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AldrikG
16th May 2006, 22:35
Hiya gang,

Woot! On-line again! Thanks a ton, Aceman for all the hard work and long hours this weekend, getting us back up and running so soon.

I spent this weekend on the engine section. Added the engine exhausts, and the what-ever-the-hell-it-is at the center of the engine-pack. The only things that (semi-reliably) come from the actual show is the shape of the aforementioned what-ever-the-hell-it-is at the center, and the "pipes" leading into it. The rest is just me throwing polys to fill up space :D

JBarnes
(AldrikG)

vf-1msx
16th May 2006, 22:39
I love the Battlestar Pegasus

Ainur
16th May 2006, 22:44
OO This looks very nice. I especially like those guns on the pack of the pods thingies. :)

Larsen
16th May 2006, 22:47
This thing is coming together nicely mate... great work:thumb:

CrimsonLine
16th May 2006, 22:47
Dude!

Awesome!

Totally!

Prime_8
16th May 2006, 22:49
like dteh engine on this one ..

its like teh guys designing it said .. "hey how about an other drive ..??"

CASUAL OBSERVER
16th May 2006, 22:53
Very nice.

You did all that on the rather sparse reference pics out there?

Dark Saber
16th May 2006, 23:12
Very Impressive. The Beast looks great.

Dac
16th May 2006, 23:16
The back end and the middle look really great, but i think youve got some scaling issues going on with the bottom of the ship and the front section...

First off, im pretty sure front section is nowhere near THAT narrow at the top...also the bottom bit at the front is more curved inwards aswell methinks...aswell as the bottom of the pods, curve the outer wall inwards.

Its looking good tho....

farcry
16th May 2006, 23:19
Wow this is a wicked looking mesh! Although the Galactica is still my fave of the two, i really do like the Pegasus and i love your mesh.

al3d
16th May 2006, 23:21
Looks realy good...my C&C would be to reduce the height of the panels...

Tovette
16th May 2006, 23:21
I seriously dig that man. That is awesome. You've done will despite the lack of ref. :) great!

JeffrySG
16th May 2006, 23:24
it's great to see this monster ship WIP back here!

AldrikG
16th May 2006, 23:50
Hiya gang,

Thanks for the responses.


Very nice.
You did all that on the rather sparse reference pics out there?

Yeah, I have been staring at screen-grabs for a few months now.


The back end and the middle look really great, but i think youve got some scaling issues going on with the bottom of the ship and the front section...

First off, im pretty sure front section is nowhere near THAT narrow at the top...

I'll take another look at that, although I am pretty happy with it as is.


also the bottom bit at the front is more curved inwards aswell methinks...

I thought so too at first. In fact I built it that way to begin with. Then, I saw the screen-grabs from "Captain's Hand." There is a fly-over sequence that has a pretty good shot of that. I've attached the grab, but I have no idea where I got it.


aswell as the bottom of the pods, curve the outer wall inwards.

Yeah, I noticed that myself when I did the renders this morning. It's on the list of stuff to look at.


Looks realy good...my C&C would be to reduce the height of the panels...

Ok, I am busted. I totally agree with you about this. I made them over-tall because I thought they looked cooler on the renders that way. :o

Thanks again,

JBarnes
(AldrikG)

Lee80
17th May 2006, 01:17
woohoo the beast is back!!!. Looks really good..:D

backstept
17th May 2006, 01:38
hooray for the beast
man . . . is it october yet?

Lee80
17th May 2006, 01:44
I wish!

JeffrySG
17th May 2006, 04:17
. . . is it october yet?

...this is going to be a L O N G summer... I had to watch the two part finale a few times already... :eek:
I'm hoping to see a lot more of the Pegasus in season 3.

Parker Midwinter
17th May 2006, 04:44
see what happens? i leave my computer for 6 hours and something THIS AWESOME pops up... maybe i should go outside more often

vf-1msx
17th May 2006, 04:47
see what happens? i leave my computer for 6 hours and something THIS AWESOME pops up... maybe i should go outside more often
lol lol
Battlestar Pegasus how big is it

williethefool
17th May 2006, 04:52
Excellent work, I love it. You should be working for the production team on the series.:D

TheGreatRaja
17th May 2006, 05:37
Big, but not quite as big as the G

sh0rtc1rcu1t
17th May 2006, 05:38
very very nice.......i really like this

Mauiman
17th May 2006, 05:49
Sweet lookin ship. I like I like.

Choo1701
17th May 2006, 06:56
She looks a lot better :D

Nice work

weevilman
17th May 2006, 07:03
great work so far, though i'm surprised you went this far in detailing without getting some crits on the body shape first, the more i look at it it just doesn't seem to convey the mass or power of the ship, it may just be the renders or the gi lighting, but i would like to see some high fov shots from under the nose or along the pods, to give us a real sense of scale, and show off the details.

i've been grappling with some of the shapes on the ship myself, and i definately think you're on the right track, looking forward to some great renders of this one!

GotchaBird
17th May 2006, 07:05
Sweet work dude, she's easy on the eyes! Its nice to see it coming together.
-Keep it up!

Tovette
17th May 2006, 07:07
Will she be textured? And lit?

GotchaBird
17th May 2006, 07:19
the more i look at it it just doesn't seem to convey the mass or power of the ship, it may just be the renders or the gi lighting, but i would like to see some high fov shots from under the nose or along the pods, to give us a real sense of scale, and show off the details.

I think we're all accustomed to seeing the Pegasus rendered with more perspective (on the show). Its also somewhat difficult to tell (from the limited reference material) what the actual proportions should be.

In any event, she is a pain to model because her hull design mixes complex curves with faceted surfaces

nico-r44
17th May 2006, 08:48
simply fantastic!!! 5 stars form me!

weevilman
17th May 2006, 10:01
In any event, she is a pain to model because her hull design mixes complex curves with faceted surfaces

i don't see how the shapes on the pegasus are necessarily anything more or even as complex that what star wars or trek use, if anything i think the shape breaks down into simple geometry a lot more easily than most of those designs. i don't really see any 'complex curves' on this one, but i may be looking at it from a different point of view. i think with this ship, (aside from the astounding lack of references) the devil is in the details. the body is a basic boxy shape, the head areas a few curved boxes, the hangars are distorted boxes, i mean, it's not the poitn of this thread to say that (sorry to be ot) but it most certainly gains its character with the surface details and the attention it has clearly been given by the original artists. despite its similarities to the original tv galactica, they have molded it into something that fits within the reimagined world really well imo.

in any case, it's a tough nut to crack with the limited resources you have, AldrikG, and you're doing a great job so far, a nice wireframe wouldn't go astray either...

mirage
17th May 2006, 16:04
This work is great!!! You have done a great job on the Pegasus. I do have one small question though... I thought that the back of the Pegasus where you have the one big "engine" or whatever they want that to be, was split down the middle from top to bottom. I will try and find a picture of it and I could be wrong. Regardless I glad this is back on the boards and will be following it very closely.

One other quick thing... someone asked how big Pegasus is in relation to Galactica. The Pegasus is bigger in size. This is according to an article I read on another board. Apparently this will be confirmed in the extended edition of the Pegasus episode on the 2.5 DVD set and already has been in one of the interviews with RDM. We will see if it holds true or not, but I am going to believe it for now anyways. :)

Again great work and I look forward to many more updates.

Helot
17th May 2006, 16:10
This is an awesome model, you have done a great job. Glad to see you post your progress back on the site.

AldrikG
17th May 2006, 18:15
Wow! Thanks for all the comments. Ohhh!! and STARS!


Excellent work, I love it. You should be working for the production team on the series.:D

ACK! No thanks!! I think I would implode if I had any kind of deadline for this stuff. I have the utmost respect for everyone on production teams. Just not for me. Thanks for the compliment though!


i don't see how the shapes on the pegasus are necessarily anything more or even as complex that what star wars or trek use, if anything i think the shape breaks down into simple geometry a lot more easily than most of those designs...

I agree with you here. The Galactica is MUCH more complex in shape. The main issue I am having with the Pegasus is what little reference I have for it is usually shot using very little lighting (making it more dramatic as well as giving it that sense of mass and power GotchaBird mentioned) and WONKY perspective.

The very first time you see Pegasus, it looks like she is half as tall as she is long. Other shots make her look REALLY wide. :eek:
(Yes, I have been staring at screen-grabs too long!)

Doctorisn
17th May 2006, 19:11
Mighty fine build, AldrikG!

Like Tovette, I wonder if we'll see her textured and lit. :D

niraa67
17th May 2006, 22:07
I love it man keep it up.:cool:

weevilman
18th May 2006, 05:05
The main issue I am having with the Pegasus is what little reference I have for it is usually shot using very little lighting (making it more dramatic as well as giving it that sense of mass and power GotchaBird mentioned) and WONKY perspective.

Yeah dude, i know your pain, i pored over those screengrabs for days before i started, i went through and measured elements based on their perspective and stuff, i'll collate some of the custom refs i worked out and email them to ya if you like, that way we all get a bit more of an idea what this beast really looks like.

AldrikG
18th May 2006, 05:21
That would rock, Weevilman!
I'd love to see them.

williethefool
18th May 2006, 06:01
I gotta ask, will you be doing a bottom/ventral view of the Pegasus?:D

Alec Trevelyan
18th May 2006, 06:12
Killer details! :)

Majestic
19th May 2006, 10:36
Awesome work, just stunning. I can't wait to see more. :D

stumer
19th May 2006, 17:50
Most impressive, padawan...

weevilman
20th May 2006, 13:02
I found those refs i mentioned, you can grab them here (http://users.on.net/~weevilman/EXPORT.rar).

let's see some updates! ;D

asame
20th May 2006, 13:23
hey my first post on this page...

really love Pegasus and also your pictures. i have tryied to do a model from paper. the first model really sucked

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010137.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010138.jpg

the model is 40cm long


the second one is a bit better but still not like the real peggy...

so decided to do a 3 one but this time every detail rgiht.. i am going to use your pics as the baselines but really need a bottom look aswell, otherwise it won't be perfect and i have to start a 4 one :P
this time i wan't to every last small detail right and new model will be ~60 cm long.

btw sry for my spelling, english is not my mother-tongue

and after i have finished pegasus i am thinking of doing a galactica aswell, but it's a bit harder....

vf-1msx
20th May 2006, 13:45
hey my first post on this page...

really love Pegasus and also your pictures. i have tryied to do a model from paper. the first model really sucked

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010137.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010138.jpg

the model is 40cm long


the second one is a bit better but still not like the real peggy...

so decided to do a 3 one but this time every detail rgiht.. i am going to use your pics as the baselines but really need a bottom look aswell, otherwise it won't be perfect and i have to start a 4 one :P
this time i wan't to every last small detail right and new model will be ~60 cm long.

btw sry for my spelling, english is not my mother-tongue

and after i have finished pegasus i am thinking of doing a galactica aswell, but it's a bit harder....


that dont suck

Gilmour
20th May 2006, 15:34
hey my first post on this page...

really love Pegasus and also your pictures. i have tryied to do a model from paper. the first model really sucked

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010137.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010138.jpg

the model is 40cm long


the second one is a bit better but still not like the real peggy...

so decided to do a 3 one but this time every detail rgiht.. i am going to use your pics as the baselines but really need a bottom look aswell, otherwise it won't be perfect and i have to start a 4 one :P
this time i wan't to every last small detail right and new model will be ~60 cm long.

btw sry for my spelling, english is not my mother-tongue

and after i have finished pegasus i am thinking of doing a galactica aswell, but it's a bit harder....

That is quite impressive, actually. It makes me wanna try and make one.

Larsen
20th May 2006, 15:51
hey my first post on this page...

really love Pegasus and also your pictures. i have tryied to do a model from paper. the first model really sucked

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010137.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/asame/?action=view&current=P1010138.jpg

the model is 40cm long


the second one is a bit better but still not like the real peggy...

so decided to do a 3 one but this time every detail rgiht.. i am going to use your pics as the baselines but really need a bottom look aswell, otherwise it won't be perfect and i have to start a 4 one :P
this time i wan't to every last small detail right and new model will be ~60 cm long.

btw sry for my spelling, english is not my mother-tongue

and after i have finished pegasus i am thinking of doing a galactica aswell, but it's a bit harder....

WOW... Paper?...:amazed:

You should really start a wip on this:thumb: Great work man!

Choo1701
20th May 2006, 18:02
Hey thats one cool paper model ;)

best place to post it would properly be: www.starshipmodeler.com

still, better than anything i could do...

(and the engine pods seem to be too long....

Shiznaft
20th May 2006, 18:25
Wow.... Talk about big:eek: !! The poly count on that Beast has to be huge. How long have you been at this. The fact that you did all this with little or no reliable reference is amazing, great job. I give it three snaps up and a swish......:o

AldrikG
21st May 2006, 01:51
CPU died last night. Just got back up on another one. Sheesh.

Weevilman: THANKS!!!

Asame: Dude, that is insanely cool! Nice job!

Shiznaft: I have been working on her for about 3 months now. She weighs in at about 840k now.

A couple people have asked about renders of the bottom (or one person has asked a couple times :D ). I will post one soon. There is almost zero reference for what is down there.

Be back soon with an update.

Raideen
21st May 2006, 03:07
Noyce!!!

williethefool
21st May 2006, 17:21
A couple people have asked about renders of the bottom (or one person has asked a couple times ). I will post one soon. There is almost zero reference for what is down there.

Be back soon with an update.
__________________
AldrikG
Gryfalcon Shipyards

That would be me, thanks dude:D

dolza1971
21st May 2006, 22:17
impressive work.

AldrikG
24th May 2006, 01:49
Small update time!
I "finished" detailing the landing bays, lowered all the plates, worked on the bottom, and played around with lights. It was all fun and games until I went to render the lighted version. My computer was NOT amused!

All comments welcome and appriciated...

scifieric
24th May 2006, 02:50
So ... you'll add a little ambient light, right? ;)

Looks cool. I'm dying to see where it's going.

weevilman
24th May 2006, 02:51
looking nice man, chuck on some spec maps and a nice hard keylight and you'll have a fantastic image.

good work!

mikala
24th May 2006, 02:52
Are the lights just screaming "Here's my weaponry, target me, target me!"
Just a thought.
Construction of this mesh is killer. Hopefully some belly shots of her will come through next season.

Dallidas
24th May 2006, 02:56
My computer was NOT amused!




looks fantastic!


did your computer start shooting discs form the disc drive??:D

niraa67
24th May 2006, 03:03
Love it man:D

Beowulf
24th May 2006, 04:10
OH MY GOD!!!............ I cry every time i come here and see such impressive works...
You all are awsome!!

weevilman
24th May 2006, 05:09
just a quick word about the renders: if you're lighting a subject like this, and you are using some kind of gi (which it looks like you are) you could try using some simple radiance maps for the light casting, maybe just a black image with a few soft areas of reflected color with strong white highlights, that way you will have a less uniform distribution across the hull, help give the impression that it is large and detailed, help bring out your high frequency detail.

the other thing would be the lighting and shot composition. if you are going to light a subject in a vaccum, and you are using a key light, you should really have the camera at an opposing angle where you can actually see the light cast across the surface. as it is all we can see now is a nice, detailed blob of grey with a lot of identical lights at each point of detail. i would bring the intensity of those hull lights down, increase their contrast if you can, bump up their fallof values to avoid the harsh edges that scream cgi.
Perhaps move the key down in the world until is is slightly below the zero point, so the the underside of the ship has a nice silhouette, and we can see the form better.
this will also help accentuate the darker areas, the ridge under the head for instance, could do with a nice high contrast light hitting its hortizontal rim, and then some very soft lights from windows in the shadowed area. i realise this is a wip rendering, but if you can set up a sweet lighting rig now, you'll be able to churn out nice renders straight away! it will also help with your texturing, as you can customize the maps to fit the effect you are looking for, without constantly revising the lighting setup to accomodate the maps.

i find it works better with lights first (sometimes), but it can be done done really well in either direction, again, sweet work, if you're after some example setups i can fire off some quick max files if you like.

Darth Bane
24th May 2006, 05:12
Looking good!:cool:

I was thinking that maybe that thing on the aft of the ship is perhaps its FTL drive.

mattc
24th May 2006, 06:38
You could always just bake your lighting solution....

M.

williethefool
24th May 2006, 07:02
thankyou!!!!!!!

Larsen
24th May 2006, 12:29
Looks awsome man!... great work!

I'd bake that lighting into the texture tho...

AldrikG
24th May 2006, 19:52
Hiyas,

weevilman, I really appriciate the rendering tips.

There is this great scene in Kelly's Heros (one of my favorite movies) where Telly Savalas walks up to Donald Sutherland (who is supposed to be in his tank) and says, "What are you doing?!?!"
Sutherland: "Eating some cheese and catching some rays."
Savalas: "Why aren't you in your tank?!?!"
Sutherland: "It's broke."
Savalas: "Well, go FIX it!"
Sutherland: "Hey man, I just drive 'em. I don't know what makes 'em work."


just a quick word about the renders: if you're lighting a subject like this, and you are using some kind of gi (which it looks like you are)...

What's a gi?


you could try using some simple radiance maps for the light casting, maybe just a black image with a few soft areas of reflected color with strong white highlights, that way you will have a less uniform distribution across the hull, help give the impression that it is large and detailed, help bring out your high frequency detail.

How do I set radiance maps up in Max 6??


the other thing would be the lighting and shot composition. if you are going to light a subject in a vaccum, and you are using a key light

Key light??


Perhaps move the key down in the world until is is slightly below the zero point, so the the underside of the ship has a nice silhouette, and we can see the form better.

????


You could always just bake your lighting solution....

Sounds like a great idea! I just have NO clue as to how to go about that.

I really do thank you all for your suggestions, even though it makes me realize how much I don't know about this stuff. Any ideas on where to go for tutorials on all the things mentioned here would be awesome. I know there used to be some here, but I am pretty sure the old hard drive ate them.

Thanks again!

weevilman
25th May 2006, 12:04
I really do thank you all for your suggestions, even though it makes me realize how much I don't know about this stuff.

that's cool dude, as far as tutorials go, they probably won't help as much as they should, they are mostly about process and not enough theory, they tell you what to do, not why.

i'll whip up a quick breakdown of the things i mentioned for ya, might be more useful, gimme a couple of days. :D

Parker Midwinter
25th May 2006, 18:20
well... regardless of the lighting it definately looks like the Beast, i like it. well done.

Bar
11th Jun 2006, 21:29
Small update time!
I "finished" detailing the landing bays, lowered all the plates, worked on the bottom, and played around with lights. It was all fun and games until I went to render the lighted version. My computer was NOT amused!

All comments welcome and appriciated...
It's getting better all the time.
Bar.

Nevets
12th Jun 2006, 16:14
Bar that is one very cool avatar.

Bar
12th Jun 2006, 16:33
It's just a picture an ensign took of me when i was looking the other way...

AldrikG
14th Jun 2006, 09:39
Just playing around with lights and stuff.
If anyone can point me in the direction of a tutorial on burning lighting into the textures, it would be greatly appriciated!

Bar, I like your avatar a lot (even though I try not to encourage Trekkies). :devil:

DiSiLLUSiON
14th Jun 2006, 09:46
Wow, that looks really, really good.

One nitpick: in the first picture, the hangar bays look very strange, probably because you can't see any perspective lines. Maybe you could add some details in there, or even a light source or something, to add depth?

MadKoiFish
14th Jun 2006, 09:55
Are you usiing omnis or spots? If the prior try spots, omnis eat tonnes of cpu to calculate. Love teh head shape on those narrow 3/4 views

Mox
14th Jun 2006, 12:31
Hi A ;-)

Some constructive criticism here:

Could be me but the Head of the beast still looks a little 'off'.
The 'skullsplit' needs to be widened just a little if I'm not mistaken
and the flat top panneling area's on both sides might be better of with a very small touch of widening them.
The 'cheeckbones' seem to be just a little too wide or their angle towards the top is too soft perhaps?
The lower headarea from which the 'skullsplit' emerges could do with a little more bevelling, adding to the impression of the thick armor plating she carries.
Does this make sense at all? perhaps I'm totally vague about what I mean :eek:

The best views for this are from the episode 'The Captain's Hand', S2 E17.
Both the opening of this episode and the moment Pegasus Jumps into the unknown show good views of her front.
I made a very short movie from the E17 for you, its also got some screens in the zip (7zipped), hope you can use it: http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=6521102
Play without sound cause I slowed everything down for better reference purposes..or play with sound if you wanna have a good laugh :D

Then again, you might soooo completely not care :lol:
She looks great..some of the lights seem a little to diffused? others are spot on I'd say. Would love to see what texture's you'd have in mind :thumb:

Bar
14th Jun 2006, 17:07
Bar, I like your avatar a lot (even though I try not to encourage Trekkies). :devil:
It's ok.
I'm not a Trekkie(I just like the image. My brother made it for me in photoshop).
I don't really look as cool as that either (http://www.freephoto-i.net/displayimage.php?album=1088&pos=36)...;)

And the ship looks good to me(I'm not an expert on the Pegasus, but it would fool me into thinking it's accurate).
Bar.

BAKMS
14th Jun 2006, 20:12
Sweet !!!

xeeleeprime
1st Jul 2006, 07:10
I just found y'all a few days ago, but your images of the Pegasus are exactly what I've been looking for. (I'm in Northwestern Wisconsin, I served in Florida in the Navy, and my accent is kinda weird.)

Sublime majesty, fantastic detail!!!

Harbinger of Doom
1st Jul 2006, 07:33
In a word:
Badass.

niraa67
1st Jul 2006, 09:35
Look good there man:D

Elowan
1st Jul 2006, 17:07
Frelling gorgeous

Kai
2nd Jul 2006, 02:25
Hi, i've posted on SFM before the big crash of doom, btu anyway - if you're looking for info on the Pegasus, theres always BattlestarWiki - and yes, we're anally retentive about detail :D

There are a few HD 1080i detail shots of the Beast and the Bucket/BigG that might be handy for closeups :)

If you cant find a shot you're looking for, i have every ep and the miniseries in HR HDTV format and would take a screenie if needed ;)

Paveway
2nd Jul 2006, 08:33
Hangars look strange because you need some deck markings.

Bar
2nd Jul 2006, 11:27
Hi, i've posted on SFM before the big crash of doom, btu anyway - if you're looking for info on the Pegasus, theres always BattlestarWiki - and yes, we're anally retentive about detail :D
Ahh, the BattlestarWiki
My daily fix of all things BSG...

Sauron18
3rd Jul 2006, 06:42
That's a very nice Pegasus model you've got there:D

Beomoose
4th Jul 2006, 06:01
That's one pretty Peggy!

JustinDixon
4th Jul 2006, 06:06
dear lord... Looks really nice. May we see a closeup of the cannons?

AldrikG
5th Jul 2006, 20:06
Not so much an update as filling a request. :D
Work has been really busy lately and I haven't had much "spare" time for building.
Thanks for all the nice comments!


dear lord... Looks really nice. May we see a closeup of the cannons?

Bar
5th Jul 2006, 21:24
Mmmmm.... Cannons....
bar.

Paveway
6th Jul 2006, 06:15
Does Pegasus have *any* small caliber guns like the Galactica? Ihave assumed not, since I can find no gun'ish looking grebel on the Pegasus, and did not recall seeing light caliber AA tracer fire in the various battles - just the big guns and viper's fire.

AldrikG
6th Jul 2006, 08:57
Does Pegasus have *any* small caliber guns like the Galactica? Ihave assumed not, since I can find no gun'ish looking grebel on the Pegasus, and did not recall seeing light caliber AA tracer fire in the various battles - just the big guns and viper's fire.

As far as I can tell, Pegasus doesn't have any small guns. Just the regular cannons, and the Big Mammas up front.

adamkon
6th Jul 2006, 09:43
Amazing work so far :thumb:

Madbrood
6th Jul 2006, 11:30
Outstanding work :)

As for the Pegasus' armament- I think it's fairly safe to assume that she does have some lighter AA-style weaponry, it doesn't make sense for her not to have it.

-Mike

Darth Malice
6th Jul 2006, 11:52
Amazing, keep it up man...:thumb:

StarSlayer
6th Jul 2006, 12:26
think they hid her smaller KEWs in the ridges between the plate armor i think scale wize you could fit Viper in those trenches so you could fit AAA in their 2. Plus i Cappies hand shes throwing out a lot of fire that doesn't just seem 2 be composed of HRT rounds

Larsen
6th Jul 2006, 12:34
Sweet mate:thumb:

Paveway
7th Jul 2006, 02:36
Outstanding work :)

As for the Pegasus' armament- I think it's fairly safe to assume that she does have some lighter AA-style weaponry, it doesn't make sense for her not to have it.

-Mike

Still there is not one light AA turret on the ship, nor one seen firing in the show. We have some pretty detailed shots on screen, and there is nothing with a barrel like Galactica's rib guns.

I dont think so. We know she is far newer than Galactica, although not the newest ship in the fleet (needing a overhaul).

For the early to mid part of WWII, US ships had 5" dual purpose guns, 40mm and 20mm guns for AA. The bigger, the longer ranged.

Towards the end of the war, as kamikazis began appearing, it was discovered that the 20mm and 40mm were approaching the point of being useless. They damaged the aircraft, but when it is hell bent on ramming your ship, you literally needed to disintegrate it. Or by chance the smaller guns caused enough damage to blow it up, the debris still hit the ship. The needed to do more damage farther out so the planes would crach/be destroyed before they could hit. Hence after the war the 3" AA was developed to replace 40mm mounts, and 20mm were removed all together. Plus add to the fact superior sensors and targeting made the 5" more effective and there were less and less a/c getting through to 40mm or 20mm range.

So I can see rational for moving to a all dual purpose battery like pegasus has, but the thing is, all those guns are along the midline, and all except a few on the flight pods "hang" down-meaning very limited dorsal coverage.

Still something like a CIWS for missiles would be useful on the Pegasus, but she doesnt have any.

Still given the battles we have witnessed, a modern light AA would be useful for the Pegasus.

Chalk it up to interwar design and Colonials wrongly guessing of how the next Cylon war would progress. Perhaps they thought it would be a stand off fight and they wouldnt need hundreds of AA guns.

Alexzandyr
7th Jul 2006, 02:47
Someone once suggested that the Pegasus has small CIWS like used aboard US ships. They serve the same purpose as the WWII era AA emplacements, except that these are far more advanced in tracking and destroying incoming threats. This would mean the Pegasus would only have a hand full, and they might be small enough that we have yet to see them on the model.

chrisbarnett20
3rd Sep 2006, 18:22
how about some ortho views

hyperdrive
3rd Sep 2006, 18:55
I not sure to ask this question but to me this seems the most logical place. The work on your peqasus is fantastic.and I eagerly await more photo's Are you the same person who had this particular project under the heading the beast. Thanks

Endeavour
3rd Sep 2006, 20:15
Actually, Pegasus has a HUGE number of small cannons, and their fire can been seen quite clearly in the Resurrection Ship battle. I'll see if I can find a screenie for ya...

chrisbarnett20
7th Sep 2006, 15:29
^ and in captain's hand. but arn't they the frak guns - like the small AA's on the flight pods of galactica?

JSNMECH
7th Sep 2006, 15:54
Very cool. I like the Beast. I gotta learn how to do this.

j

JustinDixon
7th Sep 2006, 16:37
^ and in captain's hand. but arn't they the frak guns - like the small AA's on the flight pods of galactica?

"frak guns" lmao

chrisbarnett20
7th Sep 2006, 23:10
"frak guns" lmao

Ecspecialy for the cylon raiders. :cool:

AldrikG
8th Sep 2006, 01:10
Hiya gang.
I was kinda suprised (in a good way!) to see this thread alive again. I haven't done any work on the Beast since my last renders. I am spending what little time I have away from work building the Agamamenon and refitting the Galactica.


Are you the same person who had this particular project under the heading the beast. Thanks

That wasn't me. I think that was Dac, but I am not sure. There were 2 or three other Pegasus threads before the old hard drive ate them.

Despite the dire predictions of Al3d I am hoping for some more reference SOON! 4 weeks, 1 Day, 1 Hour and change until season 3!!!!!

Thanks again for the posts and comments.

Dac
8th Sep 2006, 01:15
Yep it was me, and im still working on it....infact ive some a long way on it, perhaps i should post some updates soon :)

and AldrikG, make it 5 weeks. ;)

Paveway
9th Sep 2006, 04:24
Actually, Pegasus has a HUGE number of small cannons, and their fire can been seen quite clearly in the Resurrection Ship battle. I'll see if I can find a screenie for ya...

Thats tracer fire from the Vipers. There have been no on screen shots of smaller AA fire coming from the Pegasus nor any grebels on her hull of anything resembling Galatica's AA guns.

Give me a screen shot of a small gun firing and I will believe you, but all the shots we've seen have had scores of Vipers flying around firing which I believe is what you are refering to...

Paveway
9th Sep 2006, 04:26
"frak guns" lmao

Flak Guns.

Frack is their fu(k, it wouldn't make sense to have fu(k guns. Flak originates from a German term refering to AA shells that exploded at preset altitudes to spread shrapnel, or explod with proximity fuses.

Flak guns.

bobafett
10th Sep 2006, 03:24
Fantastic Stuff!

Endeavour
10th Sep 2006, 04:33
Thats tracer fire from the Vipers. There have been no on screen shots of smaller AA fire coming from the Pegasus nor any grebels on her hull of anything resembling Galatica's AA guns.

Give me a screen shot of a small gun firing and I will believe you, but all the shots we've seen have had scores of Vipers flying around firing which I believe is what you are refering to...

No, it's not from the Vipers. The fire is coming from the space between the large armor plates on her flight pod (as well as other places but that's the most obvious). I haven't found a screen shot on the net, but I have the episode on iTunes, so trust me, she has little guns akin to Galactica's.

Paveway
10th Sep 2006, 18:26
No, it's not from the Vipers. The fire is coming from the space between the large armor plates on her flight pod (as well as other places but that's the most obvious). I haven't found a screen shot on the net, but I have the episode on iTunes, so trust me, she has little guns akin to Galactica's.

So in the "trench" area?

There are the larger turrets in there. I've watched it several times and I am not seeing it...

Viper launch tubes are right there, perhaps its a Viper firing just after launch?

Endeavour
11th Sep 2006, 03:39
No. From the regularity of the fire, the size, and the location, it's obviously from Galactica-style small guns. It's coming from a different trench area than the large guns, and it's above the viper tubes, and it's all along the pod, so...

Dallidas
11th Sep 2006, 04:17
perhaps some one should PM Al3d, he did work on some of the BSG models.

cobywan
11th Sep 2006, 15:31
I don't think he had anything to do with Pegasus. Jose Perez was the modeler for Pegasus if I understand correctly.

AldrikG
12th Sep 2006, 23:46
Thumnails?!?
GREAT idea!

I was having so much fun with using material colors on the Bucket, I had to give the Beast the same treatment. Funny how much cooler stuff looks with even a little color.

Show me a flak gun and I will put them in. Until then, I ain't touching nuthin!

shipfisher
13th Sep 2006, 00:21
This beast looks like it could take on anything...by the dozen. Adama needs to trade-up. :D

Dallidas
13th Sep 2006, 02:34
I don't think he had anything to do with Pegasus. Jose Perez was the modeler for Pegasus if I understand correctly.

he still worked on BSG though, so im sure he knows or could find out.

cobywan
13th Sep 2006, 02:40
There are a lot of freelancers that work on the show that probably don't share thier work. I think every artist is bound by contract to not publish work without permision.

Of course I am talking out of my rear, but I've seen a ton of requests for Pegasus and MKVII references be shot down or just ignored.

So even if he does know, that doesn't mean he can share. I've seen people get in trouble because of this stuff. It sucks for everybody involved.

Back to topic. I think the Pegasus has a much more "metalic" sheen to it.

Dallidas
13th Sep 2006, 02:43
true. altohugh he HAS posted orthos on the mining ship he textured. But it is true that he might not be able to share about something he didnt make.

mattc
13th Sep 2006, 15:04
Don't ask for copyrighted material. It's pointless and insulting to expect someone to post such material.

M.

Endeavour
14th Sep 2006, 04:44
In "Resurrection Ship Part II", during the scene where the one basestar is destroyed and has the glowy cloud going around it, and we are seeing it as if from a camera on the Beast's hull, and then there are some explosions on "behind" us, and the camera pans over and changes angles or whatnot, the small gun fire can be clearly seen for a few seconds. There's your proof, sorry I have yet to find a screen shot of that exact second.

Endeavour
2nd Oct 2006, 03:03
And here's the screenie. I was even kind enough to highlight the areas where the fire is coming from for you. And Paveway, before you even start on the Vipers in the tubes argument, the fire is coming from along the edge of the upper half of the flight pod, not from below where the Viper tubes are. There's also the fire coming from the front of the pod to consider as well.

cobywan
2nd Oct 2006, 21:04
Looks like it's coming from Vipers already outside the ship. The firing certainly looks more like it's headed towards the Pagasus or at least parallel to to it.

Dallidas
3rd Oct 2006, 00:43
i going to have to agree with endeavour. the way the shots contrails are forming suggest its going away from the ship not towards it and it seems too big to be form the vipers.

Endeavour
3rd Oct 2006, 03:12
Thanks, Dallidas. Sorry about the quality of the pic, but if you go through this scene frame by frame (and I have) you can clearly see the tracer rounds coming from the Pegasus.

Dallidas
3rd Oct 2006, 03:28
could u make a short avi of all the frames?

Endeavour
3rd Oct 2006, 04:35
Sadly, no, because my computer doesn't have a DVD drive, nor do I have any programs that I could use to work with any such materials. However, even though it's low quality, I do know of a video on youtube that shows that particular scene, and I can post a link and the exact time index if you would like me to.

AldrikG
3rd Oct 2006, 08:39
Nnnoooooooooo!!!!!


And here's the screenie. I was even kind enough to highlight the areas where the fire is coming from for you. And Paveway, before you even start on the Vipers in the tubes argument, the fire is coming from along the edge of the upper half of the flight pod, not from below where the Viper tubes are. There's also the fire coming from the front of the pod to consider as well.

SON OF A B&^%@!!!!!

Nice catch.

<grumbles about the unfairness of it all and heads to the Battlestar Pegasus greeble factory>

Endeavour
3rd Oct 2006, 15:07
Thanks. I found it on Battlestarwiki. And don't feel too bad about it, since the greebles don't really show up on the actual model. There are some good shots of the flight pods in "Pegasus" (particularly the extended version), if that helps at all.

Dallidas
3rd Oct 2006, 15:12
sure i would like to see it.

Parker Midwinter
3rd Oct 2006, 19:31
as you watch the battle unfolding in Pegasus and in "Captains Hand" there is clearly AA fire comming from the beast. where the guns are is still unclear [maybe someone should email the question to zoic?] but the guns are there.

cobywan
4th Oct 2006, 02:54
Funny. Whein I go through the scene frame by frame from my High Def TS file the tracers are running toward the Pegasus. It's only 10 frames or so where you can even see them so an AVI would be useless.

There is a TON of debris and random fire throughout that shot.

Dallidas
4th Oct 2006, 03:17
going by the trails on that shot, they are moving away from the pegasus, not towards it and its not to or 3 of them its all of them. If they were, then the trails would be the other way around.

cobywan
4th Oct 2006, 03:24
I'm working on getting those frames in a presentable format.

mattc
4th Oct 2006, 03:53
as you watch the battle unfolding in Pegasus and in "Captains Hand" there is clearly AA fire comming from the beast. where the guns are is still unclear [maybe someone should email the question to zoic?] but the guns are there.

There aren't any guns on it ala the galactica. I asked Jose.

M.

cobywan
4th Oct 2006, 03:54
It looks like any small AA batterie fire is coming out of the cracks in the armor.

JustinDixon
4th Oct 2006, 04:31
There aren't any guns on it ala the galactica. I asked Jose.

M.

That's true, but does not discredit the comment you're replying to because there IS gunfire, not heavy caliber either, it's there, you can see it, and if you cant, you're blind - it's just that obvious. He may not have modeled any gun hardpoints, but that doesnt mean they dont exist.

StarSlayer
4th Oct 2006, 04:43
Plus militarily it wouldn't make sense to not build a BSG without some sort of CIWS. The most obvious place would be to have them placed in the cracks since they are around the same size as a viper.

cobywan
4th Oct 2006, 04:50
The Frak cannons are all in the trenches along the sides of the bow and flight pods. But the gattling style AA batteries are invisible.

It wouldn't be the first time animators fudged the facts to make a more dynamic scene. Look at classic Trek for instance. They have phasers and torpedos coming off the same dome.

nhall
4th Oct 2006, 04:50
I love the pegasus. She's like a... whale that can kick everyone's ass.

Cheers,
Nick

mattc
4th Oct 2006, 07:11
That's true, but does not discredit the comment you're replying to because there IS gunfire, not heavy caliber either, it's there, you can see it, and if you cant, you're blind - it's just that obvious. He may not have modeled any gun hardpoints, but that doesnt mean they dont exist.

My only comment was about what physically exists on the model. The original comment noted emailing Zoic. Since Jose created it, I asked him directly. The model is already difficult enough to render without adding spurious detail that you never see.

M.

JustinDixon
4th Oct 2006, 07:15
it's that high poly/high res maps eh? dang, I always thought it looked kinda.. low polyish.

Endeavour
5th Oct 2006, 15:25
Frak, I started an argument. Sorry. And I'll post that link to the youtube video later. Probably much later, since my dad accidentally fried our wireless internet radio (he set it up upside down and it rained., but hey, **** happens, particularly when you're residing a house) and the school seems to have youtube blocked on all of the computers. I'll check the admin computer in a minute, though, and see if that works.

Edit: Scratch that, even the admin computer has it blocked, oddly enough.

AldrikG
6th Oct 2006, 19:37
It's BSG day today!

Darth Malice
6th Oct 2006, 19:54
It's BSG day today!
Yeah, cant wait. Peggys looking fantastic BTW...:thumb:

Tovette
6th Oct 2006, 20:50
looking pretty cool man!

strangeman
6th Oct 2006, 21:26
Wow it's fantastic. Great work on details... amazing !

vf-1msx
7th Oct 2006, 05:29
Goood work :thumb:

Lee80
7th Oct 2006, 05:59
nice job. i really like the engines...

airforce
7th Oct 2006, 17:12
I appreciate the good shots of the Pegasus.They were fantastic!!
Anyone know if there are any schematics available yet!!

General_Zod
7th Oct 2006, 20:38
man she looks so mean.

Beomoose
12th Oct 2006, 18:38
Thats why they call her the Beast.

Digital Daydream
13th Oct 2006, 00:39
she's looking better each time i see her very very nice

Tveakk
17th Oct 2006, 20:50
wow, it seems like u spent some time on this great model.

no_mad11
17th Oct 2006, 21:22
Absolutely Amazing!:thumb:

JeffrySG
17th Oct 2006, 21:31
those last three shots were really nice!

I'm hoping to see the beast in some good action scenes this season (3)!
...and maybe we'll finally be able to get some good screen grabs of her from all sides, etc.

GotAFarmYet?
18th Oct 2006, 08:25
It's BSG day today!

The lights on the hangers are not correct. The port and starboard ones are reversed for the lower hangers. Other than that she seems to be coming along beautifully

DarkSapiens
18th Oct 2006, 16:26
Are you sure? Think that fighters land in the lower hangars in reversed position (up is down, I can't find the word now :D )

Bar
18th Oct 2006, 17:34
Inverted?

DarkSapiens
18th Oct 2006, 17:53
I just checked some scenes from the episode "Pegasus", and the forward lights on the port pod are right. But I think they could be changed to drive the traffic in one direction or another whenever it's necessary. That would be logical...

vf-1msx
21st Oct 2006, 05:13
poor Pegasus:( :(

GotAFarmYet?
21st Oct 2006, 07:19
I just checked some scenes from the episode "Pegasus", and the forward lights on the port pod are right. But I think they could be changed to drive the traffic in one direction or another whenever it's necessary. That would be logical...

It would make sense, and they are correct from shots I saw tonight on TV.
Lots of good combat shots of the Pegasus tonight. Makes you wonder what that BattleStar could have done with a full crew and combat wing 4 base stars seem to be possible then.

Can't wait to see what you do with this mesh for wallpapers once you finish it

AJ_Talon
22nd Oct 2006, 05:28
Damn... They blew her up. Well, at least she went out with a bang, huh?

AldrikG, think you might be willing to mod the Peggie in her last, glorious moments?

JeffrySG
22nd Oct 2006, 08:00
Damn... They blew her up. Well, at least she went out with a bang, huh?
AldrikG, think you might be willing to mod the Peggie in her last, glorious moments?
not to have any spoilers but this weeks episode (in the US anyway) was FRACKKIN' great... now back to our scheduled show...

Elowan
22nd Oct 2006, 16:16
She shall live on thnx to this mesh!

dilbertman
22nd Oct 2006, 21:11
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here goes.

alecm.com (http://alecm.com/gallery.htm)

Jim:cool:

AldrikG
22nd Oct 2006, 23:43
Wow.
I was out of town and I just finished watching a tape of the episode. Besides creating (in my humble opinion) one of the best hours of sci-fi television EVER, they sure did give the Beast a beautiful exit.
Thanks for the link Dilbertman, those grabs are awesome.
As always, thanks to everyone for the comments.

I am still stunned by that truely amazing episode.
Wow

Cyba_storm
23rd Oct 2006, 00:00
Thanks guys. We are still watching series 2 here in Australia. I don't have a problem with the spoilers, I JUST WANT TO SEE IT. G3 gets here NEXT AUGUST!!!!!

I wonder how long before the G3 box set is out..................?

ray243
23rd Oct 2006, 05:04
If you really want to watch the sequence, go youtube and look for it.

The galactica Jump

YouTube - BSG: 'Exodus' - Galactica Does a Belly Flop in New Caprica (http://youtube.com/watch?v=t7SBeJ9Kb40)

The Pegasus death

YouTube - Battlestar Galactica: S03 E04: Pegasus's Last Battle (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_LtW1VhYIUY)

Nadesico
23rd Oct 2006, 05:50
I just found this in a zip file i got of reference images. I'm not sure whether it was from this thread or at starshipbuilder.com, but anway.

The Pegasus flight pods retract! I thought they were fixed in an open position, the BSG wiki seems to think so as well.

Here's the image. It's the Studio model of PEgasus with her pods locked up. They appear to rise along the diagonal, rather then straight in sideways, like galactica. Which, technically, keeps on par with the strut shapes that hold the flight pods in place.

JustinDixon
23rd Oct 2006, 06:37
OMFG! I never watched the new episodes! OMG! amazing...

Kgoku28
23rd Oct 2006, 07:02
OMFG AldrikG the Pegasus, it look so like the really thing amazing. :cool: :flippy: :eek:

AldrikG
23rd Oct 2006, 08:09
I just found this in a zip file i got of reference images. I'm not sure whether it was from this thread or at starshipbuilder.com, but anway.


I've seen that shot too, Nadesico. It is a Photoshop fake done a while ago.

svobomil
23rd Oct 2006, 10:21
I havent seen that before, lovely.

TheCoredump
23rd Oct 2006, 21:38
I've seen that shot too, Nadesico. It is a Photoshop fake done a while ago.
Agree, it was very obvious when you looked at the original shot : in this one you can see some stars have been moved and duplicated

jaymel001
24th Oct 2006, 00:06
Awesome shots of the Pegasus!! I am building a model of it and this is a great help! A+++

kodex
24th Oct 2006, 07:31
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn they blew up the best ship of the show!!! for crying out loud!

Ravinmad
24th Oct 2006, 10:58
God Speed Battlestar Pegasus! ;_; (ps. gr8 model)

Gilmour
24th Oct 2006, 14:33
Very sad

/mourn for Pegasus death.

TrekMD
24th Oct 2006, 15:34
Does anyone know just how big is/was the Pegasus? She must be huge since the appears to much larger than a Cylon Basestar. Based on the crash scene, a Basestar is about the size of one of the pods on the Pegasus and the Basestars are huge to begin with!

Sauron18
24th Oct 2006, 22:53
Does anyone know just how big is/was the Pegasus? She must be huge since the appears to much larger than a Cylon Basestar. Based on the crash scene, a Basestar is about the size of one of the pods on the Pegasus and the Basestars are huge to begin with!

The Mercury Class Battlestars were described by Cain (In the Extended Version of "Pegasus") as being "Twice the size, needs half the crew" of Galactica.

So it's pretty big.

AldrikG
24th Oct 2006, 23:01
I don't think she was that big.
I have her at about a Galactica and a third in length.

Nadesico
25th Oct 2006, 00:39
why doesnt someone just ask someone from Zoic about the Pegasus size? Jobe Pereze built the model, but as mattc mentioned to me, there are a few others should should know. Alec Myclmont from alcem.com could be another. Rather then speculate, get it right from the horese mouth!

David Stifler
25th Oct 2006, 02:14
Twice the size is not the same as twice the length. She's about 1 1/3 times as long, maybe less, but her draught is also considerably greater, which would make her about twice the size.

Nadesico
25th Oct 2006, 02:22
twice the size can also refer to mass, rather then actually dimensions as well.

GotAFarmYet?
26th Oct 2006, 06:15
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here goes.

alecm.com (http://alecm.com)

Jim:cool:

Did not see it before but thanks for the link, was looking for something like this
:thumb:

Grim
26th Oct 2006, 15:18
I have spent so much time away from this site, i should slap myself.

This model looks absolutly fantastic. Id love to get my hands on it for some animations, but unfortunately im guessing you make it in MAX format which i personally couldnt import into LW3D. 3ds yes, max no.

Well, i can always just watch mouth open wide what will be done with this "Beast".

I kinda guessed they would blow up the pegasus eventually, just not so soon. Could have gone on for so long! Oh well, perhaps there could be another surviving battlestar out there? But as thats "been done", well, we just have to wait and see.

/sobs

General_Zod
27th Oct 2006, 00:15
I like this mesh so much I used a picture you posted as the main dvd menu pic.

pinchy417
27th Oct 2006, 20:00
Same with me and Blender, 3DS...maybe, MAX...not so much

Parker Midwinter
27th Oct 2006, 21:54
It would make sense, and they are correct from shots I saw tonight on TV.
Lots of good combat shots of the Pegasus tonight. Makes you wonder what that BattleStar could have done with a full crew and combat wing 4 base stars seem to be possible then.

Can't wait to see what you do with this mesh for wallpapers once you finish it

old military Axiom: A fair fight is one you didn't prepare for well enough before hand.

Fair fights are bad military strategy, going into a fight outgunned and outnumbered [but apparently not outclassed] is VERY bad strategy:nono:... but it was the only option... 4 Basestars would have likely cost them one fully crewed/outfitted Battlestar anyway... the reason the succeeded with the Resurrection ship was because Galactica and Pegasus were able to isolate a basestar, kill it, then move on to the next one

dadeo911
27th Oct 2006, 23:25
So I just have to ask... Will this be available for the public when you have completed it?

Grim
27th Oct 2006, 23:32
So I just have to ask... Will this be available for the public when you have completed it?

Would be very cool if it was. Would be even cooler if it could be converted to .lwo format (Or at least .3ds so LW can import it) :thumb:

mattc
28th Oct 2006, 02:53
Would be very cool if it was. Would be even cooler if it could be converted to .lwo format (Or at least .3ds so LW can import it) :thumb:

Don't even need to do that. I could port it in about 5-10 minutes most likely.

That is, if I was motivated enough

M

Nadesico
28th Oct 2006, 07:27
Or, if i could get motivated enough, i'd build myself a Mecury Class battlestar to this level of detail, in lightwave native...

Grim
28th Oct 2006, 12:27
Or, if i could get motivated enough, i'd build myself a Mecury Class battlestar to this level of detail, in lightwave native...

I lack the modelling skill at the moment to do this sort of thing. Im learning new stuff every day, but doing things myself just reading up tips here and there on google takes time. I've no doubt i'll be able to do something like this in the future, but not now. Im spending more time in Lightwave layout at the moment.

Elowan
29th Oct 2006, 14:35
Don't even need to do that. I could port it in about 5-10 minutes most likely.

That is, if I was motivated enough

M


Will a sharp stick do it?:devil:

al3d
29th Oct 2006, 15:51
would be nice to get a LWO...but...oh...no bother..i got the real one..;)

mattc
29th Oct 2006, 16:19
Will a sharp stick do it?:devil:

No. But saying 'please' often helps.

M

dadeo911
30th Oct 2006, 04:35
No chance a certain angry avatared individual would know of postings of orthographic shots of this model he has access to? Just strictly for reference purposes only of course. Like the ones Zoic released of BSG. A guy can hope anyway...

Dallidas
30th Oct 2006, 04:38
would be nice to get a LWO...but...oh...no bother..i got the real one..;)

just keep rubbing it in....:rolleyes: :D

mattc
30th Oct 2006, 05:54
No chance a certain angry avatared individual would know of postings of orthographic shots of this model he has access to? Just strictly for reference purposes only of course. Like the ones Zoic released of BSG. A guy can hope anyway...

Very doubtful.

mikala
30th Oct 2006, 06:03
Lol, Matt you are such an optimist:)

mattc
30th Oct 2006, 07:18
Lol, Matt you are such an optimist:)

No, just a realist.

M.

Grim
6th Nov 2006, 10:17
would be nice to get a LWO...but...oh...no bother..i got the real one..;)


Damn you :P

Haha, couldnt imagine using that real one. My computer would cry, grind to a holt and melt. Then it has to be rendered! See you christmas 2010

liljon
13th Nov 2006, 16:49
HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THE ESCAPE FROM CAPRICA EPISODE!!!!! DAMNIT. PS. nice 3d model.

GuitarEC
14th Nov 2006, 20:56
I, too would love to see an LWO of the Beast - LWO's import so much easier into Blender than 3DS... :runs:

In all seriousness - looking incredible. Wonderful work, and can't wait to see the finished work.

Eric "GuitarEC"
Blender 3D - Lightwave 3D

Nadesico
17th Nov 2006, 04:33
Btw, noone's actually asked this yet, but i figured i should.

How many polys is the finished Pegasus model, and how long was the total time it took for you to make it?

SKUPILKINSON
20th Nov 2006, 16:51
Amazing!:o

The detail is fantastic! Can't wait to see more dude.

Kepp up the great work.:thumb:

AldrikG
20th Nov 2006, 21:32
Hiya gang,


Btw, noone's actually asked this yet, but i figured i should.

How many polys is the finished Pegasus model, and how long was the total time it took for you to make it?

Right now, she weighs in at 838,176 polys. I can'y really give you a good answer as to how long I worked on her. I started somewhere between the "Pegasus" and "Ressurection Ship" episodes. Also, I split time between my 3 WIPs.

AG

Digital Daydream
28th Nov 2006, 15:55
got to be one of the best models on here

AldrikG
12th Jan 2007, 19:52
Hiya gang,

After long consideration, I have decided to release the Pegasus. I am uploading it now, and hopefully it will be available soon.

I want to thank everyone for their comments, critiques, and encouragement.

AG

DarkSapiens
12th Jan 2007, 19:56
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

What a great surprise!!!!

Which format was it made in? I don't remember :D

AldrikG
12th Jan 2007, 19:59
Max 6

mikala
12th Jan 2007, 20:04
She's a beauty!!!

backstept
12th Jan 2007, 20:04
you are the man! :thumb:

Tovette
12th Jan 2007, 20:05
Wow that's beautiful!

DarkSapiens
12th Jan 2007, 20:07
Max 6

Oh, what a pity... :(
Is there a chance you could upload it in .3ds or something for us non Max users to enjoy it?

Thanks in advance

AldrikG
12th Jan 2007, 20:16
I can give it a shot!
:D

Endeavour
12th Jan 2007, 20:34
Blast! My computer is being dumb and not loading that ortho up above. From the tiny little thumbnail it looks nice, though.

Infinity238
12th Jan 2007, 21:15
Time for some fleet renders!

scifieric
12th Jan 2007, 21:48
After long consideration, I have decided to release the Pegasus.
Very generous! She's pretty!

JustinDixon
13th Jan 2007, 16:05
OMG OMG!!! RELEASE!? I love you.

Andrew March
13th Jan 2007, 17:15
Very kind of you AldrikG, now let's see some pretty renders of her (when she gets approved).

MickJo
13th Jan 2007, 22:07
A release?, i love you too.

Andrew March
14th Jan 2007, 10:38
Looks like the upload didn't work Aldrik, any chance you can try again.

Animaniac
14th Jan 2007, 11:05
Think it takes a while that the MOD aproved it.

Elffin
14th Jan 2007, 14:13
fantastic work! if its release- where can you download the Pegasus?

Elowan
14th Jan 2007, 14:35
Very kind. Many thnx. I await approval from the mod(s).

Grim
14th Jan 2007, 16:17
Fantastic news for a fantastic mesh. Will be having lots of fun and rendering to the best of my ability!

Love the model so much.


Where's a MOD when you need one, AUTH AUTH AUTH!!

Andrew March
14th Jan 2007, 17:15
Actually there are no models waiting approval, so the upload didn't work.

Grim
14th Jan 2007, 19:03
Actually there are no models waiting approval, so the upload didn't work.

Thats disappointing. Hopfully he'll be back soon enough to re-upload

AldrikG
14th Jan 2007, 20:49
Actually there are no models waiting approval, so the upload didn't work.

ACK!

Lemme try it again

Andrew March
14th Jan 2007, 21:06
I know a couple of people have had some problems uploading models, it says everything went okay, but in fact it didn't.

Might be worth your while dropping a Mod or Admin a line after you upload it just to be sure it's worked.

Thanks again for the release Aldrik

AldrikG
14th Jan 2007, 21:06
Tried it again, but it was kinda wonky. So, you might get one, two, or no versions up there. Sorry Mods. Its what I get for trying to upload it before I've had my coffee today.

Grim
14th Jan 2007, 23:09
Tried it again, but it was kinda wonky. So, you might get one, two, or no versions up there. Sorry Mods. Its what I get for trying to upload it before I've had my coffee today.

Do you have some space to up to until sfm have it uploaded?

Cyba_storm
15th Jan 2007, 03:38
'Its what I get for trying to upload it before I've had my coffee today.' Quote from AldrikG
_________________
"Coffee" the universal lubricant. Everything runs smoother with coffee._

Grim
15th Jan 2007, 19:43
Any news?

Either the website has gone to sleep, or the mods have :P

Andrew March
15th Jan 2007, 19:51
Nope I'm afraid the upload didn't work again.

AldrikG, if you take a look in the SFM support forum you'll see a thread for models waiting approval. When you upload a model post a note in that thread and the mods will check the status of your upload. if the upload hasn't worked a mod will walk you through the process and flag any issues to the admins for resolution.

Grim
16th Jan 2007, 12:39
Hope it works soon, my 30 day 3dsmax trial runs out and I wont be able to convert into lightwave unless its exported as a .obj (Don't like importing .3ds, every polygon gets triangulated)

Samurai
16th Jan 2007, 13:30
Dropping in to note that I've been in touch with AldrikG about his upload issues, I've given a couple of suggestions, but it seems we're in different time zones judging by the activity patterns. The administrators are aware of the issues with uploads, and I'm working to rule out any issues at Aldrik's end. :)

Do bear with us- I'm pretty sure the problems lie with the upload server and control software, and we're working on it to make sure it gets fixed properly. :)

so if you boys can de-foam and hold your horses for just a little while- Aldrik is releasing it, SFM are hosting it, we just have to make sure its done right. ;)

JustinDixon
16th Jan 2007, 18:39
I say toss it on Scifi-3d for the time being until sfm can resolve their server issues.

Elowan
18th Jan 2007, 16:48
What's the problem with this upload? I assumed with the site down yesterday that this issue had been resolved.:(

AldrikG
18th Jan 2007, 17:51
What's the problem with this upload? I assumed with the site down yesterday that this issue had been resolved.:(

I keep trying, but the upload doesn't take. Looks like a server issue, as others are having similar results.

I'll keep trying though.

AG

DarkSapiens
18th Jan 2007, 18:06
Don't you realise? It's all part of a psychological experiment. They're trying to determinate how much time can we wait for one of the most wanted models before desperation drives us nuts. :D

We have to be patient, guys! We can resist!

AldrikG
18th Jan 2007, 18:25
I just tried it again, this time I deleted my cookies, looged in and "uploaded" the file.

<crosses fingers>

Endeavour
18th Jan 2007, 22:46
It does not appear to have worked.

1of33
18th Jan 2007, 22:50
You will just have to wait until a Mod see`s it

JustinDixon
18th Jan 2007, 23:13
they have, they keep a semi-close eye on this thread.

backstept
18th Jan 2007, 23:33
yeah I usually check it whenever I see this thread on the first page in 'New Posts'

most likely other mods do as well