Original series BSG Viper

[biotech]

Last night I started work on my viper again, I dont have the new renders here to show the work on the fuselage, but since the server ate my last thread, heres a few pics to remind you of what I have so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/wip38.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/wip40.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/wip43.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/wip49.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/wip66.jpg

Some of these links are window stretching so I have left them as is for easier reading.

[Freak]

Mate that is some nice work you have done there. I love the old BSG vipers. the only other fighter that cames this close cool are the ones form Space Above and Beyond!

[Darth Malice]

Good to see your back on it, nice stuff...:thumb: Love the composite too BTW.:flippy: Did you ever get round to finishing the Raider?..

[biotech]

The radier is still on my to finish list, along with just about everything else I have ever started and still have on my hard drive.

[biotech]

Anyway, now I am home, a few quick renders of the fuselage, nothing too fancy, I had to split this section off to its own file to be able to work with it, the other file is so slow now, even with the windows turned to bounding boxes and most bits hidden.

[Darth Malice]

Looks good. Are the panels 100% textured?..

Be cool if you could get back to the raider some time too...:flippy:

[Freak]

man see is looking sweet! what the ploy count on this now?

[biotech]

No the panels are all modelled, I'll have to get back to you on the polycount

[biotech]

458,000!

And she still needs a cockpit interior and pilot.

[biotech]

Merged the textured fuselage back in with the rest of the ship for a couple of renders, the dark side one doesnt show much, but I thought I would include it anyway, as it looks cool!

[Darth Malice]

Damn 450k polys. Can see why you need to use bounding boxes. Looks real sweet with the back end included now...:thumb:

[biotech]

Thanks, and although it took about 7 minutes to render, this next image might show where some of those polys have gone, the very observant of you might notice the cockpit rivits.

[Darth Malice]

****... Are there rivets all over, or just the cockpit?.. I`m guessing there`s quite a few polys used on those beautiful engines too.

[biotech]

Just the cockpit, yeah the engines have a lot of polys, each surface is chamfered.

[biotech]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/wip14.jpg

[Darth Malice]

Cool, how many polys per rivet?..

[biotech]

I'm not that sure to be honest, been a while since I made them.

[Darth Malice]

Hehe, I usually just use a 5 sided polygon with a top. The top being tapered. Seems to do the job fine without using to many polys.

[Gothic_Goatboy]

This is exquisite modeling! But why does everyone who does an old school viper add such heavy dirt :devil: looks great none the less

[Larsen]

WOW... very nice mate:thumb:... I hate the fact that max gets so damn slow when hitting the 400-500k polycount:(... lightwavers don't seem to have that problem:eek:

[JeffrySG]

Great job! The model came out really amazing, and the textures look really slick. I really like the specular map you have on the front section and in my mind it has just the right amount of dirt on the ship...

[biotech]

Thanks for the comments guys.

Probably wont get to work on this again tonight, maybe at the weekend.

[Freak]

she is looking dam fine mate!

[biotech]

Thanks, I am kicking myself for not finishing it earlier.

I have a good feeling that this is the one to get to 100% finished status.

[D.M.J.]

Steady improvement, good sir.

[Darth Malice]

I have a good feeling that this is the one to get to 100% finished status. Haha, you sound like me. I`m still waiting for the "one". I`ve come close a few times, just haven`t managed to seal the deal.:flippy:

[biotech]

Found the pilot from my previous version, needs a lot of work, but at least I know you can see through that front window, just!

[Basajaun]

The Viper from the original BSG series isn't one of my favourite designs, but you've done a fantastic modeling/texturing work. I might even start liking the TOS-Viper :p

[biotech]

Thanks, and congrats on your recent win.

[Darth Malice]

The Viper from the original BSG series isn't one of my favourite designsYou must be crazy...:lol: j/k. I`ll admit the design is dated compared to todays standards. But I loved this ship as a kid and still do. It always reminded me of a single seat race car, built for speed and ohhhh so sexy.:flippy:

[Larsen]

Found the pilot from my previous version, needs a lot of work, but at least I know you can see through that front window, just!

Hmmmm:D... and here I thought I was the only one having that problem:D


Sweet work mate... You've done the design credit:thumb:

[biotech]

Thanks guys.

[biotech]

This is exquisite modeling! But why does everyone who does an old school viper add such heavy dirt :devil:

BTW, heres a screencap from the DVD.

The full scale mock ups were never that dirty, but the filming models, grunge city.

[Freak]

Looking great mate. But that pilot just looks a little cartoony. I know you said that he needs a bit more work. I finally got my hand on a copy of the new BSG, I have only watched the first 20 mins. But not to bad so far.

[SmokinMonkey]

:onice work bio!

Looks much better than the original:thumb:

[biotech]

Thanks guys!

[vissroid]

yarg man. the detail is awsome!
love the last pic. the planet reminds me of dreamscape(I did a image close to that myself) :D keep it up

[biotech]

Thanks, that planet is actually a picture my wife took as we jetted home from ibiza in may!

[vissroid]

Thanks, that planet is actually a picture my wife took as we jetted home from ibiza in may!

whoah. that caught me off guard. well then great pic your wife caught too. lol

[biotech]

I tell a lie, I was thinking of the picture in the 3D gallery, the one in this thread was googled with a search on "above clouds".

You dont get many ice packs between ibiza and the uk.

[biotech]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/biotech/viper/viperssky.jpg

This is the one I was thinking of.

[Clay]

Man ya gotta love the goofey pharoh helmets :D Mesh is looking good.... Sorry I havent been around much, been on vacation the last coule of weeks...

[rtrowbridge]

Incredible work. I was 13 when the original series aired, so I'm still hooked on the thing. I think the lighting in your helmet is a little off, though. I remember it giving the pilot's face a blue tint.

[biotech]

Theres a blue tint in the new show, but I am reasonably sure the rope lights glued into the old helmets where either white or yellow.

The pilot is only temporary for now anyway.

[Cinnamon]

Now that is just too beautiful for words... The classic Viper and the Mark II *are* both in my all time favourite top ten list for SF fightercraft. The detailing on this model is just awe inspiring. I can't wait to see it finished!

banzai!

I think you're right about the lights in the old school helmets - I remember them being white myself.

-jaime

[biotech]

Thanks, and the DVDs agree with you about the colour!

[SGA-3D]

Why do I see the sphynx every time I see those old helmets?

Regardless, it's stunning work! Well done.

[biotech]

Thanks, you made any more pics with the old one yet?

[SGA-3D]

Well, atm I'm redoing the Progeny image, which takes a while to render. Once it's done, I'll make a couple of images. There would have been one the other day, but I was a bit busy unfortunately.

[biotech]

Well I finally have something new to add to this thread.

I have been working on the landing gear, which isnt easy considering the lack of references for these parts online.

If anyone knows the title of an episode where you get a good look at them, let me know, as I do have the DVDs, but I cant go through the entire series to see which ones have good references.

I was also tempted to by a starbuck action figure today to help me with the pilot and helmet.

10 quids a lot of money though.

[Cinnamon]

Woo hoo! An update!

for not having much reference, you really did a great job on the shape of the landing skid - I think there was a site posted recently that had some pretty decent detail photos of the skids on the full scale mock up... gimme a sec to dig up the link... Ah yes... here they are.

Viper Mock-up in Storage (http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Viper/ViperMockupStorage.htm)

Galactica 1980 Viper Mock-up (http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Viper/ViperMockup1980.htm)

The entire site isa fabulous resource. I hope it helps!

-jaime
<who wants to see more!>

[Darth Malice]

Looks good to me. Nice work...:thumb:

[Freak]

the skid look great! nice job on them.

[biotech]

Woo hoo! An update!

for not having much reference, you really did a great job on the shape of the landing skid - I think there was a site posted recently that had some pretty decent detail photos of the skids on the full scale mock up... gimme a sec to dig up the link... Ah yes... here they are.

Viper Mock-up in Storage (http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Viper/ViperMockupStorage.htm)

Galactica 1980 Viper Mock-up (http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/Viper/ViperMockup1980.htm)

The entire site isa fabulous resource. I hope it helps!

-jaime
<who wants to see more!>


Thanks for the links, I could have sworn I thanked you this morning and the post has vanished, but thanks again, I am already updating the skids thanks to the knew pics.

[biotech]

Heres an update based on the new images.

[Freak]

it looking a lot better!

[biotech]

Thanks!

[Darth Malice]

Yeah still looks good...:)

[Cinnamon]

Thanks for the links, I could have sworn I thanked you this morning and the post has vanished, but thanks again, I am already updating the skids thanks to the knew pics.

You're more than welcome - I just love to see what you're doing with this model. The new skids look stellar, too. I feel pretty safe in saying that this is going to be the seminal TOS Viper mesh. Absolutely love it. =^_^=

Cheers!

-jaime

[biotech]

Thanks again, my time to work on it is limited, so it might be a while before the next update

[biotech]

Got a little more done, got carried away with the details though, I dont suppose anyone will ever notice those nuts are chamfered, but I always try and avoid hard edges now.

[Cinnamon]

And, as expected, the update was worth waiting for. ^_^

Ganbatte!

-jaime

[biotech]

Thanks!

[Darth Malice]

Does it have any kind of support arm/brace thats attached to that sleeve? Just looks a little fragile as it is. Nice work though, keep it up...:thumb:

[biotech]

It certainly does, I just havent added it yet, although you can probably see where it will conect.

[Darth Malice]

Ahh cool I thought so...:D

[Freak]

You are really going for the little details, that you won't see except on a close up. Nice!

[Taranis]

I had these for a while stored on a disc ... possibly too late for you but!!:)

[biotech]

Not too late at all, I never did those due to lack of references, so these are very handy indeed, thanks!

[Darth Malice]

Oh, cool. Does this mean you`ll start work on this again?..

Nice work Taranis...:thumb:

[biotech]

I recon I should really finish this after I finish the colonial movers, might even finish my raider too.

[Darth Malice]

Sweet!..:thumb:

[Freak]

I had these for a while stored on a disc ... possibly too late for you but!!:)
Sweet, these would be hand as a ref for the landing gear I am building at the moment.

Rich I look forward to see you back on this project.

[mdsystemsuk]

Nice pice of work. :)

i don’t know nothing about how you do this and I don’t mean to criticize but...

--The cockpit needs to be able to slide open forward sort of clipped around the nose cone in an L shape grove and it has the front glass panel narrow at the top and wider at the bottom and doesn’t go into a point.
Also the left and right atmosphere intakes are more shaped like a quarter circles and not rounded squares, left and right guns are positioned under the wings.

I don’t know all the tech terms for this but i hope you can muddle through.

[biotech]

Perhaps you are thinking of the viper from the new series, either that or every reference I have gathered in the last few years, the DVDs of the show, and the model on my desk are all wrong.

[biotech]

Sorry for bumping my own thread, but I was going to work on the landing gear a bit more tonight, only to find I cant find a version of my model with landing gear anywhere on my external drive, which is a bit of a bugger, at least the rest of the viper is saved.

That sweet viper the other guy is making is making me want to finally finish up mine.

[Taranis]

Sorry to hear that biotech . I built a ok version of it in lightwave .. don't know its its any use to you

[biotech]

Looks good, but I'll build them back myself, its just a pain when I've already done it once!

[Taranis]

I know .. I had problems like that myself ..

[Fightin Fae]

Anything new? I'd love to see some more as TOS BSG is one of my favorite shows.

Namaste

[Sly Assassin]

whoa necro post alert! I wouldn't hold my breath for an update straight away he might of done some more who knows.

[biotech]

If I had, I would have posted it