Omiqron, CG Movie Project

[The_Caveman]

http://caveman-digital.com/tbg_banner3.jpg
Good to see SciFi meshes back online :)

Well this would be a good way to start the whole thread all over again :)

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Introduction :

The Omiqron project is a project I've been working on for 2 years already and recently decided to turn into a collaboration project. We are a team of 30 people at the moment doing our best to realise something worthy to watch.

About the project :

We're trying to realise a full-length movie (~1h30) everything done in CG.
The story is set in a huge metropolis where we find a "huge lab". After a war of several years between vampires and humans who tried to live together calm is coming back to the city of Omiqron but with the lab being build some weird things started to happen. The destiny of the humans is in the hands of the vampires, and that of the vampires in the hands of humans. Will they manage?

Thread and website :

the Scifi-Meshes thread : Project
The "Official" Website : Website (omiqron.caveman-digital.com)

We laso recently decided to open up the forums a bit more to the public. We're getting more and more known with everything hiding behind movie production and its great fun to learn all this. So we decided to create a public part on the forums where we and the visitors can share experiences, tutorials, information, and most of all the passion for movies and movie making
So just drop by at : omiQron [Restless Eternity] (http://forum.caveman-digital.com) and check out the Movie-Making section and if you like it feel free to register aswell (isn't much yet but we're working on it )


Enough talk lets move on to the pics ;)
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[The_Caveman]

Some more pictures ;) and one of the characters in a turntable :

Swat Leader (Quicktime 9Mb) (http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/swatleaderwip11.mov)

greets
Jozef

[lennier1]

Glad you´re back. I´m really looking forward to the future updates. One of the most impressive independent productions I´ve seen in a long time.

[aszazeroth]

-nice- cityscapes ! and very impressive project

[Pale Rider]

i just thought about the project^^
i like the concept-art and the cg-work!:)
but i like the office/lab-cams etc best(nice HDRL ;))!:D

[Berticus]

Well, I'm glad to see everything underway without me... If you waited around you'd be waiting forever. School and all.

I hope the bit of writing I did has come in handy.
-albert

[The_Caveman]

Glad you´re back. I´m really looking forward to the future updates. One of the most impressive independent productions I´ve seen in a long time.


wow so much friendly words thanks a lot hehe :D I'm like crawling back up my chair after having fallen of it :) really really appreciate them lennier1,aszazeroth, Pale Rider

@Berticus don't worry we still got you a spot on the project just let me know when you'll be having some free time again ;)

here is some new one because of the friendly messages it just got in so it is still hot. It will be the troop transport :) still WIP but looks exactly like the concept

greets and thanks once more

[farcry]

This is looking awsome! i wish you and your team the best of luck with this project, although by the look of this work i dont think youl need it :shiner:

[USS Mariner]

The only thing I can criticise is that the Swat Leader's ass is a bit too flat, or too sway back.

;)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks farcry :) we'll be needing the luck :)

thanks uss mariner aswell. I transmitted the crits to the character modeller :)

Thanks for the stars aswell :) don't know if we deserve them yet though.
More updates pretty soon, in the mean while a small preview of the new website : Layout (http://3d-caveman.com/English/Omiqron_Layout_sliced.php)

[The_Caveman]

Update time :)

our swat leader : (really worth the look ;) )

(9Mb .mov file)
http://www.chezlacrevette.com/swat/swatleaderwip12.mov

the regular swat guy (going to kill those poor guys :p)
and the vampire rebel that is going to kill them (one of the many)

[The_Caveman]

Some more updates (I didn't attach all the files would be to much to fit in I hope this isnt a problem I reduced file sizes and all to keep it easy surfing)

here goes with a small update

the leader http://www.chezlacrevette.com/swat/swatleaderwip12.mov
this character has entered texturing stage

we're working on a package aswell to allow us o create complexe road layouts easily here are some segments

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/anrn/8c4aeb6e.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/anrn/135e1e81.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/anrn/01576aec.jpg
textures are still work in progress

the swat crawler not far from being finished

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8928/basemesh71detailes4qf.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7422/basemesh7detailes9hv.jpg

[The_Caveman]

and here goes with another update

the swat leader. kinda finished modelling this one except if you people see some real problems with the organic layout of the character :)
so crits/Comments would be more then welcome

greets
jozef

[The_Caveman]

here goes with some very small updates of concept I recieved yesterday thought I should post them before making an even bigger update :)




and this is some more concept for weapons :) the crossbow is for one of the main characters

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/Crossbow_1_800.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/sword_2___noble_horseman.jpg

this is the concept used for the Swat leader :

[strangeman]

hmmmm nice and interesting... good work !!!

[The_Caveman]

thanks strangeman glad you like it :)

here goes with some more updates (you'll probably say hum they go from futuristic to medieval?? euhm well yes. We started working on the "film" itself aswell next to the trailer and in this film we plan on doing a rather big medieval battle explaining some positions of the different vampire clans we have etc. so that is why the medieval art :) )

(I know it isnt really 3D either so maybe if needed a moderator could move it to the animation or some other place where it belongs because it is going into a lot of directions at the same time)

here are some new drawings made by: eljko Matuško aka Sedeslav

see attachment

and to stay close to the futur:
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/swat_attack_.jpg

[Piuro]

These are all really nice. The story itself seems a bit cliche, but put some interesting twists and some good fights and I'd easily watch the whole thing.

On a different note, can we get a tutorial on the cityscape? I mean, not the really greebled one, the close up view.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Piuro for the comments. We're trying to avoid to much of a cliché and that is why we'll probably be chaning the script over and over again with the different inputs from the team :) I hope we'll be able to bring up something worth to look and normally we should have some nice battles :)

for the tutorial we can manage that I think. but not sure what exactly you would like to know and is it the blueish first image you're talking about or the more detailed image? let me know and I'll write one :)

thanks for the comments
greets

[Berticus]

A fabulous work so far.

-albert

[Piuro]

The second one, the close up. I just think the "Vampires" and "Fate of Eachother" things have been done far too often.

Hmmm... looking for a proofreader?

[Grzesiek]

Very very nice work. And really nice to see some movies being shown here.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Berticus

Thanks Grzesiek aswell

true true Piuro. Both have been done alot but then again it is kinda impossible to do something original because we're always inspired by something (I think :) ) but the way I would like to show vampires in this movie is slightly different from what you see in a lot of vampire movies (I hope again). I'd love to give them some sort of soul, human aspect (which they should have lost) not make them appear like the "eternal bad guys" but represent the humans as the bad ones (well at least that is what I'm trying and it isnt a 100% original but ohwell we're just trying to have some fun and with posts like yours and everybody else on these forums it makes it even more fun a real motivation :D )

you mean this one : http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=835&d=1147961667 right?

[Piuro]

That would be the one!

[The_Caveman]

Ok Piuro I'll see what I can do :) you want some specific information or all the information ;) :p

in the meantime here is the finalized highrez part for the trailer

modelled by James Astley (http://www.smallwhitelies.com/james/home.htm)

[The_Caveman]

On a different note, can we get a tutorial on the cityscape? I mean, not the really greebled one, the close up view.

just to let you know that we're working on it. We're even doing a complete from concept -> 3D (going through the different stages) for you :). If you would like anything more specific let me know if not we should have it pretty soon :)

greets

[lennier1]

Nice progress.
Can´t help it but the "snout" of that SWAT crawler always looks like it was inspired by an ant eater.

[disconnected]

hey piuro - i modelled the close ups of the street if youre interested, drop me an email or something :) glad you like it though, youre the first person to ask after my work hehe thanks a lot :)

cos jozef is lazy (hehe) hes not updated the link to my site... ive just moved it.

http://www.james.caveman-digital.com

its a little slow loading in places, im still making it... :)

[farcry]

Wow, i remember the old thread. I really love this project, keep up the awsome work guys :D

[The_Caveman]

Can´t help it but the "snout" of that SWAT crawler always looks like it was inspired by an ant eater.

LOOOL yup you are right that is why we changed the concept of this one :)
but I just saw I didnt post it up here


hope this one looks better :)

thanks for the comments lennier1 and Farcry aswell :) appreciate them

[The_Caveman]

Well it is me again showing some updates :) hope you like these ones (comments/crits would be great :) It isn't really 3D yet and this thread is full with just drawings hope that that is ok with the mods :) )

still made by Sedeslav :) but more for the modern part this time

this is one of the main characters :

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/9237ca95-Jake_1_jpg.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/f8e7dcf0-Jake2_jpg.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/4874f59d-Jake3_jpg.jpg

and a part of the vampires the modern ones aswell and a bit more cruel then the other ones ;)

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/c092ef65-vampiresses_1_jp.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/592730e9-vampiress2_jpg.jpg

the labcrew ( a part of it :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/lab_crew.jpg

and we got a start on the clanleaders aswell here are the first three :)
and finally something architectural for in the modern part of the city :)

(see attachement)

Thanks for viewing :)
feel free to give feedback ;)

greets

[The_Caveman]

Well we're still alive. things are moving quite good. 3D Models start popping up a bit everywhere on the forums so I'm happy

the drawing still goes good aswell.



We had a first meeting with the voice actors for the trailer/teaser and will be recording some samples in the following week(s)

here are some updates

first of all the new train/transport concept made by Pmaz our newest concept artist (guy has some good skills )

in the sketches made by sedeslav we have this week :flippy:
sketches made by sedeslav :

the main character Jake ( male main character) and his friend who is going to die ( :evil: )
Omiqron Lab and jakes vehicule and some vampire rebels for in the trailer
and last but not least at all : the main character herself: Abigail
(this all in the attachement below :) )

now time for some 3D :P

and once again last but not least :

the industrial area modelled by James (http://james.-caveman-digital.com)

even higher rez: available here : http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/indsheet1.jpg (have a look at it it is really amazing in detailing )

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/indsheet1small.jpg

thanks for viewing, comments and crits very appreciated as always :D

[The_Caveman]

a quick note to save this thread from the dark and scary abysses of scifi meshes.

this project is still alive and kicking. We had some problems with people leaving but all of that is resolved and the concepts that we lost has been remade.
We started on the 3d parts and models start popping up
animation also has been started so I should have a real update pretty soon

in the meanwhile help me keep this thread out of the darkness :P

thanks for watching
greets

[Mex]

I really hope you get that movie finished!

Question: do you have a cityplan?

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Mex, I really hope so aswell :)

for the city, when I started modelling there wasn't really any, now we made a heightmap on which I'm supposed to draw the city layout but it takes quite sometime lol. so right now it is still the map I made before the 3d model but this will probably change :)

thanks for your comments

[Grzesiek]

Nice to see this project didnt join the death pile.

Very nice progress. Can't wait for more. And live the concept art. As for project restructuring.. yeah, the never ending story :) Happy you survived it.

[Lord Erisu]

wow, some fantastic stuff in this thread. Especially most of those sketches. Inspiring too.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Grzesiek for passing by. Yup I real pain people joining and leaving just like that :(. But we got a pretty good coreteam with fully dedicated people who have been working there ass of for the last 6 months (damn 6 months already lol)

Thanks Lord Erisu glad you like the work.

Posts like these just motivate me more to show something insane (I hope :D)

thanks again
cheers

[The_Caveman]

it was about time I posted some updates in here :)

welcome to the omiQron car factory :p.

first model made by Steve Cowling, second one made by diddy and the last two made by myself and textured aswell during the last two days.
They probably still need some tweaking :

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/omiqron_transport16.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Maybach03.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/4x4%202.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/volvo%201.jpg

and last but definitly not least one of the characters coming to life :
made by Sylvain
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/private/2(2).jpg

[Mex]

Wow, that character looks really good...really, really,really good!
the cars are good, too^^. but in my eyes the character is better :)

get that movie finished, i want to see it :D (okay looks like it would take some time..)

[Lee80]

what he said....:D

[Lord Erisu]

Awesome stuff, tho personally, I'm not too sure on the cars tho. Also, I see a typo on the character picture. The word "porject", should be "project". At least, I assume it is a typo.

[The_Caveman]

Lool thanks Mex and Lord Ravensburg. Post like just makes me want to have more time to work on it (damn job :p)

thanks Lord Erisu aswell :). True about the cars. I think (not sure will have to test it) the biggest problem is the light setup. we passed from the scanline renderer to mental ray because of several reasons, the carpaint material was one of those but well now we have to find the right light setup and rework everything but I felt like showing some progress though :). If you think the problem might be somewhere else feel free to let me know :) always open for comments and crits :D. (ah and yes there is a typo in there :? )
thanks again everybody for leaving a message and for those who just pass by and have a quick glimps in here aswell :)
greets

[The_Caveman]

Well thought I'd post this one aswell. been reworking the lightning a lot.

comments/crits appreciated on how to improve :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/omiqron_transport17.jpg

[Lord Erisu]

Ok, personally, I'm still not too keen on it:). The headlights, I like even less. But that is just a texture issue. I'd have to look at my mums car to be sure, but I think the glass coverings got some sort of pattern on it. Or something. But again, I'd have to look at my mothers car. But atm, they don't look v.glassy to me. Sorry, half-asleep.

Is it a 4x4 version of the Mini??

[Grzesiek]

one thing that bugs me is the reflection. It looks like the windows haven't been manufactured correctly. to many distortions. Same thing for the entire car. Reducing the noise on the reflection will help a lot.

Intresting desing of the headlights. But yeah, kind of wierd. sepecialy the outer edges of the bottom light section. They seem to distort the shape of the front too much.

Beyond that :) NICE.

[Zhor2395]

more?

[The_Caveman]

Thanks for the replys everybody.

I changed the headlight texturing (which reveals what is behind those lights :) )
I changed the window material aswell and I dropped HDRI and went for a true lightsetup with an environnement map which creates the reflections :).

The design of the vehicule has been inspired by the GMC Graphite and by the audi Q7 but it is a new design (inspired by others of course :) )

I added a little render of what is inside aswell it isnt to high poly but Ihad some fun creating some sort of leather texture :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/omiqron_transport10.jpg

the other render is in the attachement because of the size (250kb not that much but you never know :) )

thanks for viewing, if there is something to crit or comment feel free to do so :)

greets

ps: don't look to much the stearing wheel I misplaced it by accident :s

[Berticus]

The front window is set in really far. I personally would make it flush with the frame that holds it.

Nice work!
-albert

[Lord Erisu]

Its got an NFS look to it. Nice and shiney... but too short for my personal taste. I still think the front looks like the front of a mini.

But its looking much better with those headlights dude.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Berticus and thanks Lord Erisu aswell :). I looked up the mini and well now I see it you're kinda right hehe.

well here is something completly different then the cars (still working on the four of them :) ) but this picture has been in the making for almost 3 months

the main artists on this were/are (because some more work is left on it :) ) :

Jaison Duell Wilson (Texturing)
James Astley (3D Modeller)
Ron Foskett (3D Modeller)
James Azzopardi (3D Modeller)
Jozef van Eenbergen (3D Modeller, Project Leader).

It represents one of the main street we'll be using for a first animation sequence for the actual project. The street is rather abandonned and in a post-war state
A lot of hard work has been put into this by all of those people and I would like to thank them a lot for there dedication to the project.

Thank you for watching

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/vfx01/city-teaser-v2.jpg

[Lee80]

nice work...very impressive.:thumb:

[Mex]

what he said...;)

[Berticus]

So... Um, where'd you take that picture at? (MAn, that is one convincing street you have there. VERY well done.)

-albert

[Aescapulius]

The windows. No reflection of the buildings, makes it look... Wrong... Other than that, I was convinced you'd taken a photo of a street!

[The_Caveman]

Thanks everybody for the great comments :D

here goes with some more ;)

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip7.jpg

no need to introduce him here I think ;)

thanks for viewing/comments/crits :D

[Berticus]

Bulk up his thighs and shins... It looks like... Chicken legs. Aside from that: you got some great talent working with you, and your talents are pretty good too!

Keep up the good work!
-albert

[Lord Erisu]

I love the city scene. Top left corner gives me the feeling of a real-life model. And what Aescapulius said about the windows too.

[Nutsy]

fantastic work here :D

[Lacrevette]

Hi all, And thank you for your comments ;)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks for the comments everybody much appreciated we're back in the lab working hard on more updates :D

ah yes let me introduce you Lacrevette aka Sylvain. The one who is modelling the character shown above :)

[Lee80]

nice work guys..:)

[Lacrevette]

Hi some minor updates :

I worked on the eyes a little bit :)

here a turn around, just to see how the maps are working. I'm pretty happy by the backscatter effect on the ears. It's the first time I try it :)

www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampire5.mov


Here some shots ( if you cannot watch the .mov ) :

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip8.jpg

I hope you like :)

[Aescapulius]

Wow. I'm just imagining him having Victor's voice - You know, from Underworld? That oily nasal growl. He looks patently vicious.

[The_Caveman]

Ah underworld :D lovely movie. pitty that in the second one they had to put this love scene between the two. Made it a bit to Titanic looking lol but great movie.

for the voice of this character we'll be going for a dark, "rock" kinda voice. something that when you hear it on the phone your skin goes all wicked :twisted:.
Thanks for your reply Ascapulius much appreciated :)

I hope to have some more updates later on today

[Lacrevette]

Hello I worked a little on the clothes : I have to fix the link between the arm and the torso, make a diffuse texture, there is just one bump map there and a quick texture to see how it looks with.

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/cloth1.jpg

[Pale Rider]

:eek!:STOP TEASING US!!!!! :p
i want to see your movie so badly! :D

[Lacrevette]

More shoots :)
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip9.jpg

[Lord Erisu]

Thats some lovely work on the boots there m8. Man, I wish I could do organic models.

[The_Caveman]

here is some new work done by Gahn one of the public transport vehicules: a bus

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipPersp6.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipPersp7.jpg

[Lee80]

very nice work guys...

[Aescapulius]

I'm just imagining T-shirts with 'I heart Omiqron' popping up like mushrooms after rain, now.

[The_Caveman]

I'm just imagining T-shirts with 'I heart Omiqron' popping up like mushrooms after rain, now.

Haha thanks for the reply's. you know the worst part? we even thought about making some t-shirts with concept, 3d etc on it for the project to get some funding because rendering a movie on two dual core computers well it kinda takes some time loool :D

[Lacrevette]

The coat is not unwarped, I just put a material to see how does it look.

Minor update, I'll work on the coat, with specular map, bump map, and diffuse map verry soon.

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip10.jpg

[Lord Erisu]

Lookin' great. What ya gonna be puttin' on the medallion??

[Aescapulius]

Ahh, Supernatural Bling.

[Lacrevette]

Hello all, some updates. I'm making the girdle, more screen shot verry soon about it.
Some Unwarped part have been bumped and diffused :)

Lord Erisu The medaillon will be sculpted really at the end ;)

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip11.jpg

[The_Caveman]

just a small message to keep the thread alive and let u know that this project is still running :). Quite some things are happening behind the scenes. We started some simple animation shots, characters are coming along nicely and the third scene for the trailer (of a total of four scenes) has entered into "production". that was the last scene that hadn't been worked on yet :). We should post some updates soon. thanks for checking, comments, crits etc. ;)

the project title has changed aswell from omiQron - The Black Goddess to omiQron - Restless Eternity :) so we should be asking the thread title to be changed I think hehe

cheers
jozef

here is a small update on one of the characters though

[Lord Erisu]

Personally. I prefer black to brown :D.

I'd personally love to get my hands on a cloak thingie like what the Grim Reaper got. Or the Sith use... heh. Plus a pair of horns;).

[The_Caveman]

with the first vampire character getting close to completion I started working on his face: rig, skin and lipsync. so here is a first try (still soem things to tweak for exemple the upper teeth row going through lips) of a maaaad vampire hehe :)

(teeth and tongue arent textured yet)
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/wicked_insanity.mov

and here are some compositions Sylvain (Lacrevette) did

cheers
jozef

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip17.jpg
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip17nb.jpg

[lennier1]

Impressive. The skin and the coat still don´t feel right (the leather looks more like polished wood) but the shirt is spot-on.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks lennier1, appreciate the comments :)

more animation is on its way. I'm doing some wiring etc I finished the morph targets today and came up with a total of 10 expression morphs and 10 phonetics which should do the trick to get him talking :) (I hope) so now putting everything together in a interface to mix jaw, tongue mouth en face mouvements together in one small bundle :)

here is a small test of some lipsync (far from perfect :) ) I've been trying out with my voice (the guy says "Hail" for all the metal fans out here :p more to come :) )

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/hail.mov

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

been playing some more :) thought he should be able to breath hehe :)

I finished wiring the control panel and well should start animating as soon as possible :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/alive.mov

cheers

[Grzesiek]

As stated, skin needs some tweaking.. Maybe add some Sub Surface Scattering?

Beyond that impressive. Very detailed.. Can't wait form more.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Grzesiek. There is some sub surface scattering going on and some tweaking of the textures aswell :). I should have some more animation and rendering and such done during the couple of coming days :)

sorry for the delays everytime and thanks to those checking up and posting :D
cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

here is some more:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/final2.mov

he is now doing all the expressions he can do (without mixing them :) ) there is a problem with the coat that I'll have to fix

cheers
jozef

[cirus5555]

love it he has good screen presents nice test take it the jackets wont be conected to his jaw later on, joking seriously good work if you need a hand with anything give us a shout.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Cirus5555. I'm reworking the jacket at the moment with a new rig and skinning and everything that goes withit :). Takes some more time then expected and then have to look forward to the 6 hours of rendering :?

anyway we could still use some help so if you feel like giving a hand don't hesitate and let me know what you would like to do

cheers,
jozef

[cirus5555]

just tell me what you need and ill make it vehecals crafts rooms charicors or ever dirty vampire droid give us a bell here are a couple of me threads
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/7070-steel-fox-designer-build.html
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/challenge-wips/7175-sensei-challenge-003-hydra-cycle.html
:)

[The_Caveman]

Some impressive work you got there and I would be more then happy to have you working on this one :D. Right now we could use some more vehicules to cruise through the city. You can come up with your own concept or I can put somebody on the job aswell to design one.
A bit futuristic of course but not to much would be the only guideline :) the rest would be a freecard :)

if you could subscribe here aswell : omiQron - Restless Eternity [Movie Project] :: Index (http://forum.caveman-digital.com) :)

cheers
jozef

[Aescapulius]

The teeth... Not to make your job worse, but they should be enamelous. Kind of shiny and partially pearlescent. Just a thought...

Oh, and...

When I was doing animation for my school assignment - a Cortana simulation - I watched how my mouth moved in a mirror to get the right movement.

Because my God, this thing rocks now. A little tweaking, as you say...

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Aescapulius :) glad you like it. very true for the teeth (I forgot to mention that at the time of animating they weren't textured yet hehe my mistake). I'll keep on tweaking it :D

but to stay in the deadline I had to slow down a bit on the facial animation and model a bit so this is the work done during this weekend :) (wheels modelled by Gahn)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Audi%20A814.jpg

[The_Caveman]

here goes with another one the jaguar S :)

when searching for the next car I stumbled upon the site of dosch design they have some really nice collection of recent vehicules in the same style I was going for so I might pick some more from their list to model. I'll see :)
anyway here is the update:

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Jaguar_02.jpg

[JoeRalat]

Love all the work.. The sketches are versy sweet. The best I have seen here.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks a lot JoeRalat that's a very big compliment compared to the work that is done here on the forums :D thanks a lot.

we have been quite for a while (6 days :p) but here is an update. The normal/regular swat team will look like this :

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/swatmemberwip3(1).jpg

and a little turnaround (this version is a more developped one already so be sure to check it aswell :) )
http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/test.mov

we should have some more coming up the coming days :)

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

Time to show a small update in between the moving of scifi-meshes :D

first of all for the characters done by Sylvain (aka Lacrevette)
(there are more pictures but it would make the thread inbrowsable)

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/swatmemberwip5a.jpg
http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/swatmemberwip6b.jpg

next to that we have been working on some transport.
the bus done by gahn (entered into texturing :) )
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipText1.jpg
and a mercedes A class I did (again without wheels hate doing those)
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Mercedes_A_09.jpg

a pen prop modelled by thebest (I like it a lot actually simple but effective :) )
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2793/penvi9.jpg

and last but not least :) 3Deffects handed over the files for the appartement so right now I'm turning it all into a big mess

so this is what I came up with with adding in the detail (do I love the Ikea catalog)
Computer screen, laptop, mouse, mousepad, scanner and start of the printer done by 3deffects, pencil and mug(isnt in the scene yet) by ronson2k dustbin by gahn.
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/office14.jpg

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

here are some more :)

(comments/crits appreciated ;) )

this is a reporter

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/journalist.jpg

and a couple of close-ups of the swats

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/swatmemberwip5d.jpg
http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/swatmemberwip5c.jpg
http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/swatmemberwip6.jpg

cheers
jozef

[Mex]

Everything looks so professional....great work! really...

[farcry]

Wow, those pics blew me away!

Sorry about not being in contact about the ACT, my new job has been killing me big time. If you need the mesh soon or anything i can send it and you can do what you want with it :)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Mex that is a very very big compliment there thanks alot :D

Thanks Farcry I was kinda doubtin you would have been busy with work which is normal :D if you don't mind sending the file would be great and I'll keep you posted afterwards what has been changed and if you think it would need more changing and if you have some time let me know for the "Wizkid" ;)

cheers and thanks again for those comments (if somebody else feels like leaving a comment or crit dont hesitate ;) )

Jozef

[cirus5555]

think your doing an amazing job on this project love seeing it progress

[slimdim]

Wow this is realy amazing, looking forward to seeing more animation.
Definatly one I'll be keeping my eye on.
One thing, I'd guse you probably have it sorted by now as it was post a while back, but in the latist animation of the vampire dude (or at least the moust recent posted here) his coat collar deforms when the jaw moves.
Just thaught I'd mention it and keep up the good work!

[Tveakk]

:eek: :o

jawdropping work, you guys have a good imagination, and some crazy skills of art. I love the work you've done here.

lol keep it up, if u worked on city images, can u please post some.

[scifieric]

Wow, This is very impressive!

[The_Caveman]

wow!! hehe thanks a lot for all those great comments keeps us all going here :D

@Slimdim: Yup we sorted it (but I didnt rerender anything we're trying to make him talk for the first scene we hope to finish during this month) we reskinned the coat instead of using skinwrap :) its working better know. thanks for pointing it out though :)

@Tveakk: Must be your lucky day ;) I recieved a part of the industrial area and importing it to max at the moment should have some renders of it today or tomorrow and I'll post them here. I'll post some older images aswell :)

Thanks again for all those comments greatly appreciated and keep those comments and of course crits coming :D

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

The industrial area is taking a bit more time then expected so I wont have a render before tomorrow or tuesday sorry for that but I while have another building going with that update and in the meanwhile here is some more work done during the weekend.

the last one is a carpet (still needs a lot of tweaking especially for the white line going through it) as for the other renders the interior doesnt have a light setup yet so its all still kinda dark)

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/office15.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/office17.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/tapis01.jpg

[Shadowblade]

only thing i see really wrong, its the textuyre of the ear needs to be a bit redder than normal skin.

[liljon]

This is definitaly one of the best animation projects I have ever seen. I am really liking the story as well. Is this one of those evil corporation movies with the hundreds of enemy soldiers? Kudos man kudos. Also, when I saw the first lip syncing video, I had my brothers surround sound on and at about half volume (about as loud as a fire alarm) and it scared the hell out of me. CRAZY. I cant wait to see some scenes from the movie *drools*.

[Tveakk]

hehehhehe, feels like im back in office, thanx for the render, it looks officy :D:D

i dont think there are any crits here.. keep it up. and is there gonna be a story to this, or u already posted it somwhere?

:thumb: :thumb: two thumbs up!!!

[Auralis]

Impressive work.

Regarding the final2.mov The standup collar is imho way to strongly effected by the facial movements. It looks like the deformation of the face extends to the collar as well.

[Ramiel]

The project looks really good (modeling and texturing and I hope for you also animation;) )
Five stars for me:)
If I could suggest a quite simple but effective lighting for the office (without hijacking your thread), you could use simple spot lights with soft shadows, and a bright yellow-ish light from the outside (plus global illumination if it will fit with your idea).
Something like this (if you want to remove the image, just let me know;) )...
http://www.jagthesite.com/new/images/3D-pag1/AT_Office_web.jpg

[The_Caveman]

some many posts hehe can hardly keep up thanks everybody :D

Thanks Shadowblade, yup you're right we're trying to play a bit more with subsurface scattering :)

looool liljon. That voice from the lipsync is mine lol never knew I could scare the hell out of people thats good to know :p

Thanks Tveakk, yup there is a story I didnt post it but I'll make a small resume of it and post it during the week (I hope just like the industrial area :oops:)

Thanks Auralis, For the coat what I did was using "skin morph" but I should have skinned it to make it look correct :) thats what we're doing now.

Thanks Ramiel for that tip I'll try that one out and post a render :) dont worry for the pic isnt a problem at all especially because it gives a good idea of what you were saying :)

well I'm off now have to get my drivers licence so everybody here that lives in France stay in hehe Caveman taking the wheels :p

cheers
jozef

[Lord Erisu]

Love the work on that office complex thingie. nice going. And the pic Ramiel posted is fantastic too:).

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Lord Erisu :)

here is the industrial area I talked about. Still needs some cleaning hehe :). Modelled by James Astley (http://james.caveman-digital.com) in Sketchup and rendered in 3ds max
but thought I should post it anyway

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/industrial%20area01.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/industrial%20area02.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/industrial%20area03.jpg

[Forcemaster2000]

Wow! Some fantastic modeling in here, wish I'd looked in sooner! Great work.

[Aresius]

I like what I see... I long for the movie...

[Ramiel]

I'm glad that you like my simple suggestion:)
I'm also happy, because I'm not the only one here without a driver's license:lol:

[Lord Erisu]

I've got a drivers license... but I can't drive a car... :D I'm a biker. :D

Can't wait to see that industrial area cleaned up m8.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks to everybody for the replies really appreciate them and keeps us going here :D (so keep them coming :p ;) ) really great to wake up and see all those comments :)

so I've been trying to do the lightsetup Ramiel proposed so here are two renders:

(there is one direct light with a bit of yellow color (could be a bit more I think) and 8 spotlights to light the whole room in the appartement

so the first one is just with final gather :
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/office18.jpg

the second one has GI included:
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/office19.jpg

everything rendered with mental ray :). I'm rather happy with the result but it could probably use some improvement so feel free to crit away...
Another question the scene is getting bigger and bigger now I know there is a possible to render in layers (render foreground then background objects) but I've been looking for a tuto on the how-to but didnt find anything so if somebody knows the "how-to" would be great to hear your ideas because well to make that carpet look nice it needs a small 100.000 hairs which kinda kills my computer with the rest of the objects in it :).

thanks for the help
cheers
jozef

[farcry]

Looking really AWSOME there. This has got to be my favourite thread here at SFM, theres such a broad range of 3d things.

Also, about the ACT, i have some free time now and can modify the mesh myself to save you guys time :) (and to work on my modeling skills). If you fire off a PM or something with what needs to be done i can get on it :D

[Ramiel]

It's really good, but (even if this will kill your PC:shiner: ) I will turn on the shadows of the spotlights (if they aren't on yet, because the desk looks like it's a little bit "floating"... If you know what I mean...)
Take care of this project, because it could be really interesting...;)

[Tveakk]

second render looks very refereshing, it seems to be noon, or is that how i see it :D
looks very nice, but somethig is missing, cannot get my finger on it.
however, really nice render.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks FarCry, I've send you an email and don't hesitate on posting that great ACT in this thread aswell it really deserves credits :D and it helps us out a looot :)

Thanks Ramiel, I had them turned on but I think the opacity of the shadow was a bit to low but because it takes me an hour to render and I can't even do full renders anymore I spent the weekend learning how to composite things together lool :p but you are absolutly right about the desk floating. I should have a new render pretty soon and hope to have ur ideas on it because even if we take care of the project without the rights crits we ain't going far :)

Thanks Tveakk. Yup its noon (well for now well two days ago it still was lol then I played with the light color and all hehe right now it could be sunrise or sunset)
Thanks for the comment :)

We're preparing some updates. Some new things that don't have anything to do with the Trailer but more with the series (in concept work) and some new characters and all. hope to post all of it during the comming days together with the industrial area.

why days don't have 48hours? would come in handy from time to time.... eventhough I have a drivers licence now still aint got enough time to do the things I always wanted

[The_Caveman]

A very small update but thought I'd show this one already :)

was posted this morning on the team forum and I was really surprised on how it turned out so I thought I'd post it up here.

Its part of the bus (posted a couple of pages back) but this time it has some dirt on it ;)

more to come
cheers
jozef

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipText6.jpg

[backstept]

that's just insane . . .
y'all are doing an awesome job :thumb:


Welcome to the Header :D

[Wolf Star]

Wow! Amazing stuff!

[DarthMaya]

WOWOWOWOW fantastic job on everything!

Also congratulations on the header! :D

[Tovette]

Damn. This is seriously some badass work. I love the characters and, well, everything! Looking forward to more!

[Nadman]

very nice dirt effect, how did you do it? :)

[The_Caveman]

WOW hehe I wasn't expecting this one. a scifi-meshes header Thank you very very much. Very much appreciated by the team and myself of course hehe :D

really incredible. We'll do our bests to not let you down and propose something worth watching :D.

Thanks again and thanks for the comments. I should get back to work now have at least some sort of update today to celebrate this front page ;)

cheers
jozef

[Diabetic1]

Honestly some of the best work I've seen from a non-commercial project. If not the best, its very farking close!

Keep it up people, simply stunnin'.

[Lacrevette]

Hello guys !
Thanx a lot for the feedbacks and front page !

here where i am with a new character ( WIP ), he should be a reporter, But to train myself I developed his anatomy :)

Here a turn around ( Mov ) : http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/journalist1.mov

Some shots :

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/1.jpg
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/2.jpg
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/3.jpg
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/4.jpg

And Have a nice day,

Sylvain.

[DarthMaya]

Very nice model, keep up the fantastic work!

-edit o btw you forgot his feet.....:p

[Bravus]

great model, the arms seem a little bit too short though

[farcry]

Congrats on the header :)

Lacrevette, thats looking great. I can't model people to save my life, looking at your work really inspires me to keep trying.

Sorry for the delay Caveman, but i have finally started modifying the ACT to your specs in the email, ill keep you updated :shiner:

[Lacrevette]

thx for your words farcry ;)

[limdaepl]

-edit o btw you forgot his feet.....:p

not only :lol:

:D Nice model. Looks more like an action hero than a reporter to me though.

[Starship]

Looking great but, aren't the torso and the arms a bit short ? Maybe the hands are a bit bigger than necessary too. ;)

[Martocticvs]

Rather impressive work on this project so far - nice!

[scifieric]

Outstanding reporter and congratulations on the header!

I think the head is a little too large in proportion to his body, but then again, this looks wonderful!

[Lacrevette]

updates coming

[Tveakk]

o man, this is looking awesome, man u making me patienless for the whole project to be done :P :(

keep it up...:thumb:

[The_Caveman]

Thanks everybod who posted you guys cant see it but it has given an enormous boost to the project again and the train is running at full speed :D

we're aiming for a little teaser around christmas of like a minute (if we can keep up with the rendering lol because the frames take us forever to render lol so if anybody got a renderfarm or two? maybe three? ;) )

anyways thanks a lot for all those comments very very much appreciated :)

@Nadman: we're writing a small tuto on how we did the texture. the texture is almost finished as you can see in the update we added some scratches etc. hope to have it soon and I'll post it in here :)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipText8.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipText9.jpg

as said I've been working on the appartement abit more. took 3deffects and the_best their props tweaked them around a little to add in some detail and changed the layout of the kitchen added in some extra props oh well needs detail now :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/kitchen01.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/kitchen02_low.jpg

[The_Caveman]

hey again,

another update on the journalist this time :), done by Lacrevette:

(I like it he has a character feeling to it)

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/6.jpg

the little tutorial on the bus is coming :) its nearly finished for those interested

feel free to comment/crit

cheers
jozef

[Mex]

i wont meet that guy allone at night! nice job!

[Lacrevette]

here a little turn around : http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/journalist1.mov

MeX > hehe :) he's nice my guy ^^ I just talked with him =)

[Ramiel]

Nice kitchen:)

[The_Caveman]

I can't remember posting the cleaned version of the industrial area :)

so here goes with some views :).
cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/private/industrial%20area06.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/private/industrial%20area07.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/private/industrial%20area08.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/private/industrial%20area09.jpg

[Mex]

aaaaaahhhhhh, thats so nice, that i have to shout^^

[Aresius]

wow...
it's wonderful... I like that city...

[The_Caveman]

hehe Thanks Mex and Aresius really appreciated :D
when we finish texturing I'll do a flythrough

here is another update: the clothes and hat are still procedural and will be reworked well like the rest of the textures hehe :)
still WIP

cheers

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/7.jpg

[Dallidas]

damn! thats awesome!

[DarthMaya]

Very good work, amazing quality. :D

[Road Warrior]

Damn!

[scifieric]

The journalist is starting to look alive! Great work.

[backstept]

that's just unreal . . .

it's really really hard to believe that this isn't a professional project . . .

top notch work :thumb:

[The_Caveman]

Thanks again for all those great comments :D really really appreciated I keep on saying that but its true hehe :D great to see that you really like what we're trying to achieve :)

so here goes with another update made by our master modeller ;) Lacrevette.

To of the characters for the trailer completly finished (we reworked the vampire at the top regarding textures :) )

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/private/lordvampire_reporter(1).jpg

ps: Hence our new Caveman Digital logo :D

[Ramiel]

Not bad at all:D
I like the color of the vampire's eyes;)

[Tovette]

this stuff rocks

[scifieric]

Great work on both characters but there is something about the journalist that looks like a real person in CG clothing! Amazing!

[JustinDixon]

real person in cg clothes? nah - everything looks cg. I'd suggest toning down the spec relfection on the skin, adding some SSS and SDS, working with normals maps and then possibly making a specular map for the face.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks everybody for your comments again :)

@D4327: True true but there is already a sss skin shader applied aswell as a bump map, most of the details on the face are modelled so no real need for normal maps I think and there is also a specular map for the face. I'll ask Sylvain to post some views of the maps we applied on the journalist (thinks there is a total of 6 or something) and let you have a look at it and see what you would suggest to make it look even better (I'm already very very happy because when starting out with this project never ever would I have dreamed of such quality but if it can get even better then I'm willing to listen :D). But of course we'll take this into consideration and keep on playing with the renders till we get it better :D

cheers
jozef

[Lacrevette]

Hello guys, here a little dynamic turn around test to see how it works like I want. I have to tweak the shape of the hat on the back etc.
I'm planning to use hair and fur to make his hair.
About 10 hours of rendering for 241 frames, about 3 minutes by frames.
I use mentalray and for sure sss skin shader ;)

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/journalist1.mov

[jmtm00]

sss on ears is a bit to glowy imo, but except that is a nice piece of work man :O

[Lacrevette]

yep you right ;) thx

[Drummer]

I was wondering about the characters and the modelling/rigging used. Is the head detached as a separate object? Its just that in some rendering i notice it looks attached and in others detached...
Do you animate the torso and neck separately from the head whilst the head is simply linked to the torso?:confused:

Great work:thumb:

[The_Caveman]

Thanks you very much Drummer :) (good to see that there are more drummers around here :D devoted to the fine art of slammin the skins ;) )

The head isnt attached to the torso. there is a torso underneath when we start modelling but is deleted afterwards to just keep the head with the neck the clothes and a part of the arms with the hands to avoid enormous polycounts. then everything is rigged onto the same skeleton of bones but as seperated objects. but the neck reacts in the same way as the clothes its all linked together and should react together. to be sure of this some parts of the clothes have a skinwrap applied to it aswell.

I'll try and post a small image of the setup if needed?
hope it explained a bit because mine in general are rather bad lol

cheers
jozef

[Drummer]

Thanks for the detailed response and yes I would really appreciate an image of the setup:thumb: ...a picture speaks a thousand words and all that...

[IRML]

Hello guys, here a little dynamic turn around test to see how it works like I want. I have to tweak the shape of the hat on the back etc.
I'm planning to use hair and fur to make his hair.
About 10 hours of rendering for 241 frames, about 3 minutes by frames.
I use mentalray and for sure sss skin shader ;)

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter/wip/journalist1.movwow I've only just seen the clip, this is excellent work, the SSS on the ears does seem to strong, but everything else seems excellent to me, the rest of the skin looks amazing, and your clothing shaders are really nice looking too, although the shadows on the coat do seem a little crisp, maybe that would look different with an area light

[PiperTheGreat]

hey! wonderful stuff happening here mate, those characters blew me away! i dunno if it's been stated, but what program are you using?

[Tovette]

That character spin was AWESOME. It looks great. I do agree that the SSS of the ears is a bit too much. I also noticed that when you see the character in profile the upper bridge of his nose has SSS and realistically there wouldn't be any there because of the bone on the skull. There should be a hint of some further down on the edge of the nose where the cartilage and flesh is though. Love the skin texture too. frick that was rad.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks everybody once more :D always a pleasure coming walking in here and discover the new posts greatly appreciated.

@Drummer: pictures are coming :D taking a bit longer then expected but there are some changes (see post further down :) )

Thanks IRML (I love it when a plan comes together ;) ) and Tovette :) we have been working on the SSS to reduce it and improve it images should come soon :)

thanks PiperTheGreat: the characters are modelled and textured with 3ds max :) the rest is mainly 3ds max aswell except for the architecture which has been done in SketchUp and then merged to 3ds max :)

Like I said a little above right now I'm kinda restructering the whole project. Get things rolling smoothly. Some changes in plans but this should only make the progress better hehe (I hope ;) ) should take to new year and then I hope to bring a bigger update with a bit more explanations on what is going on hehe :D

thanks again for all the posts
cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

here is a new small update. the reporter with some hair, and some small details we have put into this guy :)

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter_lordvampire/reporter.jpg
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/reporter_lordvampire/reporter2.jpg

btw the tutorial on the bus should be coming in one of these days :D

and now some more text hehe :D.
Like I said the post above we're undergoing some changes in the project :). nothing bad though but we needed some serious restructuring :).
So what is going on:

I reworked the story script and then talked with a friend of mine and we reworked the story even more this had to be done because a couple of weeks ago we decided to not make a film anymore but make a series of short episodes which would be more achievable as a goal with some resultats sooner then with a movie (the movie we would be working still a lot of years before even thinking of realising it :) ) so this would mean rewriting the story so that it can be divided into episodes this is what we were aiming for but in the end we ended up adding, changing even more things then expected :).
When last friday we were talking with the same friends around a good old guiness we decided to drop the trailer for a big part and only work on the one scene that is furthest for now and from then on really work on the episodes. Everything we did would have been used in the movie so nothing is lost :D

this has lead us to working on a couple of scripts for the first episodes which are being reworked at the moment then will be turned into storyboards and from there we'll restart modelling (in the meanwhile we'll keep on working on the scene from the trailer which is finally becoming a teaser :p)

This has made us change quite some things but all to make it even better, better organised, a great team and lots of fun hehe :D

so as soon as we have more to show Scifi-meshes will be the first one informed :D

Happy Christmas even a day after hehe

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

And here goes with another update :).

Like said a couple of pages back there was a request for a small tutorial on the bus texture:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipText16.jpg

Well Steve Cowling who modelled this one has written one and he has just send it over to me and here it is : Tutorial Texture blending (http://caveman-digital.com/tutorials/Blending%20Textures%20Tutorial.pdf)

A big thanks to Steve and comments, crits and questions dont hesitate ;)

cheers
jozef

[Ramiel]

I like the texture work on the reporter (I'm not sure about the hat, but it's a minor crit)...
Keep it up!;)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Ramiel, transmitted the info :)

Well on behalf of the team and myself I wish you all a very happy new year, those who check out the thread regulary and well all those who come by all the best. Scifi-meshes has been one of the forums where the users believe in what we do and support us through the whole process during the last year it has been great to check in here and see the comments aswell as all the other work that is being done on these forums. So thank you very much :)

and we hope 2007 will be a great year for the project . At the moment we're restructering everything make it even more solid after a year of work so we hope to have some updates during the coming weeks

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

Here we are again (well I check this thread everyday just to see the beautiful avatar of Ramiel ;) )

some texturing this time :D
silos for in the industrial area which is almost completly unwrapped :) some small parts left to do :)

(btw anybody feels like txturing? ;) )

cheers
jozef
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/oil_Silos14.jpg

[DarthMaya]

Cool reporter and silos!
I would texture, but I am not that good at it....:D

[aszazeroth]

Very nice work, great tutorial too, give regards to Steve. Always nice to see you pop in here now and then to post excellent work... keep up the steam !

[cirus5555]

this is going to shape up to be the most amazing project ive ever seen here on Scifi-meshes keep it up man you the da king:thumb:

[Ramiel]

Well, it's good to know that my avatars are appreciated!:D
Out of curiosity, what kind of texture work do you need on those silos? I could help (time permitting)...;)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks again everybody for all those great comments :D
really keeps us going :) I know we are rather quiet at the moment but that is to come back with even more :devil: :devil:

@Ramiel well the silos have been textured but its more the rest of the industrial area that needs the same kind of texturing job as the silos :) old and wrecked and torn a part :) (I posted a uvw to give you an idea :) )
Would be glad if you would have some time to help us out :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_warehouse.jpg
(I admit it arent the most beautifull UVW's out here but its to gain some time and well we see those buildings from far away :) )
its the uvw's of this building:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/warehouse.jpg

[Tovette]

very cool! Always looking forward to more.

[Ramiel]

OK, a little test...
First the diffuse map
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3407/uvwwarehouse2xj4.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uvwwarehouse2xj4.jpg)
Then the bump map
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/636/uvwwarehousebumpcp1.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uvwwarehousebumpcp1.jpg)
And the specular
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4893/uvwwarehousespecularuz7.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uvwwarehousespecularuz7.jpg)
Let me see if these works;)

[Tovette]

Ramiel, your avatar is hotttt. :p

[Glazy]

Ramiel, your avatar is hotttt. :p

I thought that was Ramiel ?!

[Larsen]

WOW...why haven't I seen this before:o Awsome work!

[Ramiel]

Ramiel, your avatar is hotttt. :p
Thanks, I don't think I can post her name here... Maybe via PM...:D

I thought that was Ramiel ?!

Erm... No! Sorry:D

Back on topic (Sorry for the hijack, The_Caveman;) )

[The_Caveman]

WOW...why haven't I seen this before:o Awsome work!

Must be because Ramiel changed his avatar not that long ago..... :p

no problem for the hijack if a girl like that hijacks me I'm willing to give the car and everything in it (including me :p)

okay back to the project loool

those are some very very impressive textures you made there :D I love them
so those the rest of the team hehe :D Thanks a lot

here is a render (with a veryyyyy crappy light setup sorry for that)
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/warehouse03.jpg

what do you think? and damn you have been fast lol
would you be willing to do some more?? :D

cheers
jozef

EDIT:
less crappy lightning I think?

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/warehouse04.jpg

[DarthMaya]

cool textures ramiel.

[Ramiel]

Thanks, but it's easy when someone is giving you the UVW's... That's the hard part for me!:P
So, Jozef, if you have something already mapped... I think I can give it a try...;)

[The_Caveman]

Oh :D thanks already hehe :)

well here are three pick the one you like :D

one is an old train station(its made of several parts, three total buildings), the second are bigger oil silos and the third one is the railway track "bridge" running in front of the warehouse :)

A really big thanks already :)

cheers
jozef


http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/hideout.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_hideoutBuilding1.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_hideoutBuilding2.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_hideoutsidebuilding0.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_hideoutsidebuilding1.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_hideoutsidebuilding2.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/BigSilos.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_BigSilos.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_BigSilosPlatform.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/warehouse05.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/uvw/uvw_sideLane2.jpg

[Glazy]

This work is all great !! This project looks fab !

[limdaepl]

Don't you think those high aches should be windows instead of brick walls Ramiel? Don't want to critisize you but it looks somewhat wrong to me that way.

Just my 2 cents,
Regards Roman

[Ramiel]

Those are windows, but I supposed that I was texturing just the walls:D (anyway it's very easy to fix...)
Image saved, I'll start asap!:)

[DarthMaya]

Thanks, but it's easy when someone is giving you the UVW's... That's the hard part for me!:P
So, Jozef, if you have something already mapped... I think I can give it a try...;)

Yeap I got the saw thing on the ultimate empire at war mod, I don't know how to uv but texturing is fun. :)

[sovrane]

Great Projekt! Cant wait to see more!

[The_Caveman]

Thanks for all those great comments again :D really appreciated :)

@limdaepl, yup normally it should be windows but its pretty easy to fix with an alpha map :D. and I might keep some of the windows closed with rocks to give it an older look :)

@Ramiel : Thanks :D looking forward to the next texture :)

@DarthMaya: yup uvw mapping is a real pain :s if u want to do it right and all takes ages :(

@Glazy, sovrane: thanks for your comments :D


Well something completly different this time hehe :) to avoid copyright problems, with the story and with the team I recently created a small "company" called Caveman Digital to get all the legal issues dealed with. Eventhough until now we didnt really had any big problems but well that "company" needed a logo so I have been playing and i'm proud to present you guys :

Cavy, the digital caveman :

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Cavy06.jpg

and for a bigger logo :
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Caveman-Digital01.jpg

he needs some work though but thought I should present him on scifi meshes :)

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

Time for some more updates :)
After the bus Gahn started working on our "reversed" maglev system for the transport in omiQron here are a couple of shots of the suspension and a lowpoly version of the train (the concept is a couple of pages back :) )

Cheers
jozef

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevwipTrack.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevwip9.jpg

[cirus5555]

I like ur train nice and funktional.
see youve been playing around with fur as well do you need a Badger in your movie.:D
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/9970-rock-project-6.html#post144706

[aszazeroth]

Pretty trainset... makes me wanna bring out my Märklin and build rails !

[DarthMaya]

Awesome train!

[Ramiel]

Hey jozef,
I have not forget you (and the textures), I'm just busy with my work!
Great train by the way!;)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks for the reply's everybody very much appreciated :D

I know we're kinda silent and pop in every once in a while but I hope its worth the waiting :)

@ramiel: no problem I'll wait I know the result will be worth it

here are some updates on the train:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevwip19.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevwip15.jpg

[aszazeroth]

Nice... keep popping in !

[DarthMaya]

Looks awesome, keep it up. Love seeing the updates. :D

[BorgMan]

Well Cave, you've got my attention. As you might have noticed, my strength lies in transportation so if you need concepts give me a ring. My time is limited but I'm willing to try and make some time for this :)

[The_Caveman]

Thanks again to aszazeroth and DarthMaya glad you like it :D

@Borgman thanks for passing by and well we could actually use some help on transport concepts so would be great to have your help on this one :D.
We're thinking of putting the vehicules on the same kind of maglev system but we didnt do any concepting (real ones) for it yet so if you could try out some of those would be great :D

cheers
jozef

[Lord Erisu]

Nice work, its all lookin' good.

[BorgMan]

And we're *bump*ing the thread back up again. I didn't got word from you Caveman so I just got on with it...

It's supposed to be a heavy freight engine, probably with containers between the front and end car. I'll sketch it out for you guys what I'm planning to do with it soon, but if it's possible I'd like more info from you guys :)

[The_Caveman]

Hey,

yup sorry my mistake. I answered in the thread but forgot to send you some more info after that but seems like i did the right thing because its turning out really nice :D.

Here is some more info on the transportation system as it looks like right now:

Because the project is set in a near future there will still be "normal" transportation. cars with wheels. but next to that above all the roads will be a maglev system.
One track for public transport (the one that is being build right now) and one track for cargo (like u just drew)
and finally tracks for the personal vehicules. The personal vehicules that can do maglev can do road aswell but not all the road vehicles can go maglev.

I think this car:
the audi RSQ
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2004/2004-Audi-RSQ-Concept-RA-1280x960.jpg

would be a nice source of inspiration to get the idea I had in mind?
let me know if you need more info ^^

Cheers
jozef

ps: for everybody we got a surprise coming up during the coming days

[DarthMaya]

oooo surprises...I likea da surprises.... :D
Is that the same car thats in I-robot? Very cool looking

[BorgMan]

Allrighty, I'll work the cargo train out a bit more, but in the meantime I have a civy car too. It might not be a surprise that it borrows some elements of the Audi... *shrugs*

The idea itself isn't actually new, I've got a few other Fulgura's on display here (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/2d-wips/1572-borgmans-concept-alcove-not-faint-heart.html), but the next one is a bit addapted to omiQron itself. Let me know if something usefull is in my 2D work already so I can touch it up for you guys :)

[EDIT] :mad: my internet connection is refusing to upload the pic. I'll do it tomorow from work 'cause it will work there. Have patience please...

[The_Caveman]

looking forward to the updated cargo
and even more to the civics car :)

I went through the thread aswell you've put into ur post and I really like these two:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachments/2d-wips/5504d1149880589-borgmans-concept-alcove-not-faint-heart-train.jpg

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachments/2d-wips/5510d1149880995-borgmans-concept-alcove-not-faint-heart-rally_fulgura_top_side.jpg

any chance u might give a shot at those two?

thanks for the effort already :D
cheers
jozef

ps: the surprise is almost ready one or two days left to wait ^^

[BorgMan]

Sure, no problem! Tho I want to point out that the top/side view is the same car as, for example, the one in the Dakar scene. And I take it you want to use the train on a maglev track? Question questions questions :D

And, as promised ;)

[The_Caveman]

I like the idea of the twisting wheels nice one but I think we might take it a step further for the wheels :) we were going for the idea to make it suspend like the train does so maybe make the wheels slide out and go up towards the maglev track?

but I like the concept a lot so if you could maybe invent something for the wheels then it would be ready to go into 3D?

yups the train would be nice to have it on maglev aswell, that possible?

cheers
jozef

[BorgMan]

The normal vehicles use the same overhead maglev system? If so... That's going to be tough. Next from the technical matter it isn't so practical either. I take it you've seen Immortals? Their system (hovercars that get their power from an overhead wire) looks fancy and all but it isn't very practical, but in translating that principle to a maglev system is more difficult: a car needs two connection points in order to be able to hang down from a maglev track. Incorporating that into, say, a truck or a bus isn't so hard; I can do that while still retaining a sense of "flow". For a car that's a lot more difficult, but if that's what you want I can figure something out :)

[EDIT] I was thinking in the wrong direction I think: Minority Report's cars didn't fall down from the maglev track either when the road took a 90 degrees turn down. Give me some time to figure this one out; I'll probably come up with a hybrid track that can support both train traffic and road traffic...

[BorgMan]

And as promised the updated cargo train. Now with interior :D

[The_Caveman]

I like it!!! :D

very nice. fits exactly into the style of the whole project. Really nice work. its a bit "today" like with the container and the forms but also futuristic with it integrated into the train and suspended. Really nice.

For the cars its true that it will look a bit weird and all but normally if for exemple you build something into the roof (not sure its possible in real life but it'll be in the project :P because its Sci-fi) then it might work aswell? or the magnets on the wheels may have such "power" that it doesnt need to go up but just slide out a little of the car to make a clean field? just some ideas...

cheers
jozef

[BorgMan]

Well, I came up with a system that lets the weels come out of their base and rise up. I'm quite satisfied with the result :)

[The_Caveman]

You got it :D

I really like this one, oh and the car is looking great aswell.
I'll try and do a fast 3d thingie that would look like this and all animated see if it is that what your meaning.
should be online later today

really nice work

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

It took a little longer then expected and it isnt a 100% finished yet but finished enough to bring out the surprise to these forums :)

so the new and more official website of the omiQron project is now online:
omiQron Project (http://omiqron.caveman-digital.com/)

I hope that you like it as much as we liked working on it
Cheers
jozef

[BorgMan]

Wicked! I registered, and as soon as one of you has added me I'll post the work from here there too. I'm curious what the others think of it :)

[The_Caveman]

Your account has been actived BorgMan welcome on board ;)

I took your drawing and did a small block in animation to see what it would look like (its still looking a bit crappy because of the lack of detail and such but ohwell I think it can look pretty damn good)

so here is what I came up with:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/audi_maglev.mov

I need to make it slide toward the top to make it go above the roof and get close to the maglev track. Anyways I'd say idea adopted and lets take it to the next stage ^^ = detailing

cheers
jozef

[BorgMan]

Yeah that's the idea, but don't forget to let the wheel turn to the top so that the 'mag-lev wheels' are facing the track, instead of the side (tires). But all in all... Not bad :)

[The_Caveman]

Some more updates.

first of all a new section of the industrial area modelled by James Astley:

images:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/559/192px0.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=192px0.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6950/16ap3.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16ap3.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4659/20bv6.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20bv6.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2963/21nq1.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21nq1.jpg)http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/860/13ml2.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ml2.jpg)http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3896/14po7.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14po7.jpg)http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3360/15jm1.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jm1.jpg)http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9449/18ey0.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18ey0.jpg)

and an interior shot...
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2245/17zc7.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17zc7.jpg)


and some more work on the maglev system....
This time the bus (needs the wheels to get turned)

I think this might work aswell, it would be less expensive in an econimical perspective.... it would just ask a change of the suspension system instead of cutting out sides of the car and adding other mechanism then those in place?

so here my start on the detailing of the system:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/bus_maglev.avi

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/bus01.jpg

cheers
jozef

[The_Caveman]

We're still alive and kicking :)

Working to finish the website, working on some environnement aswell and the script is getting closer to finished to actually start production :p

but nothing to show yet but last week we celebrated the first year of omiQron collab so I wanted to thank scifi-meshes members for their interest and great comment and I hope that this year will bring a lot of stuff to these forums :)

cheers
jozef

[scifieric]

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing some of your final product!

[The_Caveman]

Lets dig this thread backup, no pictures yet :)
Just to keep you posted on our progress.
Right now I'm working on translating the script for a first episode so it can be storyboarded the way it should be.....
We're working on some models but well its all in a rather early stade :)

so just some text to keep you up to date with what is going on :)

cheers
jozef

[Starship]

Nice to hear news.
Just a niptick about the old interface: is a bit indistinct green fonts over gray background. ;) Can I suggest yellow, white or light green fonts?

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Starship for your comments and thanks for the suggestion which will of course be applied. I'm already working on a V2 of the website to take out the different bugs in it :)

[The_Caveman]

Time to drop off some images again :)

Were into storyboarding right now. First scenes are slowly but surely dripping in :)

this is James Astley doing some more modelling again :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/newstreet1.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/newstreet3.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/advert_tunnel5.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/advert_tunnel3.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/tankprocess1.jpg

[Ramiel]

Man those models are really cool!
(I'm sending you a PM;) )

[scifieric]

Nice update and I can't wait to see those models fully rendered!

[The_Caveman]

Hey hey,

Don't forget about us, we didnt abandonned the project hehe, a lot of things are going on behind stage and some true plans are being made (like always, how many times did I say that sentence? :p) anyways we're still working hard, the core team is still solid and working trying to make the best of it :)

I should have some more detailed updates rather soon but just to thank scifieric and Ramiel for their reply's and letting you know we're still alive ^^

Cheers
jozef

[scifieric]

Hey, our pleasure!

Dying to see what you guys have come up with. I know that anything worth having is worth waiting for ( ... but come on! LOL!)

[cirus5555]

Well someones been bizzy looking vert impressive

[The_Caveman]

^^ we're doing our best here is some more eye candy :)

Cheers
jozef

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevText%20wip%206.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevTEXT%20WIP%207.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevText%20wip%205.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1170/29091631eq6.jpg

[backstept]

I'm absolutely blown away . . .
what more can I say?

[Mandalore]

just great...

[scifieric]

This is going to be fun to see!

[ChrisGFX]

awesome! breathtaking! great!

[cirus5555]

this project is so cool I carnt wait to see more

[The_Caveman]

Thanks so much for all the great reply's. We're working hard to get some more things to show here :)

thanks again very much appreciated

[lennier1]

It´s always nice to be proven once again why omiQron is one of the most respected projects around here. Congratulations on everything you´ve achieved already. Definitely looking forward to seeing more of your work.

[The_Caveman]

Wow, euhm wait wait let me crawl back up my chair, one of the most respected. Thank you very very much that is a huuuge compliment

and well it deserves another render :D

Thanks again :)
Cheers
jozef

made by our newest member Leotril ^^
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8521/int2clayyq5.jpg

[scifieric]

Thanks so much for all the great reply's. We're working hard to get some more things to show here :)

thanks again very much appreciated
Well, we very much appreciate being entertained by such a wonderful (complex, involved, complicated and difficult) project!

[The_Caveman]

Took a little longer to reply to this reply(we had to come up with something worthy for these kind of replies :thumb:) but I hope that it is shows how much we appreciate your comments ^^

so here are some more:

Cheers
jozef

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6370/54674960ap1.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6306/76495067lk7.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4108/71598864wm1.jpg

[backstept]

:eek!:
I know this project has already been headered, but I want to header it again :lol:
I'm absolutely blown away by the architecture!

[The_Caveman]

looool would be awsome ^^

anyways if at scifi-meshes would be willing to maybe write an article together with the team about the project we would be more then willing :) (I don't mean like wow look at us how good we are and that kind of stuff but I think there are probably more guys (and probably girls aswell) wanting to do the same kind of things if we can help them with that by writing a small article or have a small interview or something count us in. once again I dont want to sound like "wow look at us we're the best" we're learning a lot in the process and would just like to share it :) )

So just throwing an idea like that into the scifi-meshes community

Thanks for the post Backstept greatly appreciated like always :thumb:

Cheers
jozef

[scifieric]

I love the floor (dirt) texture!