Hybrid Enterprise

[CrimsonLine]

Hi, y'all! In case you weren't following this thread on the old SFM, here's a rundown.

This ship was designed in Photoshop by Doug Schramm, and had made its way around the internet, drawing praise and (some) scorn.

Here's Doug's original design:
http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/HybridThreeView.jpg

I thought it was cool. So I asked Doug for his permission to model her in 3D! Been working on her now for many months. Here's where she's at now:

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise029.png

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise033.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise083.jpg

And we're only allowed 4 images per post! Yeeps!

[CrimsonLine]

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise092.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise134.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise148.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise159.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise190.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

Here are some renders I've done since SFM went down:

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise202.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise203.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise204.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

Also, people weren't liking seeing the TMP workbee and my Musketaquid Class Shuttle in the Hybrid Hangarbay. So this weekend, I blocked in a rough design for a Hybrid-era workbee.

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridWorkbee001.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridWorkbee002.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridWorkbee003.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridWorkbee004.jpg

[CrimsonLine]

And one more:

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridWorkbee005.jpg

That brings us up to date!

[Prime_8]

oh my too much! sweet ..

condensed CL goodness.

It feels like x-mass all these good threasd starting fresh with best of's filling at tops .. heheh

:: giddy mode ::

[Zardoz]

Nice to see again you Hybrid Enterprise .... looks very nice!

[CrimsonLine]

Just call me Santy Claus! :)

[McGig]

I want this ship. Plan and simple. It's on the list of things I want, right after a Constitution Refit and a TARDIS.

[Maverick Eagle]

the mighty workerbee its older then many of the ships, docks, and stations it serves at.


Your ship has advanced so much. Its no surprise that people dedicated to the original series can't see a modified version of the enterprise. As far as there concerned its hearesy. I think your enterprise of course is just perfect and reflects in our current ideas of model building and imagination of what the ship looks like if the series was made in our time. It also shows that people outside paramount have more imagination then they do. Despite what people say the NX is cannon. so its design influence will naturally decend through the trek timeline.

The original series was made during a time when space ship designs were still smooth and clean with no real detail although the Enterprise was one of the first to show detail on ships. Next came the odessey with showed a new design influence. jump forward to the star trek movies and we see a Refurbished Enterprise which uses a combination of the classic enterprise using the new detail and design influences making the ships more detailed. This design influence is then seen in all other Star trek vessels since.

your ship as I had originally posted in the orginal forum represents the modern interpretation of what we (YOU) belive the enterprise to be. It fills the gap between the NX and the TOS movie comfortably.

As far as I'm concerned this Enterprise and the TOS one is one and the same. the only difference is one is more detailed then the other.


After all its really unfair to judge a persons design idea from one of a TV series that is almost 40 years old and made in a time when cars still had fins and everything was nice and shiny.

[Ozylot]

Great work there... would be great to see some textures on the outside :D
Someday... :D

[Matress_of_evil]

As far as I'm concerned this Enterprise and the TOS one is one and the same. the only difference is one is more detailed then the other.

I totally agree, Maverick Eagle. I just think of the "difference" as being the improvement in camera resolution since the 60's, rather than them being physically different models.

Technology improves over time afterall...

...

I'm glad to see you've brough your model back, CL. I don't know what i'd do without my regular fix of pictures of this baby. :D

[Choo1701]

Good to see her back :D

Shuttlebay and Work Bee is looking nice

[CrimsonLine]

Ozylot: Someday...

Mav: Thanks, man. Actually, I love the design of the TOS Enterprise. This ship is in no way a scold to Matt Jeffries or to TOS. The Original E started it all, man. She's a beautiful lady. I just liked this design, too - and wanted to run with it.

Thanks, guys!

[Prime_8]

hey CL what happend to teh Buck Rogers project ??
Am i nuts or did you work on one .. ??
-- ok i'm nuts we know that but ... LOL

[scifieric]

Oh, he worked on that alright plus his own take on the original version of the USS Enteprise and others! Glad to see you back here CL!

How goes the post-graduation employment and family life?

[Dann-O]

Really nice work on this. I want your blender skills. Because I can't spare the change for the other programs.

[CrimsonLine]

hey CL what happend to teh Buck Rogers project ??
Am i nuts or did you work on one .. ??
-- ok i'm nuts we know that but ... LOL

I finished the Starfighter project - it's been released, and ported into Lightwave and Max - and the animation project wound up being more than my lappy could handle.

Thanks, Eric - post-graduation is going well, though I kinda feel like I'm treading water until the move. We're moving Memorial Day weekend, and the job starts June 1. Superman Returns June 30. Baby due July 6. Busy few months ahead... :)

Dann-O - Blender skills are made, not born, Padawan. Practice, you must! Conquer, you will. My butt you will kick!

[BorgMan]

Awwww, that workbee is sweet :D It's going great CL, the docking port is cool too. It almost looks steamtrek ;)

[Freak]

looks Great CL!

[Dark Saber]

I really enjoy watching this thread. You have created a great ship. Keep it up!!!! To bad this was not the Original TOS enterprise. I would of loved to see her on the screen.

[baxart]

Lookin' good!!

[Ramiel]

I don't remember if I've said before, but...
If you need help with texturing, let me know!

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, guys.

Ramiel - burningman (the original designer of the Hybrid) has dibs, but if he backs out, you're welcome to it. I love your retexturing of Vektor's Connie.

[perry171]

i really like that workbee, it looks almost do-able today!

[Ramiel]

Well I hope you will able to use the burningman textures (they are sweet), but if you can't...

(Do you still remember the retexturing of the Vektor's Connie? I'm impressed!)

[JoeRalat]

Sweet Updates. :D

[SGA-3D]

Really cool, CL!

[backstept]

Connie! Connie! Connie!


haha glad to see this back :D

[Oovebei]

Whew you are still here and the ship is still with you - I have missed one of my coveted advisors on all thing Blender ;)

[CrimsonLine]

(Do you still remember the retexturing of the Vektor's Connie? I'm impressed!)

Remember it? It's still one of my favorite desktops (on the Mac, you can rotate through a folder of desktops - your connie retexturing shows up every day).


Whew you are still here and the ship is still with you - I have missed one of my coveted advisors on all thing Blender

I want to see your progress on making an animation!

[Tallguy]

Good grief - four pages already!

The workbee looks nice. It's funny - as ENTy and 2001 (the year, not the movie) as your refit looks, the workbee looks like a sand rail kitbashed with a Bell Rocketpack. Very 60's. I love it.

[CrimsonLine]

Yeah - SFM is hopping at the moment!

[backstept]

I'm not feeling the new workbee yet . . .
I guess I'll have to see where you go with it :D

[Jonny Boy]

Thank the Lords of Kobol your back CL. I was hoping to see the Hybrid back online soon. I'm kinda liking the workbee. Can't wait to see more. :)

[Dr-Timelord]

Yahee i don't have to skiff though 78 pages now.

a small plus side

[Tallguy]

Today is like "The Very Best of SFM" or "SFM Concentrate"!

[backstept]

Today is like "The Very Best of SFM" or "SFM Concentrate"!
just add water!
. . . or maybe coffee :D

[Euripedes]

I always liked this thread. Ship looks like she's coming along nicely. Can't wait to see more pics. Great work, CrimsonLine!

[Forcemaster2000]

Figures your thread would leap to the head of the pack CL!

Awsome looking hybrid workbee, I like, I like!

[Romu]

Glad to see this thread is back ;)

[Oovebei]

I want to see your progress on making an animation!

I am working on it now - even made a very simple trek ship to practice on while I try and work out how to make the cockpit of the Hawk Fighter (Deformation Lattice?, not exactly going too well at the moment) ;)

[Yvon Hawke]

I'm wondering who's going to jump on the conversion bandwagon once this is complete. ;)

[CrimsonLine]

I hope somebody is.

Thanks, everyone! I'm not sold on the new workbee yet, either. It seems less functional and more gimmicky than the TMP model. It's hard to see where RCS thrusters would fit. And it's hard to see where one would mount external equipment like arms and cargo containers and the like. So I'm not sure it'll follow this pattern exactly.

One thing's for sure though. If it's got a glass cockpit, it'll need...a pilot.

[Tallguy]

One thing's for sure though. If it's got a glass cockpit, it'll need...a pilot.That's why you never let those little buggers anywhere near the camera.

[Oovebei]

I hope somebody is.

Thanks, everyone! I'm not sold on the new workbee yet, either. It seems less functional and more gimmicky than the TMP model. It's hard to see where RCS thrusters would fit. And it's hard to see where one would mount external equipment like arms and cargo containers and the like. So I'm not sure it'll follow this pattern exactly.

One thing's for sure though. If it's got a glass cockpit, it'll need...a pilot.

What's wrong with the heavily tinted glass effect? - the glare from that sun can be fierce :cool:

[Tallguy]

Then you can add spolers and some nitrous and some KILLER BASS, dawg!

[backstept]

Then you can add spolers and some nitrous and some KILLER BASS, dawg!
don't forget the 'go faster stripes' and the fuzzy dice!

[Meshfan]

Beautiful is the only word applicable to this picture. The detailing on the exterior and interior of the ship is astounding. Superb work.

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, guys - yeah, I love pimp'n my ride!

I've been planning to make a person for this ship for quite some time, though. Ever since baxart came up with his uniform ideas.

[burningman]

I don't remember if I've said before, but...
If you need help with texturing, let me know!

Hey mate..I'm not married to the textures...I'd take a stab at them but I have no clue how Blender handles them and my UVW skills are weak at best. So my progress is next to nill
Feel free to take a stab at them...I'd love to see what you come up with.

Love the workbee Denes

[Ramiel]

I have no clue how Blender handles them
Me too, but I'm sure that CL will help you with some explanations...

my UVW skills are weak at best
Really? I don't think so:D

Feel free to take a stab at them...I'd love to see what you come up with.
Why not make a "group project"? Could be interesting...

[BoogerMc]

Why not make a "group project"? Could be interesting...

Cl has experience with group projects. How do you think he got started on here.:D

[Lee80]

CL the ship looks awsome. cant wait to see her finished..:D

[CrimsonLine]

Cl has experience with group projects. How do you think he got started on here.:D

Actually, little known fact: I AM a group project. :)

[Ozylot]

Thanks, guys - yeah, I love pimp'n my ride!

I've been planning to make a person for this ship for quite some time, though. Ever since baxart came up with his uniform ideas.

Person? what? who? What do you mean? like a captain or crew or something?

[Tovette]

I like the little tug in the shuttle bay. That's sweet. I'm glad this thread is back.

[prfz00m]

Yes, the CL cliffnotes are cool. SFM's loss is regrettable, but it gives us a chance to see an online community rebuild from the ground up.

Now i'm gonna see if Larsen's Galactica is back, it'll be much shorter this time.

[Brickhead]

Masterful job as I would expect from you CL.

[Trekcross]

Nice Crimson, does he have a storyline about this version? Just for my interest.

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, guys. Yep, Ozylot - I will be making a crewman and a crewwoman that'll both have interchangeable uniform colors, so that they can be placed at points in the hangarbay or inside windows to make the shots cooler looking.

[CrimsonLine]

Trekcross - nope; the design philosophy is "what if ENT really was a prequel, and Matt Jeffries was to design the 1701 today?" but I have no backstory.

I think baxart and Capt. Hunter came up with a backstory for it, but that's really not my interest.

[Trekcross]

Ahh, Most interesting...*grumbles not a 5 view* but I will await your final 3d version. Actualy it is an interesting theory, I missed this in the pre crash. but I had a hard time keeping up with WIP's as there where sooo many going.

Keep up the good work dude.

[Mauiman]

I had once knew where that one craizy site of the floor plans to the ship but it seems like if the site has been taken down.

[burningman]

Me too, but I'm sure that CL will help you with some explanations...

Really? I don't think so:D

Why not make a "group project"? Could be interesting...

A group project could be cool. If somone can get the UVW's made we'd be in the house.

[Doctorisn]

CL, good to see the Hybrid flying again! ::thumb::

The workbee looks pretty good, though IMO the cockpit is a little oversized.

Looking forward to more updates!

[Capt.Hunter]

There she is, not so gone as we were led to believe.


Well it's good to be back with you guys as we keep an eye on CL's progress.

[williethefool]

CrimsonLine I have to ask if you are going to repost your Buck Rogers fighters?:)

[Raideen]

:) :) Crimsonline - Good to have this thread back on... She still looks sweeeet

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, guys.

williethefool - yes, I certainly plan to repost a great many things. In the next half hour, actually. I finally have a block of time to do it.

Been very busy at the CrimsonLine Household, and so not much modeling (or anything free-timey) has gotten done.

[Tallguy]

Hey, what happened to the animation?

[CrimsonLine]

Haven't had the time to even look at it. But it's the next thing on the board.

[evil_genius_180]

Yay!!! I am a TOS guru. Love the show (have 'em all on DVD) and love the ships. However, I'm not one of those that is opposed to change. So, it's great to see the old girl getting a makeover. :D

edit: I got so excited I almost forgot to ask an important question. What font are you using for the lettering and is it the same one they used on Enterprise? Since I'm doing pre-Ent work, I'm not sure the font I'm using is the right one, but yours looks good.

[CrimsonLine]

On reposting the Buck Rogers Starfighter - just realized, the Meshes section is not up yet. When it is, I'll put the Starfighter, the Mass Class, and all my meshes there. Including my Superhero logo meshes...

[Starship]

On reposting the Buck Rogers Starfighter - just realized, the Meshes section is not up yet. When it is, I'll put the Starfighter, the Mass Class, and all my meshes there. Including my Superhero logo meshes...
Can you send me Wilma Deering as a separated mesh? I can try to convert it to max too. ;)

[CrimsonLine]

Can do. Probably not tonight, though.

[CrimsonLine]

Out of commission for a few days; we're packing up our apartment from now until Friday, and moving to Rochester, NY Saturday and Sunday. I haven't had a minute to spend on modeling all this past week, what with finishing up details at work, good-bye parties, and helping my son adjust to the idea of moving.

Sorry, guys! This model is a priority for me, and at the earliest point, I'll be back at work on her.

[Freak]

good luck on the move.

[B.J.]

I feel for you, since I'm in the middle of a move myself. I've been living in a hotel for the past month since my family had to stay behind so my son can finish Kindergarten. At least you'll have your family with you - trust me, it's rough.

[scifieric]

Good luck CrimsonLine and BJ_O. I've moved enough to know that I hated it each time.

[baxart]

Good luck!!

[CrimsonLine]

It's one of my least favorite things to do.

On the plus side, according to my e-mail in box, I keep winning the European lottery, so soon I'll be rolling in the dough! :) And I never even entered! But those kind souls do a random selection from peoples' e-mail addresses! I'm rich! How do they make money on this kind of deal? Volume.

[scifieric]

I'm shocked! I've never seen sarcasm in your posts before. LOL

Good to know you're human, CrimsonLine. I hope things are going well with the move.

[Forcemaster2000]

Good luck with the move CL, I hope you're happy with the area you're moving to! See you in the funny pages when you're settled. :)

[evil_genius_180]

Yeah, good luck on the move. If I were you, I'd just use the Enterprise's tractor beam to move everything at once. :D Unless, of course, it won't be installed until Tuesday....

[CrimsonLine]

:) You guys are a bunch of living legends!

[evil_genius_180]

Good luck CrimsonLine and BJ_O. I've moved enough to know that I hated it each time.

Have you ever served in the military? You move in that more than a fiending crackhead. It's just nutty. :p I moved about 10 times in my first year.

[scifieric]

Good lord no! LOL I'm about as nonmilitary as a person can get. Can you say couch potato? :D

However my Dad moved from town to town a lot while we were growing up. Indiana, Wisconsin, New York and New Jersey. I've moved to Pennsylvania, my brother back to Indiana, my Dad to Georgia then Rhode Island and my sister stayed in New Jersey.

Our family motto seems to be: Scattering to the four winds

[evil_genius_180]

Yeah, I'm the anti-army, that's why I got myself kicked out. :p No chance of inactive recall.

[nhall]

Hehehehehe... :D Good game, man. Good game. They "tricked" me into six years -- no bonus :p

Still, though, I can't complain.

Cheers,
Nick

[shipfisher]

A bit late to the well wishing party, but good luck on the move and safe travels CL(where's a transporter when you need one?). The lights of Rochester seemed pretty enough when you could see them on a clear night from across the lake in Toronto. (Live in Auckland now - guess I'd need a really clear night and a couple'a dozen atmospheric temperature inversions to see those lights now:D )

[evil_genius_180]

Hehehehehe... :D Good game, man. Good game. They "tricked" me into six years -- no bonus :p

Still, though, I can't complain.

Cheers,
Nick

Now, where have I heard that before? :rolleyes:

You work with computers, right? That's not bad. I was Airborne Infantry. Nothing's worse than jumping out of a C130 with gear that weighs 2/3 as much as you do and then schlepping it 15 miles back to the CP on foot. I have a bad back and bad knees thanks to those fun times. :cool:

[burningman]

Good luck on the move mate!

[Raideen]

:) All the best on the move. :)

Did you get a new job?

[Aresius]

wow...
great mix between Ent and TOS...

that's truly a great mixture...

[CrimsonLine]

:) All the best on the move. :)

Did you get a new job?

Yep. I start as the pastor of Gates Alliance Church (http://www.gateschurch.com) on June 1.

Packing is almost done; my wife and I are exhausted. But it's been a good few days together - no kid, no mothers, just us. We'll finish up the packing today, and tomorrow our friends arrive to help load the truck. The forecast says rain, I am praying otherwise.

[scifieric]

Good luck Denes. We'll keep you in our thoughts.

Of course, I can't wait until you're settled and rendering new animations with your virtual beauty!

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks!

Packing is done. Now we can chill until tomorrow.

[Dr-Timelord]

Still a great looking model :D



( still feeling a bit of an ass over the Ent-B issue..)

[Oovebei]

Thanks!

Packing is done. Now we can chill until tomorrow.

You have time to chill? - good luck mate ;) , had a look at Gates Alliance Church - Nice looks big. Are you nervous or excited?

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks! We are both very nervous and very excited. This is a whole new thing for us. But we believe God is in it, so we know things will work out well. The church is in a big building, but the congregation is small at the moment. Only about 20 people in a sanctuary that seats ten times that many. But we are psyched that we can be there when God turns things around (and we hope he does).

If you want to see our home, put the address into google Earth or whatever that Microsoft version is. Our parsonage shares the driveway with the church.

[scifieric]

So, you're getting in on the ground floor ... so to speak. Congratulations!

[BoogerMc]

Do me one favor Cl, pass along Gods wisdom and knowledge through his words. Don't get like so many others that I have known in your position and put your own personal opinions to them. (I'll probably get in trouble for this, but oh well) I've always been told that God created the Bible so we may learn from him, not so we can learn what others think he wants us to learn. I hope you know what I mean by that statement.

[Raideen]

Quoted by BoogerMc
Do me one favor Cl, pass along Gods wisdom and knowledge through his words. Don't get like so many others that I have known in your position and put your own personal opinions to them. (I'll probably get in trouble for this, but oh well) I've always been told that God created the Bible so we may learn from him, not so we can learn what others think he wants us to learn. I hope you know what I mean by that statement.


Amen to that!

[shipfisher]

Seconded amen on BoogerMc's comments.

(Although I get the impression you preach with that in mind already CL)

P.S. Nice looking grounds in front of the church - you could throw a ball with the lad after services are done

[CrimsonLine]

Do me one favor Cl, pass along Gods wisdom and knowledge through his words. Don't get like so many others that I have known in your position and put your own personal opinions to them. (I'll probably get in trouble for this, but oh well) I've always been told that God created the Bible so we may learn from him, not so we can learn what others think he wants us to learn. I hope you know what I mean by that statement.

I hope to. It's impossible to completely eliminate personal opinion and experience from preaching. But I firmly believe that giving people access to what Denes thinks is thin gruel compared to giving people access to what God thinks.


P.S. Nice looking grounds in front of the church - you could throw a ball with the lad after services are done

To quote raideen - Amen to that! :)

This is probably my last post from South Hamilton, MA. Tonight, we unplug my wife's computer (our internet server) and it looks like Frontier Communications won't have us hooked up until Tuesday or Wednesday at the earliest. So, next time you hear from me, I should have changed my Location tag to Rochester, NY. See you on the flip side!

[Capt.Hunter]

Trekcross - nope; the design philosophy is "what if ENT really was a prequel, and Matt Jeffries was to design the 1701 today?" but I have no backstory.

I think baxart and Capt. Hunter came up with a backstory for it, but that's really not my interest.

Not really backstory. It's a RPG that when everything is ready we're going to
essentially redo the original series. Haven't decided if we're going to make Enterprise actually part of the timeline as yet.

[Capt.Hunter]

I hope to. It's impossible to completely eliminate personal opinion and experience from preaching. But I firmly believe that giving people access to what Denes thinks is thin gruel compared to giving people access to what God thinks.



To quote raideen - Amen to that! :)

This is probably my last post from South Hamilton, MA. Tonight, we unplug my wife's computer (our internet server) and it looks like Frontier Communications won't have us hooked up until Tuesday or Wednesday at the earliest. So, next time you hear from me, I should have changed my Location tag to Rochester, NY. See you on the flip side!


I pray everything goes well for ya CL, and look forward to seeing ya back on.

[baxart]

I think baxart and Capt. Hunter came up with a backstory for it, but that's really not my interest.

Trekcross - I did uniforms, insignia, a crew and a little backstory, I'm not sure what Capt. Hunter did, musta missed it. :o I've got a chapter of a Capt. April story that will be a prelude to my UniVerse stuff (when my proofreader gets it back to me, sheesh!) and a few other ideas. A ship this cool needed uniforms and a crew! I even bought a shirt and got a quote on a patch! :eek: (Am I a geek or what?)
I'm rebooting trek with my UniVerse stuff. First I've heard of the RPG idea.

Good luck with the move & the preachin', CL!

[Capt.Hunter]

I had my own independant project going on, and still is although rather slowly.
hmmm I think maybe I should bring that thread back to life now.

[Four Mad Men]

Good luck on the move my friend. Looking forward to seeing this completely fleshed out.

[BoogerMc]

I hope to. It's impossible to completely eliminate personal opinion and experience from preaching. But I firmly believe that giving people access to what Denes thinks is thin gruel compared to giving people access to what God thinks.

I think you misunderstood my point. There is nothing wrong with relating your personal exprience to the Lord's teachings, the problem is when you force your personal opinions on your congregation and use God as a reason. An example: Years ago I attended a church where the preacher and his wife had there own ideas of what was accepted by God and what was not. These beliefs were based on their personal feelings not the actual words they used to back them up.

There is no way one can teach without first having experienced that which one teaches. Those that serve the Lord best are those that have turned from Him at one time and found their way back. I have always liked the Clint Eastwood movie Pale Rider and the most famous line in it, "A man has got to know his limitations". We all reach a point in our lives where we have no idea which way to go, so we turn to that which we have faith in, be it God or Allah or Budda, whatever, we seek guidance from a higher power.

Before I get too involved in this dialogue, good luck on your move, best wishes to you and your family and the family yet to be and hope to see more of the ship as time progresses. I've been working on mine, but have been so tired at night I couldn't post anything, but that will change soon hopefully. See you soon.

[al3d]

Can we get an update here..LOL..i had to go back to page 1 to see an image!!!!....less chatter..more picts..:)

[CrimsonLine]

Yessir, Mr. al, sir.

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise205.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise206.jpg

I've been working on transfering the lighting from ray shadows to buffered shadows. Still some work to do. I also added physical lighting elements in the repair shop. Those will come in the hangarbay, too.

On the move front, we are all moved in (but not all unpacked). The big snag has been - of course - our internet service. Right now, I am accessing e-mail and the web through dialup, and it's SLOOOOOOW compared to my old cable modem. Long story short, high-speed internet is about two weeks away for us.

So far in the job, I've been unpacking and working on my first sermon for tomorrow. Hasn't left much time for modeling. It'll come, though. It'll come.

[freepoo]

C:eek:L!

[Capt.Hunter]

Love the progress so far CL :)

[Professor Moriarty]

Ooooooh! Ahhhhh! :cool: :thumb:

[Tallguy]

I love the asymetrical shuttle deck.

Congrats on the move - good luck with the sermon. Really good luck with the unpacking!

[scifieric]

Congratulations on moving in and sorry to hear about the dial-up. Nice update CL. Glad to see you back.

[Forcemaster2000]

That shot of the shuttlebay looking in from the outside is awsome! And your shadows have improved 1000% :thumb:

Glad the move is going well, and glad you're back where you belong - SFM!

[backstept]

woohoo I see stairs! I don't remember any specific use of stairs outside of Enterprise in modern trek
you'd think stairs between decks would be much more efficient than turbolifts or jeffries tubes

[Matress_of_evil]

Ooh...shiny... :cool:

I agree, the improved lighting really pays off. As a suggestion, how about adding some landing lights in for your shuttles? I don't remember seeing any in a specific Trek episode or movie, but i'm sure there would be something. It would certainly add to the realism too.

...Feel free to hit me for suggesting you should make changes though, CL... :runs: :lol:

[Capt.Hunter]

In TOS I don't recall seeing landing lights, but I think there was in ST: V. I guess because of the use of the tractor beam there really isn't a need for one though.

[Raideen]

Crimsonline: Congrats on the move and Shalom (FYI Peace in Hebrew) to your new home.

You've been working on the shuttlebay for a while now is that the direction your headed to in your animation.

I only saw an early draft of the animation. The rest of the ship looked really really nice. ;) ;) :thumb:

[SDGreywolf]

Yessir, Mr. al, sir.

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise205.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise206.jpg

I've been working on transfering the lighting from ray shadows to buffered shadows. Still some work to do. I also added physical lighting elements in the repair shop. Those will come in the hangarbay, too.

On the move front, we are all moved in (but not all unpacked). The big snag has been - of course - our internet service. Right now, I am accessing e-mail and the web through dialup, and it's SLOOOOOOW compared to my old cable modem. Long story short, high-speed internet is about two weeks away for us.

So far in the job, I've been unpacking and working on my first sermon for tomorrow. Hasn't left much time for modeling. It'll come, though. It'll come.

Crimson,

I know what your talking about. Great (which is an understatement) work on the Shuttlebay, both inside and out. Good job, and best of luck on the sermon tomorrow.

[angelriv]

I love this ship. it feels so real

[evil_genius_180]

On the move front, we are all moved in (but not all unpacked). The big snag has been - of course - our internet service. Right now, I am accessing e-mail and the web through dialup, and it's SLOOOOOOW compared to my old cable modem. Long story short, high-speed internet is about two weeks away for us.

Yeah, those pictures take forever to load on a dialup, don't they? :(

Dude, those shots of the hanger bay are breathtaking. I love this ship, otherwise I might not wait for said pictures to load on a dialup. :p

[BoogerMc]

Welcome back Cl.

Good news: your shadows are diffinitely much better.

Bad news: I've been in my "new" home for a year and a few days now and I'm still not done unpacking, so Good Luck!

[CrimsonLine]

Bite your tongue, BMc! :)

Thanks for the good wishes, everyone. Unpacking is proceeding apace, and it's feeling more like a home than a warehouse. Change is part of life, but it's hard to manage. Ah, well.

Still on dialup, but getting high-speed on the 15th (yay!). No time to model this whole weekend. My family needed a lot of attention. Heck, *I* needed a lot of attention! :)

[al3d]

Looking pretty good mate..:)...was wondering how was your Miami beach diet was comming along?..i started a new none fat diet, and lost 16 pouds in 3 weeks..:)..so only 55 to go..LOL

[CrimsonLine]

My South Beach diet's going pretty well, considering. :)

Considering I graduated, packed, and moved - and that all of these involved a lot of eating out, eating other peoples' food, and the like. The diet really restarted on Monday. I'm down about 30 pounds so far.

Congratulations on your weight loss, dude - that was fast! How do you feel?

[al3d]

My South Beach diet's going pretty well, considering. :)

Considering I graduated, packed, and moved - and that all of these involved a lot of eating out, eating other peoples' food, and the like. The diet really restarted on Monday. I'm down about 30 pounds so far.

Congratulations on your weight loss, dude - that was fast! How do you feel?

i feel GREATH....but it<s tough during summer with all the BBQ and the cook-out..LOL...it<s actually 17.5 pds in 3 weeks..i just got back from the clinic to get weight..:)..so i'm extatic today..ahaha..got a **** load of clothes that sudenly fits me....so 52.5 pds to go..:)..then i'm my old 20's self again..minus the hair doh....all the help in the world wont grow those back...LOL

[scifieric]

I know how THAT feels! :lol:

[Wolfseye]

My jaw just hit the floor and seems to want to stay there.

What more can I say?

[CrimsonLine]

Ah, hair. Some of us have it - some of us don't. And I guess some of us have it in places where we wish we didn't... :)

[Tallguy]

CL, your threads are always so... social. I mean that as a profound compliment. :)

[BoogerMc]

Ah, hair. Some of us have it - some of us don't. And I guess some of us have it in places where we wish we didn't... :)

Let me put it this way, I tell people my hair starts on the top of my head and goes to the tops of my toes, it doesn't stop anywhere in between and it goes down both the front and the back in equal amounts. I'm just a few hairs short of giving Wolverine a run for his money.

[Dallidas]

Let me put it this way, I tell people my hair starts on the top of my head and goes to the tops of my toes, it doesn't stop anywhere in between and it goes down both the front and the back in equal amounts. I'm just a few hairs short of giving Wolverine a run for his money.


creepy....you sound like my uncle, who can do a good smokey the bear impression...

i guess im lucky though, i still have a full head of hair, being 15 and all...:D


:runs:

[tiepilottillard1701]

I had once knew where that one craizy site of the floor plans to the ship but it seems like if the site has been taken down.

you mean this site: http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints-main2.php, its still there.

[Berticus]

You don't know me...

I'm enjoying the 'family' feel this thread has... Makes me want to petition for an SFM convention.

The ship looks well done, congrats on the new job and good luck (I'm a PK, I know what you types are like! lol jk)

Confabulation! Which is better than Congrabulous! Or Fantabulous... or Confabulous...

Nice work, anyway..:)
-albert

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, guys!

My e-mail woes are over, and hopefully soon I'll actually have a little free time in which to model! :)

[scifieric]

Hopefully you aren't still having dialup woes. Nice to see you here CL.

[Capt. Eric Gardner]

Any more of the new Enterprise?

[Mauiman]

Yessir, Mr. al, sir.

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise205.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise206.jpg

I've been working on transfering the lighting from ray shadows to buffered shadows. Still some work to do. I also added physical lighting elements in the repair shop. Those will come in the hangarbay, too.

On the move front, we are all moved in (but not all unpacked). The big snag has been - of course - our internet service. Right now, I am accessing e-mail and the web through dialup, and it's SLOOOOOOW compared to my old cable modem. Long story short, high-speed internet is about two weeks away for us.

So far in the job, I've been unpacking and working on my first sermon for tomorrow. Hasn't left much time for modeling. It'll come, though. It'll come.


I know how that is with the internet bit buddy. I am glad that I now have a high speed internet. It is so much better and easier for me to be on instead of trying to re-connect every 5 seconds which is a pain.

[CrimsonLine]

I've been off blender for over a month, what with the change of job, city, and birth of my baby. I've not had extended time for anything "free," and so what little I've had, I've put into 2D artwork. It's easier to do fifteen minutes of sketching, drawing, and inking than fifteen minutes of modeling. When things settle down, this will be the first thing I go back to, no doubt.

In the mean time, check out my 2D gallery thread, where I've put some new work recently. I'll continue to update that thread. The link is in my sig.

[BoogerMc]

I hear you, I've been in a slump for the past month or so as well. Maybe we can both come out sometime soon, ya think?

[CrimsonLine]

:)

My slump is baby-related. Coming out of it is sleep-related, job-related, and other-related. :) It's not really up to me.

But if I lose too badly in the 2D art contests that I am entering, I might just have to come back to 3D for a while to nurse my wounds! :D

[Doctorisn]

I guess it would be wrong of me to pray that you continue to lose so we can get you back over here?? :devil:

[BoogerMc]

Mine's more or less burn out. I kinda got bored with the carrier and 3D all together. Although I did throw a little pipe together to help me figure out a problem I had getting a dehumidifier in my garage to drain to the outside.

Then there's that other stuff you mentioned, family problems and responcibilities and other such stuff. But for the most part, burn out, none the less.

[tiepilottillard1701]

well, good luck with your new baby!

[burningman]

Denes..good luck on your new family addition! You will be back in the swing of things soon.
We'll wait ;)

[Dr-Timelord]

I love it now, that blender is really coming into its own now, and the best part is that is still FREE :D


I love this project

[shipfisher]

Congrats on the new littl'un! :)

Family first mate. We'll look forward to more of the hybrid'prise when the time's right. (with any spare time you've got now....Sleep!!!)

[Capt. Eric Gardner]

Don't be gone too long. We'll still be waiting for the new Enterprise.....

[homerpalooza67]

Don't be gone too long. We'll still be waiting for the new Enterprise.....

Roger that...Roger?

Congrats on the kid...:D

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, y'all. Big changes are underway for the CrimsonMan.

1. I finally lost - big time - in the art contest. I still have some paying art jobs to complete, but I'm taking a breather from 2D for a minute or two.

2. My full-time job, as a pastor, is VERY time-consuming, as is parenting (and husbanding, and son-ing...) which is no surprise, but things should ease up a bit soon.

3. I have a new lappy! A low-end MacBook Intel CoreDuo. 1.83 GHz, 512 MB RAM, 60 GB HD, about 5x faster than my old machine, and an amazing thing of beauty. It'll run the most recent release of Blender (actually, I'm having trouble running my OLD release of Blender...) and I should be getting back into the swing of things soon.

Anyway, updates are on the horizon. Not the NEAR horizon, but the horizon nonetheless...

[Professor Moriarty]

We'll be here. :)

[Cinnamon]

Woot! Congrats on all fronts, Denes...

Those new Core Duos sure are sweet machines... I can't wait to see what you do with it! ^_^

All the best!

-jaime

[scifieric]

Thanks, y'all. Big changes are underway for the CrimsonMan.
Sorry to hear about the contest.

Sounds like you might have been busy ...

Looking forward to more of your unique and exciting images!

[burningman]

Good to hear from you Denes....Take your time mate and get your self set..sounds like you got your priorities straight. We'll be here when you are ready :)

[Beowulf]

:)

My slump is baby-related. Coming out of it is sleep-related, job-related, and other-related. :) It's not really up to me.

But if I lose too badly in the 2D art contests that I am entering, I might just have to come back to 3D for a while to nurse my wounds! :D

I feel your pain, i gota 15 monthold.... quite a chore aint it?
but i woudl not change it for anythinbg in the world..
OBTW great work!

[shipfisher]

Originally posted by Beowulf:

I feel your pain, i gota 15 monthold.... quite a chore aint it? but i woudl not change it for anythinbg in the world.

My youngest is nearly 17 months. Can't argue with the chore thing - darned fun little chore though, and I wouldn't change a thing either. :)

[homerpalooza67]

My youngest is nearly 17 months. Can't argue with the chore thing - darned fun little chore though, and I wouldn't change a thing either. :)

Can't say i have quite the same experience, but i've been "uncle-ing" for the last 3 years...

can't wait to see this one finished, CL!!!

[captainkirk]

If I could choose a ship for the NX-01 I would pick this one.

[CX]

Well, been a while since I've been around here, and I'm glad to see that this ship is back despite the big crash that happened during my long absense. I hope to see this ship finished eventually. :)

[CrimsonLine]

Me, too, CX! Me, too.

[scifieric]

Hey CrimsonLine! Nice to see you around! How's the family and the new job?

[Capt. Eric Gardner]

Yeah...............we missed you.................:(

[CrimsonLine]

Family is fine, though the baby stays up until 10 or 11 pm, leaving me no time for any hobby work...

The new job is stressful and difficult, but awesome. There's a lot to do, and I am often overwhelmed, but I trust that God sent me here for a reason, and so I keep at it.

[citizen]

Wow, looks really good. It maybe blasheme or something but I prefer this to the original design...

[Four Mad Men]

BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!

Hey CL! Good to hear from you.

[baxart]

CrimsonLine, I found this on the web, it's from the new ships of the line calender and I wanted to show you the influence you and Burningman are having on TPTB. :)
The art's by Gabriel C. Koerner (if I remember right) he even included a take on the shuttle.
Hope you guys like!

[barry1]

habahabahaba, the connie looks hot

[Four Mad Men]

The answer is probably no, but any more views of that shuttle?

[baxart]

Nope only two shots, I've got a few more of the ship, I can't seem to find where I got those pic last monday. The top of the saucer wasn't finished.

[Ozylot]

CrimsonLine, I found this on the web, it's from the new ships of the line calender and I wanted to show you the influence you and Burningman are having on TPTB. :)
The art's by Gabriel C. Koerner (if I remember right) he even included a take on the shuttle.
Hope you guys like!

Dude that is the hottest connie Ive ever seen. Next to the one CL is building...

Good to see this thread alive, it meens there is hope. Cant wait to see more. :D

[nhall]

Woah! Kick ass Connie! That's amazing!

Cheers,
Nick

[Forcemaster2000]

Glad to know you're still hanging in there CL! Hopefully family life and work life will settle into a rhythm you can live with. As always my prayers are with you and your loved ones...take care!

[BorgMan]

I saw that Connie the other day and I must say I'm amazed by it. Now, ofcourse, this raises the bar even higher for you CL when you have the time again to work on it ;) I can understand that you're too busy right now with the little one, your wife and work. So don't stress it, but it also gives way for my next point...
Give me a PM if you need help visualising stuff, so that you can work faster on it in Blender. I'm all for it to give the designer of that shuttle and Enterprise a run for his money. He reacted pretty harsh on the initial reactions of people. Luckily he toned down, but still...

[barry1]

that connie must be the same size as the Ent-d looking at the size of the windows

[Capt Christopher Donovan]

CrimsonLine, I found this on the web, it's from the new ships of the line calender and I wanted to show you the influence you and Burningman are having on TPTB. :)
The art's by Gabriel C. Koerner (if I remember right) he even included a take on the shuttle.
Hope you guys like!

Can you repost the Connie, the image only dl's about 1/5th then stops.

Also, if you have other views, by all means share... :)

[B.J.]

Gabe Koerner himself posted those and several more here (http://trekweb.com/stbbs/showThread.php?bid=FldwoPP0qETo2&tid=4532d7a0a921f&cid=4532d7a0ae044&viewby=&sort=&order=#4532d7a0ae044).

:edit: Well, maybe not himself, but he posted in that thread.

[Capt Christopher Donovan]

Thank ye' kindly! I was having no luck with search engines...my Yahoo-fu is weak... ;)

[harrisw]

That Hybrid Enterprise is freakin awesome! Definitely movie quality model!

[Ze Aratloss]

Holly molly that looks awesome. She's gonna be a beauty once all done!!!

[Maverick Eagle]

I remember when the hybrid enterprise was no more then a idea almost a year and a half back. I was all for a hybrid version that would bridge the gap between the recent Enterprise series and the TOS Movies. this hybrid for all intents and purposes is the Constitution class ship we all knew and loved given at least in my view a long needed moderization. I have nothing against the old version. I loved the old version but I felt in order for the classes to make sense the design needed a upgrade into what we felt she might have looked liked with todays view of Sci-fi ship design.

I hope to see more of the hybrids as especially the one being done here and see how they compare with the existing designs. Maybe this might spur more moderizations of other TOS vessels.


the main reason I liked the hybrids is because they still show heavy human military influence in its construction. After the TOS series the TNG series of ships began to have significant changes in there designs that of gracefull sweeping lines and maybe influence of alien designs incorparated into there makes. The hybrid looks and feels like a military vessel and a human designed vessel at that designed to explore new worlds and new civilizations, but if need too. Defend herself and destroy or cripple her enemies.

Watch the series from ENT to TOS to TNG then VOY. the changes in design becomes quite obvious right at TNG and is prominant in DS9 and Voyager.

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, y'all. Hope springs, dudes. Hope springs.

That's a cool ship by Gabe Koerner. I'm impressed with his work! Not what I would have done, but it's good work nonetheless.

[homerpalooza67]

I dunno if that can be rightfully considred a "hybrid"- but hell, i'd like to see paramount incorporate that or CL's version in the dvd re-release...:D

[Maverick Eagle]

I wouldn't count on it.. Paramount doesn't really that kinda thought proccess. All they think about is cash cow and money, and hiring bad producers and directors who they themselves have very little original thinking.. . If it was from Lucas Films then yeah we might see a ship like this. Peter Jacksons company is a sure bet.

[homerpalooza67]

i concur. **NEW POLL** Should Peter Jackson buy Star Trek from Paramount?

[black campbell]

God, no! Just what we need -- a Trek movie with no editing. It'll be 18 hours long.

[Maverick Eagle]

why not? At least with someone like peter Jackson. He would probably make quite a decent space opera. (we can dream can't we?)

[burningman]

CrimsonLine, I found this on the web, it's from the new ships of the line calender and I wanted to show you the influence you and Burningman are having on TPTB. :)
The art's by Gabriel C. Koerner (if I remember right) he even included a take on the shuttle.
Hope you guys like!

Oh man I think my design just got blown out of the water..that is simply HOT!

I thought my enterprise caught alot of flak..other boards are beating this thing down left and right.

[Maverick Eagle]

I got banned from a trek site cause I posted a defense for that picture.. Don't bother finding the site they don't like Sci-fi meshes.

[homerpalooza67]

Apparently, these other sites seem to promote stiff canonism, as opposed to SFMs creative thinking. Personally, I dont think Gabriel Koerner's ship would fit into TOS at all, it looks to be too much a warship, or too detailed, im not sure. But as a ship, it looks GOOD! even if it isnt canon, so what?

-Btw, i would take the TOS enterprise, and texture it slightly like the ent-d, otherwise it would be overdone.

[Tallguy]

I got banned from a trek site cause I posted a defense for that picture.. Don't bother finding the site they don't like Sci-fi meshes.I'm curious now. Trekkies do crack me up.

[Freak]

yes, please do tell!

[homerpalooza67]

yes, please do tell!
Oh yes yes yes!!! Pretty pretty please??? With a cherry on top? :flippy: :devil:

[Starscream]

God, no! Just what we need -- a Trek movie with no editing. It'll be 18 hours long.

:lol:

[Gilmour]

why not? At least with someone like peter Jackson. He would probably make quite a decent space opera. (we can dream can't we?)

I can only imagine he'd get the crew out and make them all walk to Ceti Alpha 5.

[Maverick Eagle]

They consider many of the ships created by SFM members as abominations and that were all war fanatics because many of the ships are clearly more militeristic then offical cannon vessels. Also they view that its improper for us to create updates of certain designs and that we shouldn't make new designs for series that are being cancelled. like stargate. Basically they breath, eat, drink, and sleep star trek. They banned me for defense of the Hybrid Enterprise and for my own models which they said stole trek designs and mixed it in with Star Wars and others. its my fleet of small ships in my thread on this forum.

One of the many original trek ships they hated was a fantastic Trek vessel made here that was very original it was shaped liked a cross and was so alien looking and yet so original.

[burningman]

I cought the same kind of flak from mine but was happy as a clam when the guys at Polar lights and the Trek model team loved it.
I tend to look at thier rants as more of entertainment and find it funny that we can get them crazy by simply making a new ship.

[homerpalooza67]

I'm not so much into other forums, but i believe 3dgladiators is pretty normal, but not the same scale as SFM. What i can't understand is someone who will lambast a guy for being original, instead of slavishly adhering to "been there, done that" just b/c its canon.

[GCKoerner]

Hey folks!

THANKS for all the kind words, and for those who don't care for it, I completely respect if its not your taste.

And to the man who started this thread I definitely wouldn't say mine blows yours out of the water - we've each executed creatively valid, exciting takes on a design we love. Mine is meant to be more of a straight up reboot/rethink of the ship, but its funny, mine's gotten NX-01 comparisons as well.

I WANNA KNOW WHERE THE HATERS ARE!!! Hehehehehe... I forget the poster's name, apologies, but someone actually kicked you off for defending my ship?? You've GOT to give me the link, those sorts are fuuuuunnnnnn to mess with. :)

[Auralis]

Hiyas Gabe,

pretty neat design you got there. I do like it pretty well. I personaly just would tone done the plating abit, giving it a smoother look.

Anyway :thumb:

[homerpalooza67]

Hey folks!

THANKS for all the kind words, and for those who don't care for it, I completely respect if its not your taste.

I WANNA KNOW WHERE THE HATERS ARE!!! Hehehehehe... I forget the poster's name, apologies, but someone actually kicked you off for defending my ship?? You've GOT to give me the link, those sorts are fuuuuunnnnnn to mess with. :)

I tried to find some haters also. i even posted on Blender forum Star Trek: Hybrid Enterprise - Blender Artists Forums (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=81234)
but i came up with nothing. I would appreciate it (personally) if you can post your work on the "enterprise reboot" as a new WIP thread here, so we can all patronize u w/o hijacking CL's thread :D!!

P.S. I also like messing with the "haters"- its evil but fun!!! :lol: :flippy: :devil:

[burningman]

Gabe..glad you joined.. great to have someone of your calibre on here.
I did the design of the revamp enterprise but the thread is actually started by Denes "Crimsonline"
He came across my design a while ago and wanted to model it. Mine is all 2d.

I really love your plated look. boout the opnly thing I'd have done differently was sweep the pylons back like the refit but I like that fast look. Great work and good to have you here!

BTW I found some hates by just googleing your name and enterprise and found it on a trek board

Yeah we probably should start another thread so we don't hijack CL thread too bad.

[ghoyle1]

Will you be making this one available somewhere? I love it!

[CrimsonLine]

I opened the Hybrid Enterprise .blend file today to take a look at it again. It was the first time in many months. When I thought about it, I realized that I had let the project get so big that I could no longer handle it. It overwhelmed me. I wasn't just building the ship, I was doing a full interior of the hangar bay, and modeling all the rooms, and the warp core, and doing animations, and all sorts of things. It was too much.

I saved that file under a different name, and then deleted the hangar bay in the original file. I'm going to put my attention into finishing the exterior. Maybe some day I'll go back to the hangar deck, but finishing the exterior is job one. I'll put attention in to this ship and to Optimus Prime, and hopefully have the Hybrid finished by the end of the year.

So for those of you who like this ship - hope is on the way! I actually did a few minutes of work on her again today.

[CrimsonLine]

For what it's worth - the first new renders of this ship in fourteen months:

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise207.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise208.jpg

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise209.jpg

[Knight26]

dang that thing is still nice, love to see it finished

[Chris of EDF]

Yep shes definitlly a beauty

[Ozylot]

That was worth the wait, Im looking forward to when you put the colors to it.

[Road Warrior]

Yes, always liked this design. Cant wait to see her finished!

[Tallguy]

Looking great. I like the new backgrounds too.

[Aescapulius]

Has it really been that long? Wow...

[Dr-Timelord]

14months wow, that is a reallly long time.


what the hell was i doing 14months ago?lol

[Shadowman99]

The ship looks great. Have you made any changes since you picked it up again?

It's nice to see work like this being done in Blender. I wouldn't have tried to do my current project in Blender prior to seeing you build this.

[scifieric]

Congratulations on being back on the case CrimsonLine!

She's a beauty, still.

[Eoraptor]

can I get a Whoot?

[efritsch]

can I get a Whoot?

WHOOT!!

[evil_genius_180]

I'm glad to see you're back on this one, CL. I'm an Enterprise fan and I love the way you blended the ship with the TOS ship. :thumb:

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, guys! It's a relief to be back at work on this one. It's a design I really like, and I had done so much work on it, I didn't want it to go to waste.

Right now, I am on vacation with my wife for two days, so not much Blendering to be done, but when I get back, I'm on the job!

[baxart]

This is one of the two ships that brought me to SFM.
It feels like comming home to see it again.
Thanks! You've really made my day.
Baxter

[Freak]

Well worth the wait CL. She looking even better than the last time I looked at her!

[CrimsonLine]

This is one of the two ships that brought me to SFM.
It feels like comming home to see it again.
Thanks! You've really made my day.
Baxter

Dude, and you designed her logo, too! Part of the reason I have to finish her is to deserve the great Hybrid logo you designed!

[baxart]

Now you've made my week, CL!

[Starship]

She's back!
Beautifull, really beautifull.

[homerpalooza67]

Great work!

[CrimsonLine]

Did some work on her last night, building hangar doors, and trying to fix the secondary hull so that I can make hull plating more easily. I may have to rebuild the secondary hull from scratch if I can't figure this out...

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise210.png

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise211.png

I'm also experimenting with new ways to do my backgrounds and crediting. These are all in-camera rather than backbuf images.

[scifieric]

What needs fixing on the secondary hull for your plating? It looks great to me!

[Shadowman99]

I think CL is refering to the pinching near the shuttlebay.

Keep it up Crimsonline. It'll all sort itself out.

[evil_genius_180]

It also looks like there might be some artifacts forward of the tail, under the pylon. (unless those are windows, I can't tell from that angle.) Aside from the little mesh errors, it looks great, CL. I like the shuttlebay doors, they remind me of the doors on the 1701-A. Do they work?

[Capt. Eric Gardner]

Thank God the Enterprise has returned!

[CrimsonLine]

What needs fixing on the secondary hull for your plating? It looks great to me!
I don't really have hull plating right now - the hull is perfectly smooth. I plan on adding gridlines and plating. But I built the hull using Blender's smoothing feature, which moves verts around so much that cutting hull plates will be very difficult.


I think CL is refering to the pinching near the shuttlebay.
There are two areas of pinching - the wrinkle coming diagonally from the corner of the shuttlebay I can't really do anything about at this point. But...


It also looks like there might be some artifacts forward of the tail, under the pylon. (unless those are windows, I can't tell from that angle.) Aside from the little mesh errors, it looks great, CL. I like the shuttlebay doors, they remind me of the doors on the 1701-A. Do they work?
Those artifacts are the result of my trying to fix the mesh that is there now. I'm going to have to rebuild everything forward of the fantail and hangar doors afresh.

The shuttlebay doors are modeled on the refit 1701. The doors on burningman's drawings look from the side like they have curved door segments, but from the top view they look like refit-style doors. The refit doors are easier to build, so I went with those. They do not work, at present. They are all one piece.

[shipfisher]

Nice to have this beauty back CrimsonLine, though with your vocation I'm sure your time away from it was well spent. :)

[Forcemaster2000]

Great looking work Denes!

I know you'll get that secondary hull into shape, even if it does mean doing it over...as we all know from experience it's that fifth or sixth time re-building something that gets it down pat!

[CrimsonLine]

:) I'm hoping to get it right on the THIRD try, if that's all right with you, FM2K...

[Dr-Timelord]

I totally get what you mean crimson about the smooth/rough features, when you smooth some faces out you get a weird look about it that doesnt quite fit in with the rest. don't worry dude you'll get it in the end

[evil_genius_180]

There are two areas of pinching - the wrinkle coming diagonally from the corner of the shuttlebay I can't really do anything about at this point. But...

That's not really that bad. It almost looks like it could be intentional. *shrugs* If you used trueSpace, I could help you get rid of that but I know nothing of Blender beyond loading and rendering a mesh, which I just learned to do last week. ;)


They do not work, at present. They are all one piece.

So they are just like the doors on the 1701-A. :lol:

[Capt.Hunter]

I think she looks great as is, but then again I really don't see the problem your talking about. Of course that could just be a credit to how good of a job your doing.

Nice to have you back CL

[Freak]

I would offer a hand, but your skills at Blender are better than mine. but it looking great CL

[Oovebei]

Hee I have been waiting for this - oh and one of my original mentors has returned (excellent).

I am pleased (can you tell) :)

[Forcemaster2000]

:) I'm hoping to get it right on the THIRD try, if that's all right with you, FM2K...

I have no doubt that you will :thumb:

[CrimsonLine]

Okay, here's my rebuilt secondary hull and hangar bay. I still have some substantial problems, just in different areas. :) Now, I have smoothing issues along the flanks of the fantail cutout - classic Enterprise problem! Sigh. But there is no wrinkle at the corner of the hangar deck cutout, and the modeling on it is much simpler. I used Sub-D to make my previous hangar deck and fantail. This one was done through booleans (fantail) and a simple spin move (hangar deck). Makes for a much cleaner mesh.

Of course, I have smoothing issues. This is my third build of the 2ndary hull. Maybe I *will* hit five builds....

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise213.png

http://www.fourmadmen.com/mirror/~crimsonline/CLHybridEnterprise214.png

[Ice-Dragon]

Hi CrimsonLine, great model it's really coming along nicely.

Just idea, do you still have the previous hull? if you do you could cut the flanks of the fantail out of it and use it in the new hull, and see if that works.

[CrimsonLine]

Thanks, Ice-Dragon. Yes, I do have the previous hull, but because the re-built hull was designed to eliminate some problems in the old hull, it doesn't fit well, and can't really fit well. For one thing, it has an oddly different number of circumferential vertices, so that joining it to the new hull will make odd pinching points. Believe me, the thought has gone through my head a number of times, as I've been messing with this new hull. :)

[Forcemaster2000]

New secondary hull looks good CL! Except for that little pinch of course...I'm sure you'll eventually get it though, if you can eliminate it in one area, you'll be able to do it in others as well.

[scifieric]

That also happens in TrueSpace. I get around it by drawing a new line *very* close to the edge of the hull to reduce the size of the error.

I can illustrate if it will help!