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| SFM Guru Realname: LCARS GOD Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Best City New York Age: 28
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| Intel Tests Chip Design With 80-Core Processor Following their march from standard processors to dual-core and quad-core designs in 2006, Intel researchers have built an 80-core chip that performs more than a teraflop of operations (trillions of floating point operations per second) while using less electricity than a modern desktop PC chip. First described by Intel executives at a September trade show, the chip fits 80 cores onto a 275-square millimeter, fingernail-size chip and draws only 62 watts of power--less than many modern desktop chips. The company has no plans to bring this "teraflop research chip" to market, but is using it to test new technologies such as high-bandwidth interconnects, energy management techniques, and a tile design method to build multicore chips, said Jerry Bautista, director of Intel's tera-scale research program. He spoke in a conference call with reporters on Friday before presenting technical details of the research at the ISSCC (Integrated Solid State Circuits Conference) trade show in San Francisco. Intel has discussed the 'era of tera' before. Other Uses Intel engineers are also using the chip to explore new forms of tera-scale computing, in which future users could process terabytes of data on their desktops to perform real-time speech recognition, multimedia data mining, photo-realistic gaming, and artificial intelligence. Until now, that degree of computing performance has been available only to scientists and academics using machines like ASCI Red, the teraflop supercomputer built by Intel and its partners in 1996 for U.S. government researchers at Sandia National Laboratories, near Albuquerque, New Mexico. That system handled a similar amount of computing as the new chip, but demanded an enormous 500 kilowatts of power and 500 kilowatts of cooling to run its nearly 10,000 Pentium Pro chips. Shrunk onto a single chip, that power would allow average consumers to use their PCs in new ways. They could use improved search functions on the vast amounts of digital media stored on home desktops, searching large photo archives for specific attributes such as all the shots where a certain person is smiling, or where that person is posing with a friend, Bautista said. Specs Running at 3.16 GHz, the new chip achieves 1.01 teraflops of computation--an efficiency of 16 gigaflops per watt. It can run even faster, but loses efficiency at higher speeds, performing at 1.63 teraflops at 5.1 GHz and 1.81 teraflops at 5.7 GHz. The processor saves power by shunting idle cores into sleep mode, then instantly turning them on as they're needed. Each modular tile has its own router built alongside the core, creating a "network on a chip." Despite using such an efficient grid, the researchers found they could actually hurt performance by adding too many cores. Performance scaled up directly from 2 cores to 4, 8, and 16. But they found that computing performance began to drop with 32 and 64 cores. "If we simply added more than 16 cores, we would get diminishing returns, because the threads and data traffic would not be used properly, so the cores get in the way of each other. It's like having too many cooks in the kitchen," said Bautista. To solve the problem on the new chip, they used a hardware-based thread scheduler and faster on-chip memory caches, optimizing the way data flows from memory into each core. To improve the design, Intel researchers plan to add a layer of "3D stacked memory" under the chip to minimize the time and power required to feed the cores with data. Next, they will create a mega-chip that uses general purpose cores instead of the floating-point units used in the current design. |
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| Sensei Join Date: May 2006 Age: 25
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| They also said that it will never reach the market. Well ... at the very least the 80 core chip won`t ... the 16 core chips though ... ![]() I find it surprising though that they didn`t try to increase the raw speed of the CPU in the process. If they could have a CPU with 16 cores that run on 10 Ghz for example ... hehe ... now THAT would be nice. Although if I`m not mistaken, they also mentioned how cpu chips reached a limit with the basic techs they operate on and as such the speeds won`t increase. I think the multiple cores solution is a good temporary fix, but long term when it comes to raw speed they will hit a wall. |
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| ^They've reached the limits of speed in CPU's pretty much... they can't make circuits in them much smaller, nor can they deal with the heat generated by increased cycles or calculation. The answer is to make computing more parallel by using multiple CPU's to execute instructions. Which is why the multi-core is the direction to go in. |
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| I`m aware of the speed limit ... although ... increasing the cores is not going to be a process that will be going on indefinitely. Sooner or later even that option will hit it`s limits as well. |
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| SFM Oracle Realname: Rich Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hull, Yorkshire, England Age: 39
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Blog Entries: 2 | Well if each of those cores costs 200 quid, thats going to be pretty expensive. As for limits, some interesting developments are being made in quantum computing. |
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