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Old 07-07-2008, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hancock (SPOILERS)

Saw this over the weekend. Don't get me wrong I like Will Smith but just cus he is Will f-ing Smith does not automatically make anything he does gold. This movie had the potential to be really awesome and for the first half it was.

Hancock was what Superman was like in Superman 3 after getting dosed with the manufactured Kryptonite, well almost. He wasn't evil he was just a complete Jackass. I dug that immensely I thought to myself if I had the powers of Superman what would I do, Honestly I think I would be pretty much the same as I am now but I digress.

Hancock was a loitering, bum drunk of a super hero. he did his saving when he could but really felt no obligation to do so and he didn't feel he needed to answer to anybody because he was at least doing the right thing. It was funny to see him just bummy and crabby about having to save people because it interrupted his drinking and sleeping and all around bumminess.

Then we get the twist.

We find that he's like this because he can't remember the past and he's immortal he's lost the last 80 years of his life and he's terribly lonely because nobody remembers him or came to look for him for the past 80 years. OK I can go with that too, not a bad thing and it keeps with the story and make it interesting but wait folks theres more.

Turns out that the guy he save from the train (Jason Bateman) is married to Mary (Charlize Theron) but guess what she has powers too! unbeknown est to her husband (either of them) Yeah you heard me she's Hancocks WIFE!!!! apparently their Angels or Gods or some crap and they're immortal and they're the last of course because the others like them paired up and became mortal and lived happy lives together and died of old age or any other countless things we humans can die from but not Hancock and his girl.

Why you ask oh because for whatever reason they could never get it to work and so they'd break up but the twist is no matter how far or how long they're apart they always know where the other is and they are eventually attracted back together and they try to make it work but something happens to split them up.

By this time in the theater I'm like WTF am I watching. Yeah the effects were cool, the fights the flying the supper power but the story GAAAAGGGGGG.

Where's the super villain you ask THERE AINT ONE!!!
What's His weakness you ask? IT"S HER but only in the respect that if they stay around each other they'll become mortal and die of old age or whatever but as long as they stay away from one another they both retain their powers and immortality. And seeing as he can't remember life with her from before hand and she's married to Joe shmoe it's an even trade so he has no weakness because the only way to get to him would be through her and she's as strong as he is so unless you find a way of tricking them into coming into contact all bets are off. Ye GADS I wanted to puke at that.

I mean at least Superman has Kryptonite that Humans can actually use against him, other hero's like spidey have their relationships to people like Mary Jane that might be a possible way to defeat him other than out right crushing him since he's not impervious or immortal but Hancock?

Not only would you have to trick them but you'd have to cut off their innate GOD GIVEN ability to sense the others presence. UGH this stared out as an awesome movie and went down hill so freakin fast I was completely disappointed by the end. Overall a good popcorn movie but listen if you're gonna do a movie about a drunk bummy superhero leave it at that and don't throw in Mythos and Gods and Angels to sell a drama point.

Watch if you want I did and I'm still alive but I'm still disappointed. (However I'm sure this will find its way into my DVD collection )

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Old 07-07-2008, 04:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well that sucks pretty hard! Be a 'god' or love someone....

Wait-a-minute! Supes did that in one of his movies....

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Old 07-07-2008, 04:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i had free tickets to see that.

and, ok its funny... but will smith made better movies before... thats the 2nd one on a row that really sucks.

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Old 07-07-2008, 06:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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@ Chrono Yeah superman 2 I think he did that gave up his powers to be twith Lois but the concept is totally different, he doesn't even remember this chick being his wife in Hancock and it just gets all out of whack by the end all he know for sure when they first meet is the temperature goes up in the room and then later after they have a obligitory super hero fight she tells him the whole deal and of course the fight goes down in full view of her husband.

It's just Bleh for a story line IMO, they could have done better.

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I liked it. I first thought they'd deal with his accident being the reason why he's so powerful, but then they told the story of immortal beings acting like Gods, who turn mortal when they find they counterpart. I liked that, too.

And it had the action & violence you'd expect in a proper Superman movie, when Supergoof throws a punch and the villains really get messed up because it's, yeah, well, Supergoof. Unfortunately, Superman Returns was all about Superman catching giant objects and bullets bouncing off, no real Supergoof vs. Human fight that ends up in a mess.

Wouldn't mind a sequel, honestly.

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@ Chrono Yeah superman 2 I think he did that gave up his powers to be twith Lois but the concept is totally different, he doesn't even remember this chick being his wife in Hancock and it just gets all out of whack by the end all he know for sure when they first meet is the temperature goes up in the room and then later after they have a obligitory super hero fight she tells him the whole deal and of course the fight goes down in full view of her husband.

It's just Bleh for a story line IMO, they could have done better.
I think that they just alternated and extended the concept. But it's starting to sound like more of a 'trap' movie that tempts males into watching it with the comedy/super-bum bit then turns it into a chick flick at the end.

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I can appreciate that, it's just the whole angle of the immortal beings and him not having any weakness beyond being to close to her that bugs me, even superman is finite in his life span and certainly in his weakness which is what you need with a being that powerful other witse you have for lack of a better term God or a god and super heroes are not supposed to be Gods that's what Supervillains try to attain to beat super heroes Unless of course the super hero starts off as a god but hell even Thor has his weaknesses and can be killed if he's damaged enough.

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I think that they just alternated and extended the concept. But it's starting to sound like more of a 'trap' movie that tempts males into watching it with the comedy/super-bum bit then turns it into a chick flick at the end.
Dude oh how you speak the truth I mean it works out at the end for everybody I guess but the trailers are a total mislead. You thinking yer gonna see a Superheros that's a plain jackass and wind up watching Therapy for the heroiclly challenged coupled with While you were sleeping...ugh...

Action: check
Visuals: check
Comedy: check
story: starts off well and falls off hard at the end

take it for what you will.

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I thought the movie was fun. I didn't mind the turn of events half way through. I liked that they didn't go the whole cliche super villian route. I think the movie is mostly about Hancock as a person who's troubled than a 'super powered being' and let's watch the fighting and stuff. Sure they sold the movie as such but the movie is a product and it's goal is to make money. Marketing people know they will fill more seats if they market the movie as what all of you thought it would be. Some don't like, and that's cool. I thought it was neat; not the best I've ever seen but not horrible either.

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i dont know about you guys, but im definely against the fact that immortals had children...

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