_Zod]

If you beg any more you'll never get it.

[SGA-3D]

I can tell you now that Vilandra won't be releasing it. It has been such a lengthy project for him to just give it way.

[Andrew March]

Well, I dont care, I wont feel like an idiot.

You were saying?

[Cameron Mitchel]

I can tell you now that Vilandra won't be releasing it. It has been such a lengthy project for him to just give it way.
okay. I'm fine with that. And begging, just for those who dont know, is only considered begging when its done more than once.

[Vilandra]

Its been a while since ive posted any updates. Ive been working on a few other projects, but I recently started working on the city again. Here is my latest rendering. Once I add the ocean, it will be done. Then ill render out an animation with it.

And to clearify, I have no plans to release this model. However, I am thinking about releasing my old one to a few certain individuals who have helped me in the past.

The animation will be coming soon.

[mikala]

A nice sunny day on Atlantis.
She's a beaut!

[Endeavour]

That's cool. Just wondering, do you have any pics of just the central spire? I'm looking forward to said animation. Just curious, did you include the underworks, as shown in "Progeny", and hinted at in "Rising"?

[Casperhead]

If you could could you please get it in Lightwave format?

[Vilandra]

I am going to redo the underneath. Hopefully it wont take long.

Casperhead, "if" I do release the older version, I can only output the file as .c4d, .obj, and .3ds. Cinema 4D doesnt export to lwo.

[Dallidas]

i could import the .obj and export as .lwo

[mister moumou]

vilandra it would be possible to have a sights ortho of your city playse

[Vilandra]

Ok, for anyone else who wants a top orthographic shot, here it is. I currently do not have any other ortho shots.

[Greathor]

Very nice :)

[Cameron Mitchel]

i could import the .obj and export as .lwo
Hey, I'll be happy to help in any way I could. And it is really nice.

[Bar]

Ok, for anyone else who wants a top orthographic shot, here it is. I currently do not have any other ortho shots.
That is very nice.
Could you possibly render that one again with no shadows?
I really like it, by the way!
Bar.

[Cerberus]

These may help or they may not. some of the effects shots in Progeny were really blurry for some reason.

Does anyone else think thats grass on Asuras, or is it just me.

:D

[Cerberus]

couple more.

[cirus5555]

god I must have mist that episode look absolutly stunning woooooooow

[Dallidas]

great pics ceberus! as for the grass...well i dont tihnk it is. if you look at it from the other angle, its more gray/brown than green, so i dont think its grass.....unless there groundskeepers are just lazy lol

[Endeavour]

Did anyone else catch the major visual goofs? Like how in one shot it shows the central tower being diamond shaped, then in another its a hexagon like Atlantis. And how the piers have large sections cut out when viewed from above, but then they're filled in for the engine shots. Just my 2 cents. And where's your grass. Cerberus?

[Cerberus]

My grass is the green stuff on the the peirs. THere are some browner sections like paths or somthing. And I am so glad its not just me that doesn't understand the actual shape of atlantis. Especially when you look at the schematics on the show and compare them to the show model... there's like 3 different versions of atlantis.

[Dallidas]

My grass is the green stuff on the the peirs. THere are some browner sections like paths or somthing. And I am so glad its not just me that doesn't understand the actual shape of atlantis. Especially when you look at the schematics on the show and compare them to the show model... there's like 3 different versions of atlantis.

well there are atleast 2 different models. this seasons model is different than season 1's model. I think they use 2 GXF studios so i think they each have there own version.

as for the goofs, i too noticed them, BUT they only appear when its in the water. So the cut outs could be filled with water, hiding the engine sections. Probably wrong though

[JustinDixon]

just you. That's a style that's often used to help promote size. Look at starwars episode 3, they used the same style in several city shots.

[Dallidas]

im confused, what are you talking about?

[Greathor]

Is there any chance of a texture release? I'm just saying that cuz I have a really low poly Atlantis for a comp game and am in need of textures.


As for different city ships, isn't Atlantis the origional, so the other ones in Pegasus could be a newer design or something like that...

[Endeavour]

The time that I really noticed the cutouts was when Asuras was taking off, so the cutouts are there for more than just the water. Don't you just love it when they use multiple models that are all different?

[Dallidas]

The time that I really noticed the cutouts was when Asuras was taking off, so the cutouts are there for more than just the water. Don't you just love it when they use multiple models that are all different?

you would think that they would use the same studio for the same sets of shots in the same scece, but who knows..

[nhall]

I love that render of the city! It's lovely!

Cheers,
Nick

"The Ancients aren't from another galaxy, they're from Canada. Just look how clean their city is!"

[mikala]

Nick

"The Ancients aren't from another galaxy, they're from Canada. Just look how clean their city is!"

Thats right eh!

[SGA-3D]

well there are atleast 2 different models. this seasons model is different than season 1's model. I think they use 2 GXF studios so i think they each have there own version.

as for the goofs, i too noticed them, BUT they only appear when its in the water. So the cut outs could be filled with water, hiding the engine sections. Probably wrong though

I think after a little research, the two city versions were done by Rainmaker (definitely) and Atmosphere Visual Effects (who do a lot of BSG's effects). Atmosphere did the Asuras city shots until the city took off. Rainmaker's then appeared with the underside shot of it leaving the atmosphere. I just ignore the goofs. The effects in that episode were incredible, and really showed off the city well. They would have had to have used 2 vendors in order to get the amount of new shots of the city that they needed.

[Casperhead]

Its been a while since ive posted any updates. Ive been working on a few other projects, but I recently started working on the city again. Here is my latest rendering. Once I add the ocean, it will be done. Then ill render out an animation with it.

And to clearify, I have no plans to release this model. However, I am thinking about releasing my old one to a few certain individuals who have helped me in the past.

The animation will be coming soon.

That render is pure sex. No I take that back that render is even better than sex.

[sumisu55]

I can not figure out where the Daedalus lands when it comes to Atlantis. I know that it lands on the outer parts of one of the arms. Does anyone know what part of the out arms that it lands on (either an open patch of the hexagon on the tip of one of the arms that kind of looks like a landing pad)?

[Bar]

It lands on the water between the arms.

[Vilandra]

Ive been working on another light setup. Heres a quick test. It needs more work, but I just wanted to get an idea of what the lights look like.

[Dallidas]

looking great!

i was wondering if i could use your window/light textures for a small project of mine.

[mister moumou]

vilandra have you other WIP or picture of your city ?

[Vilandra]

Another render. This time ive added some haze. There is still some parts I havent textured yet.

Dallidas, my window/light texture is a procedural shader that was created in Cinema 4D. There are no images used for it.

[Dallidas]

Another render. This time ive added some haze. There is still some parts I havent textured yet.

Dallidas, my window/light texture is a procedural shader that was created in Cinema 4D. There are no images used for it.

dang....o well i got SGA's textures to use.:thumb:

new render looks awesome, except for the untextured bits, which im sure you'll get too. The mist also seems to even throughout the height. Maybe make it thin out as it goes up.:thumb:

[mister moumou]

could you give me the texture of before atlantis because I do not manage myself to make it even me

[mister moumou]

http://3%20paint/

[shepard137]

Ok, for anyone else who wants a top orthographic shot, here it is. I currently do not have any other ortho shots.
where did you aquire this image and do you know where i can find the other views?

[Vilandra]

Thats a top ortho of my city mesh. Its the only ortho ive made.

[mister moumou]

I've got some problem of texture, but that gives that .

http://storage.canalblog.com/07/40/231809/9339767.jpg

[gthompsn]

nice

[PoubelleMan]

What's the poly count of this beauty ?

[mister moumou]

It counts 246 poly

[gthompsn]

It counts 246 polythousand or million? j/k

[mister moumou]

Vilandra could you release your city in .c4d ? it could be interesting me .

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e-mail: mister.moumou@hotmail.fr

[Vilandra]

1. Its not finished yet.
2. Its 2.4 million polys
3. Im taking it back in for another over-haul (mostly new textures)
4. If I release it, then everyone will want it, and theres always someone that will claim it as their own.
5. I have put way too many hours into it to release it for free.
6. Everyone has been making a lot of Stargate wallpapers, so once im finished with it, it will be my turn to produce countless wallpapers. :D

[Vilandra]

Heres the latest render. This is to test the new environment ive been messing around with.

[Bar]

It's looking beautiful, dude.
Is there any chance we could get ortho views of the city?(Looking straight down on the top, a couple of side views and looking straight up at the bottom?)
I would love to make a 3d(Plastic) model of the city, and those views would really help me out.
Bar.

[Dallidas]

the city is looking great! that water could use some work though

[Vilandra]

The orthos will have to come later. Ive got way too much stuff going on right now.

Dallidas, yeah, creating realistic (believable) water in Cinema 4D isnt easy. Ive got a few tricks im going to try, but that last image was just to show the haze/atmosphere ive been working on.

[mister moumou]

These pictures represent my atlantis city's.

[NIKIN]

wow, these are just amazing, and must have taken forever

[Bar]

I SO want to make a model of Atlantis.
It would only be 1.2 metres across at 1/2500, to go with my Daedalus and Prometheus...
It's finding orthos that's the problem...
Bar.

[NIKIN]

I would love to make or buy one if I had anywhere near the resources, but I know I would either do it badly or just stop working.

I would also love to buy your one if you ever made it bar, along with the rest of the fleet if course

[Bar]

I would love to make or buy one if I had anywhere near the resources, but I know I would either do it badly or just stop working.

I would also love to buy your one if you ever made it bar, along with the rest of the fleet if course

I will network at WF next week, and see if anyone wants to make the Ares.
In the meantime, a 1.2 metre Atlantis would merely be a scratchbuild, never a kit. It would be about $200 worth of resin alone...
Bar.

[NIKIN]

I don't know how many people actually have room for a 1.2 metre model, it would be pretty tall too.

But the ares I am much more likely to get on my budget

[Lonewriter]

nice mesh. I can almost see Rodney and Shepard now.:D

[Dallidas]

I SO want to make a model of Atlantis.
It would only be 1.2 metres across at 1/2500, to go with my Daedalus and Prometheus...
It's finding orthos that's the problem...
Bar.

you could always ask SGA:thumb:

[Bar]

You make a convincing arguement!
:D

[Vilandra]

Ive decided to go back and retexture my atlantis model. Ive come across some new high res textures, so ill be using them to replace the older low res stuff. Im also going back and adding more detail to certain areas. I havent made any animations of the city in a long time, so here is a quick test I did earlier today. Nothing special, just a night time test... like in the 2nd part of the pilot episode "Rising".

Video is 320x240 divx More to come later.

[svobomil]

That looks gooood!

[Vilandra]

Ok, these will probably be the last WIP imags I post of this model. Its just about finished, so hopefully soon ill be making some wallpaper.

2.3 million poly's! Over 100 hours.

[svobomil]

Im looking forward to this.

[Dallidas]

whats going on in the second pic?

[svobomil]

Atlantis expedition party.

[Cale0]

wow man amazing work best i have seen

[Darth Ziggy]

Nice!

[MasterWong]

guys dont necro

[colbmista]

masterwong dont necro a necro pm them next time

[MasterWong]

sorry i didnt think of the spam factor when i said that

[Vilandra]

Its been a long time since ive done any Atlantis work, so ive decided to revive this thread and continue with my Atlantis model seeing as how ive got a new workstation on the way which should help with the rendering.

I dont plan on starting over, but rather reuse my old model and continue with it. This one will include the lower inner pier levels. (stardrive area) Once the new system gets here, ill start using VRayforC4D for rendering.

More to come later.

[Bar]

Very nice.
I certainly look forward to seeing your new progress!
Bar.

[Davide_sd]

very nice. I've never noticed all the different compared the old and new model of Atlantis. This thread it'll be very interesting. keep up the good work! :thumb:

[Vilandra]

Update. Its funny how after a year or so of not working with this model, I can go back and see a lot of mistakes and errors that I didnt know were there before. :lol:

[SGA-3D]

Wow! Looking great :)

I love the texture work going on.

[asddsa0147]

Nice textures indeed.:)

[markmassey]

Looking great, can't wait to see more.

[ANCIENT ATLANTEAN]

Amazing progress Vilandra!

[Atlantean]

Hey Vilandra! That new workstation is definetely paying off!

The city looks so much better. Congratulations. Great work :)

[Vilandra]

Hey Vilandra! That new workstation is definetely paying off!

The city looks so much better. Congratulations. Great work :)

Actually, I havent received the new workstation yet. It should be coming in this week. Im still using my old desktop... which is being pushed to its limit.

[azwebs]

Actually, I havent received the new workstation yet. It should be coming in this week. Im still using my old desktop... which is being pushed to its limit.

I can imagine. I once tried to render SGA-3D's Atlantis at full HD on a Celeron M 430 (single core 1.6Ghz)! Just did it for fun, but it didn't like me and left. Permenantly.

Looks good work so far, will you be releasing yours public too? If so, we'll have a massive selection of Atlantis' to choose from! Thanks for going to all this hard work.

[homerpalooza67]

Most people dont release their work here....too much piracy going on

[Atlantean]

Most people dont release their work here....too much piracy going on

Indeed. And Azwebs, Vilandra has said I think two thousand times that she won't release her mesh.
May I suggest you read the whole thread? ;-)

[Vilandra]

Indeed. And Azwebs, Vilandra has said I think two thousand times that she won't release her mesh.
May I suggest you read the whole thread? ;-)


Just to clearify, im a "he". :lol::D The name is rather confusing though....

[Vilandra]

Heres the old center tower. Im going to reuse it, but add more detail, clean up the mesh (there are a few errors) and re-texture the whole thing. I'll post another update tonight if I can get enough of it completed.

[Vilandra]

A little update on my tower. Most of this is new. The old one had too many errors to try and fix.

[Davide_sd]

very nice!

[hoktar]

looks really nice, keep it up!

[Katyko]

great work on the tower keep up the good work.

[Vilandra]

Just playing around with some lighting.

[Davide_sd]

cool render!

[Vilandra]

Moving on to other towers now.

[Davide_sd]

very nice tower!

how many poly has the old version?

[-=sAs=-]

Nice Re-worked Atlantis!:)

[Vilandra]

Thanks!

The previous version was 2.3 million poly's. From a distance off, it looked great, but up close, you could tell it needed a lot of work if I was planning on doing any closeups, so ive been replacing towers and buildings with new ones that have more detail and are more suitable for closeups.

I dont know what the poly count is right now. Ive got the entire city broken up in about 10 different sections. My current desktop cannot handle the complete city.... but I should have my new workstation this coming Monday or Tuesday!

[Davide_sd]

thank you for the answer! I'm sure it'll result a great city ;)

[Vilandra]

Is it just me, or was there a sudden outbreak of Atlantis fever? :D:lol:

Another update.

[Davide_sd]

Fabulous work Vilandra! :thumb:

i love to see different ways to realize atlantis...again, keep up the great work!

[SGA-3D]

Yay it worked :)

and it looks great :D

[Vilandra]

My new workstation arrived yesterday. What a huge improvement. Just to see what it would do, I rendered a short Atlantis animation using my old city (from a couple years ago). On my old desktop, it was going to take roughly 50 hours to render this short animation, however with my new machine, it only took 1 hour.

Keep in mind, this is my old city. Its not the one im working on now.

Video is 640x480 divx. I had to compress it, so you'll have to ignore the low quality.

[Melak]

Cool =)
What are the specs of your new workstation?

[Vilandra]

Cool =)
What are the specs of your new workstation?


Boxx "Special Edition"

Dual Intel Core2 Extreme Quad-Cores @ 4.0Ghz.... QX9775's
Intel D5400XS mobo
4 Gigs RAM
nVidia Quadro FX 1700
Liquid Cooled

I should be able to knock out a few Atlantis fly-throughs with it. :thumb:

[cavebear]

Video is 640x480 divx. I had to compress it, so you'll have to ignore the low quality.

Wish I could see it but I'm not able to. :(

[Davide_sd]

You have a super workstation!!!

[Alex Mcpherson]

here's a question that some of you may want to hit me for, but my only defense is that i honestly dont know and aren't a modeller myself - what makes the quadro better for doing 3d modelling than the geforce and vice-versa with games? always wondered that - i just had the idea "a graphics card is a graphics card, they're all the same cept some can do more than others hence 'faster' at doing the same thing as the older ones".

And yes, with the final thing, Slam in a PJ doing what shep did in "The Return" - dodging between buildings :D

[Vilandra]

@Alex, The Quadro cards are for pre-rendered stuff, and the GeForce cards are for post rendered stuff like games. Both can do 3D and gaming, but the Quadro's are designed to handle polys and CAD work.... to be honest, I think it has something to do with the drivers.


Heres an update on the city. Ive been busy lately so I havent done much.

[Davide_sd]

great render!!!

The main difference beetwen quadro and geforce cards are drivers. Both cards have basically the same hardware, but the quadro have different driver that allow those card to work in cad....

[SGA-3D]

Wow!

Your city is looking better than mine!

:)

[svobomil]

Very beautyfull

[homerpalooza67]

http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/party/party0031.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-unhappy-smileys.php)

[SGA Maddin]

amazing textures and details; very nice work!

[Vilandra]

Thanks for the kind words. Heres another update on the center section of the city coming in at 535,000 polys. Im almost done with this part.

[mikala]

Your patience and attention to detail is amazing.
Thanks for sharing the WIP.

[Dallidas]

looks amazing bro!

[Davide_sd]

great work! as always! :thumb:

[Vilandra]

Balcony time! The lighting kinda sucks, but you get the idea. I plan on shooting some green screen footage of me and my cousin, then place us on the balcony looking out... of course this will have to wait until ive completed the city.

[Davide_sd]

Excellent work. Awesome!!!

[Katyko]

great work here and your detailing is amazing keep it up

[Nutsy]

Ohh nice :D Maybe i should of put this level of detail into my atlantis

[Davide_sd]

Ohh nice :D Maybe i should of put this level of detail into my atlantis

atlantis version 2? if you'll do it, mgm will use your mesh in the atlantis movies.

[ANCIENT ATLANTEAN]

I love that you can see the Stargate from the baclony. Very nice.

[Vilandra]

Ive almost got the 3 larger piers completed. The 3 of them together come in a little over 1 million polys.

[Bar]

Excellent work. It really looks amazing!
Kudos!
Bar.

[Cameron Mitchell]

Very incredible work, Vilandra :D

[ANCIENT ATLANTEAN]

Awesome!

[Vilandra]

Heres some work on the smaller piers (which I havent shown yet). Should be good for close-ups.

[Dallidas]

thats crazy! I bet the real model doesnt even have that

[Davide_sd]

AWESOME! great level of details...

[ColJonesSG1]

Looks better than the real thing.:o good job:thumb:

[Alex Mcpherson]

those railings are a bit, big... arent they? those buildings are small if they aren't big.

[Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, it's AWESOME, but the opening with the railings, compared to the buildings which are closer to our point of view, are MUCH bigger than the buildings. If we are going to fit through the opening with the rail, we won't fit into the buildings, if we fit in the buildings, those rails are so tall they're unnecessary. Anyway, I do LOVE this model :D

[Vilandra]

Yes, the railing was a little off scale, but I have fixed it..... and added a person so you can see the scale. Most of whats in these last few renders are things ive made up. There are not any close up shots of these areas, so I had to be creative. :(

[Cameron Mitchell]

Brilliant :D

[SGA Maddin]

Oh god! This will be one of the best (or maybe the best) atlantis modell! I LOVE the textures and the details!

[gthompsn]

Good job. I don't think of Atlantis as being particularly large, just a place of awe because the tech was so far beyond our own....

[Davide_sd]

superb work, one of the best atlantis ever.

[Nutsy]

*crys* everyones doing better atlantis models than me :(

Nice work indeed :D

[utra]

amazing model and some very detail textures, im impressed. good job.

[Vilandra]

Thanks for the kind words guys. Im thinking about switching over to VRayforC4D as the rendering engine. I think it will provide the best, and most realistic results..... unless someone has an idea on how to light this.

[SGA-3D]

Great level of detail :)

My laptop would probably have a fit trying to handle this lol.

[hoktar]

this is so amazing!
what do you use to render and what program?

[Vilandra]

I use Cinema 4D, but I also have VRayforC4D which is the VRay rendering engine for Cinema 4D.

My machine is an 8-core Boxx workstation running at 4.0Ghz.

[Vilandra]

Here is some progress. Still trying to get the textures right. 400,594 polys for this pier.

[Cameron Mitchell]

This model is VERY well lit, I love it :)

[Davide_sd]

great work vilandra.
are you going to realize the small buildings with a great level of details, so you can take breathtaking shots?

[Vilandra]

@Davide_sd... Im going to try. :D

Here is an update. Im starting to put the sections together now. 2.7 million polys total. My machine is wanting to slow down, but it keeps up pretty well.

I think when it comes time to render this with VRayforC4D, I may have to switch over to XP 64bit. Im getting "out of memory" messages, and occasional crashes when trying to render.

[davidnevue]

ahhh this is C4D? If you need someone to do a max conversion let me know. I'd be more than happy.

[Davide_sd]

great render!

how many objects are currently in the scene?

[homerpalooza67]

Just make sure you model that beer fridge on the gateroom balcony...:D

[Cameron Mitchell]

Well done Vilandra, can't wait to see more :D

[limey]

That looks awesome! The level of detail on this is mind blowing!
One thing jumps out at me though. As you can see from this (http://www.jl-studios.co.uk/atlantis.jpg) picture, there are 2 bridge missing between the piers. Other than that, this is damn near perfect!

[shinigami123]

0.o looks awesome. but i'm having trouble getting official pictures of atlantis. this might be the 3rd version that is diff from each other that "are official." anywayz ye. ur missing the bridge between the piers.

[Vilandra]

That looks awesome! The level of detail on this is mind blowing!
One thing jumps out at me though. As you can see from this (http://www.jl-studios.co.uk/atlantis.jpg) picture, there are 2 bridge missing between the piers. Other than that, this is damn near perfect!


At the time, I had not started those sections yet. Here is a new shot showing progress with those areas.

[mikala]

Looking just too beautiful!
I thought the last one was fine but you are turning it up a notch (okay several) with this work!

[Cameron Mitchell]

Well done :D

[SGA Maddin]

The details are just great. The textures are looking very realistic. The light (at the windows) is very nice.

[Aresius]

Wow, that's just wonderful......

[Ze Aratloss]

Oh this is so good! i love the level of details and all the lighting. I think i saw the center tower under extension am i wrong. anyway it looks a thousand times better now with all the additions.

[Vilandra]

Ive been taking a break from this project, and now im back. I needed to start working on the environment (ocean), so here is what ill be working with. Im going to change a few things, and use another sky image, but you should get the idea.

I suppose I could make a small animation if anyone wants to see the waves in action.

[Dallidas]

dang! That looks nice! I'd love to see an animation

[Davide_sd]

we want to see the animation ;)
great waves!

[somacruz145]

Yeah I want to see it too :D They look very realistic so far !

[Vilandra]

Heres a quick animation. Its not final.

Video is Divx

[Phaser]

That is incredible! So many questions: What program did you use (I'm sure you've mentioned it somewhere, but I don't care to look through 21 pages to find out)? Did you use a tutorial to make that? If so, could you point us to it? Regardless, you've got amazing skills! Very nice job.

[Vilandra]

The ocean was done with a plugin called Add-The-Sea for Cinema 4D. Its good for creating waves, oceans, etc. Cinema 4D is lacking when it comes to simulating realistic oceans.

Im new to this plugin, so im still trying to figure out all of its features.

[hoktar]

Awsome!
Would you explain something about the shader and the lighting?
I am trying to create such a shader for years but never came even close to this. This is incredible!

[Davide_sd]

great work Vilandra ;) .

[Analyzer]

Yup.. great stuff.. i see LOTS of hours spent to bild city like this one!?

[Barroth]

hi, nice ocean and a good city, are there updates?

[Vilandra]

No updates as of right now. I have several projects im working on right now, but dont worry, ill be back to this soon because I finally shot some green screen footage to go with my atlantis scene.

[Puddle_Jumper]

you are going all the way with it, with is cool will make good for close ups and videos, should try and put some people on her 2

[Vilandra]

I finally got around to setting up Cinema 4D on my XP64 drive. Now I can use the 64 bit version to take advantage of the extra RAM I have... (seeing as how XP32 bit only see's up to 2 gigs of RAM)

Here is the latest update. I couldnt render the entire scene in XP32. It was giving "out of memory" errors, but now its rendering faster than before.

I still need to make an animation with this, so be patient those of you who want to see one. I will eventually do it. :D

[Dallidas]

damn thats great lookin vilandra. i wish i could play around with it!


where did you get a 64 bit version of xp? And would i need to upgrade my MoBo to use it?

[Vilandra]

In order to use a 64bit OS (like XP64 or Vista64) you will need a processor that supports 64bits. Most of the new dual and quad cores support it.

[Puddle_Jumper]

damn thats great lookin vilandra. i wish i could play around with it!


where did you get a 64 bit version of xp? And would i need to upgrade my MoBo to use it?

bought it from either Microsoft or a place like newegg.com oh you are better off with Vista home premium or better in 64bit manages memory 10x better

[XRaiderV1.7]

nice render.

[Vilandra]

Heres the latest update. My cousin and I shot some green screen footage a few days ago, so I used After Effects to pull the key, then placed him on the balcony. It still needs more color correction, etc, but you should get the idea.

Ive got more footage of me and him talking, so ill probably use that when I make the animation. Should be nice once it all comes together.

[ANCIENT ATLANTEAN]

This is going to be an amazing animation once you have all the components put together. Can't wait!

[Bridger]

One of the models i would kill to get :)

[hoktar]

Amazing!
Is that VRay and C4D now?

I would say it's not the color correction that should be tweaked but the light. The city's light does not match the greenscreen footage.

This is going to be awsome :)

[Vilandra]

@hoktar, yes, its the VRay bridge for Cinema 4D, however I only have the 32-bit version, and using it with the full model will not render completely because I run out of memory. It looks like I may have to look into upgrading to the new version that is 64-bit compatible so I can use it in XP64.


Here is the latest. Poly count will soon hit 2.9 million. Im just adding more detail at this point. :D It only took 55 seconds to render this HD image, so im sure an animation at a lower quality is doable. :thumb:

[Puddle_Jumper]

i swear this one looks better than the real studio model

[hoktar]

Great! Looks huuuge!

[Bridger]

this gets better and better

[SGA Maddin]

i swear this one looks better than the real studio model

Yes! I think that the lower buildings and some other Stuff aren´t so detailt at the studio model. Your City is just great! Amazing details! I´am realy looking forward for an animation! :)

[Dallidas]

Really lookin good there mate! My only complaint is lack of AA

[kretony]

Is this thread still alive? It's been months since this thread got updated. Did Vilandra stop working on his Atlantis?

[Vilandra]

My Atlantis has been temporarily put on hold. I was hired by a local studio and now I have little time to work on my own projects.

However..... I recently made a quick 5 second animation of my Atlantis.

You can check it out here on my youtube page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKDeb1g9sH0&feature=channel_page). Its in HD. (along with other VFX and 3D stuff ive done)

My biggest concern right now is creating the ocean. Once I can find a way of doing it, and can find some free time, ill get back to this project.

[Ze Aratloss]

I hate teasers like that butawesome job on it! You'll have to show us a full animation of thecity...you putso much workon itthatyoucan't just leave it tothat lol. Well we'll bewaiting fo more bud!

[Vilandra]

Heres the latest HD animation. Its hosted on youtube. I tried to upload the file here, but it wouldnt let me.

This 10 second animation took 20 hours to render on my machine.

1 infinite light with area shadows, and GI sky sampler.

Sorry, but theres no ocean or sky. Those will come later.


YouTube - Atlantis HD Animation 8/10/09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJE1-_ffow)

More to come later.

[homerpalooza67]

niiice! 8 cores AND 20 hours to render? Bravo!!! :thumb:

[Davide_sd]

Heres the latest HD animation. Its hosted on youtube. I tried to upload the file here, but it wouldnt let me.

This 10 second animation took 20 hours to render on my machine.

1 infinite light with area shadows, and GI sky sampler.

Sorry, but theres no ocean or sky. Those will come later.


YouTube - Atlantis HD Animation 8/10/09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJE1-_ffow)

More to come later.

Really nice animation and lighting.
I think 20 hours is too excessive time to render. Are you sure you coldn't modify some option?
About hte ocean and the sky, is there a way to add them in postwork, maybe with after effects?

[Vilandra]

niiice! 8 cores AND 20 hours to render? Bravo!!! :thumb:

Thanks. A more in depth description.....8 cores, 4.0Ghz, Windows 7 64bit.



Really nice animation and lighting.
I think 20 hours is too excessive time to render. Are you sure you couldn't modify some option?
About the ocean and the sky, is there a way to add them in postwork, maybe with after effects?

Yeah, 20 hours is a bit much, but I had global illumination turned on using Cinema 4D's "sky sampler". That is probably one reason why.

The sky can be easily done in C4D. I have a few panoramic 360° images that ill use. The ocean is going to be the hardest part. The main problem is creating a realistic material, with a properly blended horizon with slight haze.

I'll be experimenting with it some more when I get some time.

[kretony]

The videos are amazing!!!! Keep up the good work don't let ur Ultimate creation fade away!!!

[Vilandra]

Dont worry, it wont fade away. :D

I worked on it the other day. I just havent made any big progress with it to post a update.

Ive been playing around with some ideas for ice and snow (Antarctica scene) instead of the usual ocean.

[kretony]

I don't know how I didn't see it, but I noticed that in the episode Adrift in Season 4 two versions of the city are used simultaneously! The original city from season 1 (assuming Rainmaker) and the Atmosphere version. I wonder why that was, but it wasn't too noticeable.

[ZPB]

Vilandra, those animations are the most amazing thing I have ever seen. I followed this thread toward its beginning and was able to see your images. However now they no longer appear at all. Did you take them down or is the site messing up? I would love to see some still renders of your masterpiece, and possible an ortho or two. Your city if freakin awesome!!!!!!

[Vilandra]

Vilandra, those animations are the most amazing thing I have ever seen. I followed this thread toward its beginning and was able to see your images. However now they no longer appear at all. Did you take them down or is the site messing up? I would love to see some still renders of your masterpiece, and possible an ortho or two. Your city if freakin awesome!!!!!!

The images should still be there. I havent taken any of them down. Perhaps theres an issue with the site??

Ive been busy with work and havent had a chance to get back to this. Same with my Destiny model.

[ZPB]

It must have been the site because i see them now. Thanks

[Vilandra]

Just a little bit of a test. We just got the new VRay plugin for Cinema 4D (VRayforC4D) and I wanted to see how well it would work with my Atlantis model.

Unfortunately, VRay has its own material, so ive got to find some time to convert all my standard C4D material over to VRay. But in the meantime, heres a high res shot of the city untextured with a sun and physical sky.... and a somewhat quick and rough water material.

[Puddle_Jumper]

Atlantis class City Ship
Atlantean

Dimensions
Length 2,850m (9,348ft.)
With 2,850m (9,348ft.)
Height 950m (3,116ft.) 470 meeters centeral spire tip top to water
Speed
Max sub light 90 Psl.
Max Hyperdrive Interstellar 500 Lyph
Max Hyperdrive Intergalactic 10,000 Lyph
Defences
Trinium Hull/ Trinium Reinforced Concrete (buildings)
Alteran City ship/Ship Shields
Weapons
1,500,000 Drones Weapons
PuddleJumpers
Central tower 18
Underside 9
Transporters
Alteran Rings
Alteran Internal Transporters
Power
3 ZPMs full power (all ships of class)
Naqahdah Generators (Atlantis only)
MK1
MK2

this is from my ship specs sheets, its based on the rain maker atlantis!

[Vilandra]

Those specs are a little different than I recall.

Bruce Woloshyn once said that from sea level to the top of the center spire was around 335 meters.

[Puddle_Jumper]

the height is from the belly ie under water to the top of the ship ie top of center spire

[Puddle_Jumper]

ah yes i do now after looking agree my figers to be a tad large lol

i have edited the post with the corect figers, i think the ones i posted were of my older crop..

it took me a hour of looking a thinking to get this one figured out lol