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    And I have a very weird bug with the hull. It never align to the value zero when a do a symmetry. When I do a mirror, it's fine but it creates a cut seem between the two parts. Annoying...

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    Humm... looks like the verts arent all aligned. You have two options other than to rebuild:
    1- I think that exists a way for you to align all the vertices to a plane, but I forgot how... Im away from studio max for to many years;
    2- Select all the edges and extrude them a bit, them use a retangle so slice the extension and voila. Now do the mirror;

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starship View Post
    Humm... looks like the verts arent all aligned. You have two options other than to rebuild:
    1- I think that exists a way for you to align all the vertices to a plane, but I forgot how... Im away from studio max for to many years;
    2- Select all the edges and extrude them a bit, them use a retangle so slice the extension and voila. Now do the mirror;

    Hope that helps.
    I like your solution. I will try it. It seems the shape always retain an error I made initially. I corrected it but for the Y plane, it comes back when I apply symmetry. It makes no sens at all. The extrude might do the trick.

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    That deflector is so cool and interesting! And somehow still fits the pizza slicer motif, I'm not quite sure how. Maybe it's reminding me of a thumb grip or something. Love it.

    That shot from the front is making me realize there might also be an under-bridge or something above the deflector and beneath the saucer, like the Shenzhen. Maybe it's just an observation post, but I can imagine being there looking out big glass windows.

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    I put it in front of the deflector below. But I try to take account at how the deflector can project energy, so it's low profile. I might modify the saucer to extend it in front. Maybe it would be more logical if it's on the sides of the deflector. Separate in two but joined below the structure.
    Last edited by komaro; 15th Aug 2017 at 21:55.

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    This is, huh... it's a really weird ship. Don't get me wrong--I love it--it's just hard to place. Like, it could fit really well into just about any era, from TOS to DS9+. It probably wouldn't look much out of place in New Trek either, phaser strips notwithstanding.

    I especially love the art-decon "steps" at the front end of the entral column. Very cool! And maybe it's the silvery lighting of the WIP right now, but I also get a very 1960's sci-fi feel from it. Chrome hull plating wouldn't exactly look out of place on it, ya' know?

    One question, where's the deflector? Seems like it could be placed either at the front of the wing-mounted impulse drives, or inside the "shark mouth" (really love those lines) kind of like the Dauntless-type.

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    The deflector is in the shark area mouth thing, For the moment I am not sure about the bridge area and the front end deflector area. Even if it' art deco it push the design in an odd direction. So, those might change to a more curvy style eventually...at least I will try them.

    I will start doing the textures too, to get the windows, energy strips and such...
    Last edited by komaro; 21st Aug 2017 at 03:56.

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    I tried another bridge design but that wasn't that great...so I decided to integrate it with a panel design on the saucer. Seem nice, still have to put pods and maybe some windows on the saucer.


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    Neat! The bridge seems kind of tall--how many decks thick is it? I may just be confused with the scale of the ship--the narrowness of the saucer makes me think it's "big," and the overall layout is reminiscent of the Enterprise-J design (which is obscenely big). I realize the actual geometry is (probably) the same size, but the additional detailing makes the bridge component *feel* bigger.

    If you don't mind some advice, I think the main thing the bridge component is lacking is "lines." I may not have the necessarily vocabulary to articulate my thoughts here, but because the bridge isn't aligned within concentric circles, it feels kind of out-of-place without any "lines" in the design pointing to it, or drawing attention to it.

    I'd suggest adding some to the patters on the rear half of the saucer--bring them forward to an intersecting point just in front of the bridge structure. IE to create a triangular shape with the bridge at the "head." Similar to the design of the Saber-class or Sovereign-class.

    I also think you may want to add something to the front of the saucer. Because the bridge is raised up so much, it makes the forward saucer look kind of empty. I assume the registry will be painted on there, but maybe also consider some raised greebles or something (like in the kitbashes? I know it's not really an elegant solution....) or sensor palates and/or an Intrepid-style navigational deflector if you're thinking of making it more DS9+ era.

    It might also be cool to experiment with a "cut-away" portion of the front of the saucer. It could be easy enough to do two versions ala the two Nova-class variants (IE the U.S.S. Equinox had a cut-away saucer; the U.S.S. Rhode Island did not) and it would help establish the "prow" of the ship a bit more.

    Anyway, I gotta stress again how much I love this design. It is simple, clean and elegant--everything I look for in a Federation ship. Every new image gives me something new to appreciate--the top of the secondary hull is now looking SUPER reminiscent of the Miranda and Excelsior designs. Again, I think you've struck something here that could be placed in any era of Trek with little difficulty.

    Speaking of the secondary hull--is that dome at the very back supposed to be a "warp jewel" (IE the "top" of the reactor, as is the case on the Excelsior and Constitution-Refit designs)? If so, well... I love how it looks aesthetically, but you might want to reconsider it from an in-universe perspective, as those "jewels" marked the top of a very large vertical reactor that ran down through several decks (from the top of the saucer, through the neck and into the secondary hull).

    And I gotta say... I am really looking forward to seeing this model finished. Just imagining what it might look like with little glowing windows is making me kinda excited. Such a cool ship!

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    Thanks Arsene. I also think the bridge seem a bit big. I think I will put a deformer on it to slim it back. Since I have already done the windows, it would at least scale/deform it properly.

    I though about a cutaway front end for the saucer but that wasn't in the original drawing. I decided to do an arc cutting instead to give it a knife edge look. The arc on the saucer was cut into the main saucer and manipulate to fit. I know other modellers do it another way by adding an extra object over the top but I wanted one saucer. Yes there is still letters, windows and pods on the saucer. Some panel cutting must be done in the outer cut of the saucer. The Excelsior design element was in one of the drawing. That's why I put a bit of art deco into it.

    The round thing in the back would be the botanic garden, at one point I though it could be shield related. Not sure for now.
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