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    I've watched the first 20mins again, and i can see where a few ppl come from, external shots of the ship are pretty cool, but feels like ALOT of external shots of the ship just doing fly bys past the camera, and thats only the first 20mins lol

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    Sweet! More! More!

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    Just checking in, I'm working on Scene 40, it's a pretty short scene as far as they go (until now, that honor was held by Scene 37B, "It's Showtime"), but it's time-consuming because of certain graphical elements. I'm just glad we're on an established filming set, the Fitzgerald bridge, otherwise it would be twice as bad. (Scene 41 takes place aboard the ISS Voyager, in a new location there, and then back to the Fitzgerald to visit another new set we haven't visited yet, so the next few scenes are going to be time-consuming too).

    Also, on a whim I decided to do what so many of my YouTube viewers seem to be doing, and typed in the name of the movie at the Google homepage, just to see how many hits there'd be. There's quite a few (list to follow), but what caught my eye was a series of remarks on the Trekmovie.com page for Star Trek Phoenix:

    59. entropy - May 5, 2010
    Looks awful…may I STRONGLY RECOMMEND “Star Trek Specter” found on youtube…saw this the other day and was blown away by the attention to detail and the great music cues, not to mention a very good story.

    69. CaptainHawk1 - May 6, 2010
    @ 59.

    Star Trek Specter… seriously? With the really bad 1990 CGI animation, terrible voice acting and music stolen from Voyager? You were blown away by this? I’d be embarrassed to admit that.
    This also from CaptainHawk1:

    68. CaptainHawk1 - May 6, 2010
    I hate fan productions because they all suck on so many different levels. Though not perfect (it’s a fan production, folks) this was actually enjoyable and more to the point, watchable.
    See my response:

    123. tnpir4002 - July 12, 2010
    @CaptainHawk: Forgive me but to say that you “hate” all fan productions because they “suck” is prejudicial and, if you’ll forgive me, arrogane and presumptuous. Fan productions can’t all be what Of Gods and Men was; not everyone has access to professional tools so some of us have to work with what we have. “Specter” is my baby and it’s been a work in progress for almost four years now (those sets don’t build themselves you know). Yes, I re-used some music from the series and movies; yes the voice acting is somewhat lackluster (I’m doing all the parts for right now but once it’s finished I’m replacing my temp tracks with a full ensemble cast). And admittedly, the Poser 4 characters I’m using aren’t the greatest ones available (higher-res characters from DAZ are available but they would be impractical given the computing power I have available). But to compare it to “1990 CGI” is frankly insulting; I’m using consumer-grade tools and a few prefab characters, and what’s there is the best I have.

    If you hate all fan productions, I’d challenge you to do better. Otherwise, don’t just blindly insult other peoples’ hard work.
    I couldn't believe the nerve of that individual, to say the least. Blindly insulting all fan productions because they "suck" crosses the line, bigtime, especially after slamming mine as "bad 1990 CGI animation." Fan production values aren't always very high (and some are downright abysmal), but at the end of the day someone put a lot of work (and usually a lot of heart) into their production, and no one but no one deserves to have theirs slammed like that, by someone who very obviously didn't view the entire project and who doesn't understand the enthusiasm required for any serious fan film effort, CG or otherwise. Respectful critiques are one thing--blatant flaming by the Fan Dumb is something else entirely.

    Some other links (main topic as well as honorable mentions):

    http://www.trekunited.com/community/...howtopic=19739
    http://www.joseralat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1193
    http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php...37ceeb49d77494
    http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/94.html
    http://acruxcontent.blogspot.com/201...be-amazed.html
    http://trekforum.stardust1.com/viewt...2&t=19&start=0 (honorable mention)
    http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthre...ighlight=Poser (honorable mention; now with its own main topic)
    http://trekmovie.com/2010/05/05/fanm...first-episode/ (scroll down to comments for quoted exchange)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnpir4002 View Post
    Some other links (main topic as well as honorable mentions):

    http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthre...ighlight=Poser (honorable mention)
    You're welcome! (ever notice how "jedman"s avatar is always the same as mine?)
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    Wow, i cant wait to see what childish response you get, i hate it when ppl hate on things and never give a validated reason as to why

    'just cos' is usually their answer

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    Alright guys, I call upon you to once again help me with something.

    Several posts made by viewers early on in this thread have stuck by me, and now that I'm getting close to the end of this project I'm starting to think back to the beginning. Specifically:

    -the comments that Reyf's fear of Garr from the very outset doesn't seem justified, since even after the shuttle incident Reyf shouldn't fear him enough to dub him a "criminal mastermind" and so forth
    -also the issue of how Garr has managed to keep himself hidden for so long (essentially all the impossibilities that are referenced in the scene in Data's quarters)

    I dodged the issue at the time, and those critiques weren't brought back up after the retool, but I figured I'd finally address them and see what you guys thought about it:

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    Makes sense. *nods* But, that would beg the question: wouldn't Section 31 rather go after him themselves with their equally clandestine / scarcely legal technology / ships, rather than recruit Reyf + the Fitzgerald & (in the process) touch-off a panic, and/or possibly cause a ripple effect back to themselves or 31's legitimate Starfleet contacts/handlers and potentially prematurely expose operatives?

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    @Hellsgate: those are precisely the reasons I didn't go with the Section 31 angle in the first place! It could in theory be rationalized in such a way as to address those concerns, but it'd take some doing (and would probably require a bookend appearance at the end of the movie, an idea I'm not exactly in love with).
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    Alright, after a longer-than-I'd-like haitus, Scene 40 is up! This is the scene were we finally get our Alternate Character Interpretation for Garr, but be warned, it ends with a real Tear Jerker. Approach with caution! At the very least, hopefully this scene will help Reyf's explanation in Scene 38 make more sense. If not, then Scene 41 definitely will!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c55vCzG-AcM

    We're likely going to have another stopdown of some length before the next scene, we've got one more USS Fitzgerald set to visit, but first I have to build it.

    Confrontation with Garr is now two scenes away.
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    I can't wait to see a co-operative fleet of Klingons, Humans & "other(s)" taking out the Fitzgerald aand/or the I.S.S. Voyager or possibly a "last-second plot twist" accomplice. MMMM..the thought of the Fitz head-butting the Voyager in a mutual-destruction sacrifice scene.

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