Battlestar Galactica: Season 4 (Spoilers)

[Monkey Boy]

Ahh, You-tube is a wonderful thing, is it not?

I've seen the trailer now,
It actually looks to me like we are inside Roslin's head as she re-examines an event on New-Caprica, it has that drearly leached colour look that N.C. had.
D'Anna's presence is easily explained, other characters are frequently appearing inside other people's heads lately.

[Caeser4031]

We clearly see a pic of the fleet over a blue planet...I doubt its anything short of them finding earth.

[Tovette]

I woder if it's another marker planet...

on another note- what if the last cylon is someone new and he/she is already on earth waiting for them?

[Berkut]

I highly doubt it's earth (what would be the point of the rest of the season), but it will probably show the planet at the last second of the episode to have a cliff hanger. Also I think having the final cylon as someone new would be too punishing for everyone waiting to see which of the main cast is the final cylon.

[Monkey Boy]

I think Earth, if they even make it, will be an epilogue at the end of the season, not mid-way.

As to a new person being the final cylon, we have pretty much been promised that "the final five are in the fleet" so the final one should be there with the colonists, or what was the point?

[turbinea]

yeah, but that is what everybody expects, and this show is anything but. at first i expected that mid season cliffhanger would be colonials finding out identities of final five, but now i´m not so sure.

from last episode one question remains: why would baltar speak to centurion? there is no logic, they call them toasters for reason. i assume he probably doesnt know that they have free will now, since this was discussed only between the cylons. even when he does know, why? does he wants to have cult of folowers at every fraction? next time we could see him taking bath with the hybrid (or two)

[Coolhand]

Well the old toasters were self aware, thats why they rebelled in the first place... The name "Toaster" is just because of their shiny chrome finish, nothing to do with their intelligence so why not try and have a conversation with one, even if they can't talk back. Maybe he's initiating the centurions rebelling against the rebel cylons, putting ideas in their heads, or maybe baltar was just bored? ... It was an entertaining scene whatever though.

[Sanderlee]

Originally Posted by universaltim

Awesome! Footfall for the win! Man, that's an reference if ever there was one. I give you many points for that.

Michael is a ship the humans build in Footfall by Niven and Pournelle, and is an excellent book.
I would suggest reading it to everyone. In fact, I just might go and re-read it.

Correct.

A Michael is a nuclear pulse drive warship ... i.e. an Orion. It's big (carries two space shuttles as "fighters" as well as eight additional smaller parasites called stovepipes), uses megaton-range nukes as its drive and fires x-ray lasers as a side-effect of its engine.

"God was knocking, and he wanted in bad.
WHAM
WHAM
WHAM"

--Niven and Pournelle, Footfall, page 444.

Sometimes, brute force has an elegance all its own.

But we now return you to your regularly scheduled Battlestar Debate.

No, I don't think they reach Earth in the next episode. They obviously reach some planet, but I think its another signpost/waypoint on the journey. I don't know why I think that--other than it's unlikely that the last ten episodes will be "Okay, we made it ... now what?"

[JeffrySG]

I, too, really liked the scene with Baltar and the toaster... I was thinking that he would either crush baltar or baltar would put enough thoughts in his head that it would just cause problems (rebelling) later on. Either way, you get the feeling that balter was only doing it for the purpose of entertaining himself.

I'm not sure if that planet is Earth or not... there are so many things it could be... a dream, another planet, flash back or forward. Either way I'm excited to find out!

[turbinea]

Originally Posted by Coolhand

Well the old toasters were self aware, thats why they rebelled in the first place... The name "Toaster" is just because of their shiny chrome finish, nothing to do with their intelligence so why not try and have a conversation with one, even if they can't talk back. Maybe he's initiating the centurions rebelling against the rebel cylons, putting ideas in their heads, or maybe baltar was just bored? ... It was an entertaining scene whatever though.

old toasters may be self aware, but this place in hierachy was taken by skinjobs, and new centurions (now serving as slaves) are probably intelligent, but they also usualy have "neural inhibitor" or something like this, which prevents them to use their own will. Natalie removed this to use centurions to start the rebellion. anyway, i agree, this scene was very entertaining. i hope it will continue somehow.