3D Surak Warp Sled [Archive] - Scifi-Meshes.com

Tallguy

23rd Sep 2006, 06:20

I suspect it is a courier of some sort...

I got dangerously close to finishing something, so I had to throw another iron in the fire. But this is my first post-TOS mesh!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak001.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak001.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak002.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak002.jpg)

Taranis

23rd Sep 2006, 12:18

Great to see the full version of this model been built.. there are one or two around with the cab but no sled ..

Aresius

23rd Sep 2006, 13:20

and I have to say, it's looking really good...
it's right, it is used as a fast, low-warp, courier ship...
Vulcan origin, of course...

Tallguy

24th Sep 2006, 05:26

"I suspect it is a courier of some sort..." - Pavel Chekov, Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Heh.

Damn, this modern (27 year old) stuff is hard. All these little widgets and greebly things! BTW, if anyone has any good reference for this baby, I'd be ecstatic! Right now I have the pics from Andy Probert's site, the Kimble blueprints, and screengrabs from the movie.

Here's what I done today. Couple of hull hugging panels and a little pocket of indistinct greebling. Since I'm modeling with a mirror modifier the pocket shows up on both sides. It's almost the only asymetrical thing on the boat, so I'll fix it later.

mikala

24th Sep 2006, 05:29

Nice go on this!
I wanted to try this a long time ago but never got any good ref.
I certainly did not find the ref you have already.
Again very nice!

Tallguy

26th Sep 2006, 17:40

A little progress. Redid the widgets (now that I looked at them again with both eyes) and added the light panels around the docking ring. Also redid the lower edge of the tail to be (hopefully) more accurate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak004.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak004.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak005.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak005.jpg)

Freak

26th Sep 2006, 17:43

this is looking really good. I only been able to find the refances you already have.

Tallguy

27th Sep 2006, 16:20

Gaining by inches. Added a window and the docking pads. Also did up an "unmirrored mesh", that is, has one window and one set of greebles on the tail. These should have been done last, since they're the only asymetrical details, but they called to me, you know? Right now that docking port is singing my name, just cause I can use it on other TMP era Fed craft.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak007.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak007.jpg)

Freak

27th Sep 2006, 16:30

this just get better and better!

Taranis

27th Sep 2006, 16:46

Looking good :)

Tallguy

27th Sep 2006, 23:12

More windows (all of them, I think) and more details. Next is either the docking ring or a whole mess o' greebles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak008.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak008.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak009.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak009.jpg)

Atolm

27th Sep 2006, 23:18

Always liked the Surak...sweet job sofar mate :)

Cinnamon

27th Sep 2006, 23:38

Geez... get busy for a couple of days and look what happens...

Looks like another winner, Bill!

-jaime

Starship

28th Sep 2006, 00:12

The transport used by Mr. Spok... Looking good!
I still have that rare AMT plastic kit. If you need some scans, let me know. ;)

mcmiller

28th Sep 2006, 02:55

Nice to see someone tackle one of these, including the warp sled. The ship's design just shouts I'm fast

Fun ship to make, first model I ever finished, did it in TurboSilver no less, and damn hard with no internet references then! *tape in vcr -- freeze frame -- step five frames -- back twenty - ugh*

I seem to recall some more good photos of the actual model floating around in addition to the Probert site. But I neglected to bookmark them :confused:

Tallguy

28th Sep 2006, 04:27

Thanks for the comments guys. Yeah, still would be liking any refs I can get.

Greebles and a door.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak010.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak010.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak011.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak011.jpg)

Freak

28th Sep 2006, 10:30

dam that is nice. Do you have an Ent Refit, so you can do a pic or amination of the docking scene as that would be cool.

Tallguy

28th Sep 2006, 16:05

More greebles, and PHASERS! (That's right, in the 23rd century, it was logical to be armed!) You get into kind of a rythm with this stuff. Mind you, the top of the ship was never seen on screen!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak012.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak012.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak013.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak013.jpg)

Tallguy

28th Sep 2006, 16:07

dam that is nice. Do you have an Ent Refit, so you can do a pic or amination of the docking scene as that would be cool.Thanks. I have Dennis Bailey's refit. It's not in anything approaching the same scale at the moment, but when it's done, I'll have to do something like that.

Tallguy

28th Sep 2006, 20:00

Doesn't this look COZY? (I eyeballed the scale. The shuttle might actually be a little SMALL.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak015.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak015.jpg)

Aresius

28th Sep 2006, 22:47

hmh...
yes, it looks fine...
i like it...

Cinnamon

29th Sep 2006, 03:13

Doesn't this look COZY? (I eyeballed the scale. The shuttle might actually be a little SMALL.)

Yeah... Actually, I think it's a LOT small... those docking collars are a solid two and a half meters in diameter, IIRC... Still, any excuse to see that shuttle bay of yours, I'll take. ^_^

Looking really good!

-jaime
(who has now modeled a floor! - That Melkotian Buoy can't be far off. ^_-)

USS Mariner

29th Sep 2006, 04:08

Two pieces of artwork you might find useful.

http://www.stguardian.to/mixed/predesign/vulcanshuttletmp.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8311/ap2005int01pic032mx8.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8311/ap2005int01pic032mx8.jpg)

The long range shuttle is the Surak's, BTW. It ain't really supposed to be a ship-board version. Also, feel free to add side doors. Andy would. ;)

Freak

29th Sep 2006, 10:17

looking great but I don't thing it would fit in the shuttle by. as mention above the airlock is two metter high.

Taranis

29th Sep 2006, 10:38

Roliba

6th Oct 2006, 18:20

Nice work TG. Coming along nicely!

Oovebei

7th Oct 2006, 09:12

Thats fantastic - right on the ball, welcome to the Movie era :thumb:

Tallguy

7th Dec 2006, 02:56

Wow, time flies! Here's the latest. The shuttle is done, near as darn it (need to add thrusters, but those may be textured), so it's on to the warp sled.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak016.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak016.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak017.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak017.jpg)

mikala

7th Dec 2006, 03:08

Definitely looking the part!

Forcemaster2000

7th Dec 2006, 03:44

Great looking Tallguy! Thought this one had permanently disappeared. Nice to see it still cruising along!

Dallidas

7th Dec 2006, 04:02

looks very nicely modeled!:thumb: but what is it exactly?

pacal

7th Dec 2006, 04:02

Keep it up man this is really good work.

pacal

mikala

7th Dec 2006, 04:05

It's the shuttle that delivers Mr Spock to the Enterprise in one of the early movies Dallidas.

Dallidas

7th Dec 2006, 04:13

It's the shuttle that delivers Mr Spock to the Enterprise in one of the early movies Dallidas.

that explains why i have never seen this before.:lol:

mikala

7th Dec 2006, 04:16

Still... a wicked design I wish they would have used more.

Dallidas

7th Dec 2006, 04:19

it seems a bit weak structurally o mena. then again so does almost every other star trek design:smirk:

mikala

7th Dec 2006, 04:21

I don't know about that. Ever take a look at what straps the boosters and the Space shuttle together?

Dallidas

7th Dec 2006, 04:25

I don't know about that. Ever take a look at what straps the boosters and the Space shuttle together?

i never said that didnt look weak.:thumb:

Roliba

7th Dec 2006, 06:48

Nice to see it back in action. I can't wait to see 'er all textured up, mate. ;)

Oovebei

7th Dec 2006, 08:13

Yes she is looking very accurate indeed, you have made a very smooth transition to the Move era. Very nice work

Freak

7th Dec 2006, 09:46

Looking great Tallguy!

Chanur

7th Dec 2006, 17:14

Cool tallguy!! I'm glad, that you finished her :)

Tallguy

7th Dec 2006, 17:44

Great looking Tallguy! Thought this one had permanently disappeared. Nice to see it still cruising along!I eventually finish everything. "Eventually" covers a lot of ground, of course.

that explains why i have never seen this before.You need to fix that! For the eye candy if nothing else.

Nice to see it back in action. I can't wait to see 'er all textured up, mate. Me too. The Texturing Adventure is Just Beginning.

Cool tallguy!! I'm glad, that you finished her *sputter* Finished? Oh, sadly not quite. The warp nacelles have a lot of work to go. But I'm gaining on it. Then I can put THREE models in the "Finished" column. (Yes, she will be made public.)

A teeny bit of progress...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak018.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak018.jpg)

Tallguy

8th Dec 2006, 15:00

Here's yesterday's progress. Modeling of the outboard side of the warp nacelles is done. On to the inboard. Cut cut cut - gotta love the knife tool. I've been told that the new boolean tools don't suck anymore either. An adventure as always.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak019.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak019.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak020.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak020.jpg)

Freak

8th Dec 2006, 15:05

Nice very nice.
I have no idea how to use the knife tool, but when I get to that stage I will figuer it out.

backstept

8th Dec 2006, 15:13

I've always liked this ship
fantastic work, man :thumb:

Taranis

8th Dec 2006, 15:36

Great Work ...

Tallguy

8th Dec 2006, 21:45

A little more progress. The engines are just about done, some of it will be finished when I start texturing. Left to do: Detailing on the underside, leading, and trailing edges of the sled, and RCTs all over both parts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak026.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak026.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak027.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak027.jpg)

Forcemaster2000

8th Dec 2006, 22:39

Warp sled's looking fantastic! This ship has always been a stand-out for me, even though it was only seen for a few seconds in the first film!

scifieric

11th Dec 2006, 01:12

Oh man. Why do I never see Tallguy start a project? I always stumble upon something nearly finished!

Sweet work Tallguy. You impress as always.

Tallguy

11th Dec 2006, 03:30

Oh man. Why do I never see Tallguy start a project? I always stumble upon something nearly finished!

Sweet work Tallguy. You impress as always.Thanks SFE. You want to see a "started" project, go to http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/14153-u-s-s-ingram-not-you.html

Tallguy

20th Dec 2006, 18:42

Here's a smidge of an update. Oh, how I love modeling bits that were never seen on SCREEN! (aaaargh.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak030.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak030.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak031.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak031.jpg)

Tallguy

20th Dec 2006, 19:25

Annnnd a couple more. An angle I liked and a couple of kinda-action shots. Hey, for TMP, they're frantic!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak032.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak032.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak033.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak033.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak034.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak034.jpg)

Starship

20th Dec 2006, 19:47

Fine job !

Jayru

20th Dec 2006, 20:28

beautiful, Tallguy - simply beautiful :thumb:

Chanur

20th Dec 2006, 20:54

Permission to come aboard?? ;)
Good work tallguy

Taranis

20th Dec 2006, 22:23

Great work on that TallGuy

Forcemaster2000

21st Dec 2006, 01:10

Looking great Tallguy! I don't see any details that look out of place...so you must be hitting the nail on the head!

Freak

21st Dec 2006, 14:07

Looks great Tallguy I plan on watching TMP as it is being show over Christmas.

Basill

22nd Dec 2006, 15:13

Truly impressive. I can hear the flutey-ripply "Spock Arrival" music just looking at the images. :thumb:

Tallguy

22nd Dec 2006, 17:10

Truly impressive. I can hear the flutey-ripply "Spock Arrival" music just looking at the images. :thumb:Yeah, that tends to haunt my dreams these days. ;)

Anyone else notice that the shape of the engine "nozzles" was completely WRONG? Well, last night I did. Heh. Fixed. With a fancy new engine cover and a nice engine glow. Gotta remember how I did this for when I do other TMP impulse engines some day.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak035.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak035.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak036.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak036.jpg)

Jayru

22nd Dec 2006, 17:34

Very nice work - makes me wish we had seen more of this shuttle/ship...

DAve

22nd Dec 2006, 18:12

Nice mesh :thumb:

Where did you get the schematic you used as a backdrop?

If you created it can you post it? (pretty please :))

DAve

JustinDixon

22nd Dec 2006, 19:45

Hey fellow az bud, great work so far!

Forcemaster2000

22nd Dec 2006, 23:23

I hadn't noticed...of course I can't remember the last time I've seen any shots of the movie model either!

GuitarEC

23rd Dec 2006, 07:26

Tom,

You gotta let me play with this with my Ent-Refit mesh.

Drop me a line,

Eric "GuitarEC"

Tallguy

23rd Dec 2006, 22:18

Merry Christmas, gang. Nothing new model-wise, but a quick little animation to take her round the block. See y'all when I get back! (Click the image to see the movie!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_VulcShuttle01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/?action=view&current=VulcShuttle01.flv)

XFozzboute

23rd Dec 2006, 22:51

She's a beauty. I just watched the movies a few days ago. Great work.

scifieric

23rd Dec 2006, 22:59

No I did not notice that anything was wrong (Zim: YOU'RE MAKING IT UP!) but I did notice your fun animation!

Thanks Tallguy and Merry Christmas to you too.

Forcemaster2000

24th Dec 2006, 20:53

Neat little animation...next time just add the 'sled' warping out of the shot at the last moment!

Lt. Washburn

28th Dec 2006, 07:10

Looking good. You have this link, right?

LS_Shuttle-Look (http://probertdesigns.com/Folder_DESIGN/LR_Shuttle-3.html)

Chanur

28th Dec 2006, 16:05

Hey, thanx for the link :)

Well, what to say? What about: "Poetry in motion!!" ;)

CrimsonLine

30th Dec 2006, 01:04

Hammina, hammina! Love this little beauty, TG!

Freak

31st Dec 2006, 00:54

just seen your animation, man see looking good!

Hope you had a good Xams and have a great New Year!

Tallguy

3rd Jan 2007, 22:05

Thrusters! I'm sure I've forgotten something, but off the top of my head, the shuttle section is done!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak037.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak037.jpg)

Taranis

3rd Jan 2007, 22:19

looks good .. :)

GuitarEC

4th Jan 2007, 21:58

Hey Bill,

Not to burst your warp-bubble, but the item you are sure to be missing is the main navigational strobe (located on the top-front edge, just starboard of centerline).

:runs:

Eric "GuitarEC"

Tallguy

2nd Mar 2007, 23:13

Been a while since I posted. Here's the little progress I've made... (yes, I added the strobe, GEC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak041.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak041.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_Surak042.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/Surak042.jpg)

Forcemaster2000

3rd Mar 2007, 00:16

Glad to see you're still working on this one! Not that I thought you might not!

Looking good! Just going by memory, your textures look spot-on!

Starship

3rd Mar 2007, 01:18

The texture work is very well done, but you need some dirty. ;)

seanr

3rd Mar 2007, 12:26

Now that looks superb! Nice work!

Andrew March

3rd Mar 2007, 17:29

Very nice work indeed.

scifieric

4th Mar 2007, 00:36

Fantastic work Tallguy! I'm glad you came back to this beauty.

Tallguy

29th Mar 2008, 14:49

Wow, just started looking at this again. I've got a lot of work to do. The modeling is ok, the textures on the nacelles look good, but ouch, the top needs to about be re-done!

OTOH, I guess I'm that much closer to the way they do it for "real" because once we figured out how she would be shot I quit working on all of the "out of sight" stuff.

So here's how she wound up in her star turn in Star Trek: Of Gods and Men (act 2):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_V1.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/V1.png) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_V2.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/V2.png) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_V3.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/V3.png) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/th_V4.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/wpthomas007/1701/Surak/V4.png)

I modeled and rendered the shuttle and the tractor beam, Roliba modeled the Conqueror, and Henry Gibbens did the rocks, all the rest of the rendering, and composited the whole thing.

Freak

29th Mar 2008, 17:45

Hi Bill, Have not seen you post here in awhile.

Nice Pic's by the way. I take it everything was done in Blender?

Tallguy

29th Mar 2008, 17:53

Hi Bill, Have not seen you post here in awhile.

Nice Pic's by the way. I take it everything was done in Blender?Thanks. No posts because I've been working on OGAM and then suffering from burnout. (Roliba is apparently immune.)

The shuttle and the tractor beam was Blender. Everything else is Lightwave (from a rendering standpoint).