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    I'm trying to get as close to the originals as possible. A more detailed explanation is here.
    http://www.incomcorp.net/research.html
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    nice website, that is a VERY nice R2 you have as well! i should have been more precise, i meant are you trying to replicate any 1 of them, like red-2, or 4 etc. i ended up with a mammoth file full of interchangable parts for about 6 different x-wings, both hero and pyro models. (to this day i am STILL not happy with my fuselage. every couple months i open it up and tinker with it!)

    seems like all your source files were from MMM, there's a gold mine for the X on this link: http://www.therpf.com/f10/one-stop-x...thread-124738/

    and i know several of the guys over there that will start buggering you to produce 3d grown parts for them...
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    This is just a generic, showroom floor X-wing. According to expanded universe stuff the X-wing was designed for the Empire and stolen by the Rebellion. So I was looking into an Empire or Republic paint scheme. I’m also thinking of a factory diorama.

    The beauty of Inventor is that every part is a separate file. Then only the face info is loaded into an assemble file as it’s used. Once you learn the interface it’s really easy to use. I may go back and remodel R2 with it. I quit using MAX years ago because I couldn’t get the level of control I was looking for. I hear that has improved as of late.

    The Falcon is on my list too.
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    Work on the Engineering Bay (as I call it) begins.
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    Since I decided to remodel the R2 unit I thought I should do more research and see if I could find more accurate drawings to work from. I soon came across the original studio schematic of R2. After hours of studying the schematic, photo and my original R2, I drew a few conclusions. The first was that my R2 was far closer to the photographic evidence than the schematic. The second is that the scale of my R2 was off slightly. Width wise, I was off by 1.5”. And height wise, off by around 5”. The web consciences is that R2 is 108cm high. This correlates to the studio schematic at 108.4cm scales. Armed with this new information I will remodel R2 so that he is more accurate.
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    have you been to the builders-club yahoo group? all the schematics, cad files, individual part profiles... everything you need to build an R2 real or virtual:

    http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group.../?prop=eupdate
    I've invented time travel in 2 hour increments! here's how i do it:
    step one ~ make coffee.
    step two ~ open MAX.
    step three ~ realize i'm trying to drink from an empty coffee cup and 2 hours have passed.

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    Thx for the info. I’ll check it out.

    I’ve seen a lot of schematics out there. Most are duplicates of each other or very similar. If I hadn’t seen the original drawings from the movie I wouldn’t have bothered with the changes. Even in that, the drawings are imperial and I’m converting them to metric. I’m almost done with my drawings.
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    r2 was actually patented, and the blueprint in the big super expensive book that came out last year (the same one you're talking about that had been posted around for years and years) you can actually request a copy of that patent issue to get the plans.

    but those prints are what all the dxf's we've got archived at the group are based on, except they're also done as 3d-dwgs.

    i did a low detail version of R2 for my xwing based on them too, as an experiment trying out the 3d modeling side of autocad when i first got release '08.

    if you'd like to compare, here's the file. all the basic parts are there, but no detail. i tried exporting it to max this morning, but i had to scale it up about 1,000,000x before exporting to get the mesh to retain any sense of order or detail in max>.< (it still mystifies me how bad files xfer from cad to max when both are made by the same developer. i guess thats where your app comes in!)
    http://www.mediafire.com/?om8c4m9f2i288sx

    edit: added a couple old screenshots of it;
    Last edited by anystar; 11th Mar 2013 at 17:36.
    I've invented time travel in 2 hour increments! here's how i do it:
    step one ~ make coffee.
    step two ~ open MAX.
    step three ~ realize i'm trying to drink from an empty coffee cup and 2 hours have passed.

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    The group stuff will definitely help. Thanks.
    With Inventor I can step up the detail. I don’t think I’ve seen two R2 units that are exactly alike, even production ones. So in the end this will be subjective.
    I just want the base R2 so I can finish the X-wing. Then I think I will come back and do a really detailed version with a set of prints. (Maybe a tech manual.)
    Inventor translates directly to 3dsMAX. AutoCAD doesn’t do that. But MAX has gotten better at reading AutoCAD files. (Native DWG’s)
    Did you use solid modelling in AutoCAD?
    Synclair Hyqs
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    Since the premise of my site is the OEM of the X-wing, I’ve gone about “cleaning up” the plans. i.e. converting to metric and rounding to “clean” values for dimensions. (I don’t know what they use to measure distance in the Star Wars galaxy but I’m sure it’s not the imperial system)
    For example, the studio plan shows R2’s body at 1’ 7 5/8” or 19.625”. This comes out to 498.475mm. I would assume that a manufactures of fine droids like Industrial Automaton would not use a measurement as arbitrary as 498.475mm, so I rounded it up to 500mm. That gives you a new imperial measurement of 19.685”, a difference of 0.06”.
    All this so that I feel that my plans look “logical”. (All hail the great Mr. Spock. “Live long and prosper.”)
    Synclair Hyqs
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    Incom Corporation

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