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    Star Trek Discovery

    Hmmm.

    https://twitter.com/startrekcbs


    I can't say I'm a big fan of the design. I never thought much of the McQuarrie design it seems to be based on.
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    Well, I'll at least give it a chance...
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    I wonder how long it will take you brilliant geniuses to build one of those babies. Seems like there's enough reference material.

    I'll say this: I can already picture the interior, and started doodling it. Keeps the same earth tones, low lights, moody, a bit bulky and brutalist with some exposed pipes, but unbelievably cool. The bridge would be a big, open command center (with a low ceiling, typical for this ship), with lots of crew going about. The wall panels would be big plasma monitors on the top, with backlit panels below, and push-button consoles with the arc layout (like TOS/TUC). The chairs are blocky and square, nice and sturdy, with warm texture to them (think fabric seat covers). The viewscreen is very wide, 2.35:1, with blinkies at the bottom. The uniforms are muted colours and dark gray, and some crew wear sweaters like in the British army.

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    I like it. The McQuarrie design was always cool to me and I like how they've refined it.

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    Haha…ok honestly… I've just logged in here in ages, and i thought i'd never do it again JUST for something like this, for just expressing my absolute distaste for something: But I've been through a lot with some guys here and a lot with Startrek. I understand what they were trying to do. But man… This is _THE_ absolutely worst trek starship design _ever_ and i thought you couldn't do something more visually repelling then some fan design out there. This is just… unbelievable bad marketing. Sure, it's not the finished CGI, but that ship's shapes are just awful. Truly awful. There's just nothing more I can say. Sure, there's gonna be different opinions about it but there has never ever been a startrek ship design (from any bloody A, B, C, to D, to NX to Intrepid-Class, to Sovereign to the Defiant to Runabouts to…anything basically) that i did not in some way admire, appreciate or accept. This is just silly. If this is called "design", Kelvin-Timeline Trek is thought provoking drama. Kelvin-Trek, of course, is not (I still like it, even though it's not the trek i've grown up with and i don't care if it is) but seriously…wtf? At least the Klevin Timeline has good design. Trek always did. Now, it doesn't anymore. I came back from a party damn excited to finally get a look at the new series, and they present this absolutely laughable attempt at combining a saucer with some nacelles? The top of the saucer actually looked promising. Damn, I'm underwhelmed and actually pissed if this is what Discovery is gonna look like. It's 2016!

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    The flying Dorito design returns!

    I don't hate the design as bad as most seem to, but what intrigues me most is that registry number. I think it's our strongest clue as to when this show is set.

    NCC-1031 is an older registry number than the TOS Enterprise, but newer than the U.S.S. Kelvin (NCC-514). Now in 2233 when the Kelvin is destroyed in the alternate timeline, the ship already looks old and rusted. You could guess it's about 20 years old or so.

    So if the Kelvin was commissioned in the 2210's, that means about 1200 starships where commissioned in a 50 year period between then and TOS. Using that average, if the Discovery is a new ship in the series, it's probbaly set in the 2230's or 40's. Plenty of material to draw off of referenced in the original series (Axenar), which would explain the lawsuit, too.

    Or it might not be any of that. Still, fun to speculate!

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    homage, homage, homage, I am sick of homage!

    It is like people today cannot live with out one trope after another being reused non stop. Entire shows and movies that are enormous tropes in of themselves. Go back to /b please.

    Into Darkness was one gigantic trope, so much so it was nearly a parody of what it was.


    I think this thing is horrendous it is just a mess of bits others came up with stuck onto a old profile that was rejected some 40 years ago all to make some demented homage to what did not come before. Also loads of details filched from others work.

    But given the evidence, I doubt much discovery will go on outside of the ship.


    Really if they has just bought this guys model and finished it off I doubt so many would have thrown up in their mouths today.

    http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...ar+trek+titans

    http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/plane...rprise.130992/

    Not sure if I could swallow it as a pre TOS ship, but it relates far better as a execution of design.


    And really STD. . . . that wont go away any time soon.

    Oh and cbs is now claiming this is not the FINAL design. Sorry guys Jan 2017 is less than 6mo away. You cannot still be messing about with designing anything, you should be hiring actors and have penned scripts by now. I smell a "OH$HIT, gotta fix this crap" moment that spilled on the floor.
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    Great design for the ship but I hope this is just a temporary model for the trailer because that's some ****ty CG right there...

    The best thing about the design is its causing a lot of fanboi butthurt. This is a very good thing.

    It's also the first Trek ship I've seen that actually has a vaguely plausible mass distribution so it could actually conceivably function.
    Last edited by Wishbone_Ash; 24th Jul 2016 at 14:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishbone_Ash View Post

    The best thing about the design is its causing a lot of fanboi butthurt. This is a very good thing.
    I agree. Just because reading trekbbs and /r/startrek and facebook usually lets me seriously doubt the fact that large parts of the (online) fandom actually understand StarTrek, its philosophy, its history and values. Fan reaction usually seems to be negative to anything new. As I said before, I never had any serious issues with anything in Trek, and if i had, plot issues, with episodes, old movies and new movies (Into Darkness I'm looking at you), but never ever have I felt that any of the movies or the shows designers didn't do their very best to deliver visual stunning imagery and seriously elegant (and an old rustbucket can be elegant too) ship design (for the hero ships, everything else was kinda meh most of the time, but that's totally ok especially on a TV show where there's virtually no time for anything). If Voyager looked like some of the early design with the runabout nacelle pylons, i would have been on the fence. i would have accepted it after a while, but never felt any connection to the ship. Which propably wouldn't have influenced the show's viewing experience that much, but it would have distracted me. The Kelvin Timeline 1701, and[Spoiler] and [Spoiler] are elegant, beautiful designs that make me believe the ship is real. Discovery is just about as ugly as it gets. Will it look better if the CGI wasn't done by some poor intern at CBS or some other guy/gal they did't pay much, didn't care or didn't have time to finish something that doesn't look like straight out of a 2000's Video Game? Sure. Doesn't change the fact that the general design doesn't appeal to a lot of people. I can absolutely understand why. I hate it, and you can greeble the heck out of it, it's not a "Discovery". That argument about it being Klingon influenced? Srsly? Sure, i mean, ok, why not, even though this is grasping straws to explain its design flaws, but still, klingon design can look great, elegant, and still worn, full of sharp edges and rusty. But it would just not look like that if Discovery is meant to be our new "home" for lots of seasons to come. Good CGI will make Discovery watchable, not believable. Even a damn borg cube is believable in the suspension-of-disbelief context.

    You could get a lot more out of the general shapes (which could work, actually), but you would be totally re-designing it from scratch to a point where it absolutely wouldn't be the same design any more.

    End rant I guess I'm just stunned this is the first time Trek design every let me down. Maybe largely as well because there's some real talent attached to the show and CBS is just awfully bad at marketing and making it appealing so far.

    And yes, i do think quality standards matter when you are promoting your brand new All Access Paywall Streaming StarTrek show. It's a new startrek show. StarTrek is an integral part of pop culture. You don't post ****ty half assed trailers. You just don't. You'd never get to see something like this for the startrek movies, a starwars show, a new season of Game of Thrones or Man in The High Castle. Doesn't happen. So I'm kinda wondering how this visually, in terms of CGI, awful (and I guess we all agree on that) teaser happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LennO View Post
    Haha…ok honestly… I've just logged in here in ages, and i thought i'd never do it again JUST for something like this, for just expressing my absolute distaste for something: But I've been through a lot with some guys here and a lot with Startrek. I understand what they were trying to do. But man… This is _THE_ absolutely worst trek starship design _ever_ and i thought you couldn't do something more visually repelling then some fan design out there. This is just… unbelievable bad marketing.
    I haven't logged in in ages as well, but when I saw the promo, my first thought was "Oh man, I've seen better McQuarrie-inspired designs from people on SFM". There was better quality work here 10+ years ago, and now CBS rolls this out in 2016. I could get behind the Flying Dorito (lol) design if they had done it right, but here it just looks like a kitbash some guy cobbled together. I think it's a combination of NOT picking the best angles of the ship and the overall previz-quality of the CG. I hope they get their act together.
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