3D Ebon Hawk [Archive] - Scifi-Meshes.com

Smeagol

9th Jun 2006, 19:30

I actually started this a while back, but I thought I might try to finish it. It's the Ebon Hawk from the Knights of the Old Republic games. I looked on the internet, but I don't believe anyone has ever really gotten very far on a mesh of this ship. Why is it called the Ebon Hawk if it's really orange and white?

Gilmour

9th Jun 2006, 20:57

Very nice but if I may say the engines are a tad too close together... at least from how i remember the ship.

backstept

9th Jun 2006, 20:59

sweet!
I like this ship :D

Smeagol

9th Jun 2006, 22:24

Eukaryot

9th Jun 2006, 22:29

Ebon Hawk is sweeet!
Like it :)

MajorPayne

9th Jun 2006, 23:22

Ooooh! Looks very good, but I don't remember this ship.

backstept

9th Jun 2006, 23:26

it's the ship from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/backstept/games-kotor-003.jpg) (for PC and Xbox)
[link fixed]

Smeagol

9th Jun 2006, 23:35

Gilmour

9th Jun 2006, 23:52

Yes, Gilmour, thanks for pointing that out. I had the shape of the stocks of the engines wrong, and the engines overall were a little small. I've fixed this, and also added the guns on the top. I'm not sure what approach to take on the texturing.

Yeah that looks indeed a bit better. Don't mean to be a pedantic ninny, but when you've spend half a year enjoying a game over and over you kinda get a good memory of what the ship looks like.:lol:

Beautiful stuff dude anyhow.:thumb:

Gilmour

9th Jun 2006, 23:53

Looks like that site doesn't allow deep links. Here is the StarWars.com databank entry. (http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/ebonhawk/index.html) The model used in the cutscenes is a little different from the in-game one, so I'm mostly using the in-game model for reference.

Is that cause there's a lack of reference for one rather than the other or simply preference for one over the other?

Moreover I'll add something here, because I don't wanna post some more and get accused of "spammage", but it's always interesting to note that the term ebon hawk would mean black hawk in fact. As ebon is meaning to be a very dark black. That is unless I have been lied to by Oxford.

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 00:20

Is that cause there's a lack of reference for one rather than the other or simply preference for one over the other?

Both. The Game model actually seems to be more detailed as far as the mesh itself goes.

ravenwing

10th Jun 2006, 01:29

Great start,, was tempted to have a go at doing this ship a few times myself, are you also modelling the inside?

Berticus

10th Jun 2006, 02:06

Model the panels!!! (it'll look soooo much cooler.)
:)
Its always hard to be first with something.:thumb:
Great work so far!
-albert

evil_genius_180

10th Jun 2006, 02:30

Awesome work on this model!! I didn't even know there were any references for it, but it looks like I remember it from the game. :thumb: I'll definitely keep an eye out for updates on this one. :D

Clay

10th Jun 2006, 02:39

DUDE this is sweet I love it... the ebon hawk was a nice star wars-ish ship, and This wip is very original nothing like it so far, keep it up!

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 03:33

I'd like to get the basic shape done first, then I'll probably go back and add details. I'd like to model as much of the details as possible, vs. texturing them on, eventually. Hadn't thought about the interior, I think I'll just do the outside for starters.

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 05:52

And another update...It doesn't really look much different I guess, but I've cleaned up the vertices a lot, it's much easier to work with now. I've done some additional work on the engines, and modeled some of the panels onto the main hull.

uniderth

10th Jun 2006, 07:29

Good job. I remember seeing a mesh like this a long time ago. I dont remember if it was yours or what.

darth_daniel

10th Jun 2006, 11:30

Great work love the games and the ship also!:)

Gilmour

10th Jun 2006, 15:59

Both. The Game model actually seems to be more detailed as far as the mesh itself goes.

Ah, I see. Still, some sweet work there, it's gonna be great, I can tell.:thumb:

lampshadehead

10th Jun 2006, 17:13

That's pretty cool. Definately an interesting shape to work with, I'd guess

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 18:18

I remember seeing a mesh like this a long time ago. I dont remember if it was yours or what.

Not me...but I think someone else started one of these on Scifi-meshes a long time ago, but never got very far.

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 19:09

I've been able to find good references for the most part, but there is one part of the ship I haven't found any images of, circled in the attached image. Thanks,
-Smeagol

backstept

10th Jun 2006, 19:58

if someone has the game they could take a few screenshots

Oovebei

10th Jun 2006, 20:07

I've been able to find good references for the most part, but there is one part of the ship I haven't found any images of, circled in the attached image. Thanks,
-Smeagol

I have the game but it is in the attic :rolleyes: - that area is set back about 1/3 from the opposite side and is flat - I will try to dig game out and get a few shots of the ship

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 20:34

Thanks. I know from a bird's eye view shot of the ship what the shape is, but I'm not sure what kind of greebling it has there. I've been replaying the game (on x-box though) so when I get the ship into a docking bay I'll be able to walk around it for some good reference.

Gilmour

10th Jun 2006, 20:52

Yeah I have it on X-Box. Got too much on my computer to do it.. Would give you some screenies if I could though.

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 21:27

That's ok, I found one pretty good one with which I've reworked a lot of that area. On Wookieepedia:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:EbonHawk.jpg

Smeagol

10th Jun 2006, 22:31

Here's a small update:

Gilmour

10th Jun 2006, 22:37

Ah yeah the ole' sneaking in tech without any plating, think that's kinda inspired the Falcon.
It looks rather good with that. Coming along well.:D

Oovebei

10th Jun 2006, 23:24

Imagrs - some official a couple in game - nice to be back there actually :)

These images are pretty heavy on memory so print them off or save them as I can only keep em on for a limited time :eek:

Smeagol

11th Jun 2006, 01:35

Thanks, I'd seen the first two, but the third one is great, it's just what I needed. Thanks a ton. :thumb:

Smeagol

12th Jun 2006, 02:44

Here's the latest. I've added a lot of little details and tweaked the shape with some new reference material. I have the basic shape correct now.

Aethernaut

12th Jun 2006, 02:45

Fantastic! Can't wait to see her dirtied up a bit.

Oovebei

12th Jun 2006, 08:06

Yep - thats looking pretty sweet :) - where can I order one :D

Hitman

12th Jun 2006, 11:53

Looking good so far.

Dr. Jones

12th Jun 2006, 12:01

It is good, better than the one from the game, but it's not that hard. That's why I suggest you shouldn't stick too much to the reference, because the model from game and cutscene is so little detailed. Forget these panel textures and make them with real geometries

darth_daniel

12th Jun 2006, 14:15

Nice Ebon Hawk, maybe you might want to check this scratchbuilt model out:
http://www.starwarsmodels.com/ebonhawk.html
It´s really well done, should be quite a good source for reference, just the markings are blue not red (which is not a crit).:) Hope this helps!

agelshaxe

12th Jun 2006, 16:41

Cool! I love this design, keep up the good work :D

Smeagol

12th Jun 2006, 19:07

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. The plating texture right now is just temporary, to give it the right look. I guess I could have just kept as a bare, textureless model until the modelling was all done, but I thought it would be cool to have some textures. I've already modelled on a lot more of the plating than is actually on the mesh used in the game, and I'll probably, eventually, replace most of the greebles with modelled stuff as well. I haven't really started on the texturing yet, I just made the parts that are predominately orange on the ship orange as a point of reference. I haven't paid much attention to the underside of the ship, but I have some good references for that too now so I'm going to work on getting that right.

Gilmour

12th Jun 2006, 19:50

Lovin' it. Simply lovin' it!:D

Trooper

12th Jun 2006, 19:52

Looking great man. :)

Smeagol

12th Jun 2006, 22:28

Here is a closeup of some of the panelling on the "nose." I've also UV-mapped the nose to add the white plating. So far I've only plated the top of the nose and some large plating on the back, but I plan to do this to the entire ship.

USS Mariner

13th Jun 2006, 00:06

Just finished TSL. This looks perfect. Plan on making an interior for this puppy? ;)

Smeagol

13th Jun 2006, 00:27

TSL was good, other than the ending, of course. I doubt I'll do an interior, as it's quite large, but I may eventually. I might a little bit of the main cockpit, which would be visible through the window. The whole interior would be a pretty huge undertaking, and this is my first time modelling anything like this. Before this, the most detailed model I'd ever made was the Nautilus, which I used in a few images in the gallery. (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/gallery/data/500/blackstreamweb.jpg) This is actually the first time I've built a detailed model based on a preexisting reference.

Dr-Timelord

13th Jun 2006, 01:50

Wow, this is looking good, The Ebon Hawk is probably one of my fav EU ships * The outrider is top *

I really do wonder if it is faster than the MF...

And don't get me started on the end scene of KOTOR II where they cut scene is entitled ' Death of the Ebon Hawk' and looky there it is at the end of the game.

Its unknown if we will see this ship in KOTOR 3

Smeagol

13th Jun 2006, 06:01

Here is a nice overall shot of the ship. I've mapped all the white and orange onto it now, and removed all the old plating textures. I've also added some more details to the plating.

evil_genius_180

13th Jun 2006, 06:31

Looks great. :)

uniderth

13th Jun 2006, 06:44

Looks good. I've just started playing KOTOR and I havent even got the Ebon Hawk yet. But I sure like the ship.

Smeagol

14th Jun 2006, 22:33

Here is a small update. I found that in the HDRI renders a lot of the details weren't showing up very clearly, so this is just raytraced. Sorry about the bad lighting setup. I've started detailing the main hull with plating, it's taking a while as I'm not just making it up, I'm actually basing the plating on the plating textures they used on the in-game model. I've also got a very basic underside for the ship now. Thanks for all the feedback. I'm not sure how to go about making this thing look dirty and old when the time comes.

ravenwing

15th Jun 2006, 08:04

Looking grand,, the one this this ship really needs it a little dirt ;) cant have this classic ship looking clean now hehe

Smeagol

27th Jun 2006, 02:59

It's been a little while since the last update, I guess. Here's the latest:

Smeagol

8th Jul 2006, 23:58

Here's a closeup of the some of the modelled-on panels I've been working on:

Gilmour

9th Jul 2006, 00:06

Still beautiful, great progress.

Darth Malice

9th Jul 2006, 00:11

Sweet, I havent played the game, but I take it the ship is Corilian in origin?.. Very nice looker and great work on it Smeagol...:thumb:

Smeagol

9th Jul 2006, 00:30

I take it the ship is Corilian in origin?

I don't think the game ever says, but it certainly has that aesthetic.

Darth Malice

9th Jul 2006, 00:37

Yeah for sure. How`d ya do the panels mate. Were they extruded indivdually or did you use some kinda greeble modifier on them?..

Smeagol

9th Jul 2006, 01:05

Were they extruded indivdually or did you use some kinda greeble modifier on them?..

Heh heh...I wish. They were extruded individually. It's gonna take some time to cover the whole ship like this.

Darth Malice

9th Jul 2006, 01:16

Heh heh...I wish. They were extruded individually. It's gonna take some time to cover the whole ship like this.LOL, ahhhh so your a madman then. Good to hear...:thumb:

Dr-Timelord

9th Jul 2006, 03:27

Just need to give her a dirty and well used look, and you got a ship !

Smeagol

9th Jul 2006, 05:44

I've done some work on the texturing to make it look a bit dirty. I won't start with the really intricate stuff (worn off paint on the edges, that sort of thing) until I've finished the modelling work though. It looks fine at a distance, but there is still a long way to go. I haven't even started extruding the plating on the bottom yet. (I have modelled and mapped it though.) Also I'd like to replace the texture I'm using for the all the wiring and engine junk on the sides with modelled parts eventually.

Darth Malice

9th Jul 2006, 05:51

Also I'd like to replace the texture I'm using for the all the wiring and engine junk on the sides with modelled parts eventually.Yeah for sure. Modeled detail like that would be great on this thing... Still looking good, keep it up...:thumb:

uniderth

9th Jul 2006, 05:52

wow this ship looks way better than I thought it would!

agelshaxe

9th Jul 2006, 11:31

Looks real cool. Are you going to be modelling the interior? The control room behind the windows for example?

Larsen

9th Jul 2006, 11:39

Allways liked this ship... has a nice asuymetrical feel to, without overdoing it... nice progress so far, keep it up:thumb:

Smeagol

9th Jul 2006, 22:03

Looks real cool. Are you going to be modelling the interior?

I won't be doing the interior, but I might model a little of the cockpit eventually so that it can be shown through the window.

Smeagol

12th Jul 2006, 22:14

Finished the top half of the outriggers and the front of the 'nose' of the ship. I'll try to detail the entire top of the ship first, then adding details to the bottom. Once I finish that I'll go back and replace the textured-on engine parts.

Skynet

13th Jul 2006, 12:39

have to say it's looking preety good ... for a flying brick ...

agelshaxe

13th Jul 2006, 13:31

Those plates are looking great. Keep it up!

OhWillow

13th Jul 2006, 15:52

smeagol, i just saw his now! That's damn gorgeous, and the first Hawk model ive seen done so well, ...(at all, in fact!) i wanted to try my hand at this, but could never find enough references. thats absolutely gorgeous, great work buddy. i guess ill go do something else, maybe the virago

Larsen

13th Jul 2006, 17:25

NIIICE:thumb:....

But dude... BIGGER images PLEASE!:D

Smeagol

29th Jul 2006, 23:08

Here's the latest, this time a bigger image...

DarkSapiens

29th Jul 2006, 23:12

Looking good!

But I think it "shines" too much.

I'd try lower specular levels, and perhaps using a noise texture to make the specular more... "diffuse"

Oovebei

29th Jul 2006, 23:26

More dirt, she is far too clean at the moment :p

Windfield

4th Aug 2006, 04:07

I love it man!
I really do!

I've fallen in love whit this ship since I played the game

i found this web site looking for a model of the ebon hawk to print, and then make a paper model of it

i guees that your model is too detailed to do that, though

but, let me tell you, really nice work

keep it up

Smeagol

24th Aug 2006, 00:35

Thanks. That sounds like quite an undertaking. I think you're correct in saying that this sort of model wouldn't be much help. What you need is the basic shape with textured on detail. A cool idea though. I haven't worked on this in a while, but I'll probably start it back up eventually.

Oovebei

24th Aug 2006, 08:20

You MUST finish this model :)

Smeagol

28th Aug 2006, 00:09

I will. I just haven't had time to work on it lately. It'll be a while before I can start back up on it.

Smeagol

22nd Dec 2006, 23:09

Well, it's been a while, but here is the latest. I've modeled some of the greebles.

Tovette

23rd Dec 2006, 00:09

That's a great ship! I really like it except for the center extended part for the reason that it's bluntness contradicts the curved design aesthetic you've established for the concept. It doesn't really have any place in a design like that. Just my two cents though. love the colors!

Smeagol

23rd Dec 2006, 00:57

Thanks. It's from the game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, though; I didn't design it. So I guess you should take that up with Bioware, the developer.

Pyrocitor

23rd Dec 2006, 02:21

Nice work

I love the Ebon Hawk it's one of my favourite Star Wars ships

Once your finished modelling it you'll have to model it in the state it was in at the start of The Sith Lords :D

Phaser

24th Dec 2006, 02:18

Orion_Matrix_2015

2nd Apr 2009, 17:28

this amazing work smegol, i know this thread hasnt seen any action in ages but i was looking through the net for a mofel of the Ebon Hawk for download and found this thread.

You have put so much incredible detail into this model, it's really inspiring.

Have you made any progress with the bottom of the ship?

The ebon hawk was actually designed by the game designers to be simmilar to the Millenium falcon. Link (http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/ebonhawk/index.html)

I cant wait to see the finished product, i bet it will be amazing.

backstept

2nd Apr 2009, 18:03

please read this thread (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/37728-necro-posting.html)

Smeagol

11th Jul 2009, 07:40

Sorry to bump this again, I did want to respond to the question at hand since I happened to be checking in.

I haven't done much work on this mesh since I posted that last update, I might try to wrap it up eventually, however. I'm working on a big stop-motion animation project right now, once that's done I'm hoping to get back into some more CG modeling, I'll be sure to post any new 3D projects on SFM.

Smeagol

12th Jul 2009, 00:50

Ok here's a new update, I think I finally got the shape of this part of the ship right, and I've added some greebles.

Syklon

12th Jul 2009, 05:17

Looking good, colors are a bit bright, but that's a minor complaint with a non-textured model. Nice to see another Old Republic era ship in the works, got to love that game.

Aresius

12th Jul 2009, 13:26

nice.

Smeagol

12th Jul 2009, 21:56

Here's another update, I've reworked the textures, added some details, and revised the same area as last time further.

XRaiderV1.7

13th Jul 2009, 09:51

ooh, nice work

Starscream

13th Jul 2009, 11:37

Sweet. :)

Starship

13th Jul 2009, 12:38

It´s good to see her back. ;)

Smeagol

18th Jul 2009, 23:27

Here's the latest, I've reworked the textures and added some more details, also revised the guns a bit.

Andromeda

19th Jul 2009, 03:29

Is that cause there's a lack of reference for one rather than the other or simply preference for one over the other?

Moreover I'll add something here, because I don't wanna post some more and get accused of "spammage", but it's always interesting to note that the term ebon hawk would mean black hawk in fact. As ebon is meaning to be a very dark black. That is unless I have been lied to by Oxford.

If ou remember the Ebon Hawk was a smuggling ship perhaps that is where the term black hawk or dark hawk came from a ship designed to escape and elude the authorties.

To the artist thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, Ive been looking for a good render of this baby for a while