Legacy Class Bridge

[Countdown5]

Well as many have noticed, I haven’t posted much lately on my Coventry Bridge (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/18-uss-coventry-bridge.html?highlight=coventry) project.

Reason for that is I needed to test a few ideas first. And I figured, use someone else’s design as the guinea pig. That and Galen asked me to help.

So anyway... More Images Are Here (http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge.html)

Ill have some high res images loaded to SFM tonight. As always questions and C&C are welcome.
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/LRG%20Render%20001.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%205.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%206_1.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%207_1.jpg

[BorgMan]

Sweet! But, as designers under eachother... I'd suggest you use a similar shape as the centre part of the console behind the captain's raised level as an endcap of that console, and blank out the part in between. I think that would look sweet!

[Countdown5]

Yea... Not quite done with that area yet. Could try a smaller version of it to cap off the end.

[SDGreywolf]

SSSSSSWWWWWEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
The lady is really starting to take shape.

[Tovette]

this looks sexy.

[Hellsgate]

Watch out, SeanR. Here comes some competition on the 3D Scene in the form of Countdown5!

[Countdown5]

Watch out, SeanR. Here comes some competition on the 3D Scene in the form of Countdown5!

Wasnt he the one doing that Nightwatch galaxy class bridge refit. That thing was sweet, has it been re-posted since the crash?

[Galen]

SeanR's bridges were great! So are your's man! THe Legacy bridge is looking good. I'm still working on the LCARS, damn its n ot easy

[Countdown5]

Its not supposed to be. Thats why its fun.

[Cerberus]

So good, it actually hurts!

[Hellsgate]

Updates? (Bump.)

[Choo1701]

check countdowns site Hellsgate....

[Countdown5]

Updates? (Bump.)

Sorry. i have several projects i jump around to so as to not get burnt out on one or the other. This weekend is the Coventry updates. I may have something for this on Saturday.

[tooie32]

Awsome work Countdown5 much better then the one I made for Kaden and Galen.

Hope when one of them visited here will give ya a good comment I love the progress on the bridge.


Carl

[Countdown5]

Oh... You did the original build. For the most part its measurement for measurement off yours. All I did was throw in some detail mods. But its definitely one of the more interesting bridge designs Iv had to work on.

Thanks

[tooie32]

Wel Galen made the origional design but only the top view made the mesh version which it didn't turn out really good.

At least yours is much better than mine.

As long as they didn't do any changes to the bridge design that I didn't know of.

But we will find out once one of them starts posting.

I do still have the the top view sketch of the bridge but I lost my mesh one during the computer data transphere from the old computer to the new.

If ya want the sketch if ya don't have it let me know.


Carl

[Galen]

Lol, and one of them has posted! Nice work CD. I love what you have done with the place :)

[Countdown5]

Finally got the last bit framed. When I receaved the bridge module off the Legacy mesh, found out that some parts didnt quite fit. So Im modding that a little as I go. Anyway...here.

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%204_1.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%205_1.jpg

[Countdown5]

By the way... Galen, how do you want the display in the Observation Lounge to go?

[Countdown5]

Oh... and do you want what i call a "Legacy Wall" no pun intended

[kaden]

what you could do is just drop the main bridge area down a bit so it fits and have ramp ups into the conference room and steps up into the ready room.

or just go off my bridge model since it all fits lol

[Countdown5]

Well now that I redid the shell the bridge will fit fine. It only needed 2 feet of relative space.
See... It gave me just enough space to fit this station in properly.

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%206_2.jpg


and I thought I would lower the Observation Lounge and have steps to keep that waist level window sill.

[Hellsgate]

Hmmm...just a comment, please forgive me...I was just wondering if you'd want a Captain's Yacht or a (Post-TNG) equivalent of a warp sled's passenger compartment (with it's own direct-entry docking collar & armored concealed shuttlebay,) connected directly to a corridor that connects the main bridge to the executive officer's office, (the conference room, the head, etc.) Basically, an easy-access (warp-capable) escape pod. Just an idea.

[Countdown5]

Not sure... Would the designers give a ruling on that?

[Galen]

Hmm, the ship does already have a warp capable executive runabout, but its located directly under the bridge, 12 decks down LOL.. Maybe 1 of the turbo shafts could lead direct access to it?

BTW, looking good ther Zack. Very very good :) Lol, a Legacy wall would be nice, but I have no idea what her predecessor line would be. BTW, i noticed that the Ready room area has 2 entry doors. I'm thinking 1 would suffice. Maybe the other door could lead to the yacht lift or to the toilet. But that means we'll have to put a wall at the ready room, right after where the roof glass view port will be located

[Countdown5]

Thanks

[kaden]

looking at the bridge from the top facing aft, the right door of the ready rooms doors, is actually the turbolift. the details are on the ship model, the bottom right door way next to the viewscreen is another turbolift, the left side though is acess to the forward rooms or another ramp or stairs down to deck 2. here is a pic anyways:

[exodus2310]

That's coming together quite nicely. Kudos.

[nhall]

I concur. :thumb:

Cheers,
Nick

[Countdown5]

looking at the bridge from the top facing aft, the right door of the ready rooms doors, is actually the turbolift. the details are on the ship model, the bottom right door way next to the viewscreen is another turbolift, the left side though is acess to the forward rooms or another ramp or stairs down to deck 2. here is a pic anyways:

Yea... Havent framed that area yet... But thanks

[Countdown5]

However the two rampways with arrows and the bathroom were not on the top view ortho Galen gave me...

[kaden]

thats because that is the old bride layout not the new one

[Countdown5]

Why dont people tell me these things...:D

"Okay George, blow it up. We gota start over." (BOOM):eek:

And I thought we were building sets... Not people

[Galen]

So sorry for the mix up Zack. Hope its not too much of a set back.

[Countdown5]

No problem, simple fix.

Anyway, I got the turbolifts done for the most part. Still some detailing to do on them though. Also readjusted the layout for the new ortho map, and roughed out the ceiling trim.

Kaden, Galen, let me know if you like the style of these adjustments . Once i hear from you Ill start cutting into them for the panels and lighting.

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%207_2.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%208_1.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%209_1.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%2010_1.jpg

[Dark Angel]

Oh loving this Bridge. Keep the updates coming! Fabulous!
Oh a suggestion maybe have a holocommunications platform?

[picard102]

no access out of the top of the turbo?

[Galen]

I love em! It looks great. But remember to allocate some down spot lights to the ceiling.

[Aresius]

nice...
@picard102: the bridge is at the very top... An access wouldn't make much sense...

[Starscream]

I think Picard102 means the turbolift itself, not the shaft... as I recall, in TNG you could exit the lift via a hatch in the ceiling - something they forgot in Voyager, when they installed the overly elaborate lighting there instead.

[homerpalooza67]

Hmm, the ship does already have a warp capable executive runabout, but its located directly under the bridge, 12 decks down LOL.. Maybe 1 of the turbo shafts could lead direct access to it?

BTW, looking good ther Zack. Very very good :) Lol, a Legacy wall would be nice, but I have no idea what her predecessor line would be. BTW, i noticed that the Ready room area has 2 entry doors. I'm thinking 1 would suffice. Maybe the other door could lead to the yacht lift or to the toilet. But that means we'll have to put a wall at the ready room, right after where the roof glass view port will be located

move the view port over 3 meters and you hve ure toiliet. maybe an emergency transporter pad in the ready room, leading to escape pods and shuttlebays?

[Countdown5]

I love em! It looks great. But remember to allocate some down spot lights to the ceiling.

Yea, I will... Just wanted to make sure the general shape worked before I started all the "tough to change" stuff.

[seanr]

Looking fantastic!

[Countdown5]

Looking fantastic!

Hey Seanr... Always ment to ask you. What kinda texture, if any, do you usualy add to the main color on your bridge sets? (Static, Diffuse Clouds, ect)

[Hellsgate]

I wouldn't want the Captain's Yacht twelve decks down...I'd want to run down a hallway with forcefields activating behind me & double/triple-thick duranium doors slamming shut as my commbadge activates a series of stubborn security measures & the aft of the bridge module is the last thing I see as I streak away at high impulse or warp before a self destruct sequence blows up the mothership.

I'd want my escape shuttle just meters away, on the same deck, embedded in the top of the saucer in place of the conference room in the rear area of the bridge. The Main (& Battle) Bridge are themselves big conference rooms so why have more of them?

[Starscream]

Because your idea is *cough*fanboyish*cough* overkill? Honestly Hellsgate, I read that at first and thought you must be joking...

[picard102]

Ya, I get the doors, and the forcefeilds, but being activated by the comm-badge. That's just silly.

[Countdown5]

(franticly writting down all the ideas...)

...embedded in the top of the saucer. Right. I dont know how I would work all this in, but...

[BorgMan]

C5... The "embedded at the top of saucer' thing isn't new. Voyager's bridge was a self contained unit which was capable of seperation too... Or so I have read somewhere...

[seanr]

Hey Seanr... Always ment to ask you. What kinda texture, if any, do you usualy add to the main color on your bridge sets? (Static, Diffuse Clouds, ect)I typically use a very slight cloud pattern if any and a very slight noise bump. Subtlty is the key. The cloud pattern isn't necessary so much but will help vary the surface a bit. The noise will give it just a hint of roughness - walls are never perfectly smooth in some in Trek have even been intentionally a bit spackled like the walls on the ST6 and 7 (Ent-B) bridge sets.

[Countdown5]

I typically use a very slight cloud pattern if any and a very slight noise bump. Subtlty is the key. The cloud pattern isn't necessary so much but will help vary the surface a bit. The noise will give it just a hint of roughness - walls are never perfectly smooth in some in Trek have even been intentionally a bit spackled like the walls on the ST6 and 7 (Ent-B) bridge sets.


Figured as much... Thanks.

And Borgman... I was kinda joking. But I do jot down all the ideas people throw my way though. It would be kinda cool to do an emergency bridge sep sometime.

[Lord_Trekie]

I love your bridge design. Can't wait to see more.

[Countdown5]

Come on you... Breath... CLEAR!!!

IT'S ALIVE!!!

Sorry for not posting on this for a while. Schools been kicking my butt.

Got the science section molded and the controls styled out.

Have the next two days off so hoping to get somewhat farther on this and the Coventry projects.

[Galen]

OMG! Its looking great. I should have the LCARS for the stations done soon!!

[Melak]

Very nice! Can't wait to see it with LCARS :eek:

[seanr]

'bout fugg'n time! ;)

Nice work.

[Aresius]

very fine...

[Jenny]

If I were doing this, I'd face the aft turbolift the other way, so it exited into that corridor, and not the bridge. It's always kind of bugged me that anyone arriving for a meeting with the Captain in his ready room, or a meeting of any kind in that observation lounge / briefing room, has to traipse through the bridge.

In the modern Navy, they try to keep extraneous visitors out of the bridge.

[Countdown5]

In the modern Navy, they try to keep extraneous visitors out of the bridge.

Thats what force fields and airlocks are for...:D

[Countdown5]

OMG! Its looking great. I should have the LCARS for the stations done soon!!


Give me a few and ill have the UV maps to you... Should help with the alignment

[Countdown5]

The nights progress...

Some detailing around the science stations and got the con and ops roughed out.

[xjcgi2006]

good, cool........:)

[Galen]

Excellent work CD! The Helm/ Ops console would look cooler if you could add a light strip down the middle stand area. Keep it up man!

[seanr]

I agree. See ST5 and 6 for a reference.

[Captain Robb]

Is Legacy Class the Titan project?

[Countdown5]

Yes... No... Was... I don't know

[Lord_Trekie]

Very cool work you've done there. :)

[Lonewriter]

This looks sooooo good. Definitely a worthy bridge for the best non canon ship made.

[Countdown5]

Okay... here is the redesigned helm area.

Galen, am I going in the right direction?

[Lonewriter]

I like that.

[Countdown5]

Thanks... now the question is, does management???

[Galen]

Management is in agreement. Accept for that little thing I told u in email :) BTW, i havent been able to restore my Illustrator files yet, so if you need to put the LCARS screens in, maybe you could use thoes from the COnventry bridge as a temp place holder. I'll get on the LCARS the moment i get thoes frakking files restored.

[Lord_Trekie]

Beautiful work on the new Helm console, and I agree, this is an awesome bridge for what is probably one of the, if not THE, coolest fan designed ships.

[Countdown5]

Management is in agreement. Accept for that little thing I told u in email :) BTW, i havent been able to restore my Illustrator files yet, so if you need to put the LCARS screens in, maybe you could use thoes from the COnventry bridge as a temp place holder. I'll get on the LCARS the moment i get thoes frakking files restored.

All they will do is shine and show pretty, pretty colors. I can build without them. Take your time, have fun.:D

[Cpt_Chaos]

I have to say it is one of the best fan based Trek bridge designs I have seen to date. I think everything surrounding the Legacy class is fantastic.

Keep up the good work and I hope there is more in the future.

[Countdown5]

Thanks...

[seanr]

Looking great, but I've got a little bit of advice you might find helpful:

I fear this set is going to run into the same problem most of these sets do, which is that it has been built from the group up based on a floor plan rather than from the outside in based on a hull shape, so that in the end, when the author gets to the point of having to add a ceiling to it, they can't (or don't) figure out how to integrate it with the walls.

If you look at all of the canon trek sets, you'll notice that the walls in all of them either curve or somehow angle in at the top, sometimes with an extra piece and sometimes directly, to the point where it's hard to identify a single specific point where the wall ends and the ceiling begins. They flow like one continuous structure. Most fan designs look great up to that point but then the ceiling just appears to be plopped on top.

I would strongly advise you to draw some sketches of the top of the walls and try to figure out some way to integrate the ceiling structure in with the walls so that it appears to be part of a singe larger superstructure. Take some time to think about it from an engineering standpoint - think about how you would build something like this so that it could withstand an impact (a small one, at least), and how it would need to be shaped relative to the outside of the ship.

Basically, what you have to do is think of the set in three dimensions, as a space, rather than in two dimensions as a floor plan. You'll notice if you look through my wips that all of my sets start out not with the floor but with a shell, building the walls and ceiling first and then working my way in. Occasionally the floor will get built at the same time as the ceiling or slightly before, but only as a rough approximation just to have something there usually. Here are a couple renders as examples:

http://www.webolutionary.com/truespace/gallery/seanr/temp/bridge_ambassador2-1.jpg
http://www.webolutionary.com/truespace/gallery/seanr/temp/bridge_daedalus2-1.jpg
http://www.webolutionary.com/truespace/gallery/seanr/temp/bridge_millennium-1.jpg
http://www.webolutionary.com/truespace/gallery/seanr/temp/bridge_enthybrid-1.jpg

That advice applies for anyone interested in set design of any kind, not just this set or even just bridge sets. It's a pretty common mistake I see, so I figured I'd try to head it off at the pass before this project got too far along in case you hadn't already thought of it.

[seanr]

BTW, I wish I had more of those, but it's pretty rare that I even render a set that early in its construction and even rarer still that I actually upload them for distribution. I tend to get all the way through the shell and start building stations before I do my first test renders.

[Countdown5]

Thanks seanr... thats been something thats always been odd for me, as I'm sure it is with most. What looks well spaced and placed in a 2D plan doesn't always look right in 3D.

The outer walls and the roof are temps for now... Just ideas I'm playing, testing a few things.

[Countdown5]

Okay... so given all the comments about the last roof-over-its-head I decided to do a new one. It does fit better, and if there are no objections to it Ill start cutting lights and... something into it. (not enough sleep... damn neighbors)

Anyway... here.

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%207_3.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%206_3.jpg

[Galen]

woah, no objections here. I like it a lot.

[Lonewriter]

I like it.

[Countdown5]

Onward Then!!!

:d

[Countdown5]

"Okay... Will the owners of a large, Legacy class veeee-hicl, please report to the white courtesy phone..."

Need some questions answered about lighting and your Ikea catalog for this ship.

First the lighting.
Click here (http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Downloads_files/Legacy%20VR%20001.mov.bz2)
Then review the VR. First do you agree with the route I taking with the light placements and 2, those floor panels around the helm. Do you want them to just give off a soft glow, or a bit more of a short but sharp projection.


And let me know about your chair style plans for the bridge.

[Galen]

omg omg omg omg!! that is so damn coool... Ok, light positions are fine. The floor lights should just give off a soft glow like on voyager. We could try either a Galaxy or Sovereign Seating style. Which ever is classier. LOL

I feel like a kid while playing with the VR, WOot!

[seanr]

That looks surperb. Nice work. I especially like the light coming through the skylight. That's one effect we never saw on the series even though many of the bridges from TNG on had those windows.

[tooie32]

Wow the bridge is comming along nicly Awsome work mate.

Nice work on the ceiling.

[Lord_Trekie]

Very nice reworking of the bridge dome there :) It looks great.

[Countdown5]

got the obs lounge framed out finally...
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%206.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%207.jpg

[Galen]

oh my god! I love that a lot. It looks fantastic. Btw, could this bridge model be fitted into the Legacy ship model?

[Countdown5]

Yea... thats why I asked you for the bridge section when i started this model. It will be plug and play.

[Galen]

cool, thanks dude. You have done an outstanding job!

[Countdown5]

Hey... are you gonna want a legacy wall on the...um, Legacy lounge?

[Galen]

LOL Legacy wall on the Legacy lounge... Sounds funny. Should be fun. Use the one u have on the Conventry's lounge. That one looked nice

[Countdown5]

Okay... That means you need to (it you haven't already) figure out the ancestors of this ship...
As you can tell I'm gonna put it in that blank space of wall. Do you want them on only one side or both? And does the screen work for you?

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%201.jpg

[Galen]

yup, the screen works fine for me, thanks.

[Countdown5]

...and the legacy wall... Both sides or just one?

[Galen]

both sides, I'll draw up some ship portraits for this, or perhaps a starship comparison chart like the one in the pic i attached below.Its at the far right end corner of the wall. Pic was captured by Jorg for EAS.

[Countdown5]

YEA... I kinda like that idea. Not too many people do it and it would be another way of showing off you're art skills with this project.

[Countdown5]

How about something like this...

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%202.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%204.jpg

[Hellsgate]

DANG...that's sweet!!!

[Galen]

OO i like it. Very nice. ya think it'll be nicer if its one piece on each side instead of 3 seperate pieces?

[Countdown5]

well... I can do build it like that if you want. But I think it helps break up that space to have more then one. Now if six is too many I can elongate them easily and break it down to 4. Or could to a 3 & 1. 3 history ships on one side, and a beauty shot of legacy on the other. All in that white on clear style like it is in the screen shot you had.

[Lonewriter]

now that is nice!

[Nadesico]

you should try to stretch that LCARs out so the side bars are in those two bumps of the screen and have the "main" data in the large rectangular part. Other then that, it's good

[Countdown5]

you should try to stretch that LCARs out so the side bars are in those two bumps of the screen and have the "main" data in the large rectangular part. Other then that, it's good


Its temp... thats actually the msd from the main bridge. Just wanted something other than black reflection.

[Aescapulius]

I remember seeing transparent LCARS (It was in Endgame, and futuristic, so shut me up if you think I'm bat****) and I'd wonder if that would look good against the transparent legacy screens?

Also, can I just day that you rock and I'll give you my firstborn if I can have your modeling skills?

[SDGreywolf]

CD5,
The room looks good...Keep up the good work.
Just wondering, is the MSD a new one of the Legacy Class or did you just reverse and reduce the image?
The only reason I ask is that it looks different from the original MSD.

[Countdown5]

Its the original image I had... but I just slapped it in there, so its possible that i reversed it.

[Captain Robb]

hey keep up the excellent work, its really really good.

[Hundred]

Nice modeling. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

[lennier1]

Nice progress. Any plans on lighting those panels? Hope it´s not too annoying but here´s something you might like: The core of those rods mounting the plates to the wall could be a glowing light source that´s covered by an outer metal shell everywhere except for the area where it touches the plate. Now if you make the white graphics roughed glass surface instead of simple paint they´ll glow because of the light reflected several times inside the glass (similar to the conditions inside fiber optics cables).
Just thinking out loud. After all it´s your design.

[Countdown5]

I was originally thinking some kinda floor light, but I really like your idea. Ill put together a demo and if G&K okay it...

[seanr]

I like the three pieces of glass on each side much better than one piece on each side. Also, I agree about the MSD. The two vertical bands should be shortened a bit and the whole MSD stretched horizontally so that the bands fit into the narrower ends of the screen.

[Countdown5]

If this is in regards to the one in the lounge... ITS TEMPORARY, ITS TEMPORARY!!!:D I have no idea what's going back there.

And here is that glass lighting test I promised

Yes? No?

[lennier1]

I´m impressed but also biased. Probably depends on how it´ll look with a greyscale graphic on top of it for the roughed painted surface.

[Countdown5]

Yea... I need a black and white msd from galen to test with.

[Countdown5]

Like this...

Galen... The image is a great length for fit. If we could get two or three history ships for the left side and one b&w beauty shot of the Legacy for the right, i think this could work.

And slightly thicker lines would help to bring these out. If possible...

And don't mind the odd area in the middle. I wasn't able to finish the render before having to lock up work.

[Render]

very nice

[Countdown5]

Hey lennier!!!

Really good idea...

[Galen]

ok. i'll draw up some ships for the history line. probably a constitution and Ambassador class ship. But its gonna be a while. The Beauty shot of the ship, must it be in Black and white?

[Countdown5]

ok. i'll draw up some ships for the history line. probably a constitution and Ambassador class ship. But its gonna be a while. The Beauty shot of the ship, must it be in Black and white?

Kinda... I'm using the image as an alpha map it get the effect. So grays would work. Just remember, the lighter the area, the more transparent it will be.

[Countdown5]

Just kinda threw this together tonight... Galen sent me an old hall design he had for the legacy. Still have a few objects to put in and some color to touch up...

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Bridge_files/Picture%205_2.jpg

[Galen]

woah, thats nice dude. Oh yea, I'm thinking of using the same colour scheme as the bridge pic i sent you yesterday. A lighter more hotel like colour scheme. Glad to see SFM back too.

[Countdown5]

Yea... I saw the reference. Ill start adding that to everything this week...

[SDGreywolf]

CD5,
Nice work on the coridor

[Countdown5]

Okay... finished up the display wall except for a few small details. Will start in on the furniture next

http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%204_1.jpg
http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/iWeb/Countdown%20Five%20Productions/Legacy%20Lounge_files/Picture%206_1.jpg

[Aresius]

nice...
looking great...

[Lonewriter]

that looks great, it would also make a good looking viewscreen on the bridge.

[Countdown5]

Yea... Kinda big. Been noticing that on the entire deck 1. Large proportions, lot of open space.

[Galen]

yea thats the way i visioned it. Big spacious design. Nice work there CD! really nice

[Countdown5]

Then I shall bring forth that vision unto the masses!!!

(sorry... had some funky Shakespeare film playing in the background.)

[Nell 3D]

exelen work of light

[Lord_Trekie]

Nice work on the display and corridor guys :D

[Jack Skieczius]

hey countdown5, very nice work so far on the bridge.

i am just wondering, if and when you may complete the bridge.

i am also wondering if you would release it to the Star Trek Protector fan series project, as we would put it to very good use.

[Countdown5]

hey countdown5, very nice work so far on the bridge.

i am just wondering, if and when you may complete the bridge.

i am also wondering if you would release it to the Star Trek Protector fan series project, as we would put it to very good use.

Um... you would have to talk to the designers as they hold ownership rights. Like I tell people... I'm just the build guy.

[Countdown5]

Two new images here...
Legacy Class: Observation Lounge (http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/Countdown_Five_Productions/Legacy_Lounge.html#10)

Within the page is a download link for the full res image. Should be above the image list.

[Lord_Trekie]

Ohh beautiful renders Countdown :) Now when you getting back to the main bridge? ;)

[Countdown5]

Soon as I finish this. They want to take the bridge shell and the obs lounge and work it into the ship model.

[Lord_Trekie]

Ah cool :) Good luck, look forward to seeing the continued work on the bridge. :D

[Hellsgate]

SWEET. (As always.)

[Lonewriter]

Great job, can't wait to see the bridge completed.

[Countdown5]

Finally got the background elements placed.

Legacy Class: Observation Lounge (http://web.mac.com/morganzacd5p/Countdown_Five_Productions/Legacy_Lounge.html#11)


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[vividevolution]

Definitely looking real!!

[Tovette]

I love those chairs :)

[Lord_Trekie]

I love those chairs :)

What he said :p The whole thing looks awesome :cool:

[Galen]

As usual, excellent work CD5!! Thoes chairs sure looks comfy...

[Aresius]

Man, I wish Star Trek would be real... :(

[Countdown5]

Man, I wish Star Trek would be real... :(

Don't we all... Don't we all:D

[lennier1]

Don't we all... Don't we all:DEugenics Wars, WW3, Earth-Romulan War, Klingon Encounter, Federation-Cardassian War, Dominion War, ...

No thanks.

[Lonewriter]

Eugenics Wars, WW3, Earth-Romulan War, Klingon Encounter, Federation-Cardassian War, Dominion War, ...

No thanks.

transporters, replicators, holodecks and Orion slave girls! I say yes!

[Aresius]

Well, lennier1, that's just a point of race... As a Klingon you wouldn't think this way, would ye?
About the other other things...
Sure thing, man... ;):thumb:

[Countdown5]

Eugenics Wars, WW3, Earth-Romulan War, Klingon Encounter, Federation-Cardassian War, Dominion War, ...

No thanks.


Yea... but just think how in the end those events brought us closer together as a planet.

[Melak]

Well if we could skip a few centuries in trek history, why not? :D
Really nice bridge, I love those bent wall panels with schematics! Went straight into my trek interiors folder, together with all the other images of this bridge :p

[Countdown5]

Well if we could skip a few centuries in trek history, why not? :D
Really nice bridge, I love those bent wall panels with schematics! Went straight into my trek interiors folder, together with all the other images of this bridge :p

That was the only way of displaying "legacy ships" that I could think of that haddent been done yet.

[Countdown5]

Okay... So the build on this one is done. Finally got the lighting the way I like. Just have some materials to finish up and Ill have it off my plate.

[seanr]

Looking nice! Did you go back to the old larger windows?

[Countdown5]

I think you might have been thinking about the Coventry project (though I may be wrong). This set has always had those huge bay windows.

[seanr]

Ah, you're right. The two projects are so similar I can't keep them straight. LOL

[Lord_Trekie]

Hmm :S The attachment isn't displaying for me, but from what I can make out in the thumbnail, it looks awesome. :D

[Countdown5]

Hows this...
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachments/3d-wips/40970d1192167306-legacy-class-bridge-picture-2.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

Wow! You're on the header!

[Aresius]

and that image really deserves it. WOW

[Lord_Trekie]

Oh wow, that is indeed awesome Countdown :D Figures I switch browsers and it works perfect...

[Countdown5]

Wait... What?!?

Hey... Thanks everyone.

Although the downside is I promised myself that if I ever made he header that I would retire from 3D. So now I cant finish the rest of this project. :D

[Countdown5]

Okay.. so back to the bridge. Im playing with some object lights and getting a lot of spottyness. Any Cinema 4D users know what setting I would mot to fix this?

[cpthooker]

very nice work

[Dr-Timelord]

That is ALOT of blue...looks good though, have u tried other colours?

how does it look during Red Alert? :D

[Lonewriter]

as much as I've enjoyed. looking at your observation lounge I have been dying to see the bridge again. Good job on the lounge.

[Andrew March]

Okay.. so back to the bridge. Im playing with some object lights and getting a lot of spottyness. Any Cinema 4D users know what setting I would mot to fix this?

I take it your using radiosity with self illuminating surfaces, if you post your rad settings I'll see if I can solve your 'spottyness'.

Excellent looking, well deserving of the header.

[Countdown5]

I take it your using radiosity with self illuminating surfaces, if you post your rad settings I'll see if I can solve your 'spottyness'.

Excellent looking, well deserving of the header.

Been playing with the sample count and upping the min. res a little since those might be long surfaces that the computer could be viewing as minimal.

It helped a little but tacked another 15 minutes to my already 40 minute render time.

[Martocticvs]

This is looking very good so far.

The blotchyness you are getting is likely caused by either the accuracy or the max resolution being set too low. 70% accuracy should give pretty decent results so I would try upping the max resolution to 150 or 200 and see how it is then.

[Countdown5]

Nope... Still getting it. And tried it with the higher accuracy. Will keep playing

[Honman1]

Congratulations on the header. Well deserved!

[homerpalooza67]

congrats on the header- great job!

[seanr]

What about increasing the minimum resolution?

[Countdown5]

Actually what seemed to help was increasing the polly count on the emitter object.

Undno?!?

[Lord_Trekie]

Wierd. :S But I've got no idea how to do that anyway so that's not saying much... Hope we get to see a new render now that you've got it fixed?

[Countdown5]

Small update. Finished most of the chairs and placed them.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41563&stc=1&d=1192943664

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41564&stc=1&d=1192943664

The color scheme is not final. It will be more like what is seen in the lounge.

[Aresius]

looks very good.
The colour is a bit dark, bus you said you're not yet finished.

[Countdown5]

looks very good.
The colour is a bit dark, bus you said you're not yet finished.


That and I only have 2 work lights active right now... :D

[Aresius]

oh. External Support Mode, okay, I got it. :thumb:

[SDGreywolf]

CD5,
The Captain's Chair looks fantastic

[Countdown5]

Okay... So I started working in the color scheme from the lounge. Also managed to get the roof somewhat detailed and got the screen looking like something other than a cardboard cutout.

Ill try and get a raytrace render here sometime in the next day or so.

C&C as always...welcome

[Lonewriter]

I like the color and the roof.

[SDGreywolf]

Looking good...I quiver with anticipation for the finished product

[Lord_Trekie]

Oh I love it. :D

[Jack Skieczius]

oh, wow, CD5, i cant wait to get my hands on it.

i think i am sweeting now. oh my.

[Countdown5]

thanks... :D

[Countdown5]

Here's that raytrace render I promised... Still a little spotty though.

[Lord_Trekie]

OMG CD5 that looks freakin awesome :D

[kaden]

Here's that raytrace render I promised... Still a little spotty though.

I hope the end product will be brighter, I can barely see anything. the ship isn't a warship remember

[Countdown5]

I hope the end product will be brighter, I can barely see anything. the ship isn't a warship remember


It will... I still havent installed any of the round spots yet. Right now Im just trying to figure out the spots issue. :D

[Lonewriter]

looks good, can't wait to see it lit.

[seanr]

Looks fantastic. Hope you're able to get the kinks worked out, as that'll be one of the best looking bridge sets I've seen once you do. ;)

[seanr]

BTW, one suggestion for you:

Looks like you've got a metal area with inset lights surrounding the floor of the helm area, but that floor is on the same level as the surrounding area. You've currently got some serious line of sight problems as a result, such that the bottom quarter of the viewscreen is cut off for half the people on the bridge. I would highly recommend sinking the helm area at least one, but preferably two steps to alleviate that problem. The bridge is already laid out perfectly to enable that, so I don't think it'd change the overall design much at all.

[Countdown5]

BTW, one suggestion for you:

Looks like you've got a metal area with inset lights surrounding the floor of the helm area, but that floor is on the same level as the surrounding area. You've currently got some serious line of sight problems as a result, such that the bottom quarter of the viewscreen is cut off for half the people on the bridge. I would highly recommend sinking the helm area at least one, but preferably two steps to alleviate that problem. The bridge is already laid out perfectly to enable that, so I don't think it'd change the overall design much at all.

If you've ever seen the original build from before I came on the project, it had a recessed helm. For some reason Kaden and Galen wanted to pull that.

Ill see what I can do about the screen. Thanks...

[Galen]

Nice update dude. We removed the sink in as it would make the bridge platform seem too high, and there were too many steps between the command chair and the helm/ops station. BTW, great pics CD5! love what u;ve done :)

[Dr-Timelord]

I love the look and feel that the bridge has, cant wait to see it a bit brighter, but overall i like the look of it, very spacious

[Countdown5]

Okay... Since closer review of the original blueprint the Galen gave me of this bridge, I realized I screwed up the front consoles. There was supposed to be a gap between the two. WHY DIDN'T ANYONE SAY SOMETHING!!! :D So I fixed that and moded the stands.

Also think I have the lighting thing fixed.
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachments/3d-wips/42410d1194143366-legacy-class-bridge-picture-3.jpg

[Lord_Trekie]

LOL, at least it looks like it didn't take you long to fix. (I think it looks better the other way myself. ;))

[Lonewriter]

:eek!: This thing gets better looking each time I see it!

[Countdown5]

front too...

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachments/3d-wips/42421d1194149352-legacy-class-bridge-picture-4.jpg

[Aresius]

going to be a wonderful bridge

[Galen]

LOL Love the new updates Zack. Regarding the gap, it looked good both ways. So I kept quiet abt it. Ya gonna add thoes "test" pillars we discussed?

[Countdown5]

Yea... tonight.

[Jack Skieczius]

whooooo hoooo!

instant orgasm :)

thats all i have to say about that.

[SDGreywolf]

CD,
The Bridge looks really cool (the proper words escape me at this moment)...I know you are probably going to do it but don't forget the consoles for the XO's or the Advisor Officer's Chair next to the Captain's Chair.

[Countdown5]

CD,
The Bridge looks really cool (the proper words escape me at this moment)...I know you are probably going to do it but don't forget the consoles for the XO's or the Advisor Officer's Chair next to the Captain's Chair.


Yea... Galen and I were kinda discussing that. I'll get back to you. :D

[Sidriel]

ohh hmmm this bridge would go well with the Interceptor class Narsil made :D
nice bridge! i love it!

the blue lights i see below the forward stations, are they visual tingys that change with the ship's condition or do they remain blueish?

[Countdown5]

There like the lights that theaters place along walkways so you can find your way in the dark.

[Captain Robb]

Hey love the look of the Bridge, Cant wait to see it in action

[Hellsgate]

OMG!!!

*long winded string of self-censored but appropriately-reverent & admiring expletives.*

~bows down on my hands & knees & weeps. Worships CountDown5 & Galen as the New Kings of 3D, whom are every bit as good as the mesh master Himself, Mr. SeanR.~

[captainkirk]

Next time maybe you should put the pictures in a lower resolution, us dial-up users can't load them properly. But from what loaded it looked good, but what's with the rotten look on the walls?

[Nadesico]

For that big centre gap in the floor, why not set up one of those cool doohickey monitor/navigation stations like the original enterprise had between it's helm and navigation stations? It doesn't have to be as big or clunky, but a sort of screen/display that shows a navigation chart for the captain perhaps?

[Lonewriter]

I like that idea but not between the stations perhaps closer to the captain like Sulu's table (or whatever that was) on the Excelsior.

[Nadesico]

that's what i mean lone writer, where that step is between the railings would be perfect for it in my opinion.

[Hellsgate]

I love these bridge images. I wonder who's going to be the ship's first C.O.? I could see Kathrine Pulaski from the Enterprise-D as the C.O. of a Medically-dedicated Legacy-Class starship, named the U.S.S. (Nelson) Mandela, chasing the bluegills from TNG's "Conspiracy" episode back to their home base.

[Jack Skieczius]

if you post it they will come.

any updates CD5? or can i perhaps persuade you to continue on her?

[SDGreywolf]

CD5,
Please come back...We miss you

[Hellsgate]

Yes, please come back! I can't wait to see the Legacy's bridge finished!