Stargate - ships of the line (ver II)

[Grzesiek]

This is my work of all stargate related material.

Collection of all meshes and various status:

Asguard O'nell :: 0%
Asguard Science ship :: 0%
Asguard orginal :: 0%
Atlantian Aurora :: 56%
Atlantian Atlantis :: 9%
Gua'uld Hatak :: 50% (re-release v1.5)
Gua'uld death glider :: 100% (v2 - released) thanks to Ramiel
Gua'uld teltak :: 100% (v1 - released)
Gua'uld alkesh :: 40%
Gua'uld Apophyis Mothership :: 0%
Gua'uld Anubis Mothership :: 0%
ORI :: 40%
ORI fighter :: 0%
Replicator ship :: 0%
Tau'ri Destiny :: 83%
Tau'ri 303 :: 60% (re-release v1.5)
Tau'ri 304 :: 40% (re-release v1.5)
Tau'ri 303-Bridge :: 100% (v1 - released)
Tau'ri f302 :: 70%
Wraith Dart :: 0%
Wraith Destroyer :: 0%
Wraith Carier :: 0%
Wraith Transport :: 0%
---
Jaffa :: 100% (v1 - released)
Jaffa - Serpent :: 100% (v1 - released)
Jaffa - Horus :: 100% (v1 - soon to be released)
Jaffa - Anubis :: 0%
Kull Warrior :: 0%

If I missed any tell me
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Destiny. Its for a Virtual Series, more info can be fond here: (Stargate Destiny - Where Will Your Destiny Lead You? (http://www.stargatedestiny.net)).

[Jedirath]

Nice the earth ships looks like a cross between the two earth class ships!!
Whats is size?

[Grzesiek]

550 m long 240 wide and 120 high. the tiny green specks are humans 2m tall :)

I should also mention that the design isn't mine, but rather going off a basic sketch provided by the virtual series leader. Arist was.. Adrian, not sure of the last name.

I liked it cause it reminds me more of the promethous, wich had a more rigit look. It actualy looks like it fits between the BC303 and BC304..

[exodus2310]

Its looking pretty damn nice. I assume you recieving the emails?

Oh and BTW, I'm not the Boss. I'm a producer/writer.

[Grzesiek]

Close enough :P

And a nice size comparison of most of the ships i'm in the process of making. Outside of the Destiny. Will add that during the next installment.

Overall most meshes (hatak, alkesh, teltak (find the teltak), bc303 and bc304) need some rework, as the export was a quick job just for the render.

[Alexzandyr]

I imagine the Teltak is that little "distortion" in the shadow of the Hatak

[Esquin]

Any chance of seeing the Destiny in that little array of Starships?

[Admiral Danev]

the daedalus looks a little 'stumpy', or too short!!!

[Grzesiek]

I'll add the Destiny for the next update. Along with major fixes to all the rest of the ships.

As for the Deadalus... Its most likely the camera angle.

As for the Teltak.. yup, that shadow distortion. :)

More to come tomorrow.

[Grzesiek]

And an update.

Including now the Destiny.

As for the size reference. The show dosen't have one :P

With season 10 epi 01 of sg1, there is a nice size comparison between the Hatak and bc304, along with the hatak and ori. Surfice it to say that there is no size comparion in that one show. that would make the bc304 twice as big as it was in the previous episode :P

I'm using the fighter bays and size of fighters/human pilots to do a more realistic comparison. I'll double check them to have as realistick for a non realistic show size comparison :P

After all, humans dont' need a masive sized ship as they don't have the resources to build one twice the size of hatak. The hataks were the pyramids, and the bc303/bc304 were the ants, humans attempt to have a "space ship".

So to me the Hatak must be bigger, not as puny as they showed in season 10 epi 01 episode

[Esquin]

Are you sure about that?

The Promy is 200-300 meters long, the Daedalus is about 450 meters. So I think your sizes there are a fair bit off.

The Destiny should be a good 100 meters longer then the Daedalus. I used those lengths written to make the original design.

Also Camelot and Flesh and Blood are horrible for scaling. The ha'taks should be alot bigger and the O'niell class ship in the episode is way to small. Just and FYI

[Grzesiek]

really? intersting. Where did you find that info? I'll try to validate that with the size of fighters. to tell you the truth, i didn't do that for the deadalus, just don't tell anyone ;)

The O'niell, something on my long, very very long list of ships to do :P

I'll try to first get the Destiny size correct, then i'll see how the deadalus size. Update tomorrow.

[BluebloodUK]

All of them look utterly amazing. I'll be following this with keen interest!

[malach]

those last two renders make them look like a bunch of toys sitting on a table.

very nice work! :thumb: :thumb:

[Ramiel]

Well Greg, I love your stargate ships (and you know it:shiner: )

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the replys.

And nice to see you Ramiel. New avitar I see.

Another update.

Right now only the two ships are properly sized. I used the little green dots (2meter high person) for size comparison. So they are as acurate and fitting.

Also turrets on the destiny along with modified weapon layout.

Still way to go. But i have vacation comming up, so don't expect updates till next tuesday.

[BluebloodUK]

Man, I am in love with those designs.

Can I ask my peers though: what's the Destiny? I'm only really an SG:A viewer (I oddly find SG-1 difficult to stomach) so maybe I'm missing something. :)

[exodus2310]

Stargate Destiny is a fan written virtual series. Think of it as a fancy form of fanfiction. An idea concieved as a TV series, written as scripts and released on the internet. It has seasons, episodes, characters, virtual actors and in some lucky cases (like ourselves) CG artists to do ships.

Stargate Destiny - Where Will Your Destiny Lead You? (http://www.stargatedestiny.net)

Currently we have 10 episodes out and are working on the last 10. 4 have been finished, I'm working on my next one at the moment. Big space battle episode. Maybe we should tempt Grzesiek into doing some alien designs ;-)

Anyway, that looks frigging awesome. I really can't wait to see that textured.

[BluebloodUK]

The following is OT, for that I'm sorry:

Holy crap! This series looks incredible!

Consider yourselves having a new fan. :D

Makes my "Stargate: Hyperborea" 'interactive fiction' look dire! Damn you sir! ;)

/OT

[exodus2310]

Blueblood, the pilot is pretty long but you should enjoy it. Be sure to sign up to the forum and let us know what you think.

[BluebloodUK]

Copy that, over. :)

[Nightwing]

i like what you got going. very nice. just curious, do you have schematic references to work with for your ori ship? or was it just from some screenshots from the series?

[Ramiel]

Thanks for the replys.

And nice to see you Ramiel. New avitar I see.
He he he... Yup, I change these avatars quite often (I have a big collection...:shiner: )
BTW
Very nice ships here!:thumb:

[Paveway]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the bridge of the Daedalus has windows to the front. You could use this as a point of scaling. I realize it might be hard to judge, but it could give you a ballpark figure. The bridge being the off set conning towerish thing on the top hull. You could also use guestaments of the window sizes on the external hull.

The epsiode where Vala steals the Prometheous has a shot of it landing on a planet, with a shot of "Han Solo" walking out to meet the smugglers. I can't recall if there is an open door and walkway that could be used for scaling purposes.

Likewise the Hataks in many episodes are shown with external windows from their bridge area (could just assume all windows are that size), or their hangar bays could be used as a source for scaling. You could just take the deminsion for the great Pyramid in egpyt and apply it to the Hataks:lol:

I know scaling can be a PITA.

[Dallidas]

acutally the daedalus' bridge is past the misseil tubes but before the huge plate thingy covering the hangar bays, Not the front windows, or the conning tower

[freekzilla]

Are you sure about that?

The Promy is 200-300 meters long, the Daedalus is about 450 meters. So I think your sizes there are a fair bit off.

The Destiny should be a good 100 meters longer then the Daedalus. I used those lengths written to make the original design.

Also Camelot and Flesh and Blood are horrible for scaling. The ha'taks should be alot bigger and the O'niell class ship in the episode is way to small. Just and FYI

Actually, Grzesiek's sizing is spot on. Not perfect, but pretty darn close. I've done a lot of researching around the web and loads of people think the sizing in SG-1 Camalot and Flesh-n-Blood is way off. They are in FACT not. The camera angles distort the sizes and proportions. A much earlier episode of SG-1 stated that the Ha'tak class pyramids were about 650 meters. With it known that the Daedalus being around 450 meters, the scaling is right. Another point is that people keep saying that the "O'Neill class Asgard ship was far too small. If people actually paid attention they'd know that it was NOT an O'Neill class at all. It was in fact an Asgard Science ship. It was probably a Daniel Jackson class, which is a LOT smaller than an O'Neill. So, Grzesiek, your scaling is fine.

[Esquin]

The Prometheus was still to large and Destiny too small. And since I designed the Destiny I know how large it was suposed to be. The second scaling of the Destiny is in fact accurate.

[freekzilla]

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that the destiny was in scale too. I meant the "cannon" ships. But you are right, the Destiny should be bigger. It is supposed to be 550 meters right?

[lennier1]

Interesting progress. Do you use your old low-poly SG models as background deco for this project?

[freekzilla]

He he he... Yup, I change these avatars quite often (I have a big collection...:shiner: )
BTW
Very nice ships here!:thumb:

I'll take 2 of what's IN the avatar thank you. :thumb: :lol:

[Ramiel]

I'll take 2 of what's IN the avatar thank you. :thumb: :lol:
I can point you in the right direction, if you want:devil:

[freekzilla]

I can point you in the right direction, if you want:devil:

Ummm,.....pssst! *whispering* Point away. Who is that by the way?

[Ramiel]

An italian showgirl called Giorgia Palmas... (Try a search with images.google.com :shiner: )
:D

[freekzilla]

An italian showgirl called Giorgia Palmas... (Try a search with images.google.com :shiner: )
:D

Ahhhhhhhh, I've heard that name before. Me likey likey. I'm part Italian so, I have this thing for big long dark hair and purty Italian girls.

;) :D ;) :thumb: :p

[hermiod]

Actually, Grzesiek's sizing is spot on. Not perfect, but pretty darn close. I've done a lot of researching around the web and loads of people think the sizing in SG-1 Camalot and Flesh-n-Blood is way off. They are in FACT not. The camera angles distort the sizes and proportions. A much earlier episode of SG-1 stated that the Ha'tak class pyramids were about 650 meters. With it known that the Daedalus being around 450 meters, the scaling is right. Another point is that people keep saying that the "O'Neill class Asgard ship was far too small. If people actually paid attention they'd know that it was NOT an O'Neill class at all. It was in fact an Asgard Science ship. It was probably a Daniel Jackson class, which is a LOT smaller than an O'Neill. So, Grzesiek, your scaling is fine.


You`re right about everything except the Asgard ship.
The model used WAS an O`Neill class, although whether it is actually intended to be the O`Neill class or a smaller class of Asgard ship with the same design is anyone`s guess.

6x12_0001.html (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sg1/s6/612/html/6x12_0001.html) - this is a comparison of an O`Neill class and the Prometheus.

Attached is the scene from 'Camelot' showing the Odyssey and the Asgard ship. Taking into account the camera perspective that still puts the Asgard ship at a size either the same or slightly larger than the Odyssey.

Ships - Asgard science vessel (http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/ships/a/asgardsciencevessel.shtml) - Here is a link to a picture of the Asgard Daniel Jackson-class Science Vessel.

This and the ship in 'Camelot' are clearly not the same. View the second attached image if still unsure.

To sum up:

The Asgard ship IS an O`Neill class (or a smaller ship of the same design) and the scaling is obviously way off. It should`ve been alot bigger than it was. I suspect the shrinking was to make the Ori ships look more formidable or because the VFX house that did that scene was unaware of the size comparisons.
It is NOT a Daniel Jackson class as the design is completely different.

[cooky]

I read something on gateworld recently that all of Camelot's cg work was done in-house, by stargate's own vfx department. How much they got right, and how much they got wrong is hard to tell.

The Ha'tak's and 304's seam to be scaled properly to each other. The supergate's components are way to big though. As for the Asgard ship, it could be wrong in camelot, or right in camelot and wrong in the pic with Prometheus. It's to bad there is no way to tell for sure.

[freekzilla]

You`re right about everything except the Asgard ship.
The model used WAS an O`Neill class, although whether it is actually intended to be the O`Neill class or a smaller class of Asgard ship with the same design is anyone`s guess.

6x12_0001.html (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sg1/s6/612/html/6x12_0001.html) - this is a comparison of an O`Neill class and the Prometheus.

Attached is the scene from 'Camelot' showing the Odyssey and the Asgard ship. Taking into account the camera perspective that still puts the Asgard ship at a size either the same or slightly larger than the Odyssey.

Ships - Asgard science vessel (http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/ships/a/asgardsciencevessel.shtml) - Here is a link to a picture of the Asgard Daniel Jackson-class Science Vessel.

This and the ship in 'Camelot' are clearly not the same. View the second attached image if still unsure.

To sum up:

The Asgard ship IS an O`Neill class (or a smaller ship of the same design) and the scaling is obviously way off. It should`ve been alot bigger than it was. I suspect the shrinking was to make the Ori ships look more formidable or because the VFX house that did that scene was unaware of the size comparisons.
It is NOT a Daniel Jackson class as the design is completely different.


Hermiod,
This is one of the places I got my info.

GateWorld - Stargate SG-1 Season Nine: 'Camelot' (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s9/920.shtml)

Near the bottom it states that the Asgard ship present at the battle with the Ori was an Asgard Science ship. The O'Neill class was not a science ship. Thor said so in S4 ep 1 "Small Victories".

Obviously the O'Neill model was reused by the VFX guys for the science ship. But it was not nor was it intended to be the O'Neill class of ship. I was merely speculating on the name of the ship. The picture of the battle with the Ori you provided cannot accurately be used to judge scale without a corresponding shot that is perpendicular so that some triangulation can be made. In your picture a Hatak class ship looks tiny compared to the Korolev. Obviously it's because of the distance away. I've checked other stills and the video and the Asgard ship is positioned between Odyssey and the Korolev and under a Hatak. In fact, the Asgard ship is SMALLER than the Odyssey or Korolev.

So here's what we know for sure:
1.) it was an Asgard science ship.
2.) it was OBVIOUSLY a reuse of the CGI model of the O'Neill
3.) the O'Neill class is not a science ship, but a warship. (Season 4 ep 1 "Small Victories")
4.) it is obviously a newer design with similarities to the O'Neill class.

What we don't know:
1.) the ship's name
2.) the ship's class
3.) the exact dimensions (though some estimates can be made) (I measured from a frontal shot and it is a little more than half the size of the korolev. Combined with the shot you have we can safely say the Asgard ship is about 60% the size of the korolev or Odyssey. This fits with the scaling shown in the rest of the episode. )

I seem to remember something about a second ship being named after Daniel Jackson after the original older version was destroyed around the end of the Replicator War. I thought this strange because, I would have figured the Asgard would have a second O'Neill before a second DJ. That's what stuck out in my mind. I am not 100% sure about that, but I will try to find evidence either for or against it. It was before season 9, because Jack was in the gateroom with Daniel when it was stated. To which I remember Jack saying something like, "How nice for you." or something like that which had a touch of sarcasm in it. But this is neither here nor there because it is just speculation at this point. There are somethings we do know for sure. The scaling for the ships is NOT wrong. It was assumed that the Asgard ship was the O'Neill class because it had the same shape. Other people have tried to say the Hataks were scaled wrong as well. Some of that is based on the assumption that the Asgard ship was an O'Neill class. Someone just posted that the in-house VFX crew did the shots for both episodes. I'd like to think that a rookie mistake like that wouldn't be made by the pros. I hope. So you are right in saying that the CGI model of the O'Neill was used, but it definitely was not an O'Neill class ship portrayed in the episode. Put it all together and you get that the VFX guys got it right and we, the public, got it wrong. There is just a few pieces of information missing that could put this arguement to rest for good.

Now, you said this:

The Asgard ship IS an O`Neill class (or a smaller ship of the same design) and the scaling is obviously way off.

How can it be an O'Neill class if it's a ship that is smaller? Wouldn't that make it a different class and NOT an O'Neill? If you scale a 747 down to the size of an F-15, wouldn't it be quite different inside as well? You won't have 400+ seats inside the scaled down 747 unless you are making it for smurfs. Not to mention the support structure (framing). So a different size automatically makes it a different class and design even though it has the same design elements and look. You are basing your assumption that the scaling is off on the assumption that it is an O'Neill class to begin with. And who says that all Asgard ships are the same size and always bigger than what the Odyssey is? Where is the proof of that?

Attached is the scene from 'Camelot' showing the Odyssey and the Asgard ship. Taking into account the camera perspective that still puts the Asgard ship at a size either the same or slightly larger than the Odyssey.

Did you base your scaling on that one shot alone? You can't estimate scale based on one two dimensional picture. Two pictures showing the same scene from different angles would work however.

I will agree that the info provided in the episode was a bit vague and mistaken assumptions can and were made. I will post the screen caps showing the position and size of the Asgard vessel as soon as possible.

Sorry for jumping all over you like this. I've seen people on several sights screaming that the scaling for the episode was this or that and what a crap job the VFX guys did and blah blah blah....

[freekzilla]

ok, here's the screen caps I got. They speak for themselves.

[Dreddmax]

And where we can have this models ?

[exodus2310]

Hows work on Destiny coming?

[Grzesiek]

quick reply.

thanks. and an update :)

[Grzesiek]

For my scale, i'm using humans as size comparison, not the cg shots in the show. :) Afterall a human doesn't change its size (much :P)

The supergate, same concern, it could not fit through the stargate. period.

Update on the destiny and size chart. The orion will end up bigger once i model in the bridge for size comparison.

The figter bay is a through ship design. I like the front exit and rear entry approach, i hope so do you. :)

There will be a few more engines at the back, and the hyperdrive will be modfied some more, but general shape is almost complete. Now the details... lots of them.

[Tveakk]

hehe nice models, i dont know if its me or what, but the models look much better in this web-site than in the actuall series.

anyone else feel that way?:thumb:

[exodus2310]

Oh wow. The Destiny is looking amazing. I like the fleet image too.

[Grzesiek]

They look good probably because they look so inosent ;) Or toys we all would like on our tables. :)

I'll adjust the teltak and alkesh as i used screen caps instead of size comparisons. Same goes for BC303.

[hariel]

I love the renderings, very cool. :thumb: :thumb:

[Dr Lee]

Wow man these look great. I'll certainly be keeping an eye on this thread.

I would just like to correct one thng though. It was said that the Deadalus Class ships were BC-304s when it's been confirmed that they are actually DSC-304s (Deep Space Carrier-304).

Also i thought that the Prometheus was always known as the X-303, though i could be wrong.

[Captain Card]

Wow man these look great. I'll certainly be keeping an eye on this thread.

I would just like to correct one thng though. It was said that the Deadalus Class ships were BC-304s when it's been confirmed that they are actually DSC-304s (Deep Space Carrier-304).

Also i thought that the Prometheus was always known as the X-303, though i could be wrong.
It was when it was a prototype when the desgin was finalised it became BC-303

[Calinoma]

Hey, my name's geoff, and I'm kinda new here, but I'm the exec. producer of Stargate: Destiny, and I drool over the destiny designs every time i see them. sorry i haven't ever been in contact with you personally, Grzesik, but I want to say thank you right now for helping us out.

Thanks.

[Grzesiek]

Didn't know it was a DSC 304. Intresting.. where did you hear that? But i guess it fits.

And another update. Now the sizing is almost complete - except for the f302 and the death glider (soon to be included ;) ) along with maybe the F308. That depends on how well the Destiny gets along.

Also a quick question. Destiny. Is it then a DSC? or a BC? 305.

[ZakeD]

Depends on what you wanna classify it as.

Good job on the Destiny so far, I like that ship a lot. Good job on the others as well.:D

[Calinoma]

Actually, the Destiny is a whole new class of vessel -- XC-314, but its more official title would be EC-314 for Expeditionary Cruiser.

[harrisw]

It would be interesting to see Anubis's mothership alongside that fleet image to see how it compares in size to the Ori motherships.

[exodus2310]

Didn't know it was a DSC 304. Intresting.. where did you hear that? But i guess it fits.

And another update. Now the sizing is almost complete - except for the f302 and the death glider (soon to be included ;) ) along with maybe the F308. That depends on how well the Destiny gets along.

Also a quick question. Destiny. Is it then a DSC? or a BC? 305.

Wow, she sure looks nice. You're doing a fantastic job on this.

[Dr Lee]

I'm on a couple of different stargate forums (under this handle) and it was noticed on one of them that the ship patches on the uniforms of the Odyssey's crew said that they are called DSC-304's.

It was also said in the penultimate episode of Season 9 that they were -304s and not modified -303s.

As you can probably guess i'm a bit of a stargate nut lol

[Calinoma]

Nothing wrong with that haha

[exodus2310]

Yeah, it's something I got confused with too.

Prometheus - X303
Daedalus and others- BC304.

[Grzesiek]

Yeha, i do remember when Daniel asked that new boss of SGC, in the end whad did we have to give them. and then the reply was 304..

As for the Anubis mother ship... (somewhere on the list of things to do :P)

So we have

BC 303 - Promethous Class
DSC 304 - Deadalus Class
EC 314 - Destiny Class

Guess I have 10 more ships to fill in ;) and the x300 x301 x302 so that 13... wow. you guys just keep making more and more work for me :)

With that an update on the Destiny. the EC 314 ;)

Still need to find good reference for the rail gun turrets. I know that the EC314 will have newer version, I'd just like to see the current one.

F302 comming soon ;)

[exodus2310]

Oh man, that is gorgous.

[Calinoma]

Oh man... beautiful.

And about 10 more ships, haha, its like 8 years down the line, and several of those ships probably never made it past the "X".

[exodus2310]

Isn't the Prophecy next?

[Paveway]

Kinda nose heavy looking tho....seems like it needs something else in back to balance that bulky look to the front to me...maybe when the engines are done it might look better.....jmo

[Dr Lee]

Isn't the Prophecy next?
Are you talking aobut ships or Stargate episodes? If it's the latter then the next one to air is 'Insiders'

[Esquin]

No he means the ships in the Stargate VS universe. The next 314 class is the Prophecy.

[Tachyon]

the ships look awesome.

by the way, what class are the ori ships? They look like toilet bowls so I guess they are toilet bowl class ships.:lol:

awesome work man!

[Calinoma]

Well, you're not supposed to talk about the Prophecy yet... but I guess I could say here... there were three planned: The Destiny, Prophecy and the Infinity.

[exodus2310]

Anyway. We best stop rambling. The fighter bay is in the nose, right Adrian? Thats why its a lil big.

[Grzesiek]

yes, you better stop :P

And yes, the fighter bay is in the nose area. Bay doors are facing aft.

Also There will be retractable legs in the aft side to compensate for the aft when its landing.

Next update will on monday/ tuesday, as i dont' have internet access at home. Only at work, and there is no way i'm comming in to work on saturday (well just to post updates :P)

[Calinoma]

This is looking to be pretty sweet.

[SADDAMINSANE]

The Daedalus is 335m long 192m wide and 68m high.

Checkout Daedalus class battlecruiser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daedalus_class_battlecruiser)

The Prometheus was 256m long 104m wide and 71m high

Chesckout Prometheus (Stargate) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28Stargate%29)


Bow Before Your God:devil:

[Esquin]

Wikapedia is a fan built site and therefor unreliable by its very nature. The best comparison for size is by comparing the hataks to the great pyramid and then using pre-camelot cg shots to get an idea of the size of the earth ships.

[MocaMoses]

So in the fleet what is the ship next to the Deadalus?
I dont recognize it.

[Esquin]

Its the Destiny. It's Designed for a Virtual Spin off Series. Read through the topic it's all there.

[Grzesiek]

As for the Ori design. Screen caps ;) (lots of them) Especialy from when Valha contacted Earth via Daniel and was telling here story, there is a shot from a hill top of the ships on the ground.

Luckly now there is more reference in this season. So expect an update on it too.

As for size comparison. Remember one thing, I'm not going by what is general writen on the webs, and even on some screen shot compraisons. I'm using a Human 2m object reference to get a decently acruate scale. That is why the BC303 is that big, as a human would not fit into the airlocks if it was any smaller ;) So don't expect this to be 100% like the show. As even in the show ships change size as the directors need :D

[Majestic]

Looking good. :thumb:

[Calinoma]

Any updates? Or do I get shot for asking that on this forum

[Grzesiek]

Yes you get shot for it:P

Well i had a little glitch in the system, and had to reformat my HD (well just the OS partition) and reinstall. Don't worry NOTHING was lost. And the Nth backups i have make sure nothing,, Well mostly nothing would get lost if i loose the HD.

So no updates today. Sorry.

To the forum developers. Would be nice if you add a backup reminder system. Sends an email or a PM at a certain intervals to remind us all to backup. There is a few too many cases when someone posts... BAD news... lost my Hard Drive. (too many as even One is too many) ;)

[Grzesiek]

Update :)

About time ;)

small, but still. Added airlocks. Some armour. And landing pads. Not much but I'm jumping between 4 projects now. :) Dam I need to clone my self. Where is Balh when you need him ;)

[Esquin]

It's like a dream. Truely incredible man, I grow more impressed each time I see it. Keep up the fantastic work.

And remember, when it gets textured warn us before posting. We may have to prepare our eyes to look at size awesomness.

[Grzesiek]

Still way off before i get to texturing. This will end up very detailed polygon wise before I slap textures on this.

And If I remember to ost the warning sign, i will ;)

[Grzesiek]

Small update on the fleet.

small tweak to the aurora.

Also with regards to the Destiny.. The Size. Do you want me to modify the destiny to be exactly the dimentions you provided? Currently its short in all dimentions. by even 60-80meters in length...

[Esquin]

I think it looks pretty good now don't you? I'm not sure altering that would be a wise thing to do.

If you can do it jsut to see how it looks go right ahead, but I think it looks fine with your alterations so don't do it on my account.

[Grzesiek]

Well if i keep adding more detail, it will be more difficult to change the size then. If you specified the size in the show, I'll adjust it to have it as acurate as possible. Thanks.

[Esquin]

Oh we didn't specify the size. The way you've done it is fine in every respect.

[alt1701]

Can't wait till they are done

[Calinoma]

Yeah, the size is perfect, looks just as big as I had intended. Obviously larger than a Daedalus class, but not too huge.

Great work man.

As for an exact size... how about just little less than twice as long as a DSC-304? That's how it looks to me. And the main body about twice as wide as the main body of the daedalus. You get what I mean by "main body", right? You can give us the numbers.

[Falcon1]

U know I think you have something going on here, up to now I've found that the Stargate human ships kinda suck in design. But having them side by side plus the new designs well it looks good. I just wish that the show ships would look more massive and agressive looking. keep it up

[Calinoma]

Haha, I think we can take that as a compliment :)

[Grzesiek]

Update.

I'll see about the size thign. I'll make a "dumy version" to show the size comparison. But general i feel that might be too big. even 10 years ahead, earth will have dificulties producing ships of that size. Remember, they dont' have slave workers.. Well i guess if you pay someone 1$ /hr then i guess you can call it slave work ;)

The widening. I might try, as that might be less intrucive to the overall shape. Well i'll try first the one you asked for, then a few side versions for comparison.

Beyond that, i would need to add more guns :P (wich isn't too bad) but again, before i do that, here is the current progress.

Enjoy.

[Calinoma]

Looking nicer all the time dude. Hmmm... I dont really see a problem with the size really. I mean, look at other technology in the past ten years (or so)... cell phones... they've gone from being bulky things to these now slim, fit two or three in the palm of your hand things. I know phones and ships isnt a good comparison, but still. I dont think the size is a problem. After all, its meant for a larger crew and longer range missions.

[baptiste11]

Last pics are cool Grzesiek !

[Falcon1]

What bothered me the most about the Prometheus was the 2x nacelles thing. The one you have going on is much more cooler.

I'm also kinda of surprise to see that the humans takes so long to establish 2 to 3x colonies on other planets. It would be a start toward a bigger civilization

[om3ga]

I just joined this forum, and first of all let me say that you guys are doing an awsome job. But I am mostly impressed with Grzesiek's work. I am amazed with what your doing. I am a big fan of both shows, SG-1 and SG-A, and I have to say that what your doing is incredible. I only have one question about Destiny.... When will I see it on TV. lol... but seriously I would love see the script over on Stargatedestiny.net on tv as a series and Would love them to incorporate your ship into a show.... Hell I would watch it, and I know alot of other geeks like me would. I already cant stop watching Atlantis... even when the episodes are kinda bad. I have seen each episode of Atlantis at least 6 times... lol

But yeah nice work on that man.. and I will definatly be looking out for your updates.

[Calinoma]

Hey, thanks for you enthusiasm about the show. You know, thats a question we get asked a lot. Sorry to say, you won't be seeing our episodes on TV ever. We're called a Virtual Series (VS). REally, we're just a bunch of people between the ages of 15 and 20 who write these things, so hey. You can find out more about VS's at Stargate Universe - [] (http://www.sg-universe.net) as well.

And about the model of the destiny... when I was talking about the dimensions, i didnt mean make it any bigger, i just was kind of saying that thats what it looked like, and thats how it should be kept. the way you have it in the most recent "fleet" picture is fine.

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the comments.

Ok, wont' change the size of the ship. Also no updates till monday. When when monday roles up... expect something. (well I hope, no one can predict the future.. not even the asguard :P)

But i think more updates on the aurora class then the others.

[Esquin]

You know theres a certain pillar on a little planet that Ares once tried to conquer which would indicate otherwise(with the predicting the future thing)

[Grzesiek]

Actualy, just rememberd. time machine on one of the planets, part of a gateship 1 :P. That was the only successfull time machine so far :) (And there was the gate travel with wormhole traveling near a sun, wich then propelled them backwards then forwards in time :P... OK enough of time travel blabel.

I should have some nice updates on the aurora and the destiny comming up monday. But dont' kill me if something else (real live) comes up.

[SADDAMINSANE]

Do you plan on adding a Wraith hive ship or cruiser to your fleet?


Bow Before Your God:devil:

[Esquin]

A model of a wraith hive ship. I can jsut imagine how frustrating taht would be to make. Actually I cant. And as for a cruiser, is there even enough reference material for one?

[Grzesiek]

THe hive ships are currently on my list, on the bottom of a very very long list of ships I want to model.. but as i watch more and more atlantis... its slowly climbing. Depending on reference. But first the ones you see (and a few you dont non SG related)

[wraith_shadow]

There is a problem with your BC-304. The nose is too short. It needs to come out atleast 1/4 more. That just was bugging me.
Image:Daedalus in orbit.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Daedalus_in_orbit.jpg)

But still they all look great. Also will destiny be an animated virtual series? Looking around I found some online series of shows, star trek, and one for stargate, which are just unbearable to watch. They are so, wrong. It would just seem to work out better if it was all CGI.

[Esquin]

Destiny is purly a written show. We may reate short animated clips in the future, but not whole episodes.

[Calinoma]

Yes, we're hoping to get some short clips done, but nothing that owuld directly correlate into the show (as in an animation of a full scene).

[Grzesiek]

I'll have a look at the deadalus later, but it could be the camera angle.

Well as promissed. update.

Well not the one i promissed. I promissed update on the aurora.. ended up working on the destiny... ohh well. :P

Weapon laucher. and overall more detail :) now i have to develop the drone launcher, and weapons are compete.

Next update in a day or two.

[baptiste11]

Last pics are cool Grzesiek, great job !!!

[Calinoma]

Wow, I'm loving all the details you're adding.

I just have to ask --- what are the weapons with the single square-barreled launchers?

[Dallidas]

Wow, I'm loving all the details you're adding.

I just have to ask --- what are the weapons with the single square-barreled launchers?

they look like missile launchers to me. if they are they wouldnt be very useful unless they can reload some how

[Grzesiek]

that was suppose to be drone launcher. i dont' have any reference of them so that is totaly temporary. Will fix it as soon as i get some good (better then non) references.

[exodus2310]

Oh wow!!! That detailing is awesome!

[Lord Erisu]

that was suppose to be drone launcher. i dont' have any reference of them so that is totaly temporary. Will fix it as soon as i get some good (better then non) references.

I personally think "hatches" would be better suited for the purpose of drones. Like those from the SGA Season2 Premier episode.

[exodus2310]

Well in the series, our launchers are basically converted missle launchers since the ship wasn't built for drones.

[ZakeD]

I'm really really loving the destiny. Great job!

[Calinoma]

Yeah, I've never really imaggined drones actually coming out of missile turrets because originially we didnt have turrents on the ships, we had more of these rotating pod things, so I'm thinking we maybe just REPLACE four of the missile launchers with the actual hattch things like seen in Atlantis' "The Seige, Part 2" and "No Man's Land". The replacement thing... that was my idea from the beginning. Rather than building a whole new weapons system for the ship, they chose to incorporate a few of the drone launchers into a pre-existing one.

siege252.html (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s1/120/html/siege252.html) Like that

[Grzesiek]

Updates.

Destiny :
Replaced turret with Drone hatch system, but used a more Earthly design :P I'll place two near the bridge and two towards the front? or just two by the bridge?

ORI :
Redoing the entire ship now that there is much better reference of the ship. Starting with the main outer hull. Still about 1/2 done with only the hull component, but its moving in the right direction.

[Bar]

That ORI ship looks brilliant.
Well done.
bar.

[Esquin]

Just 2 where the old ones near the bridge were grez. We want to keep the drone launchers centralised and not to many of them. So yeah just 1 in place of each of the main body launchers. Remember they are just missle launchers with the missle section removed.

[Calinoma]

Haha, those are looking sweet. and yeah, esquin's right about all that stuff.

[Grzesiek]

Another update.

ORI:

The outer hull is complete. Now just everything else, along with all the other ships ;P. Surfice it to say, i have ways to go :)

[Lee80]

nice work..:)

[Grzesiek]

Thanks.

Update (without a picture) :P (wich is almost totaly pointless for a cg update :D)

ORI:

Didn't get much work done. And just when I hoped the outer hull is at least complete.. ZIP. Nada. Had to redo a section or two. But now its done.

I'll start on the main core.

Destiny:
Not sure where to go from this point. Guess windows is the next question. How many do we want? I know its an exploration ship, so probably a few :) I still have to do the docking ports and more outer hull detail before I get started on the textures.

Aurora:
A lot of work.

Deadalus:
Adjust the front, a tad more detail here and there. Fix the front boom. And update the windows. Along with maybe a size tweak. (depending on the windows)

F302:
Import and finish its textures.

Death glider:
Import.

Teltak:
Textures

Alkesh:
Modeling and textures

Hatak.
Modeling and texturing

BC303
Texturing and some small modeling updates.

Hive ship:
To DO :P

Lots to do. And they will all be released (outside of the Deadalus). this will also include the bc303 bridge (import cleanup and release)


Updates comming on monday or tuesday. Weekend doesn't look to promissing for update (traveling to France)

[Grzesiek]

Update (with pictures.... well just one :P)

Aurora:
Finaly found a good site with HD screen caps of the Inferno episode. Good reference (now just have to wait for the season 3 screen caps for even more detail)

Working on the nose and general body of the ship.

[sumisu55]

Looking awsome! How big do you think she is?

[baptiste11]

Great job, indeed!!!!

[lennier1]

Looking awsome! How big do you think she is?Bigger than a school bus, smaller than William Shatner´s ego?

@Grzesiek: Great work as usual!

[pinchy417]

Things are looking fine. Are you still using Blender for those or another 3D package?

[usscapital]

looking good , cannot wait to see it finished

[exodus2310]

I've never really been fond of the Ancient ship design.

[usscapital]

I've never really been fond of the Ancient ship design.


i like the design more than any other stargate ship's in the show :o

[Grzesiek]

thanks for the replys.

As for size. the pic with all ships shows my current size comparison. Meter wise, to small compared to an Ori warship :P

And another update

Aurora:
The aft section, still slaving on extracting all the detail from the show. will take some time.

Next update Destiny.

As for the design of the lantian ships. We said the same thign about the human ships, and now we actualy enjoy them, well i do :P

[Ramiel]

Greg, I'm really liking the concept behind your newest ships (and the modeling too, of course:D )
Good job!:thumb:

[Dallidas]

As for the design of the lantian ships. We said the same thign about the human ships, and now we actualy enjoy them, well i do :P

i agree, took some time to get used to but they look awesome now. altough i dont believe that the lantian ships we have seen are there best ones. those would have been built quickly during the war, so im waiting for an unfinished ship thats all gleaming to show up somewhere.:D

[Warlord Kentax]

On topic: I can't wait for the atlantian ship to be done. Excellent job so far.

Off topic:
Hi, this is my first time on this forum. I got here while searching for the schematics of Stargate ships. Now I know this is quite likely the wrong thread to be talking about this but I thought I'd try here since you most exellent artists might have what I am looking for.

For the past few months I've been working on a stargate board/miniature game involving spaceships. I was just about to make the rules for the crew and how they effect the game when I realized that I needed ship schematics first. I tried drawing my own, but inevitably they sucked and thus I went surfing the internet to find schematics.

Here's a copy of the rules so far in Microsoft Word, Hyperupload :: download Stargate.doc (http://hyperupload.com/download/0283a75369/Stargate.doc.html)

So, I cordialy request any and all willing to help me in my endevor to post the top views of any of the following ships, you will be duely noted in the credits.

If any of the names are wrong, or I left out key ships, please let me know
F-302 Fighter
BC-303 Prometheus Class
BC-304 Daedalus Class
Death Glider
Al’kesh
Tel’tak
Ha’tak Mothership
Beliskner Class Cruiser
O'Neill Class Battleship
Daniel Jackson Class Science Vessel
Replicator Scout
Replicator Warship
Replicator Cruiser
Atlantis Class Battle Fortress
Aurora Class Battleship
Puddle Jumper
Wraith Dart
Wraith Scout
Wraith Supply Ship
Wraith Cruiser
Wraith Hiveship
Ori Fighter
Ori Warship

[Dallidas]

alot of the wraith stiff we be hard to get except the dart and hive ship which have been done. the ori fighter has almost no refs. Is the Atlantis Class Battle Fortress the city?? everything else you sohuld be able to find

[Warlord Kentax]

Yeah you're right, the Atlantis Class Battle Fortress is the city, or any other replica of it (as there have been two others so far in the show.)

My current issue is that I can't get the top or overhead views of any of the ships, I can get side views and perspective views but not top views and those are what I need to show different critical systems to the players. Kind of like Warmachine if you know what I'm talking about.

[ghost122333]

The Destiny looks great:thumb: one point of personal interest I remember reading in the pilot ep of SG Destiny that she had a large 'energy' weapon on her back???:D

[Dr Lee]

the Deadalus class ships are DSC-304s not DSC-304s.

[Bar]

the Deadalus class ships are DSC-304s not DSC-304s.
So they are DSC-304s, but not DSC-304s?
I honestly don't get that...

[Dr Lee]

Oops i meant to say that they aren't BC-304s.

[Bar]

That multi-colour sigline is getting old, dude. We all know it's the Prometheus and Daedalus. What does it matter what people call it? Let it go...
:D

[Majestic]

That multi-colour sigline is getting old, dude. We all know it's the Prometheus and Daedalus. What does it matter what people call it? Let it go...
:D

Yeah, agreed.

[Dr Lee]

I don't know why it bugs me as much as it does but it's been confirmed on the show what the designation is for the Deadalus class ships are, Yet there are so many who continue to call it something else.

I'll do my best in future to tone down my coments on this subject:)

[Bar]

I normally post on StarShipModeler, and they all call it the BC-304 there...
So do i, for that matter.
What episode do they confirm DSC in?
bar.

[Dr Lee]

It was in 'Off the Grid' that it was noticed that the patches on the uniforms read 'DSC'

I'll try and post a link to a screencap of that episode later today.

[Warlord Kentax]

If that is really what it is then you should go to Wikipedia and change it, that's where I got the BC-304.

[Dallidas]

the wiki is fan run so its not the most reliable source.

[cooky]

The patch said Deep Space Carrier, not DSC. Most assume that means the 304 designation is DSC, but it hasn't been said officially.

[Majestic]

Its been called many things, the two most common are Battlecruiser (BC) and Deep Space Carrier (DSC).

It was called DSC behind The Colonel that Commands the Odyessy in the breifing room on the Odyessy in Off the Grid.


Also has everyone else heard of SG-1 cancellation?

[Dallidas]

it hasnt been cancelled scifi just didnt sign up for another season. they WILL play the rest of the episodes though, thank god. although im glad the morons at skiffy no longer have in posession the longest running scifi show ever. they dont deserve it.

[Bar]

Also has everyone else heard of SG-1 cancellation?

It's just run it's course, is all.
It will all be tied up in time for a movie which kicks Ori Ass...
It couldn't last forever, but it will be very strange to not have new episodes of Sg-1 to watch.
The wierd thing is, every week, i watch SG-1 first, because i am saving Atlantis for last.
It's a pleasure delaying action, and i prefer Atlantis now.
It's not a black mark on SG-1, but i think Atlantis will really start to shine when SG-1 is no longer in the picture(In my mind, the same thing happened when TNG was cancelled: DS9 started to get pretty good, and only got better). With any luck, in a few years time, they can try another spin-off(Depending on how they wrap it up, maybe it will be a movie every three years like TNG...).
The end of an Era, true enough.
bar.

[Grzesiek]

All I can say, expect an update today. (I hope) Added allready some more detail but in a full size render its almost not visible. I'll just add more before I post it.

About the rest, its a 3d ship called the deadalus, and it was refered to 304. rest is interpelation. :P

About SG1 cancelation, well they a tad tired.. 10 years for a show, guess about time. but we still have atlantis.

[Warlord Kentax]

From what I heard is that the SG-1 movie will be the beginning of the next spinoff.

Anyone else have anything to say aboutmy Stargate board game?

[Majestic]

From what I heard is that the SG-1 movie will be the beginning of the next spinoff.


Got a link?

[Dr Lee]

Where did you hear about SG-1 being canceled?

[Ethon]

Here's the link GateWorld - SCI FI Channel confirms SG-1 cancellation (http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/08/sci_fi_channel_confirms_isg-1i_c.shtml)

[Grzesiek]

Well back to topic. (keep the sg1 cancelation subject for another forum

Update.

Destiny.

I tilted the rocket launchers by 17 degrees forward , this gives an intresting detail result and it improves lauch times by a few seconds :P Do you want me to include a horizontal (like subs torpedo laucher) missle launchers?

Windows are still in the works. There are also manovering thrusters, I'll render a closeup soon.

Updates going slow as I'm not in front of my computer, but usign a laptop, just not the same. but hey, at least they are comming ;P

[Paveway]

Re: Sub tube/launchers

Why not, we see the Daedalus' missiles arcing over to the horizontal to attack, wasting precious fuel and extending flight time. It only makes sense that some of the tubes are horizontal, preferable forward firing.

I still think the design just looks way nose heavy, cool, but still nose heavy. A battery of nose mounted missiles would give a credible reason why it has a huge nose on it.

[Grzesiek]

There is a fighter bay in it, contains a few F308 fighters. So mostly empty space. And missles up top, well only 16, but they are more effective (i guess) Future tech seems to be more prone to problems. :P

[Calinoma]

Hey...

[Warlord Kentax]

What kind of post is that? "Hey..."

What will the windows look like?

[Esquin]

No foward firing missle tubes. The ones already on their are fine.

As already said, the design looks nose heavy because thats where I put the fighter bay.

[Bar]

No foward firing missle tubes. The ones already on their are fine.

As already said, the design looks nose heavy because thats where I put the fighter bay.
Aren't the fighter bays underslung at the rear?
That's what i understood, anyway...
bar.

[baptiste11]

last pics are cool !

[Esquin]

The Fighter bay is under the nose. The 2 pods under the wings are hyperdrive engines.

[Grzesiek]

Yes, I have an udpate. :) about time, i know. But as i'm away from home, working on this laptop i have is terrible. Well more the hotel where I stayed. Almost no desk space..

Ok enough about complaining.

Update:

Destiny.

That hole on the side body still needs alot of detail. More detail on the wings, and overall just detail, windows, manuvering thrusters (few visible). And main aft engines. Which brings me to the question, what type of main engines do you want? Regular human fuel engine, Ion engine, or a mix?

This upcomming week there should be some updates across a few of the ships.

Update update;

small update on the nose section (last pic)

[SGA-3D]

Regular human fuel engine, Ion engine, or a mix?

I'd go with the mix. In the event that one of the engines is damaged/destroyed, you could switch over to the second engine whilst necassary repairs are made.

[baptiste11]

Good work with the new render Grzesiek!!!
SGA-3D , I agree entirely with you, good analysis :thumb: !!!

[Grzesiek]

was thinking the same... ok, i'll see what I can come up with.

by the way, comments are welcomed :P

[baptiste11]

You should make a modification for the speculatrity of your vessel and a texture dark you can take reference with the daedalus, that gives you a model of supports:
HERE (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/201/linz/html/stargate12189.html)
AND HERE (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s3/301/html/0013.html)
AND HERE (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s2/201/shroomy/html/siege3x495.html)

[Esquin]

Just Ion engines on the Destiny. I'm really liking where this is going. You've done my design more justice then I could of imagined. And while I know your not finished, it has already gone well past my expectations. Keep it up.

[Grzesiek]

Thanks. But texturing, i'm still ways ways off ;).

Will do for the engines. And happy you like it. :)

[Nebula]

extremely cool

[Calinoma]

Wow, loving it. And esquin and I are in agreement, just ion engines.

[captainpash]

Got to say I love this sutff. I'm another Destiny Writer.

[Endeavour]

I liked the concept art of Destiny better :( .

[Majestic]

Yes, I have an udpate. :) about time, i know. But as i'm away from home, working on this laptop i have is terrible. Well more the hotel where I stayed. Almost no desk space..

Ok enough about complaining.

Update:

Destiny.

That hole on the side body still needs alot of detail. More detail on the wings, and overall just detail, windows, manuvering thrusters (few visible). And main aft engines. Which brings me to the question, what type of main engines do you want? Regular human fuel engine, Ion engine, or a mix?

This upcomming week there should be some updates across a few of the ships.

Update update;

small update on the nose section (last pic)

Are you planning on putting landing bays on her?

[Esquin]

Ok Majestic seriously read the topic before asking stuff. The landing bay in under the nose section, if you look from the rear you can see the hanger doors facing the rear of the ship from under the nose.

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the comments.

Now updates:

Ori.
Started on the inner ring. Still ways to go, but its going there :P

Destiny.
More detail, added landing/manuvering thrusters. Modfied the engines. Quesiton: more like aurora (squareish) or regular circular ones like the ones now? To do. Landing bay. (will show closeup renders ;) ) and more more more far more detail :P (along with engines)

Aurora.
The main upper hull is complete. Now just the entire underside. Lots of work on her left. (she may be an ungly duckling, but still good looking :P) It will also include a low poly mesh bridge.

One thing i hope you all noticed. The aft tail of the Ori, is the exact same thing as the side weapon? thingy on the aurora. The pointy thingies. but it fits as they are from the same species :P


Enjoy

[Doble]

Love the first one, nice modelling!

[Calinoma]

The way the engines are on the Destiny are fine. And OMG, all of those look amazing dude.

[exodus2310]

Wow! She looks gorgous! Keep up the good work! And Esquin, behave!

[Nebula]

AHHH the Ori!!!!! :D they look great!

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the comments.

expect more soon ;) The bottom of aurora will take some time, and ofcourse the Ori is a beast in it self when it comes to it. Not to mention the Hive ships :P

[Grzesiek]

As prommised, another update.

Ori.
now trying to get the upper front area done, and still ways to go. Also found a few more things to do on the main hull of the Ori warship. And that's not to mention all the other detial and aft engine thingi...

[aben06]

As prommised, another update.

Ori.
now trying to get the upper front area done, and still ways to go. Also found a few more things to do on the main hull of the Ori warship. And that's not to mention all the other detial and aft engine thingi...

Positively Evil in a hallowed sort of way . Great to see someone doing one of these .Keep up the great work and i will continue to watch with interest .

Aben06

[Cerberus]

I can post some HD caps of the Orion, if it helps any?

[exodus2310]

That toilet bowl you're modelling sure looks great!

[Warlord Kentax]

After you are done, could you give me a top view of the ori ship? I'd love to use it in my stargate boardgame.

[exodus2310]

Looking at those latest Destiny pictures. I much prefer the hull patern in image 37 to 38.

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the comments.

Some HD screen caps of the toilet bowl would be welcomed. ;)

And top render is definately not a problem, but its still some time from being finished.

As for the Destiny, you like the previous armour plate... will see what I can come up with.

Very small update.

Ori ... Toilet Bowl :P
Just tinkering with the front, and started on the detail of the engine ring. Also tweaked the outer hull. But really, the outer hull is now complete (till next update :D)

[Cerberus]

I don't have any of the Ori...ok ok the toilet bowl yet. but i will have some good ones soon i hope. I DO have HD ones of the Orion/Aurora though if you want.
:thumb:

[Grzesiek]

I'd like them too, especialy the bottom and mid section (episode 3x01) if you can get some from that I'd appriciate it. Thanks :)

[Cerberus]

I'm nervous as to the 'spoiler' nature of these, but seeing as we are talking about the Orion i guess everyone here is up to date... right? :confused:

They aren't that greatest quality, but I think they may be helpful. I had to adjust the size a little to make them fit on the site. The first one is a good size comparison between the 304 and Orion.

As soon as I get some Ori ones or anything useful I will post.

Thank you.

[Cerberus]

and a couple more I could'nt fit the first time...

[Dan]

What do you mean 'not the greatest quality', those shots look amazing. I can even see that the registry of the Orion is F3X.

[Bar]

Well it was called the Hippopheralkus, who's to say how that's spelt in the language of the Alterrans?

[Firespray]

What do you mean 'not the greatest quality', those shots look amazing. I can even see that the registry of the Orion is F3X.

Aye, I wasn't even aware there were hi res screens of that scene out there:eek:

[Cerberus]

I made them myself :) well you know.. captured them myself.

[StarSlayer]

is it just me or do ancient warships look like somthing dug out of the Aliens universe scrapyard?

Course the ori fly around subjugating the galaxy in giant toilet seats

[usscapital]

Course the ori fly around subjugating the galaxy in giant toilet seats

lol that made me laugh :D , agreed though:thumb:

[Grzesiek]

Thanks.. They are perfect. Much better then the 400x300 res pics i had :P

As for size comparison. it will probably end up different. I'll use humans in the bridge setting as a size comparion and not rely to much on the CG shots. Afterall a human is a human :P

[Bar]

As for size comparison. it will probably end up different. I'll use humans in the bridge setting as a size comparion and not rely to much on the CG shots. Afterall a human is a human :P


Are you sure about that?
http://www.schijtzooi.nl/wp-content/wadlow.jpg

[Grzesiek]

Ok.. got me there.

Ok. let me refrase that. I would like for him to talk to us... ok... (good epi :P)

I'm using a 2 meter individual as a generic size comparison of the size, or close to. This makes the size comparison of the CG shots in the show totaly inacurate.

[Choo1701]

is it just me or do ancient warships look like somthing dug out of the Aliens universe scrapyard?

Course the ori fly around subjugating the galaxy in giant toilet seats

There all salesmen! :eek: RUN AWAY!!!!

and the Orion proberly looks like a lump of junk because it was built during the Ancient-Wraith war, so no real resources to speak of.

Still looks VERY different :thumb:

[Cerberus]

I'm glad ya'll like them. It's true that the CG shots are all sadly not necessarily scaled correctly. You only have to watch the end of SG1 Camelot to see that.

For the record, I like the Orion. I didn't at first... but now I do. and I like the Toilet Bowls too. atleast they are different.

[Cameron Mitchel]

I'm migrating my self to Blender and here are some small projects that i'm working on, and planing to work on.

First is a new Earth ship.. Destiny. Its for a Virtual Series, more info can be fond here: (Stargate Destiny - Where Will Your Destiny Lead You? (http://www.stargatedestiny.net)).

Second is the lovely Ori ship that I started in Cinema. going to continue it in blender as soon as i export it.

Third is (image not included yet) the aurora class battelship of atlantis.

Still have to port all previous work I've done. And I'll post all updates here.
Hey, are you thinking on maybe making a tutorial? I've been working on an Ori ship with Google Sketch:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9202/sketchuporins5.png

[Grzesiek]

Another update.

Aurora
The main hull is now complete.. Finaly. now just the side weapon pod and then all the nice detail that goes along with this ship :P I've added a front render to show you that overall the is that ugly and long as we thought, just the camera angle shows that she is more pritty then we though ;)

However the nose cone is still bugging me. Can't get it right, width and overall size wise. Well its as acurate as I want, and don't want to spend a year just to get the hull detail correctly.

Next update...
Destiny. The hull detail is in the plans. Overall I think it will end up being quite clean compared to the older siblings. Afterall its much into the future, so they at least should be able to produce lesss... uggly desings ;)

edit...

Sorry, forgot to reply about the tutorial... nobody ever asked me for one. Not sure what to say, thanks for the thought. But i have so many projects. Outside of the Stargate universe, i have 3 other projects that i'm working on, so there is slim chance that I'll find the time to make one. but as stated before. All ships i'm making (outside of Destiny) will be relased here on scifi-meshes. If you ask when, i'll just say ... When they are done ;)

[exodus2310]

Next update...
Destiny. The hull detail is in the plans. Overall I think it will end up being quite clean compared to the older siblings. Afterall its much into the future, so they at least should be able to produce lesss... uggly desings ;)


Don't make it too clean. We're not that far into the future and it's still function over asthetics.

[Cerberus]

and she costs money!

[Warlord Kentax]

You know, I thought about it and I don't really need the finnished version, if you even have a rough, or even just a screen shot instead of a render that would work, I have a thread Here (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/modelling-request-area/4801-stargate-boardgame-needs-schematics-pictures.html) and I need any sort of over view since it is just going to be a picture to represent different compartments and destroyable areas on each ship. So any and all pictures from the top view of any stargate ship would be appreciated greatly.

[Esquin]

Umm ok? Anyway yeah Grez clean is good but as Exodus said, its functionality over asthetics, it doesnt have to be clean to look uber.

[Grzesiek]

OK. so a tad more clean then deadalus, but not as clean as say, startrek ships with fresh paint :P

Top render, will do.

[Grzesiek]

Well an update.

Aurora. (only sorry)

The main body is complete. Well top is not going to be modified, the bottom (unchanged from last post) will still require a lot of tweaks.

Started to add some detail. Remeber that this mesh is not going to be uberly detailed. Its going to be a good aproximation, as I don't want to spend a year working on this mesh. ;)

Next.. Weapons pod, and more details on top + bridge.

During same time, the destiny and ori will get some attention. But as i'm not at home, updates are going to be spare. Luckly going home this friday. So monday should result is more updates then this week. (I Hope)

[aben06]

Well an update.

Aurora. (only sorry)

The main body is complete. Well top is not going to be modified, the bottom (unchanged from last post) will still require a lot of tweaks.

Started to add some detail. Remeber that this mesh is not going to be uberly detailed. Its going to be a good aproximation, as I don't want to spend a year working on this mesh. ;)

Next.. Weapons pod, and more details on top + bridge.

During same time, the destiny and ori will get some attention. But as i'm not at home, updates are going to be spare. Luckly going home this friday. So monday should result is more updates then this week. (I Hope)

I think you have really got the right proportions . There are a few other Orions and Aurora's being made on here (Scifi-Meshs) but yours seems the most right compared to the screen caps I've seen so congrates on that.
Follow your progress with interest .

aben06

[Sauron18]

Very nice, Grzesiek, it looks a lot like the caps and specs =)

[Grzesiek]

Update:

Aurora

Just general block details, no finer small ones.


Luckly weekend is comming (which means I"ll be home) so more update for other projects will be comming :)

[Ramiel]

Nice work Greg!:thumb:

[Dark Overlord]

nice ship.

You working from just those nice and dark screencaps?

[Admiral Danev]

wow that aurora is looking fantastic!!!!

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the comments.

Overall yes, only the screen caps. And mid resolution 2x19 episode. even low res videos sometimes show more detail then the best still. With video you get perception of design.

And another update.

Aurora.
general detailing. (bottom still ways to go) and some semi fine detail (next will be to add all the cannons.

Destiny
Engines. Still some work left on them, but they are getting there. :)

[Esquin]

Well you have been busy, I can only imagine how long that much detail would of taken.

Also now I've got a fair diea what you meant when you said you had a cool diea for the landing gear. Nice work.

And your Aurora model is comming nicley as well. What do you plan on doing for the engines? Or will you just add a glow to them?

[exodus2310]

Wow both of those looking freaking awesome! Astounding!

[Endeavour]

Yep, the Destiny is really growing on me. I just don't like the straight across stern.

[baptiste11]

Last pics are exlelent Grzesiek !!

[JeffrySG]

Wow... I havn't looked at this thread in a while, and I must say that you've has some amazing wip updates here! This is really a great thread to watch as all your wip posts are great to look at! looking forward to more!

top notch work!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

cheers!

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the replys.

But boy, i'm so far back with work its not even funny. But that is what you get when you work on various projects at onces :P

Update (small)

Ori.
Small frontal update. Still hoping for some HD screen caps of the cruiser ;)

Destiny.
Some rework on the bottom of the hull, along with better feet design. I hope to at least finish the bottom this month :P

Also need to prep some mesh releases... :P Which ones and when, you'll have to wait and see :)

[Ramiel]

Oh Greg,
Your work is getting better and better.
Keep it up!:thumb:

[exodus2310]

Your awesomeness only makes me more and more jelous. Oh and for those interested, Stargate Destiny has start6ed to release it's 2nd half of the first season. 1x11 and 1x12 are now out followed by my 3rd episode next week, 1x13.

[Warlord Kentax]

Those look gorgeous, they are already perfect for my game, if you want you can put up top views now and I'll use those, the top views are just for schematics any way.

[Cameron Mitchel]

Thanks for the replys.

But boy, i'm so far back with work its not even funny. But that is what you get when you work on various projects at onces :P

Update (small)

Ori.
Small frontal update. Still hoping for some HD screen caps of the cruiser ;)

Destiny.
Some rework on the bottom of the hull, along with better feet design. I hope to at least finish the bottom this month :P

Also need to prep some mesh releases... :P Which ones and when, you'll have to wait and see :)
Sorry, I don't agree. Not to be skeptical, but I believe the lower front part should be a little more rounded:

You can use these pics as references:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4356/ss3dbb7.png
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7241/ssfrontli9.png
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7934/sstopcq4.png
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9916/ssrightcv4.png

[Ramiel]

But these are references from a game, do you have any references from the tv show? (I think they will be more useful for Grzesiek;) )

[Endeavour]

Well, there's a fairly good video of the battle with the four Ori cruisers on youtube. If you want a link, I'll post it.

[Grzesiek]

Thanks..

The link to youtube not needed, have a better rez on my computer.

The schematics.. Thanks for the thought. Problem is that overall shape is close, but the hulls is quite inacurate. especialy the aft section. i know its form a game, hece the cubic shape. And as stated i'm going after some HD show screen caps. Remember that its all in the perspective... There are a few front shots, i'll take one match the perspective and see. Maybe you are right. I'll doube check. Thanks.


Update.. but not really

Just slapped all the latest versions of the meshes and adjusted the overall size.

Aurora
The aurora is now more acurate. Used the bridge and my 2m + object. Might still grow when I add some detail to the bridge. maybe another 20%.

Ori
Used the windows size for comparison. Might grow a tad to its previous size when I get more detail in the fron window area.

[chrisbarnett20]

Any chance of getting side & top view of your Aurora and Destiny(? - the one inbetween the goauld mothership and daedalus).

[Calinoma]

Wow, I love the new fleet. Destiny looks amazing dude.

[sumisu55]

Grzesiek,

Thanks for the group shot. I love to see the different sizes of all the ships when compared to each other. I have actually used some of your past group shots to help figure out sizes of the ships. Yours just seem so right when compared to other ships. So my measurements may not be accurate but hey they work for me. Keep up the great work. Loving it.

[mikala]

I would love to see some wires of these ships. All grey and naked they look really nice and clean...just wondering how heavy they are.

[Cameron Mitchel]

But these are references from a game, do you have any references from the tv show? (I think they will be more useful for Grzesiek;) )
They're actually references from another model that's used on a brdige commander mod called stargate ships pack

[Grzesiek]

Thanks for the comments.

I'll see about top n wire renders. (unless i forget to do them) :P

As for the Ori warship. Haven't had the time to double check. But I'm only going to use show reference as all other are someone elses interpretation of the original. Either way, thanks for the attempt Cameron Mitchel.

[cjabates]

yeah, I'm not too impressed by those stargate ship pack mod guys- especially since they're using my threader model without permission.

[DaAan]

cjabates they also used my death glider and x-301 without permissions either, i PMed someone at Bcfiles but i didnt get a resolution i liked really, they edited the readme on the site, and then 2 days later the team released an 'update' and again forgot to credit me :mad:. ah well cant win em all, the ships look good Grzesiek, i downloaded your deadalus from stargatemods.com a while back as some reference starting point kind of stuff for my own model when actual reference shots of the DSC-304 were in limited quantity and quality. keep up the good works :)

[Casperhead]

yeah, I'm not too impressed by those stargate ship pack mod guys- especially since they're using my threader model without permission.

Link me to them My wraiths will eat them for lunch.

[darkprince]

they also stole my hatak. :( its poppiong up everywhere *tear* so sad. im so never releasing anything again.

[Grzesiek]

No updates sorry. :(

Thanks for the complements all. Should have something tomorrow for you guys to comment. :) (I HOPE :P)

As for releasing, well I got burned by not releasing them. Kept them all for a mod, and mod died... :( Then put everything aside. Id rather release them for people to enjoy them. I know there will always be the "blank" who steals someones work and claims it as their own, but I won't let it ruin it for the rest.

As a side note. I'll also be releasing some B5 ships ;) (but don't ask when, and only here on scifi-meshes :P) At least then you have to be registered user.

aiden ford asked me what are the overall levels of completion on the meshes...

Bad news... Only few reached 50%...

Aurora :: 24%
Destiny :: 42%
303 :: 60% (re-release v1.5)
304 :: 40% (re-release v1.5)
303-Bridge :: 100% (v1 - release soon)
f302 :: 70%
Hatak :: 50% (re-release v1.5)
death glider :: 100% (thanks to Ramiel :) )
teltak :: 100% (v1 - release soon)
alkesh :: 40%
ORI :: 40%
ORI fighter :: 0%
Wraith Dart :: 0%
Wraith Destroyer :: 0%
Wraith Carier :: 0%
Wraith Transport :: 0%
Asguard O'nell :: 0%
Asguard Science ship :: 0%
Asguard orginal :: 0%
???

If I missed any tell me ;)


But again.. release... soon means ... when i get time to prep them for release :P

[Casperhead]

No updates sorry. :(

Thanks for the complements all. Should have something tomorrow for you guys to comment. :) (I HOPE :P)

As for releasing, well I got burned by not releasing them. Kept them all for a mod, and mod died... :( Then put everything aside. Id rather release them for people to enjoy them. I know there will always be the "blank" who steals someones work and claims it as their own, but I won't let it ruin it for the rest.

As a side note. I'll also be releasing some B5 ships ;) (but don't ask when, and only here on scifi-meshes :P) At least then you have to be registered user.

aiden ford asked me what are the overall levels of completion on the meshes...

Bad news... Only few reached 50%...

Aurora :: 24%
Destiny :: 42%
303 :: 60% (re-release v1.5)
304 :: 40% (re-release v1.5)
303-Bridge :: 100% (v1 - release soon)
f302 :: 70%
Hatak :: 50% (re-release v1.5)
death glider :: 100% (thanks to Ramiel :) )
teltak :: 100% (v1 - release soon)
alkesh :: 40%
ORI :: 40%
ORI fighter :: 0%
Wraith Dart :: 0%
Wraith Destroyer :: 0%
Wraith Carier :: 0%
Wraith Transport :: 0%
Asguard O'nell :: 0%
Asguard Science ship :: 0%
Asguard orginal :: 0%
???

If I missed any tell me ;)


But again.. release... soon means ... when i get time to prep them for release :P

Please have them in just .3ds otherwise I wont be able to open them

[specs2]

just wondering, how you calculate the percentages for the progress? i can't really tell, how far I am on any of my ships.
btw. can I see some close ups on the aurora? that part behind the bridge is interesting to mee and the part at the head. I haven't managed to get those right in my first attempt, because they weren't visible at that time. might get some idea from your shots, if you don't mind.

[SADDAMINSANE]

Hey guys I am wanting to do some ships of my own and I would like to know what would be the best affordable 3d software to get. Would very much like to know what you all reckon I should get preferably for less then $200 US.



Bow Before Your God:devil:

[Grzesiek]

Wrong forum to post... But check blender. Legal, free, fast, overall good, all the work you see here is done in blender.

Any further discussion, please post in a seperate forum.

As for the percentage.

i'm not the best in texturing so i give 30-40% of total progress to texturing. Rest is a general guess based on how much more work I'd like to do on a given mesh.

[Cerberus]

You're doing this in blender? wow!

I thought (as I have them) i'd post these two 304 pics as a helpful reference to any and all who may need them.

[Grzesiek]

Nice shots.. :) will help. even with my destiny :)

[Dr Lee]

That first one i recognise but which episode was the second image from?