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Old 06-26-2006, 12:52 PM   #111 (permalink)
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But thats a weird one anyway because Rose and the Doctor are there twice, and one set vanishes, so it is possible for the past to go away depending on what happens in the present.

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Old 06-26-2006, 12:59 PM   #112 (permalink)
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That's pretty much my point - depending upon which story is involved, it's either possible or not possible depending upon the needs of the story. There are quite a few monolgues by the Doctor stating that you can't change time, and yet it's also been the basis of entire storylines - the biggest I would guess being 'Genesis of the Daleks' where the idea is to wipe out an entire race (ie The Daleks) before they can exist.

At the end of the day, they've got themselves in a pickle over it all. Afterall, if it were officially possible, he should be able to go back and save Galifrei - conversely, saving an entire race.

[URGH!]: Just thought of another hole in the changing history thing - if the Dr. wiped out all of the Cybermen in Silver Nemesis, therefore preventing the Earthshock episode, apart from negating the death of an assistant it would also prevent the human race from ever existing - the Cargo ship that the Cybermen cause to crash into Earth is the trigger for the death of the dinosaurs and the evolution of man... just a small one.

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Old 06-26-2006, 01:17 PM   #113 (permalink)
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But wouldnt that just stop an alternative version of earth from having a population?

If changing the past branches off a parallel universe with each change made, then if the tardis is keyed to one universe, it should be able to return to the present or future of the unchanged universe, which as you say, makes no sence for genisis of the daleks.

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Old 06-26-2006, 01:32 PM   #114 (permalink)
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time travel you got to love it. it skews with your head. When you think you have figuered it out it skews with you again leaving you more confused then when you started.

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Old 06-26-2006, 04:30 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Sphynx is right, Doctor Who isn't terribly consistent about the rules of Time Travel. Even in the 2nd season, I spotted a contradiction. Remember when we saw Casandra again? "That was the the last somebody told me I was beautiful" ... (or something like that...) The Doc brought her back in her assistant's form before she/he died to live that moment. The implication was that had already happened before the Doc and Rose mucked about with the timeline (at least the second time...). That was a nice touch to the story, but what about the previous finale when the Doctor couldn't take the Tardis back in time to stop the Dalek invasion? "As soon as the Tardis materializes, you become integrated into the time line..." Or creating the time paradox that causes the ugly alien things to come out and eat people?

I'm not sure that nitpick carries that much water, but it was enough to make me scratch my head. I have some sympathy for the writers about this, though. It's a tough problem. If the Doctor could solve all the problems by just whizzing back in time a few days, the show wouldn't be terribly exciting.

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Old 06-26-2006, 08:19 PM   #116 (permalink)
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The one thing that got me was the Satan Pit when the doctor turns round and says sorry I couldn't save the Ood, the was only time for one trip. What in a timeship?
The I thought about the gravity of the black hole effecting the Tardis but the doctor seem unconcerned about the gravity after all his people did invent them.
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Read a review of the next ep. a lot of good thing are being said.
One question, The Doctor was been visiting Earth for years he has Teamed up with T.A.S.K (I think that is what they are called.) yet untill now the has been no mention of Touchwood. Would not be better to call it T.A.S.K?

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You are thinking of UNIT? The United Nations Intelligence Taskforce.

Yeah, that's where the idea of Torchwood breaks down a little. For all of the UNIT episodes to have existed without Torchwood becoming involved is a little hard to believe - especially with the experience that UNIT has had over the years. UNIT has been overruled by the UK government in the past, but that has always by sending in regular army units.

It's easy to try and dismiss Torchwood as being a very specific, UK government organisation, but when the Doctor and UNIT fight Yeti's in the London Underground, Silurians in Welsh mines and Zygons in Scottish Lochs, its a little hard to try and explain why Torchwood would not get involved. And when you have The Master in a prison on the Isle of Wight, that would certainly be a draw for one or two Torchwood encounters...

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UNIT, that it! T.A.S.K!

It could be possible that the when UNIT was involved, Touchwood sent it people in as UNIT. But then they would have tried to take the Tradis.

The British Government knows of the Doctor. He got called in last season when the PM was taken over alien. Touchwood would have been involved then.

The guys at the Beeb has not thought through, this new show unless it all get explained in the first few Ep’s.

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double post my bad. Self

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