Star Wars projects thread

[fractalsponge]

So I'm going to try and condense 3d my stuff into 1 thread - easier to keep track of. I had a lot of old stuff here before the crash, but I'll start off with something I started this weekend:

http://fractalsponge.net/tie/1x.jpg

[TheGreatRaja]

oooh Greeblefest! :) nice work

[derelict]

It's good to see you back fractal :) Is it just me or might that be Vader's Tie?

The amount of detail is amazing!

[Jedilaw]

Good to see you back, Ansel! I look forward to seeing this model progress.

[alanch90]

insane detail!

[SCIFI 3D zoo]

I think that's what he was working on last and it does look like Vader's Tie. Awesome detailing.

[Bug 2000]

Hi.

Welcome back Ansel.

Take care mate.

[Dallidas]

looks awesome mate!:thumbs:

[ravenwing]

Fine work,, nice detail and neat yet not over done ,,:thumb:

[Northern_Mind]

I love it, but i think i speak for everyone here when i say

"We want more!" :D

[Samurai]

Hey Ansel- you've got a lot of catching up to do, Simon's Y Wing is much closer to completion....

:runs:

[DarthMaya]

That looks soo cool! wohoo :D

[Nutsy]

weeeeeeeeee geebles.... :D Really nice work as always

[Novak]

Incredible details.. Great work

[Larsen]

Sweet stuff mate:thumb:... Yeah I too think it's way easier to have all the models in one thread... just hope we don't get attached to one model in particular... then you won't hear anything but: "nice... but hows it coming on this or that model"

Very annoying :D

[al3d]

Looks awsome man..:)....care to share some statistics?...

[fractalsponge]

^ I try not to look at poly stats until it's done - less scary that way :)

This is indeed Vader's TIE, for those who haven't figured it out already. But for those that haven't seen them already (since the thread died with the crash), here are the other members of the series I've done:

TIE interceptor:

http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/thumbs/33.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/33.jpg)
http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/thumbs/34.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/34.jpg)

TIE Fighter:
http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/thumbs/12.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/12.jpg)
http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/thumbs/w.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/tie/gallery/w.jpg)

More at: http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/

So hopefully I can keep everything straight in a condensed thread. I have some old stuff I'll dredge up again eventually, for anyone new to SFM since the crash.

[Jedilaw]

Sweet stuff mate:thumb:... Yeah I too think it's way easier to have all the models in one thread... just hope we don't get attached to one model in particular... then you won't hear anything but: "nice... but hows it coming on this or that model"

Very annoying :D

Speaking from experience much? :lol:

@Ansel: Jesus, Mary, and Joseph that's a lot of details on those TIE Fighters!

[SCIFI 3D zoo]

I was looking on your site... I didn't know you finished the droidekka. You completely modelled it with the normal "fractalsponge" detailing?

[Ozylot]

Thats pretty intense. Love it, do more ;) :thumb:

[fractalsponge]

Sweet stuff mate:thumb:... Yeah I too think it's way easier to have all the models in one thread... just hope we don't get attached to one model in particular... then you won't hear anything but: "nice... but hows it coming on this or that model"

Very annoying :D

I tend to get obsessive about the ISD myself, so I'll try not to post much of that and keep with other projects :)


I was looking on your site... I didn't know you finished the droidekka. You completely modelled it with the normal "fractalsponge" detailing?

Such as that is, yes :)

There are parts of it that I would like to redo, and maybe add to (like the back carapace), but otherwise I'm happy with it modelling wise. Needs textures of course, but it may be a while before I get it looking realistic. Not much of the WIPs are online, since I finished with it before I got my current site up and running. Eventually I'll put some of it up for people who haven't seen it before.

[stonky]

Great work!

Speaking as someone who is undergoing a TIE fighter as well I can appreciate how much of a pain it can be to plow through all of that minute detail, but you seem to eat it up. :) Can't wait to see more of the Vader model!

Again, kudos.

[fractalsponge]

^your's is looking mighty good too, I may add :)

Anyways, results from tonight's work:

http://fractalsponge.net/tie/2x.jpg

[Lee80]

very nice..:) lots of detail..me like :D

[Dallidas]

sweet!

[ChrisGFX]

wheee ... the master of details is back ;)

awesome work!

Greets

Chris

[Larsen]

:eek!: Insane detail there mate!

[Lt. Washburn]

Really nice. Have you seen Mike Verta's Tie? http://www.mikeverta.com/

I only mention it for the wing material he replicated. You might email him on that.

[stonky]

Incredible, just incredible.

I still have the original kit from it's first release that I put together when I was 7 years old, so this ship holds a special place in my heart. :)

[Jedilaw]

Okay, I have to ask: what the hell are you using for references? I've never seen any shots, even of the studio model, that show the level of detail you're modelling.


Or are you taking the original design and adding even more detail?!? I shudder to think what a Falcon mesh would look like, done to your uber-degree of detail...mind, it's a good shuder, but still...

[al3d]

Okay, I have to ask: what the hell are you using for references? I've never seen any shots, even of the studio model, that show the level of detail you're modelling.


Or are you taking the original design and adding even more detail?!? I shudder to think what a Falcon mesh would look like, done to your uber-degree of detail...mind, it's a good shuder, but still...

ther<s lot of references in books actually..as to the falcon, well..he can't realy add more then i did..i included them all..LOL

[REL777]

Some excellent Star Wars reference here.

http://www.pinotblogger.com/star_wars_reference_photos/

[fractalsponge]

ther<s lot of references in books actually..as to the falcon, well..he can't realy add more then i did..i included them all..LOL

Yes, I think the terminal falcon mesh has been made :D.

As for references, I'm mainly working off this:
http://www.steinschneider.com/props/star_wars/vader_tie/vader_tie_04.jpg

In other words, much of the detail on this part of the tie is mine (i.e. there's no second level of greeble under the grille on the studio model).

Some of the studio TIE models leave something to be desired, detail wise, I think. The fighter and the interceptor were quite detailed (though obviously not like the ISD), but the bomber and x1 models weren't quite so detailed. So I take the best-detailed sections of the best model as a baseline for detail, and whenever the studio model doesn't come up to par, I fill in until I'm happy with it. It helps once you have a critical mass of TIE components that you can play around with to supplement new detail for the unique spaces you need to work with.

Also there are parts of the models I just can't see due to lighting, focus of the refs, etc., so for those sections I can just go wild in :). I'm willing to bet the inset area on the studio model doesn't have as much greeble as I've crammed into it on my mesh.

There are some studio models I'll never practically be able to match, like the SSD and ISD, but on the scale of starfighters it's rather simple to make a cgi model more geometrically rich than the older physical one.

[fractalsponge]

Oh and that site is great rel, thanks :).

[stonky]

I always liked the grille type vents on the back of this craft - the pattern always reminded me of the lights on the interior walls of the death star.

[Jedilaw]

Yes, I think the terminal falcon mesh has been made :D.

As for references, I'm mainly working off this:
http://www.steinschneider.com/props/star_wars/vader_tie/vader_tie_04.jpg

In other words, much of the detail on this part of the tie is mine (i.e. there's no second level of greeble under the grille on the studio model).

Some of the studio TIE models leave something to be desired, detail wise, I think. The fighter and the interceptor were quite detailed (though obviously not like the ISD), but the bomber and x1 models weren't quite so detailed. So I take the best-detailed sections of the best model as a baseline for detail, and whenever the studio model doesn't come up to par, I fill in until I'm happy with it. It helps once you have a critical mass of TIE components that you can play around with to supplement new detail for the unique spaces you need to work with.

Also there are parts of the models I just can't see due to lighting, focus of the refs, etc., so for those sections I can just go wild in :). I'm willing to bet the inset area on the studio model doesn't have as much greeble as I've crammed into it on my mesh.

There are some studio models I'll never practically be able to match, like the SSD and ISD, but on the scale of starfighters it's rather simple to make a cgi model more geometrically rich than the older physical one.

1) That's the first time I've ever heard someone say that ILM's models weren't detailed enough.:o To match them is one thing, to go beyond them is another thing altogether. Truly, Insane Detail.:cool:

2) You may not match the SSD, because the references just don't show all of the details, but I'd say you've matched the ISD. If not, you've come so close as to make no difference.

[fractalsponge]

1) That's the first time I've ever heard someone say that ILM's models weren't detailed enough.:o To match them is one thing, to go beyond them is another thing altogether. Truly, Insane Detail.:cool:

2) You may not match the SSD, because the references just don't show all of the details, but I'd say you've matched the ISD. If not, you've come so close as to make no difference.

Well they weren't shooting extreme close-ups with the fighters, otherwsie I'm sure they'd have detailed it more. And I, being the hobbyist, can spend time and "poly count" (either in real or cgi terms) in a way the deadlined professionals can't :).

Anyways, finished off most of the top detail panel, towards the cockpit. Moving slowly, but moving :)

http://fractalsponge.net/tie/3x.jpg

[Larsen]

Absolutely incrediable:thumb:

[DarkSapiens]

Wow, that models are amazing :eek:

It has been said, but THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IS REALLY, TRULY INSANE!!!! :D

If ILM makes in the future a really high definition version of the Original Trilogy, in 3D or something, they would have to take your renders as reference :lol:

Oh, and I get a 404 error when trying to see your gallery in fractalsponge.net :(

[Samurai]

http://www.fractalsponge.net/gallery/htm <-- Correct Gallery Link. :)

Fractal: luks amazin' m8- will u b releasin it 4 my fanfilm m8?

:shiner:

[DarkSapiens]

Well, I think that the actual link is this (http://www.fractalsponge.net/gallery.htm)

It works.

[fractalsponge]

Bet you can't guess what this goes on:
http://fractalsponge.net/xg1/1.jpg (http://%5Bimg%5Dhttp://fractalsponge.net/xg1/1.jpg%5B/img%5D)
http://fractalsponge.net/xg1/2.jpg (http://%5Bimg%5Dhttp://fractalsponge.net/xg1/2.jpg%5B/img%5D)

[Jedilaw]

I'm thinking it's part of a B-Wing, but I've been wrong before.

How do you do your pipe work? Is it all renderable splines? It looks great, however you do it.

[Pyrocitor]

That doesn't look like any B-wing I've seen, I really don't know what that's off.
But it looks amazing :D
How did you make the grill?

[prfz00m]

The center engine of a Bespin Cloud Car?

[Ozylot]

Whatever it is, It looks amazing!

[Samurai]

Hey Ansel. :)

Hmmm- Imperial Shuttle of some type?

[ChrisGFX]

hmm ... I have no clue. looking at the greebles it is an imerial thingy, right?

Chris :)

[Road Warrior]

^ Hmmmm I have no Idea what the thing above is but I have to say I have always been a big fan of your work. Very inspiring! Cant wait to find out what it is. Thanks for bringing the Imperial fleet to life. I was just wondering..since you have created all these dead on replicas: what new imp craft if any do you have planned for the future? Glad to have you back.

[sorceress21]

The center engine of a Bespin Cloud Car?

That's my guess as well but I'm not certain...

[fractalsponge]

Hey Ansel. :)

Hmmm- Imperial Shuttle of some type?

In a sense ... related manufacturer :)

This one is going to be tough, since no one has has made a high-detail model of this (in 3d or otherwise) - so massive interpretation of ...blank space. horror vacui will get me on this if nothing else. That and I haven't opened max in a long time :P

The pipe work are all renderable splines - easiest way to do them. The trick is to imagine how they can twist through space as effectively as possible - it doesn't take many turns; a few already go a long way to make a piece of greeble look impossibly complex.

[Glazy]

Is it part of Prince Xizor's 'Virago' spaceship from Shadows of the Empire ?

[fractalsponge]

So hard to concentrate on one thing, so I decided to rebuild parts of an old friend:

http://fractalsponge.net/droid/30.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/31.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/32.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/33.jpg

[ChrisGFX]

very clean modeling ... I have no clue who this old friend is ... but looks cool

Chris :)

[Binkerman]

Good to see you back into the fray Ansel, .... Great stuff as usual ...

@ Chris:

Its part of a Droideka, the Rollerball Centry things from the Prequels ....

Jas

[ChrisGFX]

Good to see you back into the fray Ansel, .... Great stuff as usual ...

@ Chris:

Its part of a Droideka, the Rollerball Centry things from the Prequels ....

Jas

thank you :)

Chris :)

[Starship]

Incredible Details !!!!!!!!!!

[fractalsponge]

Actually I did most of it before, but I'm going back and redoing the constituent parts - more detail, cleaner geometry, better bevels etc.

So here's the neck joint:
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/36.jpg


Good to see you back into the fray Ansel, .... Great stuff as usual ...

@ Chris:

Its part of a Droideka, the Rollerball Centry things from the Prequels ....

Jas


How goes it binkerman? Is that beautiful AT-AT of yours done? :P

[Dallidas]

looks like a great start! very clean aswell

[JeffrySG]

Wow! just some beautiful stuff there man!!! Love the renders and all the wires!!! More, more, we want more!!! :D

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[SCIFI 3D zoo]

Been so long I forgot all about your destroyer droid. We were actually working on animating it years ago.

[Ozylot]

Lovin it!

[Dallidas]

you've been eatin to much McDonalds ozy...:lol:


looks like a great start. just to clarify these are the things that roll up and have shields right?

[JeffrySG]

just to clarify these are the things that roll up and have shields right?
^yep

[JeffrySG]

@ fractalsponge: not sure if I ever saw your ISD or your tie fighter before, but I looked at them yesterday on your gallery page.... damm... some incredible models there! amazing work mate!!!

looking forward to more posts! :)

[B.J.]

Hey, I've built one of those before, although in a slightly different medium:
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/general-discussion/23345-star-wars-day-library.html
:D

That thing is a suprisingly complex mechanism, even for Star Wars! Nice work so far.

[Ducimus]

Where do you get the references?

Awesome detail. Loving it.

[fractalsponge]

That cardboard droideka is quite impressive - is that a 3d replica or a 2d picture propped up?


Hey, I've built one of those before, although in a slightly different medium:
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/general-discussion/23345-star-wars-day-library.html
:D

That thing is a suprisingly complex mechanism, even for Star Wars! Nice work so far.

It is quite actually. I think I've figured out how it's supposed to fold. Haven't boned the model yet (since it's not done), so I don't know how well it will work. But I've set aside enough space to allow it fold.

My references are mainly screenshots from ep1 and ep2 (arena fight) and from the Visual Dictionary for Ep1.

Anyways, re-did the head:

http://fractalsponge.net/droid/37.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/38.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/39.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/40.jpg

[B.J.]

That's a lot of faces just for the head!

That cardboard droideka is quite impressive - is that a 3d replica or a 2d picture propped up?

It's 3D alright. Took me about 6 hours to put the whole thing together!

[Jedilaw]

Since you are resurrecting old projects, will we be seeing more work on the Federation Battleship and the Death Star? (Fingers crossed)

[ChrisGFX]

Since you are resurrecting old projects, will we be seeing more work on the Federation Battleship and the Death Star? (Fingers crossed)

yeah ... Death Star ... yeah! :devil:

lol

Chris :)

[Pyrocitor]

Nice work

I always did like the droideka's
They're just cool :)

[TialFiden]

Outstanding work, I wish i could get that level of detail, any advice would be cool.

[traq]

advice: give up anything resembling a life

fractalsponge: incredible as always

[fractalsponge]

leg re-done:

http://fractalsponge.net/droid/41.jpg

[Ozylot]

Dude! :eek!:

I wanna see this all together, stop teasin! :D

[Pyrocitor]

Damn :eek:

Very nice, I think your doing a better job than ILM did ;)

[Jedilaw]

Damn :eek:

Very nice, I think your doing a better job than ILM did ;)

He has a nasty habit of doing that.:D

Just look at his take on Vader's TIE Advanced Prototype.

[fractalsponge]

Dude!

I wanna see this all together, stop teasin!

Good things come to those who wait :)

Besides, my webhost is down right now...

The back end of the droideka didn't need too much work - I'll post an update of that when my website is back up...


Outstanding work, I wish i could get that level of detail, any advice would be cool.

Pick something you really want to do, and start experimenting with how you would make those pieces. Once you get an idea of how to make an effective piece of greeble, it's just application of the same principles really. Just be comfortable with the modeling tools you have.

Painting/texturing/rigging - all of which I suck at - well, there are better people to ask about that here.


Since you are resurrecting old projects, will we be seeing more work on the Federation Battleship and the Death Star? (Fingers crossed)

The fed battleship was IRML's - maybe if we bug him together he'll finish it.

I didn't do anything with the Death Star, what are you talking about? (I'm sticking by that, dangit :P).

[Northern_Mind]

ey fractalsponge ,great work on everything here in the thread. "not" that i need it but any chance you'd be interesting in making a tutorial :D

[Binkerman]

How goes it binkerman? Is that beautiful AT-AT of yours done? :P

Good thanks mate, ... The AT-AT is just on hold atm ... doing some non-SW Characters atm which is a nice change in prep for when it comes to Veers & Snowtroopers, ... Though the problem with leaving a model for too long is you end up re-doing stuff because you've improved ... there's a couple of things I need to do with the head before I can do the cockpit, ... though Ive already got that roughed out, ....

Jas

[fractalsponge]

^:doh:

Anyways, my site is back up:

I re-did the lower part of the leg. And the spine of the droid (not much to do there except bevel a few things and clean up).

http://fractalsponge.net/droid/42.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/42w.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/43.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/44.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/45.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/46.jpg

[ChrisGFX]

very cool!

Chris :)

[Jedilaw]

Very clean, elegant modeling work, Ansel. Quite lovely.

[stonky]

Agreed, great work.

[Pyrocitor]

Beautiful detail man :thumb:

I love those wireframes too

[fractalsponge]

arm:
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/47.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/droid/48.jpg

[Talos]

Very nice and smooth detail, keep up the good work. :thumb:

[Samurai]

Cool stuff Ansel.

Whatever happened to that "hybrid" ship you were working on?

[Dr. Jones]

It looks good, don't get me wrong, but it seems to me that the polygon density is not even. Some parts have way more divisions than needed, while some others could use more.

Edit: in fact, no, there is no under-divided part, but some are really waaaay too divided

[DarthMaya]

We REALLY need a video tutorial fractal! :D

[fractalsponge]

Panel test: 5min of modelling. It's all geometry; guess how?

http://fractalsponge.net/images/panel.jpg

[stonky]

Computers?

[Jedilaw]

Panel test: 5min of modelling. It's all geometry; guess how?

Hmmm, this is a tough one...:p I'm gonna guess...splines?

Looking at that panel, one can't help but think it might come in handy for, say, a Super Star Destroyer. :D

[JeffrySG]

Computers?

:lol::lol:

[JeffrySG]

Panel test: 5min of modelling. It's all geometry; guess how?

stencil the rectangles all over the main poly and then bevel them and then extrude them down a bit? bridge a few of them together to get the opening???
just a guess??


ps. forgot to add that those last updates of the droids legs look amazing! and thanks for posting the wires as well!!! love seeing them too!!! :D

[Ozylot]

Simply amazing!

[fractalsponge]

A little something I'm starting to work on part-time. Expect very slow updates, but I've always wanted to do something like this:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/3.jpg

[Samurai]

Mwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha- it liiiiiives! :D

[Ozylot]

A little something I'm starting to work on part-time. Expect very slow updates, but I've always wanted to do something like this:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/3.jpg

Oh, so that should be a fairly simple project then...:shiner:

[Northern_Mind]

Just a couple of hours by my reckoning :thumb:

[stonky]

Looking forward to it!

[Road Warrior]

Excellent! What is she though- carrier or battleship? Looking foward to this Fractalsponge.

[ChrisGFX]

cool concept ... can't wait to see more

Chris :)

[Wiz]

Ouchi-wowa...

<Drools at the thought of it :)>

[Starship]

Panel test: 5min of modelling. It's all geometry; guess how?

http://fractalsponge.net/images/panel.jpg

Welcome back!
Hey, you don´t answered how yet... :D

[chrono]

You can do that in under 30 seconds on any sculpting package. :eyerolls:

But since it's a professional package it should be able to work miracles anyways!

[Jedilaw]

Heh, I know the answer!

Then again, as I recall, I'm the one who sent you the link for the plugin...

[Jedilaw]

A little something I'm starting to work on part-time. Expect very slow updates, but I've always wanted to do something like this:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/3.jpg

Damn, Ansel, you had to come roaring back into the cap-ship modeling arena. :flippy: My hour of pwnage has surely arrived.

But, wait...don't you have some thesis or something to finish writing?:devil:

[fractalsponge]

^hey, wait, weren't you doing a cap-ship too? oh, must not be, haven't seen an update in weeks :devil:

Anyways, today's work:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/4.jpg

[Road Warrior]

..............I dont know how you do it but you do it so well.....Every time you model something from your head Ansel it fits in with StarWars stuff perfectly. Agian- you must be a robot.:p:thumb:

[TheGreatRaja]

Which one is the USB port?

[Samurai]

"Intel Inside" :p

[fractalsponge]

And, some more quickie stuff:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/5.jpg

[Starship]

Impressive!

[docprice]

I have yet to see a good render of the Eclipes Super Star Destroyer, Have you ever thought about doing that beast?

[fractalsponge]

^I believe there's a rather good one for the Threads of Destiny fanfilm.

That ship (not the mesh, but the design itself) is rather boring though, imho; no real sense of complexity in comparison to the Executor or ISD.

[Jedilaw]

Hey, where did you download those greebles?:devil: They look pretty cool, man.

As for my cap ship...I'm working on it. The pace will probably accelerate now that you've jumped back into the middle of things. Can't have you do two whole ISDs before I even finish one, now can I?

[fractalsponge]

This is moving along at a good clip. Brought a few mroe terrace rows up today. Also made a turret, which I'll show off more later.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/6.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/7.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/8.jpg

[Wiz]

Coming along very nicely!

@Jedilaw: Come on mate pick up the pace ;)

[Road Warrior]

Fractal- man youre flyin' !

[fractalsponge]

This is now...bout 2 and a half days of work:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/9.jpg

[Lee80]

Some nice greebelage there...

[Lt. Cannonfodder]

Oh boy... here we go again. Looking forward for more.

[Tovette]

mmm details.... :D

[fractalsponge]

Panels...are...boring...work...

http://fractalsponge.net/big/10.jpg

[Jedilaw]

Showin' off again, I see...

Love the greeble work, but IMHO the panels may be too widely spaced for that size of ship. The panel lines on the ILM models are pretty dense.

[fractalsponge]

OK, so here's my feeling on panel lines here. These lines are about the same relative size as the panels I used on my ISD. The lines in the studio models are finer (at least for Avenger and Executor, Devastator is about the same).

Two points I have to make about this:
1) Equivalents of the really fine exacto-scored lines on the studio models should at this 3d resolution are appropriately handled in texture, if indeed one imagines they are necessary. Again, this is close to the Devastator studio model resolution anyway.

2) Diminishing returns come into play. These lines are nearing the point at which they would be invisible in a full-ship shot, and would be impossible to handle (at least for my machine) if they are all modeled in the close up shots for a 7.1km ship at studio-model resolution. You sacrifice too many polys, time, and effort, on modeling things that would be obscured in 99% of the distances and angles by dirtmap or motion blur... I don't feel any...richness...of detail is unduly sacrificed here.

Bottom line is probably that the level used here, or at in a denser pattern for a smaller ship the grids used for your ISD, are probably as reasonably close to studio model lines as one can, or should get in geometry. No one will replicate the studio grid pattern exactly. No one. Not if they actually want to have time for a life, or to finish the rest of the ship :).
...
Actually that's not the bottom line. The bottom line is that the detailing and configuration for this ship is my own design, and I am not going for the exact replication of any studio pattern. Any more panel line detail is, imho, a waste of time and poly budget that can be spent on much more interesting detailing.

[Jedilaw]

Wow, kinda touched a nerve, eh? Don't get me wrong, I totally dig the pattern, and you're right it's about equivalent to Devastator. I was actually thinking that using a second set of detail plates for close shots would be the way to go.

That or a pencil (which is what ILM was using for the really fine lines, when you look at the Avenger in hi res).

And this "finish" thing you refer to, I'm...drawing a blank.

Finish...

Finish you say? I'll have to go ask Tobian what you mean.

Ok, not Tobian...

lol

[fractalsponge]

Tobian is indeed a master of "finishing." Many have aspired to surpass him, but can't be bothered to get there. Paul, for example. :devil:

And actually not a nerve. I've been giving this panel thing some thought for big ships, especially since I've been turning this thing over in my head. For a proper, beveled-edge pattern, I simply don't see a way to make the massively fine and complicated (and nearly invisible) pattern on the later SW studio models that would be worth the effort and computing power.

[Jedilaw]

Tobian is indeed a master of "finishing." Many have aspired to surpass him, but can't be bothered to get there. Paul, for example. :devil:


Paul, Hell, Greg has some kind of record for non-finished WIPs, doesn't he? I at least have one complete project to my name (the APU, for those of you watching at home).:D:cool:

[fractalsponge]

^True, actually. But Paul is still pretty bad.

Filling in some gaps, more plating.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/11.jpg

[Samurai]

Paul, Hell, Greg has some kind of record for non-finished WIPs, doesn't he? I at least have one complete project to my name (the APU, for those of you watching at home).

Hey! I finished... um... I finished the conversion of your ISD for Matt and Paul to play with... My excuse is that my computer never recovered from MAX's export mesh... :p

But yes, it's true- though the Venator will be completed one day... :)

[Lee80]

Sure it will Greg... Never a better time then the present ;)

Sweet looking work there fractalsponge.

[Jedilaw]

Hey! I finished... um... I finished the conversion of your ISD for Matt and Paul to play with... My excuse is that my computer never recovered from MAX's export mesh... :p

But yes, it's true- though the Venator will be completed one day... :)

The mesh will come out, tomorrow,bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, Greg'll be done...

[Samurai]

Yes, tomorrow- bet everything on it. I'll let you all know the PayPal ID for the holding account.... :shiner:

[fractalsponge]

^ I bet a billion zimbabwe dollars!

http://fractalsponge.net/big/12.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/13.jpg

The armament starts to appear. The quad turret mounts the same big guns as an ISDI. The octuple mounts are for guns similar to an ISDII. These are not by any means going to be all the guns on this beast, I assure you :)

[aylaa12]

great work and the details are perfect the weapons look excelent as well hope to see more of this beastie soon

[Jedilaw]

For your viewing enjoyment (and reference):

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/jedilaw/devastatorterracesleftcompress.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/jedilaw/devastatorterracesleft4compress.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/jedilaw/devastatorterracesleft2compress.jpg

[Lizzy777]

How to greeble models:

Step 1. Buy a bunch of different model kits.
Step 2. Step on all of the parts.
Step 3. Glue them together in new and interesting ways.
Step 4. Glue the "greebles" to your base model.

[backstept]

Step 2. Step on all of the parts.
OUCH!

with shoes on I hope! :shiner:

[fractalsponge]

That top photo was my reference - note the similarities to my turret :)

[Road Warrior]

sweet! dont forget a few of those trench mounted heavy quad lasers:D.

Excellent man.

[Jedilaw]

That top photo was my reference - note the similarities to my turret :)

I thought I had sent you all of those, but I figured it never hurts to be sure.

[fractalsponge]

http://fractalsponge.net/big/14.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/15.jpg

[Severus]

Great merciful bloodstained gods man... It looks so angry, I love it...

[Road Warrior]

Now thats what Im talking about!

[fractalsponge]

The greeble is expanding. Did some editing of the twin turrets for the really heavy guns, will do a comparison close-up later between the different mountings.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/16_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/16.jpg)

[biotech]

A great many Tamia battleships died to bring us this information.

Nice work!

[docprice]

oooooooooo

aaahhhhhhhhh

Im awestruck!

[Tovette]

crap, you model fast. You sell your soul or something? :p
Is that a canon ISD or one of your own creation?

[fractalsponge]

A great many Tamia battleships died to bring us this information.

Nice work!

LOL!

@Tovette: this is my own interpretation of precisely 1 reference:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/comics/de/cruiser5.jpg

With many modifications, so that won't be quite exactly how it will turn out.

As for modeling, I've been streamlining my greebling for a long time now, and plus, when the inspiration hits, it burns :)

[Jedilaw]

You are officially making me look bad, Mr. "I can finish a PhD and speed-model an entire capital ship at the same time!"

Don't you have some germs that require your attention?

[Severus]

You are officially making me look bad, Mr. "I can finish a PhD and speed-model an entire capital ship at the same time!"

Don't you have some germs that require your attention?

Making you look bad? He's making some of us want to just curl up and die...

[ChrisGFX]

You are officially making me look bad, Mr. "I can finish a PhD and speed-model an entire capital ship at the same time!"

Don't you have some germs that require your attention?

making you look bad ? thats impossible! :) Your the Master Of Greebles!

anyway ... this new ship is rockin' ! :thumb:

Greets

Chris :)

[Bolshybeef]

Fantastic work! :) already looking ten times as mean as an ISD, I'm sure it'll be phenomenal when it's done

[Lee80]

Freaking fantastic, and fast as well. WOW. yeah, thats all I got..

[fractalsponge]

So I decided last night to make a tower from scratch. Blend of devastator/avenger styles. Think it turned out well, and faster than I thought. Not quite as much nurnie as my ISDv2 but better integrated into this style now, and all the edges are rounded at least :).

http://fractalsponge.net/big/17.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/18_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/18.jpg)

[Jedilaw]

making you look bad ? thats impossible! :) Your the Master Of Greebles!


Nah, I can't claim that title with some of the cats we have around here. At most, I am one among many who have an eye for mechanical detail. And whatever degree of skill I have with greebles was largely learned by taking Ansel's ISD v1 apart piece-by-piece and stealing ideas from him whole-cloth. That, and looking at tons of model-kit scans and pictures of real-life machinery.

@Fractalsponge: given the size of your ship, you might want to incorporate some of the details from the Executor bridge model. Granted, I know you aren't 100% in love with that model, but there are a lot of interesting pieces you can copy from it.

Incidentally, given the scale and poly-count on some of these greebles, am I correct in assuming that you aren't intending this model for usage in close-up shots?

[fractalsponge]

^Indeed. The top shot is as close as I would expect to ever have to get. Much past that distance and a higher resolution detail model will probably be necessary, though I am always surprised by how well things can scale in a still image or animation.

[JeffrySG]

Ok, I've been busy the past few weeks so I didn't see any of this thread so let me say....

ohhhhhh....... wwwwwoooooooooowwwwww.......

:thumb::thumb::thumb::o:o:o:thumb::thumb::thumb:

[fractalsponge]

More filling in with panels, more turrets, more details for the bridge.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/19.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/20.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/21_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/21.jpg)
http://fractalsponge.net/big/22.jpg

[Road Warrior]

Sweet! Ansel the new command tower realy sets it off. Nicely done.

[guddi]

wow... nice work!! I really like the terraces beneath the tower! :thumb:

[ChrisGFX]

I love it! :)

[Jedilaw]

Hey, I love the design of the details, but the more I look at these shots I just can't help thinking that those bevels are so thick they're throwing off the sense of scale. If you look at the HI-DEF version of ROTJ you can actually see a similar problem with the Executor tower: in the close-up shots during Tyderium's fly-by, the rounded edges on the greebles make it apparent that this is a plastic model.

How much hassle would it be to try smaller bevels on these greebs?

[fractalsponge]

Well, not impossible, but just not happening; too many to drill into the modifier stacks for. I tend to make them a little bigger to catch the light better at distance. I find if you do really sharp rounding it's like you might as well have never bothered...

[Melak]

^Encountered that oo often already...all those wasted bevels

[fractalsponge]

Filling out some gaps, more guns:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/23.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/24_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/24.jpg)

[Road Warrior]

Hey didnt expect that...............is the front of the surounding (wall) going to be paneled up- for some reason it appears too thick- but then again youre not done so I will have to wait to see.

[ChrisGFX]

thats just copy'n paste .. thats why he is that fast, huh? :D

:thumb:

Great stuff for sure!

Greets

Chris :)

[Starship]

Totally incredible!!!!

[fractalsponge]

More stuff:

http://fractalsponge.net/big/25_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/25.jpg)

[Road Warrior]

Sweet. Have you given any thought to a possible hanger layout?

[aylaa12]

impresive I'm speechless

[fractalsponge]

Thinking about hangars, may show some ideas later. Right now, filling in the top. Probably moving to the trench next.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/26_small (http://fractalsponge.net/big/26.jpg)http://fractalsponge.net/big/26_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/26.jpg)
http://fractalsponge.net/big/26_small (http://fractalsponge.net/big/26.jpg)

[guddi]

great work!! nice idea with the two extra domes on the top

hell lot of turrets :)

[Crix Dorius]

A broadside must be like apocalypse... :devil:

[Mach Crit]

Yeah, but all the corridors go dim, then the toilets back up...

[guddi]

hey fractal,
beside a name...already some ideas what you plan with it?

[Dr. Jones]

Once again you're doing a terrific job, but I think the number of guns is just ridiculous, looks like it caught the mine-is-bigger-than-yours syndrome and it kind ruins all the hard work your putting into it to make it believable. I understand it's a different class from the victory that could be heavier armed, but still, all those turrets at the back is overkill

[fractalsponge]

I have some back-of-envelope style calculations for the turret issue. See if it makes sense. It's not so much a "mine is bigger" thing; it's a square-cube law problem. A ship twice as large as another in linear dimensions will proportionally have 8 times the power to put to weapons.

I'm going by scaling based on power generation, which should be based on the size of the reactor available. Based on this, I'm thinking 30x ISD equivalents, due to the following:

This ship is ~20x ISD volume based on a naive proportional scale-up. There's going to be less relative space dedicated to hangars compared to the ISD, which leaves greater proportional space for power generation for a large gun battery. I plan on putting a very large reactor bulb to drive home the point on the ventral side. That said, going for 25-30x ISD power for weapons does not seem unreasonable to me.

Assume the 12 heavy turbolasers on the ISDI are equivalent to the 64 smaller heavies on the ISDII. Based on an ISDI armament, this ship, by power-generation, should have...between 300 and 360 of the same sized guns. In twin turrets, well, you start seeing the problem; no space for anything else. So I concentrate them into quads, and double the turret size accordingly. That, and I've introduced an even larger caliber, bit over twice the size again as the gun on an ISDI, about double them up to a turret. Won't bore anyone with all the numbers, but based on all that, I'm currently plotting out a fit of the following for this ship (subject to some changes):

22 superheavies in 11 twins (=~4 ISDs)
192 ISDI-class heavies in 48 quad mounts (=~16 ISDs)
384 ISDII-class heavies in 48 octuples (=~6 ISDs)

+sundries like ion cannon etc.

So, realism clashes a bit with following the "canon" 4 turrets to a side of the ISD. How you decide to spread the power estimate given by the size scaling between guns depends on how arbitrarily large you want to scale the weapons. I can have 8 octuples like the ISDII in this ship, but each gun would be 20-30x the power, and likely, close to that again in size. I think we can agree that would look pretty silly too.

[docprice]

Givent he ships size and projected power output I dont see a problem with the number of energy based weapons you have instore.

My only crit, and its some what meaningless, Based on that size of your ship and some of the varieing degrees of angles from hull surfaces... and given the amount of batteries emplacements for equal coverage in a near 360 degree omni directional. your effective overlapping fields of fire based on your turret types dont seem optimal. But as with most capital ships are ment for ship to ship battles and less on point deffence.

this is based on your 22 super heavys(tier 1) being center line for 180 degrees coverage from port to starboard. that way you can effectivly engauge target forward or from either side at 45 degree angles to bring the most guns to bare on a single target.
I then placed your 192 Quad mounts(tier 2) on sections below the super heavys in a modifed honycomb pattern. with primary focus on port and starbard fields of fire with secondary coverage farward for additional fire support.
Then your 384 (tier 3) interlaced with the other batteries for additoinal fire support and small point deffense.

[guddi]

like to see the results on that ship. actually these numbers matchs with the size of the ship if you take the armarment of the executor as comparison. how big will this ship be?

[Road Warrior]

I never will understand why people do not understand that a larger ship has to have a larger power plant that by defintion can power more turrets/systems.

[docprice]

I never will understand why people do not understand that a larger ship has to have a larger power plant that by defintion can power more turrets/systems.

I wasnt saying he had too much, i was thinken and trying to work out that he had not enough.

[fractalsponge]

Ship is ~ 7.1km

I re-built the large-caliber twin turret setup, and scaled the turret to fit. All the large turrets are 75% their original size, which might help with anyone who had issues with the scale or emphasis on the armament before. Also did a quad-heavy ion cannon in a ball socket mount.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/27.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/28.jpg

[guddi]

matchs much better! Did you tried 80%?
love that quad turrets and the new ioan canons

[Road Warrior]

I wasnt saying he had too much, i was thinken and trying to work out that he had not enough.

Oh thats cool. I stand corrected.

[docprice]

lol so whats the power plant going to look like, a small Star. the way your headed that the power output it looks like your going to need.

Spider man 2 anyone.. except on a bigger scale. Can you imagen the peak power output of that ship when makeing a jump into hyper space. E= 1 Chuck Norris Round House kick,squared .

Awsome ship, can i be captain.

[Mach Crit]

I know the Executor is larger, but that shot down the side (from the ballmount-quad cannon) looks so freakin huge! Imagine this ship being used in the opening scene (right after the scrolling vertical text) as in the first 3 (in years released chronological order): The nose comes into view when the vertical scroll stops and the engines come into view as the ending credits roll...

I am fully amazed by the details here....

[fractalsponge]

Update:

Did a large portion of the trench and the trench brim yesterday, and did the hull panels for the dorsal hull. Going to finish the brim and the trench next, and do the detail pass on the hull panels.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/29.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/30_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/30.jpg%5Bimg)

[guddi]

nice view! are there turbolaser in the trench as well?

[Crix Dorius]

nice view! are there turbolaser in the trench as well?

Wasn`t that ions ?

[guddi]

yes, but want to know if there are turbolasers too

[Dr. Jones]

Be careful, don't make it look too good or some lucas' lawyer is going to ask you to take it down, like they did with Howard if I remember correctly. (then you could reply they used your mesh in a trailer)

[guddi]

as I remember correctly they used howards mesh within a poster without asking and crediting him. Like they used ansels SD in a Trailer.

Maybe we'll see that ship in the upcoming series :)

[fractalsponge]

^Yes, but that depends on this being released. Which it won't be. Not widely.

Pretty much finished the trench now. Added some Venator/Acclamator-style torpedo tubes.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/31.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/32.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/33.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/34.jpg
http://fractalsponge.net/big/35_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/35.jpg)

[ChrisGFX]

:eek!:

[Wiz]

Holy Crap!!!

[guddi]

astonishing!!! really love that terraces! :o

[biotech]

Nice.

[Ozylot]

That is a disgusting amount of detail...it's too bad that that big render can't quite hold it all. Lol

Looks great!

[SGA_Maddin]

Great work! amazing details!

[YIIMM]

That's phenomenal. To create something like that based on the most unhelpful of sources requires imagination as much as it does modelling skill, and I'm envious of both. :)

[docprice]

Oh baby jesus, i tink my vid card just fried.

[Jedilaw]

I see you found that box of greebles in your closet...

[Wiz]

<rushes off to check closet>

[Wiz]

Nuts... nowt there... <oooh rushes to the back of the couch>

[Dr. Jones]

damn you're fast!

I would have seen a smaller hangar bay on this big wall http://fractalsponge.net/big/23.jpg , like for a shuttle or something. It would look great, but probably too exposed

[MajorPayne]

As usual a highly impressive modelling project. Was going to give this the low poly treatment when I seen the original comic image but didnt know where to start. Interesting to see your usual "touches" to make it unique as well. Can't wait to see more.

[Jedilaw]

damn you're fast!

I would have seen a smaller hangar bay on this big wall http://fractalsponge.net/big/23.jpg , like for a shuttle or something. It would look great, but probably too exposed

ISDs have never been shown with lateral hangar bays, only ventral bays. It's not a Mon Cal cruiser, after all.:devil::D

[Severus]

ISDs have never been shown with lateral hangar bays, only ventral bays. It's not a Mon Cal cruiser, after all.

Ah... but take back one kadam to honor the Mon Cal god whose ship this is... this isn't an ISD either... ignore me I'm just trying to cause trouble... :lol:

[markmassey]

I'd love to know how long these images are taking to render??

[Jedilaw]

Ah... but take back one kadam to honor the Mon Cal god whose ship this is... this isn't an ISD either... ignore me I'm just trying to cause trouble... :lol:

Multiple classes of ISD there are. An ISD the Executor is...

[guddi]

Too much with Yoda you spoke!!! :D

[docprice]

The Venators did have lateral bays, it could be a Saucy sexy come back.

Peak Technology with a hint of retro thrown in. I know Palpatine likes to throw it back old school.

[Severus]

The Venators did have lateral bays, it could be a Saucy sexy come back.

Peak Technology with a hint of retro thrown in. I know Palpatine likes to throw it back old school.

Yeah... so take that...
And you're right Doc, the lateral bays were very, very HOT...

[Dr. Jones]

the lateral bays were very, very HOT...
:D Yeah sometimes I touch myself thinking about fighters landing in lateral bays. Doing it from the sides. HOT

[fractalsponge]

Was out of town this weekend, but did manage to block out the engines, reactor bulb, and provisional hangar arrangement. The hangars will be death star-style lateral hangars in the inset bays shown below - less vulnerable.

Working on the windows now. Added about a thousand to the terrace, checking the effect, and if it works will extend them through the rest of the detailed areas.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/36_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/36.jpg)

http://fractalsponge.net/big/37_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/37.jpg)

http://fractalsponge.net/big/38_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/38.jpg)

[guddi]

looks like it gets a primary reactor and one secondary. like the arrangement of the engines.

but I couldnt figure out where the hangars are supposed to be?

[Mach Crit]

Very nice details. They'll have to add a few more trombones and tubas to the orchestra when that thing goes across the screen.

[Severus]

You know, I like everything you've done with this ship with the one glaring exception of the that second larger reactor dome on the underside. This is just my opinion of course and feel free to dismiss it, but that second larger dome really screws up the scale of the ship for me. I know its supposed to be a large ship but when I see that, I can't help but compare it to an Imperator and think of it as smaller. I realize the original drawing was done that way too, but this seems like the perfect time to take some artistic license with that particular aspect. That being said, I like the arrangement of the engines and how you've incorporated the curves in the back of the ship.

[Mach Crit]

@Severus - I am tempted to agree, but then the size of the ship dictates a much larger reactor. The ship by itself will have other things on it (like tiny windows and tiny turrets) to indicate scale, but I imagine the real effect of size would be when the ship comes alongside a standard ISD, and then the tremendous size becomes more obvious.

I guess from a design standpoint, having 2 or 3 smaller reactors would provide some redundant safety features as well as having a bank of engines being fed by one of several reactors.

[fractalsponge]

I appreciate your point severus, but it's not an interdictor - won't have

The real point of scale is the bridge tower - it's the ISD module, and even bigger. That's always been the primary visual cue for scaling for me when it comes to SW capital ships. Of course, there are going to be windows, as Mach Crit said.

So, some windows:

The second shot should have been so that the windows were on the shaded side, but forgot. Not like they would show up on the side with the key-light anyway, not at this range.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/39_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/39.jpg)

http://fractalsponge.net/big/40_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/40.jpg)

[Lord Erisu]

Dear god, thats Insane. Beautiful too. I need to find a bucket to drool into...

[Nutsy]

I demand you stop trying to pass off photos as cg renders ;P



Serioulsy great detail there.

[docprice]

Again, I demand that I and Names Captain of this myjestic beast and dispense Galatic Justice in the Emporers Name. :devil:
hehe

[Wiz]

This is nothing, a single X-Wing could well destroy it... pfft...

;)

[guddi]

This is nothing, a single X-Wing could well destroy it... pfft...

;)

If there's a small exhaust port :D

Nevertheless, great work!!

[docprice]

Ill be sure to station extra guards next to that exahust port and post more security outside the bridge and Domes on top of the bridge. Problem solved.

[Lord Erisu]

And what, pray tell, are extra guards gonna do?? Ya need extra AA emplacements. And a field of fire so think that one can only get in when all the turrets have run out of ammo. :P

[Steve O B Have]

epic work - Love it!

[docprice]

no you misunderstand, When the energy shield fails that what the extraaaa guards are for, more like a bioshield. lol.....

@ Fract...

Great work, I really am enjoying the feel of this ship. I like it more than the Executor, next on the list. A mod for Star Wars " Empire at War" lets see this baby in action.

Darth Vader "Dont Fail me again Commander" /Force choke

[fractalsponge]

In honor of my recent upgrade from a dual core2 6600 to a quad core 6600, I am rendering out large shots of everything to date. Here you go. Windows in the trench, and all of the terraces now. Next up, probably hangars.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/41_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/41.jpg)

http://fractalsponge.net/big/44_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/44.jpg)

[Wiz]

Makes me wish i had a massive monitor to display these as full size desktops :)

[docprice]

wow she is Beautifull, The quite before the Storm. ooooo has a nice ring to it.

[guddi]

Wow... Just great!! Even with a 22" monitor you dont get it completly :D

[Crix Dorius]

Wow... incredible... :eek:

For my taste the windowlights are a little to yellow I think.

And is that a sec. bridge by the forwarded globes ? :o

[B.J.]

Wowsers! It won't even fit stretched across two monitors!

Nice work!

[Juanski]

If your taking requests.... I'd love to see a render from the bridge point of view looking forward. Just to get a perspective of how immense it is.

[gthompsn]

Wow! This has got to be one of the most menacing warship designs I've seen...

[fractalsponge]

@Juanski, I'll see about doing a bridge forward shot later on - probably need to get a little more work done first.

So, in between olympics on tv, some work on the hangars. This is one of the tie fighter-launching hangars. There's going to be a longer one for dropships and such, and some smaller ones for shuttles and the like. They will all be in this style though. 2x3m thick external blast doors on this. The others will also be close-able.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/46_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/46.jpg)

[Nayslayer]

Damn!

[guddi]

****ing great details... think you can even make closeup scenes with every part of the ship.

nice double armoured doors!

[Crepstier]

Wow! That's realy awsome o.O

I just checked the hole thread and all youre meshes are great. I hope you'll complete the DD soon but if u want to do your SD first: Good luck^^

[fractalsponge]

Playing with the dirtshader, trying a blue-white window color, and moving on to the main hangar. Also a shot with the bays for one side of the ship together. Visible rack space for 126 heavy fighters the size of a tie bomber of tie defender; would be more for regular sized fighters. Also the rack system will extend into the ship, hence the big access doors behind the visible rack slots. Upgrading fighter complement to 6 wings, given the amount of space actually available.

http://fractalsponge.net/big/48_small.jpg (http://fractalsponge.net/big/48.jpg)

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[docprice]

lol..


"Hi my name is Fractalsponge and I PWNT your renders!!!11"

If only the Star Wars Galaxy was real. oh well i guess thats why we have people like you Sponge.

[SGA_Maddin]

Just great man! very very mutch details! Lucas Arts would be happy about sutch a great modell^^

[docprice]

lol, Geroge Lucas will probaly put a hit out on Fractalsponge. Cant have anyone around this good, its his way of keeping the iron grip on the franchise.