3D Raw Greebles - Expanded [Archive]

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 03:29

At Brickheads request, I am posting this here as well...

I came up an idea for a totally different kind of greeble then Ive ever seen before. Instead of having flat greebles to slap against a flat surface, I started building complete 3D machine parts that be rotated and attached to each other sort of like legos. All fitting within a grid system.

Here are a few of the tests that I did in the early stages...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts01.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts05.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts06.jpg

and to keep the trek people happy... :D
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/StoneAgeConnie02.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/StoneAgeConnie05.jpg

Here is the most current test... (in this pic some of the pipe ends have been removed. I have designed the pack in such a way to make this easy without leaving a mess.)
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts08.jpg

And lastly Ive laid them out 1 by 1...
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts09.jpg

(the panel sections you see are perfectly sized to match the grid system. It was part of a secondary experiment to see if a ship could be built around the greebles. Turned out to be very poly intensive though.)

MaSaKaRi

29th Dec 2006, 03:41

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 03:45

Very interesting aproach to greebling. Sorta like Lego blocks, instead of the usual greeble "flat plates". It seems pretty easy to use those for engines components, or even industrial scenary.

Nice work! Are you developing more?

Thanx... And to answer your question... yes. As I get new ideas, I add them to the pack.

The real interesting feature of this setup is that by rotating any 1 greeble in a different direction, it looks very different, this makes it possible to reuse the same greeble over and over, with out it seeming too repetitive.

IRML

29th Dec 2006, 04:06

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts08.jpg

that one looks like a promising start for a borg cube

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 04:10

...
that one looks like a promising start for a borg cube

The possibilities are almost endless.... but Ive been there and done that already... sorta...

Thanx!
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/TheBorg.jpg

Jedilaw

29th Dec 2006, 05:07

Verrrry interesting. I was trying for something similar with the pipes set in my greeble pack. You've had more success. Is this project intended for public release?

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 05:15

Verrrry interesting. I was trying for something similar with the pipes set in my greeble pack. You've had more success. Is this project intended for public release?

The way that I accomplished it was by combining the pipe grid as part of the same object in each greeble. Most of these blocks of greebles were assembled in minutes, simply by selecting the face on a pipe end and duplicating it onto another pipe end.

I have already released it to a few select individuals for testing and such. Private release is definite, public... well, im still debating.

Road Warrior

29th Dec 2006, 05:57

All I gota say is "You da man!!!" Interesting

Jedilaw

29th Dec 2006, 07:21

The way that I accomplished it was by combining the pipe grid as part of the same object in each greeble. Most of these blocks of greebles were assembled in minutes, simply by selecting the face on a pipe end and duplicating it onto another pipe end.

I have already released it to a few select individuals for testing and such. Private release is definite, public... well, im still debating.

I hear you on that. Roughly 1,000 people have downloaded my greeble packs from here since the crash (and about another 500-600 prior to that, IIRC), and a unknown number have downloaded them from scifi3d and 3dpalace. I damned sure haven't seen 1,000 WIP threads using the greebles, and i've only run across 1 or 2 folks using them without credit. If you won't see people using them, what's the point of wide release? I seem to remember Fractalsponge having a similar opinion after the release of his ISD mesh.

Not that I'm saying don't release the greebs, but I can see why you might not.

Lee80

29th Dec 2006, 08:51

well you know I like it..:D

AldrikG

29th Dec 2006, 09:35

Very cool!

Your approach to the problem is SO clever, but at the same time, SO simple to use and extrapolate on. Makes me slap my forehead.

Outstanding! :thumb: :thumb:

PS

[QUOTE=Jedilaw;131938]If you won't see people using them, what's the point of wide release? I seem to remember Fractalsponge having a similar opinion after the release of his ISD mesh. [QUOTE]

As one of the downloaders (I downloaded an ISD mesh, but I can't honestly say who's it was) I feel the need to answer this...

When I first found this site, I was a noob. I didn't think I was, but after looking at some of the insane meshes here, I VERY quickly came to the realization that it was true. I downloaded the ISD not to render it, or use the mesh somehow, but to see what was possible. To see how other people made things. I learned a TON, just looking at the ISD mesh. Not only that, but it really helped me come to the conclusion that I could build much more detailed mesh than I had before.

Ack! I blab!

Reader's Digest version: Meshes that are heavily downloaded, but you don't see incorporated, or rendered, or otherwise used, could still be serving an important purpose.

Sorry for the discertation...

PSS Make your Greebles public and I WILL use 'em!

AG

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 14:25

Thanx all! Glad ya like...

As with most things I will have to weigh the pro's and con's of a public release. Until then, stay tuned ;)

Nutsy

29th Dec 2006, 14:46

Lol you freak :D Seriously nice geebling :D... I hate doing geebles so your a better man than me :p

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 15:17

Lol you freak :D ...

<looks at nutsy's avatar... hmmmm... eheh he said freak... ;)

Thanx bro... It can be tedious sometimes.

Elowan

29th Dec 2006, 16:11

jedilaw - I have been using your greebles and giving credit as well in my posts on LWG3D.

It's nice when folks do renders of your stuff but some DL things to study them and just to possess a work-of-art. I own several original artworks which I hang on my wall in my home - which home is private not public.

Chanur

29th Dec 2006, 16:27

Wow, great idea man!! :thumb:
I just wait for the first planets completely covered with machineparts ;)

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 16:38

Thanx guys...

Wow, great idea man!! :thumb:
I just wait for the first planets completely covered with machineparts ;)

Im just waiting for the supercomputers that can render that ^ :D

This was the closest I ever got though... (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/5/limit/views)

cobywan

29th Dec 2006, 16:51

I am very interested in this detailing approach. This would be a very powerfull resource to anyone trying to fill out RTF ships for Galactica shots.

Ozylot

29th Dec 2006, 17:58

Thanx! Another interesting feature about this set is that unlike flat greebles, these when used will have alot of depth to them.

Jedilaw

29th Dec 2006, 18:30

Thanx! Another interesting feature about this set is that unlike flat greebles, these when used will have alot of depth to them.

True, they will. Rendering them with raytracing engines is going to be a major bitch, though. Tons of nooks and crannies for light to bounce around in...

Sacred-Light

29th Dec 2006, 20:43

Very nice. Lovely idea, and like MaSaKaRi said, would extremely nice for engine components and industrial scenes. The greebles look really neat.

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 01:21

Thanx all!

True, they will. Rendering them with raytracing engines is going to be a major bitch, though. Tons of nooks and crannies for light to bounce around in...

Yeah, but that'll look so cool :D

Well here is the latest installment, newest greeble is the one on the far left... its also duplicated in the center too..
oh, and that odd shaped pipe is new too :shiner:

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts10.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts11.jpg

Brickhead

30th Dec 2006, 01:50

As I have said, brilliant work Bro.

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 02:15

Thanx BH!

Im planning to eventually build a ship to apply these onto for further testing.

Lord Erisu

30th Dec 2006, 02:21

Lovely stuff, maybe inspirational:)... I lack the motivation atm :D.

AldrikG

30th Dec 2006, 02:24

Very cool stuff!

My only comment would be that where the pipes hit the greebles looks a little odd. Maybe a connector on the greebles that hooked into the pipes (or each other) would help.

AG

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 02:40

Thanx all!

Very cool stuff!

My only comment would be that where the pipes hit the greebles looks a little odd. Maybe a connector on the greebles that hooked into the pipes (or each other) would help.

AG

Iv'e thought about this, unfortunately I dont think I can make that work and still have the pipe ends removable.

Tovette

30th Dec 2006, 03:01

That's awesome detail. I have no idea what it is. :shiner:

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 04:21

Thanx, im not quite sure what it is either, but it would probably look good incorporated into a spacecraft of some sort... :D

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 06:09

Yeah im just messing around now...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts12.jpg

Jedilaw

30th Dec 2006, 07:14

Thanx all!

Iv'e thought about this, unfortunately I dont think I can make that work and still have the pipe ends removable.

Well, once you finalize a particular combo, you can add the connectors, since you won't be removing the piping from that greeble again.

Really lovely greebles, dude, right up there with Coolhand's, Brickhead's and Fractalsponge's.

Pyrocitor

30th Dec 2006, 10:31

Wow, really cool idea :thumb:

How many poly's are each of the pieces averaging out to be.

Rendering them with raytracing engines is going to be a major bitch, though. Tons of nooks and crannies for light to bounce around in...

Yea, I don't even wana think how long some combinations would take to render with radiosity :eek:

Dallidas

30th Dec 2006, 17:44

damn bro! looks great!

ernesto

30th Dec 2006, 18:26

Super details. First I have thought it is an engine but now it looks like a big weapon. Nice work.

Ciao

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 18:27

Thanx all!

Well, once you finalize a particular combo, you can add the connectors, since you won't be removing the piping from that greeble again.

Really lovely greebles, dude, right up there with Coolhand's, Brickhead's and Fractalsponge's.

Wow :o very kind. thanx!
as to the connector thing, the only solution I can find right now is to make an extra cylinder around where the pipe connects to the greeble. That way if it is decided that it needs to be removed it will be easy enough to do.

Wow, really cool idea :thumb:

How many poly's are each of the pieces averaging out to be.
...

Im not sure just yet, but the file is really starting to lag wings, and that is with large sections hidden.

Jedilaw

30th Dec 2006, 18:34

Wow :o very kind. thanx!
as to the connector thing, the only solution I can find right now is to make an extra cylinder around where the pipe connects to the greeble. That way if it is decided that it needs to be removed it will be easy enough to do.

That was my thought, as far as the connector.

If Wings is lagging, try Blender (files move between the two pretty well). Blender can handle some very high poly counts without serious problems. And I believe the UI can be set to mimic Wings (it's been a while, so I may be wrong on that point).

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 18:45

That was my thought, as far as the connector.

If Wings is lagging, try Blender (files move between the two pretty well). Blender can handle some very high poly counts without serious problems. And I believe the UI can be set to mimic Wings (it's been a while, so I may be wrong on that point).

I may do that... only as a last resort though.

For now, im going to save each greeble into its own file, all in the same folder, so that only the ones that are needed at any one time can be easily imported. The final set will all be in one file though. Ive kinda gotten used to working on stuff in small sections at a time.

chrono

30th Dec 2006, 19:43

Why even swap packages? Just save a series of greebles in a single file!

If you need easy referencing then put all the greebles in a large(2400*1600) image to reference.

xanthra

30th Dec 2006, 19:57

I hear you on that. Roughly 1,000 people have downloaded my greeble packs from here since the crash (and about another 500-600 prior to that, IIRC), and a unknown number have downloaded them from scifi3d and 3dpalace. I damned sure haven't seen 1,000 WIP threads using the greebles, and i've only run across 1 or 2 folks using them without credit. If you won't see people using them, what's the point of wide release? I seem to remember Fractalsponge having a similar opinion after the release of his ISD mesh.

Not that I'm saying don't release the greebs, but I can see why you might not.

I've downloaded them and played with them a bit, but the stuff I've created so far hasn't been worthy of posting here. Just because you haven't seen much, doesn't mean that you haven't insipired people!

xanthra

30th Dec 2006, 20:07

I have already released it to a few select individuals for testing and such. Private release is definite, public... well, im still debating.

Please release it! Us newbies need all the help we can get : P
Also, did you do all this cool stuff in Wings3d ?!

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 20:19

Why even swap packages? Just save a series of greebles in a single file!

If you need easy referencing then put all the greebles in a large(2400*1600) image to reference.

Fortunately, each one is uniquely named.

Please release it! Us newbies need all the help we can get : P
Also, did you do all this cool stuff in Wings3d ?!

I am still considering a release. And yes... all modeling for this has been done in lil' ol' wings3D. :D

chrono

30th Dec 2006, 20:19

Please release it! Us newbies need all the help we can get : P
Also, did you do all this cool stuff in Wings3d ?!

Then ask for wireframe renders and not the owners works! :rolleyes:

Ozylot

30th Dec 2006, 22:06

This was another test. There are only 6 unique greebles being used in this picture.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts13.jpg
uh... jedilaw sorry bro... ^ I just had to try ;)

Kenetor

30th Dec 2006, 22:20

very impressive!
im gonna keep watching this one!

chrono

30th Dec 2006, 23:06

lol! Don't squint your eyes when you look at that!

Jedilaw

30th Dec 2006, 23:31

This was another test. There are only 6 unique greebles being used in this picture.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts13.jpg
uh... jedilaw sorry bro... ^ I just had to try ;)

No worries, mate! If I was just trying to greeble the ISD, and not make greebles that are accurate to the model, I'd be begging you for a copy of yours. 2/3 of the mesh would be done already.

Alas, I'm nuts enough to be trying for accuracy with one of the most complicated models ever put on film...

Ozylot

31st Dec 2006, 00:57

lol! Don't squint your eyes when you look at that!

Why is that? all I see is everything going fuzzy :shiner:

No worries, mate! If I was just trying to greeble the ISD, and not make greebles that are accurate to the model, I'd be begging you for a copy of yours. 2/3 of the mesh would be done already.

Alas, I'm nuts enough to be trying for accuracy with one of the most complicated models ever put on film...

Indeed... I couldn't even imagine trying to be that precise.

Blake7

31st Dec 2006, 23:42

About a year ago I started thinking about building a set of space ship parts so that they are modular like your greebles. I did some concept drawings and made a three models but never got time to build a full set like I wanted. :(

A friend of mine has developed a tool within a game engine that lets the user mix and match the parts so you can build your own ships like lego. We got it to the stage where we had three parts we could play with.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/806/3517/1600/HP-Concepts.jpg

Sugartooth

1st Jan 2007, 00:02

WOW! as a Wings user, im in awe of what you are pushing the program to do!!!! I'd love to get those greebles were you to release them! PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE!?!?!?!? ;)

chrono

1st Jan 2007, 00:31

I think that it SFM should BAN people for First Post requests, n00d beggars, for model release.

Glazy

1st Jan 2007, 00:50

I hate raw greebles,but put them under the grill on some toast and I love em !!!

Very nice work on these !!

NanoGator

1st Jan 2007, 01:51

Hrmm.. I think that tests proves one can overdo it. Heh .

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 02:59

Thanx all!

Its a fun project, and it seems like it can have a lot of potential.

I was talking to LR the other day and got the idea from him to build a set of interlocking catwalks, based on the same pipe grid system. Im planning on adapting these catwalks to fit onto the greeble system.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Catwalk01.jpg

Pyrocitor

1st Jan 2007, 05:47

I was talking to LR the other day and got the idea from him to build a set of interlocking catwalks, based on the same pipe grid system. Im planning on adapting these catwalks to fit onto the greeble system.

That is cool. There's actually a ton of things you could set up with a grid system like this, tunnels, passageways, etc. You could probably even build whole interiors of ships like this.
Have a number of passageway parts with doors, a few rooms with interchangeable room accesories, several different control panels. And viola, instant ship interior.

The posibilities are endless...

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 05:55

That is cool. There's actually a ton of things you could set up with a grid system like this, tunnels, passageways, etc. You could probably even build whole interiors of ships like this.
Have a number of passageway parts with doors, a few rooms with interchangeable room accesories, several different control panels. And viola, instant ship interior.

The posibilities are endless...

I actually have a hallway system that I haven't shown yet, with rooms ladders and elevators. Its not designed to go with this though.

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 06:21

Ok, well, Ive implemented 4 new greebles.

These ones are what I call connector plates. they span 2 pipe ends and can even be placed between greebles without altering alignments. Its becoming apparent with each new greeble that is added, that some serious thought should go into the placement of each new one. The ultimate goal being to reduce repeating patterns as much as possible.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts14.jpg

Lee80

1st Jan 2007, 09:56

impressive... but can i have the grill to my jeep back...

ernesto

1st Jan 2007, 12:01

Oh my god, what for a gigantic work!

Ciao

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 14:28

impressive... but can i have the grill to my jeep back...

No... im not done with it yet :p

Thanx!

Oh my god, what for a gigantic work!

Ciao

Thanx! Its cool cause that last pic only took about 10 minutes to assemble.

The Dyslexic One

1st Jan 2007, 15:38

Nice greebles!!!

The last pic only took about 10 minutes to assemble? Wow, the power that gives!

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 16:49

Thanx! that is one of the real attractions to this system, is that its quick to implement.

Lord Erisu

1st Jan 2007, 16:51

I'm starting to drool. I bow down to the God Ozylot.

Ronin

1st Jan 2007, 17:31

great work indeed.

which application are you using ? - and how do you connect the Greebles. I assume that you are not rotating/grabbing them simply around and rotate until the fit...some kind of self-orientation in there?

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 17:43

Thanx all!

great work indeed.

which application are you using ? - and how do you connect the Greebles. I assume that you are not rotating/grabbing them simply around and rotate until the fit...some kind of self-orientation in there?

Im using wings3D (www.wings3d.com) It has a function called 'put on'

I select the face (poly) on a pipe end of which greeble I want to use.
Click 'put on' (left click moves the greeble, right click duplicates the greeble)

im then asked to select another face.
If im duplicating I can select several pipe ends, otherwise I just select 1.

Once my selection is chosen, I right click again to activate the procedure.
The entire greeble object is moved (or duplicated) onto the selected face(s). Its also rotated to match the selected face.

in order to do simpler rotations, I can move a single greeble around a few times till I find the rotation I want. (all the pipe ends are at 90 degree increments.)

Sugartooth

1st Jan 2007, 23:09

I think that it SFM should BAN people for First Post requests, n00d beggars, for model release.

Choice welcome, so let me see if I understand how the forums work, you get one award for a mediocre modelling attempt and then you get your official SFM Smacktard Mouthpiece of Forum Bigotry License? Perhaps I spend more time modelling than posting in these forums? Maybe I found these forums linked from another source and registered so I could view all the nice little model things you SFM forumers make?

Considering the semi-elitist replies you give to presumed 'new people', maybe it is YOU should be banned for not contributing anything worth reading other than useless insulting banter directed at someone whom you know the square root of **** all about, hmm?

I'll erase my own account now thank you, wouldn't want to perhaps taint the "l33tg3|\|3p00|_" around the premises.

xanthra

1st Jan 2007, 23:36

I think that it SFM should BAN people for First Post requests, n00d beggars, for model release.

"n00d beggars" That's just too funny! I propose we ban people who can't find the edit button :devil:

Ozylot

1st Jan 2007, 23:45

Choice welcome, so let me see if I understand how the forums work, you get one award for a mediocre modelling attempt and then you get your official SFM Smacktard Mouthpiece of Forum Bigotry License? Perhaps I spend more time modelling than posting in these forums? Maybe I found these forums linked from another source and registered so I could view all the nice little model things you SFM forumers make?

Considering the semi-elitist replies you give to presumed 'new people', maybe it is YOU should be banned for not contributing anything worth reading other than useless insulting banter directed at someone whom you know the square root of **** all about, hmm?

I'll erase my own account now thank you, wouldn't want to perhaps taint the "l33tg3|\|3p00|_" around the premises.

Constant mesh release requests are a touchy subject around here. Ultimately it is up to the thread starter (in this case... me) weather or not a mesh will be released, when and in what form. In most cases it is often best to read the entire thread, (however long it may be.) to see what the authors plans for it are.

In the past there have been different members who will 'beg' for meshes. There constant requests have almost led to the loss of some fine artists who do contribute great content to the community.

That sort of situation is not needed, nor desired.

Sugartooth

2nd Jan 2007, 00:07

I complimented you on your forethought and ingenuity, and wished that i may be able to use them at some point, and jokingly placed a request. I do not EXPECT, nor REQUIRE you to release anything, i only expressed my wish that i may some day be able to put something as nice as what you are doing to work for myself, for my own designs{of course always with credit}. Had i had such an overwhelming NEED of getting these from you, i would have PMed you , and not posted anything.

For anyone HERE to assume any newcomer would ultimately know any of what you have stated above, is ludicrous, and to attack without provocation without explanation, is also assinign.

I Beg for nothing, release them if you will, or dont, i dont really care either way. I like what you have done and there it will stand, but i will not under ANY circumstance be attacked for no reason and not defend myself, verbal, physical or otherwise.
I ALWAYS read your threads, since we use the same program, so it is of great interest to me. Your mothership is impressive enough coming from WINGS, let alone ANY other program, to interest anyone using WINGS3d.

Incidentally, my register date, is NOT the date of my joining this forum. it is when i REREGISTERED. To assume anything is utterly stupid...

In any case, nice greebs. And I truly admire what you are doing with Wings. There are numerous, needlessly complicated programs out there, and not enough people who have reaped the benefits of such a userfriendly, open-source program, in my opinion.

That is all.

ghoyle1

2nd Jan 2007, 00:28

Ozylot, your 3D Greeble kit is magnificent. Based on what I've seen here, I'd gladly pay for it. I hope you do decide to release it in some form or another, I'd gladly credit you for them.

Jedilaw, I'm one of the ones that has downloaded your greeble freebies, and I'm very impressed with those, as well. I'll do my best to include them in some renders soon. Your generosity in sharing them is much appreciated.

I have been attempting to create some greebles of my own, with limited success. Since greebles are such an important part of sci fi design, is there someplace I can go for information on greebling?

Guy

Dallidas

2nd Jan 2007, 00:39

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 00:45

Thanx guys.

Most likely there will be an eventual release but it will definitely require patience.

Ozylot, your 3D Greeble kit is magnificent. Based on what I've seen here, I'd gladly pay for it. I hope you do decide to release it in some form or another, I'd gladly credit you for them.

Jedilaw, I'm one of the ones that has downloaded your greeble freebies, and I'm very impressed with those, as well. I'll do my best to include them in some renders soon. Your generosity in sharing them is much appreciated.

I have been attempting to create some greebles of my own, with limited success. Since greebles are such an important part of sci fi design, is there someplace I can go for information on greebling?

Guy

I did come across a site once that was helpful, but I cant seem to find it again.

Greebling is a tricky thing sometimes... there are different techniques that are used to generate surface detail. With some of these I have turned to automotive parts for inspiration. Most are combinations of simple stuff such as gas tanks, pipes, radiators, vents, pistons and conduits.

Another trick is to look close at a greebled model, and try and pic out 1 greeble, and try to come up with a similar shape.

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 00:48

stare a picture of a star destroyer.:lol: but really, any shape can be a greeble. you just have to break it down into the basics shapes(squares circles)

Didn't I tell you that once? ;)

love what your doing ozy. i dont fully understand the grid aspect, but thats from not really reading it all.

I will be posting a picture that will explain that better ;)

Greebling does require a slightly warped mind....
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts15.jpg
:shiner:

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 01:15

To help explain how the system works, here is a little wireframe render of one of the newer pieces. The selected area is the actual pipe grid system that makes the whole thing work.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachinePartsWire.gif

JeffrySG

2nd Jan 2007, 01:46

Ozylot: These all look GREAT!!! very cool idea, but even better is the fact you actually did so much actual work on it and that it all looks so good!!:thumb: :thumb:

This reminds me of many of the systems that I use at work for the exhibit design industry... You could even start to create some ship segments or panels that work with the system to create an entire ship.

OR (get this)

What if there was a base grid / template and then everyone could create a part or two and upload them all to the system here. So in the end we all had access to a few hundred parts that all work together. We could then have a challenge to see who could come up with the best ship only using the existing parts...

anyway... great job!! :)
Jeff

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 02:02

Kadaeux

2nd Jan 2007, 03:13

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 03:57

Heya Ozy mate, how on earth have I only just found this....

Great work as always, these Greebles are awesome mate, i'm tempted to try it myself but I have no idea how such a system would translate to 3ds Max 8... If at all. I'll just have to see what I can do...

Thanx bro! If you to try yourself, I would be interested to know how it works. :thumb:

Anyway.... another construct...

Here is a prime example of how greebles are for more then just space ships :D

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts17a.jpg

Dallidas

2nd Jan 2007, 04:00

:lol: i love it!

Kadaeux

2nd Jan 2007, 05:05

Oh gods no, now i'm going to see those things cropping up everywhere!!!!

;) Sweet work! Sort of like this. Tyrannis, Huge walking castle. NOT MADE BY ME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ5n9ZrYuHs)

And i'll let you know how my greebling effort goes.

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 05:21

Thanx guys!

Kadeaux: thats crazy!! :lol:

Sorry folks... I had to try a bigger render...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts18a.jpg

Lee80

2nd Jan 2007, 05:37

thats pretty cool...

Dallidas

2nd Jan 2007, 06:00

Thanx guys!

Kadeaux: thats crazy!! :lol:

Sorry folks... I had to try a bigger render...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts18a.jpg

thats not very BIG

Kadaeux

2nd Jan 2007, 06:38

thats not very BIG

You sound jelous :flippy: :D ,,,,.... effin words I don't use often,...

Nice render, the joins are much clearer, is it animatable though?

Lord Erisu

2nd Jan 2007, 06:56

Awesome stuff, God Ozylot. Nice to know some of the places you get inspiration from too :D

DarkSapiens

2nd Jan 2007, 12:24

LOL! I like it!

Haha, very nice robot. How much time did it take to be built? :D

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 12:44

thats not very BIG

I can try even bigger :p

You sound jelous :flippy: :D ,,,,.... effin words I don't use often,...

Nice render, the joins are much clearer, is it animatable though?

Not at the moment, but with a bit of work it is quite possible.

Awesome stuff, God Ozylot. Nice to know some of the places you get inspiration from too :D

Everywhere. ;)

LOL! I like it!

Haha, very nice robot. How much time did it take to be built? :D

This one I had to put a bit more thought into, about 20 minutes to put it all together.

Thanx guys!

The B5 Fan

2nd Jan 2007, 12:55

Are you TRYING to make me look even worse?:(

:D :D

Elowan

2nd Jan 2007, 13:50

In the past there have been different members who will 'beg' for meshes.

Baksheesh! Baksheesh!:p

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 16:23

Are you TRYING to make me look even worse?:(

:D :D

Not in the least, I just hope I've inspired you to do more cool stuff ;)

Baksheesh! Baksheesh!:p

I wasn't referring to you in that statement. :thumb:

The B5 Fan

2nd Jan 2007, 16:40

Not in the least, I just hope I've inspired you to do more cool stuff ;)

Given that my PC would crash if I tried to do any of this, mostly I just end up crying in a corner.:D

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 19:33

Given that my PC would crash if I tried to do any of this, mostly I just end up crying in a corner.:D

yeah, wings doesn't handle some of these constructs very well. I experience alot of lag as the larger ones are finalized.

Mex

2nd Jan 2007, 22:10

I never thought that greebles can do something like that! Ozy that's awsome, but i still dont like greebles^^

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 22:27

I never thought that greebles can do something like that! Ozy that's awsome, but i still dont like greebles^^

Well... as glazy says, they do taste better cooked ;)

and typically I don't like using pre-made greebles, as I have found them to be a bit limited. Since I started this project though, the possibilities it opens up are phenomenal.

Glazy

2nd Jan 2007, 22:48

Well... as glazy says, they do taste better cooked ;)

and typically I don't like using pre-made greebles, as I have found them to be a bit limited. Since I started this project though, the possibilities it opens up are phenomenal.

Yeah,use these raw you'll be ****ting through the eye of a needle,best grill em or bake em !

Kenetor

2nd Jan 2007, 23:12

i just realised i was doing the same thing back a few summers ago with my corridor system, i made corners, t sections, cross sections, door sections, ill have to drag up my old thread and see if i can improve on it at all.

and im loving the robot!

Kenetor

Ozylot

2nd Jan 2007, 23:54

Yeah,use these raw you'll be ****ting through the eye of a needle,best grill em or bake em !

I hate it when that happens... ;)

i just realised i was doing the same thing back a few summers ago with my corridor system, i made corners, t sections, cross sections, door sections, ill have to drag up my old thread and see if i can improve on it at all.

and im loving the robot!

Kenetor

That would be cool ^... and thanx!

Small update:

Added a couple new details to some of the older ones. I also built that little round one near the left, It is a ring that can go between pipe sections. So far this is the whole set...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts21.jpg

Dallidas

3rd Jan 2007, 00:10

so what are the green shapes?

Lee80

3rd Jan 2007, 01:12

those are hull panels... i think..

Ozylot

3rd Jan 2007, 03:27

so what are the green shapes?

Yes, those are indeed hull panels. They are perfectly sized to match the grid system. They can be used to build a hull around the greebles. but that is a totally different kind of challenge.

BTW folks, here is another construct, I had to pause it briefly during the render, guess that caused some sort of glitch in the render.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts19.jpg

Infinity238

3rd Jan 2007, 04:01

Neat, I beat that would make an interesting looking borg ship. :)

Ozylot

3rd Jan 2007, 04:59

Neat, I beat that would make an interesting looking borg ship. :)

Possibly... If I could handle that many of them at a time. ;)

Lee80

3rd Jan 2007, 05:36

very interesting...

The B5 Fan

3rd Jan 2007, 06:58

Put a glass cover over them.

Kadaeux

3rd Jan 2007, 09:11

Great work mate, is the format workable with 3ds Max??

Mex

3rd Jan 2007, 09:42

Ozy stop it! you're makin me to convert to like greebles! :D

Ozylot

3rd Jan 2007, 13:11

Put a glass cover over them.

Huh? why?

Great work mate, is the format workable with 3ds Max??

I can export to 3ds, however, I believe the groupings will be lost, I think I can fix that though.

Ozy stop it! you're makin me to convert to like greebles! :D

one person at a time... ;)

Thanx guys!

DarkSapiens

3rd Jan 2007, 13:27

So far this is the whole set...

That's all??? :o

There seems to be a lot more parts when they're assembled... :eek:
So I think that means the objective is fully achieved: building a lot of different things with just some pieces, and avoiding repetitive patterns. Good work *applause*

:thumb:

Ozylot

3rd Jan 2007, 13:33

That's all??? :o

There seems to be a lot more parts when they're assembled... :eek:
So I think that means the objective is fully achieved: building a lot of different things with just some pieces, and avoiding repetitive patterns. Good work *applause*

:thumb:

Thanx bro! The effect is a achieved by careful assembly, and by making the greebles have a distinct look from different angles.

Jedilaw

3rd Jan 2007, 14:08

Ozy stop it! you're makin me to convert to like greebles! :D

Wait, you mean . . . you don't already?!? back to the Trek WIP threads with you! :devil: :lol: :D

Starship

3rd Jan 2007, 14:36

Thanx all!
Im using wings3D (www.wings3d.com) It has a function called 'put on'
I select the face (poly) on a pipe end of which greeble I want to use.
Click 'put on' (left click moves the greeble, right click duplicates the greeble)
im then asked to select another face.
If im duplicating I can select several pipe ends, otherwise I just select 1.
...

First of all:

APPLAUSES FOR OZYLOT !!! Let me say this is a brilliant work !

About the post quoted above, you can reproduce this in max using the align and mirror tools. ;)

As other members said, I hate doing greebles too, but you´re converting me... It makes any mesh much more real !!

Loooooong time ago I had the idea of making bigger, basic pieces of a ship as a kit (like CUBE 3D does), but never did serious work about this. I was thinking about to place these pieces as standard primitives in max, like some sort of library. Maybe sometime... :)

Ozy, congrats !! You´re one the most creative artists from SFM. You stands with Jedilaw, Madkoifish, Coolhand, Ebolli and others. Really an inspiration for us.

Keep doing the great work !

Ozylot

3rd Jan 2007, 18:42

Thanx Starship, thats very kind. If everyone likes this so much, I may do a 2nd one... :shiner:

Oh good grief... what'd I just say! :o

Jedilaw: LOL :lol:

Ronin

3rd Jan 2007, 20:13

Ozylot

3rd Jan 2007, 20:19

i fear there is no way to use this in blender. But i'll try around with some Blender scripting to add Greebles.

isn't it much work reducing Polycount when using your greebles, instead of creating some for limitted Angle / View ?

Let me know what you find in blender, im curious to know.

That is one of the drawbacks to this system, is that the poly count adds up very quickly.

efritsch

3rd Jan 2007, 23:02

I hope that you plan on releasing these greebles for download. They are very, very cool. I can think of lots of things to do with them already but I'm using Max as well.

Ozylot

4th Jan 2007, 00:18

I hope that you plan on releasing these greebles for download. They are very, very cool. I can think of lots of things to do with them already but I'm using Max as well.

I will be, its just a matter of when and how. There are alot of things these can do. I think I can make them work with max. I'll have to do some testing.

Jedilaw

4th Jan 2007, 01:11

That is one of the drawbacks to this system, is that the poly count adds up very quickly.

What's a few million polys between friends? :lol:

Fractalsponge's Star Destroyer is about 1.7 million, and the "hero" version of the new Galactica is about 6 million, IIRC. If your count is adding up, you're just that much closer to real pro-level work.

Ozylot

4th Jan 2007, 01:21

What's a few million polys between friends? :lol:

Fractalsponge's Star Destroyer is about 1.7 million, and the "hero" version of the new Galactica is about 6 million, IIRC. If your count is adding up, you're just that much closer to real pro-level work.

I am no longer going to complain about poly count!! :thumb:

Elowan

4th Jan 2007, 15:57

Ozy - you are quite mad - which is why I like your work. Keep it up. If you do a Max version it should be easy enough for me to convert it to LW format. Might be better to do a version in .obj format but I bow to your final decision(s).

Ozylot

4th Jan 2007, 16:32

Wings exports stuff pretty good. I usually export to OBJ for import into bryce and it seems to work perfect every time. obj also seems to keep the smoothing data. Which seems to be lost when I export to 3ds.

and thanx!

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 04:05

Well, I got a little bit side tracked, but I got my little greeble builder helping me out now...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Mech07b.jpg

Lee80

5th Jan 2007, 05:01

Lookin good Bro!

JeffrySG

5th Jan 2007, 05:21

looking amazing!!!! I love the look of all the combinations you are getting with only a few parts...

Road Warrior

5th Jan 2007, 05:34

Awsome- I wish I could do stuff like that. Any pointers on tubing and wiring in bryce. I am able to do some limited things but too constraining...

Jedilaw

5th Jan 2007, 05:56

Great stuff...but can yours destroy a planet?

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 05:57

Thanx everyone!

Awsome- I wish I could do stuff like that. Any pointers on tubing and wiring in bryce. I am able to do some limited things but too constraining...

Pipes are probably one of the hardest things to do in bryce. Only way I know to do it is with booleaning the **** out of toruses. there was a way I saw once using a string of combined metaballs... I don't quite recall how it was done though.

Wings3d is pretty good at doing pipes. I posted a tutorial on how to do it in the tutorials section.

BTW here is another angle...
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Mech08b.jpg

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 05:59

Great stuff...but can yours destroy a planet?

:p I only use my powers for good. With great power comes great responsibility and all that... ;)

Road Warrior

5th Jan 2007, 06:01

Hey thanks-I will check that out

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 06:23

Hey thanks-I will check that out

No problem, Im glad to help. Check your PM's I sent you a link to it.

Morpheus

5th Jan 2007, 06:37

Amazing work, how do you sort all the object in Wings since it doesn't have any layers feature.

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 06:52

Amazing work, how do you sort all the object in Wings since it doesn't have any layers feature.

I make very good use of the geometry graph (in one of the menus at the top.)

Ive also used a naming scheme on each object as well. and when neccesarry I hide parts of the mesh that i am not working with to help lower lag.

Choo1701

5th Jan 2007, 06:59

:p I only use my powers for good. With great power comes great responsibility and all that... ;)

and with great power comes the urge to make those b*stards pay!!! its the spiderman/batman thing, trust me. :devil:

amazing woek Ozy :thumb: suburb idea and i feel its going to help a lot of people with their modeling :D

Dallidas

5th Jan 2007, 07:31

damn, thats awesome ozy. is the robot thing attached? i cant tell

Lord Erisu

5th Jan 2007, 08:10

With Great Power Comes Great Explosions.

Awesome work with those greebles, Lord Ozylot.

hehehaha-ha

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 14:56

and with great power comes the urge to make those b*stards pay!!! its the spiderman/batman thing, trust me. :devil:

amazing woek Ozy :thumb: suburb idea and i feel its going to help a lot of people with their modeling :D

Thanx bro. You may be right on that considering the interest.

damn, thats awesome ozy. is the robot thing attached? i cant tell

No he's not actually attached, just posed really close.

With Great Power Comes Great Explosions.

Awesome work with those greebles, Lord Ozylot.

hehehaha-ha

Explosions? Thanx... I think. ;)

Lord Erisu

5th Jan 2007, 16:14

I love a big bang... Pretty Colours :D

JDR

5th Jan 2007, 17:02

:p I only use my powers for good.

You fool! Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb!

Ronin

5th Jan 2007, 19:21

i just made a small blender Script to extend the given Greeble-Functions / scripts in Blender, is it possible to get some of your greebles to test it ?

i'm placing Greebles randomly choosen, even oriented, one per face. sadly there is no option in blender like the one you are using to place them.

Ozylot

5th Jan 2007, 19:25

Dallidas

5th Jan 2007, 19:40

Ozylot

2nd Feb 2007, 00:02

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls... at long last.... its here. (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/meshes/index.php?dlid=150)

Kenetor

2nd Feb 2007, 00:50

OOoooOOOoOOOo a release!, nice one dude, i dont think i could make some of the original stuff you have with these though but im sure they will come in handy at some point,
thank you

Kenetor

Ozylot

2nd Feb 2007, 01:57

Thanx... im sure there will be some out there who will be able to do much more then I have with them. Simply because I am limited by software. Wings3D can't handle constructs beyond a certain size.

I Will enjoy seeing what others do with them.

Dallidas

2nd Feb 2007, 03:32

Elowan

2nd Feb 2007, 14:51

Right on time too! I can use some of these on my version of the SG1 Aurora - aka Ancient Ship. Thnx!! :)

Forcemaster2000

2nd Feb 2007, 17:31

Great work Ozylot! And thanks for releasing this! I cut everything apart and put each piece in a library I've lovingly named Ozylot's greebles! Can't wait to mess around with them. I'll definitely do something over the next month or so, so that you'll know your release wasn't in vain! :)

Ozylot

2nd Feb 2007, 23:12

*cough* switch to blender *cough* :D

*cough* not likely *cough*

seriously... after messing with it a bunch... i still cant stand it.

Thanx all, Im glad you like. I look forward to seeing what people do with them.

Dann-O

3rd Feb 2007, 13:34

Cool work and an interesting concept on how to make mechanical stuff. Now I will work up an organic greebling system of slabs of meat and bones. eyeballs and the like.

elitewolverine

3rd Feb 2007, 14:45

i fear there is no way to use this in blender. But i'll try around with some Blender scripting to add Greebles.

isn't it much work reducing Polycount when using your greebles, instead of creating some for limitted Angle / View ?

i didnt follow the whole thread, but this post caught my attention, what do you mean this work cannot be reproduced in blender? or use in blender?

as long as its a format blender can understand obj lwo 3ds etc etc...

Ozylot

3rd Feb 2007, 14:49

Thanx Dann-O.

Cool idea, sounds challenging.

elitewolverine

3rd Feb 2007, 14:51

*cough* not likely *cough*

seriously... after messing with it a bunch... i still cant stand it.

Thanx all, Im glad you like. I look forward to seeing what people do with them.

and me the opposite, i have max 5 6 7, lightwave 8, and blender, and every single time i go back to blender within a heart beat.

i just find it to easy in blender, hold one hand on the mouse the other hand on the keyboard and 90% of the things you will do in blender will never require your hands to move anywhere else...but i am still trying to teach myself lightwave abit as in the fall, the modeling animation class here uses lightwave...

plus i oddly find that blender produces "cleaner" meshes or it may just be the modeling style of certain people compared to how i model things

but to each his own, cause i know blender to some might feel like a alien planet just the way lightwave does to me...

and great work, its interesting to see raw greebles arranged to different things, reminds me of how studio models are produced on limited budgets ie starwars models using lots of same greebles on ships

Ozylot

3rd Feb 2007, 14:51

i didnt follow the whole thread, but this post caught my attention, what do you mean this work cannot be reproduced in blender? or use in blender?

as long as its a format blender can understand obj lwo 3ds etc etc...

They will import into blender. the difficulty is in attaching them together. Wings3D has a very powerful feature that lets the pieces be connected instantly.

Another way that it can be done though is to set up a grid. Almost all the greebles fit into blocks. Thus they can be precision placed by coordinates of equal amounts.

Ozylot

3rd Feb 2007, 14:54

and me the opposite, i have max 5 6 7, lightwave 8, and blender, and every single time i go back to blender within a heart beat.

i just find it to easy in blender, hold one hand on the mouse the other hand on the keyboard and 90% of the things you will do in blender will never require your hands to move anywhere else...but i am still trying to teach myself lightwave abit as in the fall, the modeling animation class here uses lightwave...

plus i oddly find that blender produces "cleaner" meshes or it may just be the modeling style of certain people compared to how i model things

but to each his own, cause i know blender to some might feel like a alien planet just the way lightwave does to me...

and great work, its interesting to see raw greebles arranged to different things, reminds me of how studio models are produced on limited budgets ie starwars models using lots of same greebles on ships

I work the same way in wings. one hand on keyboard, and other on mouse.

every command in wings is a right click away or a keystroke. And thanx. I've had a lot of fun making these. There may be another set off in the future too.

elitewolverine

3rd Feb 2007, 14:56

They will import into blender. the difficulty is in attaching them together. Wings3D has a very powerful feature that lets the pieces be connected instantly.

Another way that it can be done though is to set up a grid. Almost all the greebles fit into blocks. Thus they can be precision placed by coordinates of equal amounts.

almost sounds like using the crtl-c in blender duing object mode, or the n-key for objects properties and aligning it to the grid, or precise cordinates...or simply select a face on one object hit ctrl-c select, "cursor to select", then go to the other object and press again ctrl-c and just select the object to cursor...heck with that you can put any object center at any face on any greeble...

hmmmm, guess i gotta see what wings3D does, in terms of connected instantly, compared to my way of thinking in blender with the snap idea

Ozylot

3rd Feb 2007, 15:08

Im using wings3D (www.wings3d.com) It has a function called 'put on'

I select the face (poly) on a pipe end of which greeble I want to use.
Click 'put on' (left click moves the greeble, right click duplicates the greeble)

im then asked to select another face.
If im duplicating I can select several pipe ends, otherwise I just select 1.

Once my selection is chosen, I right click again to activate the procedure.
The entire greeble object is moved (or duplicated) onto the selected face(s). Its also rotated to match the selected face.

in order to do simpler rotations, I can move a single greeble around a few times till I find the rotation I want. (all the pipe ends are at 90 degree increments.)

Its pretty much that simple ^

elitewolverine

3rd Feb 2007, 15:24

Its pretty much that simple ^

oh sweet same thing blender does...

on the object i am moving, i would select it, go to edit mode, select the face i want attaching, go into object mode with a simple tab hit, and select center to cursor in the editing window area...

then select the object i want it attatched to, hit tab, select the face, hit ctrl-c select cursor to selection...go back to object mode, select my other one and hit ctrl-c and select, selection to cursor option...

the object is then moved to the face i wanted...although it doesnt do rotation on a simple snap, just hit the r button and it will rotate any way you want...and then duplicating it is just as simple

i would select it, hit tab, put my curso on the center where i am going to duplicate in a cirlce, and then hit spin or spin dump depending on what in want, and it duplicates it...or duplicate it in a straight line, or just hit ctrl-d and select the face as above...

almost the same idea, in fact i use the snap method tons in my carrier ship for moving objects to select locations on a different objects face or faces etc...and i use the extrude dup to make straight fans or pipes duplicated by a certain increment in a straight line in any direction...

sounds like i could get used to wings, as a secondary app though

Starship

3rd Feb 2007, 18:47

Just to say THANKS !! BIG THANKS !!! ;)

Ozylot

3rd Feb 2007, 19:43

Your welcome...

Now lets see some pics! :D

BorgMan

13th Apr 2007, 11:04

I think I'm going to give this one a go too. Even if I'm only are going to use it as a basis of my own greebles ;)

Ozylot

14th Apr 2007, 01:45

I think I'm going to give this one a go too. Even if I'm only are going to use it as a basis of my own greebles ;)

Pics!! :D

Cool, well whatever you do... I wanna see some pics ;)

Ozylot

17th Oct 2007, 19:21

And just when you thought this thread had gone the happy-thread-ever-after...

an update!

I was messing around and decided to do an expander pack for this... a new pipe set...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts26.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts26.jpg)

...and a set of catwalks that fit onto the system.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Side%20projects/th_HyperCore05.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Side%20projects/HyperCore05.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Side%20projects/th_HyperCore04.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/Side%20projects/HyperCore04.jpg)

Dimitriy

17th Oct 2007, 19:44

DUDE...make this available or ELSE!

Brickhead

17th Oct 2007, 19:56

Very impressive and well done.

Road Warrior

17th Oct 2007, 20:13

:o:thumb:

Ozylot

17th Oct 2007, 20:25

DUDE...make this available or ELSE!

or what? :flippy:

besides... its not done yet.

Thanx guys!

Shadowman99

17th Oct 2007, 20:29

This is very cool! So will there be a selection of terminator greebles to put on top of the stubs?

Andrew March

17th Oct 2007, 20:40

Oooh, very groovy

Ozylot

17th Oct 2007, 21:04

This is very cool! So will there be a selection of terminator greebles to put on top of the stubs?

There already is. Plus the stubs can be collapsed by selecting the end face and surrounding faces, then dissolving. (thats how I do it in wings. I just never did it on the second set of pics,)

This is a construct I put together a few days ago. (was bored) Some stubs on the top have been removed, others covered. I left the bottom ones in place incase I wanted to add to it further.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts24.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts24.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts22.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts22.jpg)

BTW
These new pipes were designed to end facing a greeble as they are much more difficult to collapse.

Thanx guys!

Larsen

17th Oct 2007, 21:45

Dude this is sweet... very very cool:thumb:

Dallidas

18th Oct 2007, 00:57

killer stuff bro! looks like it would spit plasma! :devil:

Ozylot

18th Oct 2007, 01:15

killer stuff bro! looks like it would spit plasma! :devil:

That reminds me... I have plans for a 'turret' greeble :devil: maybe 2...

thanx guys, more soon!

DerekDRP

18th Oct 2007, 01:18

Awsome I didn't know that wings 3d can model like max :D

Dallidas

18th Oct 2007, 01:39

That reminds me... I have plans for a 'turret' greeble :devil: maybe 2...

thanx guys, more soon!

heh cant wait!

Ozylot

18th Oct 2007, 04:25

Thanx guys.

Update:

This was a little test of some structural greebles. Also built a new Ion Engine greeble.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts31.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts31.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts30.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts30.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts29.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts29.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts28.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts28.jpg)

Dallidas

18th Oct 2007, 04:27

shibby! i want to see some gunz though!

Andrew March

18th Oct 2007, 06:13

I assume you meant shinny :D

Lord Erisu

18th Oct 2007, 06:36

How much time do you have on your hands??

Ozylot

18th Oct 2007, 13:00

How much time do you have on your hands??

Believe it or not... sometimes not enough ;)

Thanx guys!

Elowan

18th Oct 2007, 15:16

Believe it or not... sometimes not enough ;)

Thanx guys!

You are a nutcase after my own heart. Good work!pmpn

nyrath

18th Oct 2007, 17:56

Dang, Ozylot! You are the man with the plan. With your modular system, you can crank out a stunning James Bond supervillain underground lair in five minutes flat. Or an entire star fleet worth of various ship classes.

I gotta try making my own set of modular greebles. Maybe instead of cubical units I'll try using tetrahedrons and octahedrons.

Shadowman99

18th Oct 2007, 19:07

Impressive... They can make planets...

You definately have me thinking about how to build some of my own reusable greble components to fill in the blah spaces on projects.

Nice engines btw.

Dimitriy

18th Oct 2007, 19:54

Ozy...you never stop to impress me...

Larsen

18th Oct 2007, 20:23

Dude... the rest of us ADD greebles to our engines or gunz... with you it's like the entire engine section is one big greeble:o

Just amazing bro!

Brickhead

18th Oct 2007, 20:26

Nice work bro.

backstept

18th Oct 2007, 20:51

Coolest. LEGO. Set. Ever.

:thumb:
you're a genius, man!

Ozylot

18th Oct 2007, 23:50

Coolest. LEGO. Set. Ever.

:thumb:
you're a genius, man!

I miss my lego's ;) Maybe thats why this is so much fun.

...
I gotta try making my own set of modular greebles. Maybe instead of cubical units I'll try using tetrahedrons and octahedrons.

That would be the next progression. Good thinking, I'd love to see what you come up with.

Thanx everyone... I was able to start a turret today, should have a pic soon.

Sugartooth

19th Oct 2007, 01:14

Ozy dude, im gonna take up a collection and send you a suitcase full of Legos!!!!

The greebs just get more and more impressive!

Dallidas

19th Oct 2007, 03:59

I assume you meant shinny :D

nope. never seen "dude wheres my car?"

Ozylot

19th Oct 2007, 05:36

Ozy dude, im gonna take up a collection and send you a suitcase full of Legos!!!!

The greebs just get more and more impressive!

hehe... thanx!

Update time!

Here is a look at the new turret. I may end up using the platform from it and create a special radar dish to go on it instead of a turret. (Thanx to Road Warrior ;))
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts33.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts33.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts32.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts32.jpg)

JeffrySG

19th Oct 2007, 05:41

Greeble-liscious!!!

looking great Carl!!!

bojangles

20th Oct 2007, 19:03

Oz, pure testament to your insanity, very lovely. This is the design philosophy I feel creates the best fantasy image creations: inside out. Muscles, bones, hydraulics, struts, load bearing joists...you get the drift. Then the skin then follows the form and the beauty comes from the visual clues from the form what the function is.

Whilst looking over the images it occurred to me that the "machinery" needs some sort of cage or skeleton to hold it all together. In reality the various parts would be attached to a chassis. You've explained that the various parts have a bounding box. Maybe you could introduce interlocking outer struts within the bounding box of the pieces? I hope you get what i mean and can appreciate the aesthetic value it could add.

And perhaps I am feeling jealous and want to make you do more work in what seems to have been a gigantic project..so ha (blows raspberry)

top stuff all the same, man

Bo

efritsch

20th Oct 2007, 22:01

Seriously Oz, damn!

Want to greeble my Battle Cruiser?

Darkstone

21st Oct 2007, 09:23

Seriously Oz, damn!

Want to greeble my Battle Cruiser?

:lol: Oh, my perverted mind.

Great work Ozylot. :thumb:

Ozylot

21st Oct 2007, 16:51

...
Whilst looking over the images it occurred to me that the "machinery" needs some sort of cage or skeleton to hold it all together. In reality the various parts would be attached to a chassis. You've explained that the various parts have a bounding box. Maybe you could introduce interlocking outer struts within the bounding box of the pieces? I hope you get what i mean and can appreciate the aesthetic value it could add.
...

Thats a very good idea. At this time I am not entirely sure how I would go about adding that. My first thought would be to create a cage greeble that could overlap the system, might try that. Thanx!

....
Want to greeble my Battle Cruiser?

That sounds a little too personal to me. :p ;)

Thanx everyone, hope to have more soon.

Shadowman99

21st Oct 2007, 17:05

Seriously Oz, damn!

Want to greeble my Battle Cruiser?

Get a room! :lol::lol::lol:

efritsch

21st Oct 2007, 17:18

Perverts! The lot of you!

I'll just wait till to you release them to the universe at large and do it myself.

Ozylot

21st Oct 2007, 18:12

Perverts! The lot of you!

I'll just wait till to you release them to the universe at large and do it myself.

LOL...

haven't seen many using the first set yet.

Shadowman99

21st Oct 2007, 18:26

Perverts! The lot of you!

...do it myself.

Who's the pervert? :devil:

Ozylot

22nd Oct 2007, 13:44

Lol^

Update:

So I was messing with this current construct and I finished the shape and covered it with the structural greebles. Ive found it looks better without them. So, im going to go a bit of a different route with some new pieces.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts35.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts35.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts34.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts34.jpg)

Lord Erisu

22nd Oct 2007, 16:44

umm... nice, missing some armour plates tho:)

Shadowman99

22nd Oct 2007, 16:58

You should add the Mindstorm computer as one of your greeble bits. :D That looks like a fun collection of objects to play with.

Ozylot

22nd Oct 2007, 17:40

You should add the Mindstorm computer as one of your greeble bits. :D That looks like a fun collection of objects to play with.

Neat idea! and it is fun. ;)

umm... nice, missing some armour plates tho:)

If you are referring to the structural bits I had before: They were covering the greebles and were bothering me :p

if not... then that might be an idea as well, a few greebled armor plates.

Glazy

22nd Oct 2007, 17:50

I'm sick of these raw greebles, can I have some done medium rare ?!

Shadowman99

22nd Oct 2007, 18:05

I would like some smoked greebs with BBQ sauce.

Lord Erisu

22nd Oct 2007, 18:13

If you are referring to the structural bits I had before: They were covering the greebles and were bothering me :p

if not... then that might be an idea as well, a few greebled armor plates.

I considered saying some well placed shots would destroy that thing... but they needn't be well placed. I can hear the captains voice in my head of the attacking vessel.

"Sod aiming, just shoot it."

Dimitriy

22nd Oct 2007, 19:08

Okay...Ozy...drugs and lego sets is a bad combination...especially in your age.

So say no to drugs and do smth mediocre...will ya?

Mach Crit

22nd Oct 2007, 20:28

I considered saying some well placed shots would destroy that thing... but they needn't be well placed. I can hear the captains voice in my head of the attacking vessel.

"Sod aiming, just shoot it."

Nah. If it were anybody from this bunch, they'd just sit around drooling at all the nifty little points, objects, and thingies floating around out there.

Attacking ship: "Comm, Open a hailing frequency"
Comm: "Aye, sir!... They're ready to receive!"
Commander, attacking Ship: "Enemy Vessel! Do you understand me?"

(Enemy ship): "Bzzzt, Click!"
Translator:"SPEAK, THING."

Commander, attacking Ship:"Uhh, Who does your Greebles?"

Mach:thumb:

rtrowbridge

22nd Oct 2007, 20:32

I'm not sure where I was when this thread started, but this is incredible. Thank you for explaining the 'Put On' command in Wings. I had never even noticed it before (most of my Wings modelling involves insetting/extruding/scaling/smoothing octohedrons to make "pointy things" with my five year old that she likes to color and spin). This opens up a lot of possibilities.

Now if I could just figure out how to make a decent greeble over the cylinder frames...

Ozylot

22nd Oct 2007, 23:09

Lol guys!

I'm sick of these raw greebles, can I have some done medium rare ?!

im cooking up a new batch ;)

Thanx all.

Ozylot

23rd Oct 2007, 04:02

So today I built a couple of angled greebles... this is all I have so far (minus the structural greebles and catwalks)
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts37.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts37.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts36.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts36.jpg)

BTW the pipe ends have been cut off on this one.

Lord Erisu

23rd Oct 2007, 06:41

Nice and meaty those. But I have an idea for textures on those tanks...

a bullseye :D

Ozylot

23rd Oct 2007, 13:20

Nice and meaty those. But I have an idea for textures on those tanks...

a bullseye :D

Lol... they are probably just for coolant. ;)

Ozylot

23rd Oct 2007, 20:24

Created a new mini-turret, and a new angled greeble...
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts42.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts42.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts41.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts41.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts40.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts40.jpg)http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts39.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts39.jpg)

Ozylot

24th Oct 2007, 03:12

Here is a better look at the newest piece (center)

With the exception of the ring part at the top... this is made up of all new greebles.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/th_MachineParts43.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/ozylot/MachineParts43.jpg)

Prime_8

24th Oct 2007, 03:23

heheh cool man

Lord Erisu

24th Oct 2007, 17:19

ooh... shiney...

BorgMan

12th Nov 2007, 12:43

I just downloaded the greebles Oz, I needed soem for my new ship and I'll be sure to let you see them. I'll probably be using them for the ablative armor system as well as the sensors but you'll see ;)

Ozylot

12th Nov 2007, 13:04

Thanx guys!

Borgman: Cool! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

Cal

12th Nov 2007, 23:08

This is a fun model - I love greebles. Looks like some kind of manic remote gun turret. Wouldn't want to argue with that thing.

Berticus

12th Nov 2007, 23:48

Hmm... I had a brain fart last night for a cool looking airship, so methinks I'll probably use this pack for detailing. Nice work, btw. (And sorry the tutorial hasn't worked itself out yet, been a little bizzy and it looks like its going to get worse (like, school is now in the last four weeks kind of busy, so it might be a little while).

Ozylot

13th Nov 2007, 00:12

japme

17th Mar 2008, 18:38

Oz, you are a wizard(pun intended). I am currently working on a Star Trek Fleet Flag Bridge Complex, and in my free time I'm dinking around with an animation of the voyager powering up the ablative armor. I had hoped to find the Ablative generators used by someone else on here, but couldn't seem to find them on the net (sigh). Then I ran search here for greebles and ablative and your thread popped up. I think this will work perfectly for one, if not both of my projects.

I will try to remember to post some pics of what I get in a few days.

Here is my bridge thread.
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/38562-fleet-flagship-command-bridge-post-tng.html

Nutsy

17th Mar 2008, 18:46

Japme... While this work here is cool youve just necroposted... Please dont.

japme

18th Mar 2008, 18:58

Nercoposted? I'm not sure what that is but I'm sorry. I'll did was gave him my project thread to see where I might use it and mentioned another project I might use it in, in response to his request for other peoples work, which makes use of his greebles.

Again sorry, about that and if some one could explain "nercoposting" to me I'll try to avoid doing it again.

Hyperspace

18th Mar 2008, 19:14

"necro-posting" is reviving an old thread. (and as a by product pushing down threads that actually have newer content)

This should only by done by the thread creator if he has an update. Otherwise try reaching the thread creator by PM or e-mail.

Ozylot

18th Mar 2008, 20:31

Well Japme, thanx for letting me know, it is nice to know when someone is planning to make use of these, but I agree with the above sentiments, it may have been better to use a PM. There seemed to be a few folks following this thread that may be disappointed now by lack of updates. I will very likely be developing these further, however not in the immediate future as there are several other projects that seem to need my attention. Again though, thank you for letting me know, and by all means, anyone else who is making use of these, feel free to drop me a PM. I love to see what folks do with them.

japme

18th Mar 2008, 21:18

Thanks for the clarification HYPERSPACE, but my thread is not dead. If you will check I have been providing updates at as regular an interval as possible. There are no new pics, due to the size of the step I am at work on at the moment.

On another note, Ozy, I try to get a pic posted by the end of the week. So you will probably not here from me till then.

Japme signing off.

Firelode

18th Mar 2008, 21:51

japme -

The members above weren't saying that your thread was dead rather that this thread here has gone a long while without a post, until you decided to post. Basically in order to talk to Ozylot you can just use the Private Message service given to you in the User Control Panel area instead of using this thread......

like I have......oops :)

edit - I genuinely cannot believe that the post I gave advice in contains the advice I should have used not to post a damn thing, stupid, stupid, stupid!